What about those of us that have no clue what line we are from? I do have one uncle left to DNA test if I can get him to, but we do not know what line. Our line back is Lyman William Barlow 5-15-1893 Michigan to 8-31-1923 Michigan, George A Barlow 4-15-1867 Canada to 4-15-1927 Michigan, Possibly father is a William/Will George Barlow of Canada and Mother is Mary Ann Foster (Fortier)of Canada. I am stumped and do not seem to be able to unclog! Judy > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan BARLOW Holmes [mailto:sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net] > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:33 PM > To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing > > > For comparison sake. We have no DNA test results from those families. > We can't tell if John of Fairfield is related to those families, > etc..until we get a result. > > We need results from every known line to compare those who have no clue > what line they are in. We have a new result right now, no match to > anything we have currently in our database, so he still doesn't know > what line he is from. Should he be from Edmund of Malden, or one of the > groups that we have no results for, then he still doesn't know what line > he is from. Also. To see if any of our major lines are related, closer > than we know. For instance, a DNA result from another database suggests > that John of Fairfield is related to Edmund of Malden, but I have not > seen the results for myself yet to know if that is correct, or how close > the relationship is, whether it is an exact match, or 36 out of 37 > markers, or even perhaps only 34 out of 37, which is a great distance. > As you know, we are all related at some point or other. > > Are you sufficiently confused yet? > > Love, Susan > > > > Looking for Barlows, anywhere....anytime, including all variants and > spellings of the name, Barlo, Barloe, Barlowe, Parlar, Barler, Barlar, > Barlage, etc... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kimberly Granholm [mailto:kimberlyg1972@hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 10:41 AM > To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing > > Susan > > Very generous offer from annonymous! > > Question though? If the persons line has already been traced/proven > to > one of the families you listed, why test? I know that if i could > connect my > Nathaniel Barlow to ANY of the Barlow lines DNA testing wouldnt be > needed.........at the same time DNA testing takes some of the fun out of > it > ;) > > Not jelous, just curious! > > Kim > > > > > > > > From: "Susan BARLOW Holmes" <sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net> > Reply-To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BARLOW] DNA testing > Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 17:02:57 -0500 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([66.43.18.41]) by > mc3-f31.hotmail.com > with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 7 Sep 2005 15:06:43 -0700 > Received: (from slist@localhost)by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) > id > j87M384V026009;Wed, 7 Sep 2005 16:03:08 -0600 > >I have had a very generous offer from an anonymous donor willing to pay > >for a complete 37 marker DNA test for anyone that can has traced their > >genealogy back to any one of the following families. > > > >If we have a volunteer, remember first it has to be a male, with the > >Barlow surname, and your name can be completely anonymous, except to > >myself, as the administrator of the DNA project, and perhaps to the > >person donating the funds.(I have not asked their opinion of that) we > >would need to know your ancestral genealogy, for comparison with > >others currently online. > > > >1rst choice would be a male Barlow from either of these lines: > > > >http://www.barlowgenealogy.com/Families/MormonFamilies/Oswald.html > > > >http://www.barlowgenealogy.com/Families/MormonFamilies/Barlow-Hulme.htm > l > > > >However, I would look favorably on someone who wanted to test from one > >these family lines: > > > >Israel Barlow - earliest ancestor Francis Barlow of Turton, Lancashire > >b1512 > >Ebenezer Barlow - earliest ancestor Robert Barlow of St Leonards, > >Shoreditch, London b1808 > >William Francis Barlow - earliest ancestor George W. Barlow of Cairo, > >New York b1832 > > > >Please contact me at: sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net > > > >Susan > > > > > > > >Looking for Barlows, anywhere....anytime, including all variants and > >spellings of the name, Barlo, Barloe, Barlowe, Parlar, Barler, Barlar, > >Barlage, etc... > > > > > > > >==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== > >To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > > > >If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: > >barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > > > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of > course.) > > > > > >If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: > >BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > > > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of > course.) > > > > > > ==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > > If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: > barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. 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The only suggestion I can make is to have your uncle do the 12 marker DNA test, then if it matches one of the groups already tested, you will know what direction to look in. That is precisely the reason we need a result in our database for every known major group. Once you do the 12 marker test, and find a family group to be in...you can upgrade the test to either 25 or 37, and it will give you a better idea how closely you are related, ie...whether you have a common ancestor in the last 100 years, or the past 1000 years. Once you know which family group you are in, then you could also find folks in the same family group to work with in researching your family. The problem right now is that we do not have a DNA score for George of Sandwich, Edmund of Malden, and Jonathan of Nova Scotia, so if you are one of those family groups, you still won't know anything..until someone comes along and tests, knowing they are from that family group. So why should someone take the expensive test when they already know the group they are in.......because, there just may be a match between say, John of Fairfield to George of Sandwich, who knows. Then we can begin to work on finding that relationship. And we can add other families not previously known to be a part of those families...such as my John, who comes from Mississippi. I would have never dreamed that he was of the John of Fairfield Ct bunch until DNA came along. A distant relationship for sure, and one that we may never find, but we also learned that we have a very close relationship to those in Georgia. For several years, I had determined that my family was from Isle of Wight Virginia, or from Robeson CO North Carolina, and spend hours of time trying to find connections, other than places of origin, and naming practices. Then DNA told me that we are absolutely no relation to them, thus making that time wasted, but will save hours in the future. Who knows, perhaps George of Sandwich and John of Fairfield were brothers, or first cousins...we won't ever know until we have all of the DNA scores in for all known major groups. We have 2 tests online right now who do not match any of our others, are they related to one of the major groups not already tested...or are there other lines out there we don't even know about. To date, I have found 7 major groups of Barlows. We may narrow that down to 3 or 4 if all families test. Of course, we all know that in the beginning, we were all related. But over the thousands of years, we have lost our kinfolk, they went one way while we went another. There is a link on the DNA ordering page to contribute funds for those who cannot afford to take the test. Anyone interested in donating funds to that, it would be most welcome. Once we have enough for a 12 marker test, we can find a volunteer from one of the major groups not tested, and perhaps with the funding, they would be willing to test. If you can even give $5 or $10, that would be a beginning. These funds are held within the Family Tree DNA database by the company, not by myself, and aren't going anywhere until I specify where it should be used. And of course, I would let the folks decide. Or you can even specify what group you would like the money to be used for when you contribute. Susan Looking for Barlows, anywhere....anytime, including all variants and spellings of the name, Barlo, Barloe, Barlowe, Parlar, Barler, Barlar, Barlage, etc... -----Original Message----- From: Judy Huff [mailto:judyhuff@starband.net] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:52 PM To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing What about those of us that have no clue what line we are from? I do have one uncle left to DNA test if I can get him to, but we do not know what line. Our line back is Lyman William Barlow 5-15-1893 Michigan to 8-31-1923 Michigan, George A Barlow 4-15-1867 Canada to 4-15-1927 Michigan, Possibly father is a William/Will George Barlow of Canada and Mother is Mary Ann Foster (Fortier)of Canada. I am stumped and do not seem to be able to unclog! Judy > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan BARLOW Holmes [mailto:sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net] > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:33 PM > To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing > > > For comparison sake. We have no DNA test results from those families. > We can't tell if John of Fairfield is related to those families, > etc..until we get a result. > > We need results from every known line to compare those who have no clue > what line they are in. We have a new result right now, no match to > anything we have currently in our database, so he still doesn't know > what line he is from. Should he be from Edmund of Malden, or one of the > groups that we have no results for, then he still doesn't know what line > he is from. Also. To see if any of our major lines are related, closer > than we know. For instance, a DNA result from another database suggests > that John of Fairfield is related to Edmund of Malden, but I have not > seen the results for myself yet to know if that is correct, or how close > the relationship is, whether it is an exact match, or 36 out of 37 > markers, or even perhaps only 34 out of 37, which is a great distance. > As you know, we are all related at some point or other. > > Are you sufficiently confused yet? > > Love, Susan > > > > Looking for Barlows, anywhere....anytime, including all variants and > spellings of the name, Barlo, Barloe, Barlowe, Parlar, Barler, Barlar, > Barlage, etc... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kimberly Granholm [mailto:kimberlyg1972@hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 10:41 AM > To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing > > Susan > > Very generous offer from annonymous! > > Question though? If the persons line has already been traced/proven > to > one of the families you listed, why test? I know that if i could > connect my > Nathaniel Barlow to ANY of the Barlow lines DNA testing wouldnt be > needed.........at the same time DNA testing takes some of the fun out of > it > ;) > > Not jelous, just curious! > > Kim > > > > > > > > From: "Susan BARLOW Holmes" <sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net> > Reply-To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BARLOW] DNA testing > Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 17:02:57 -0500 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([66.43.18.41]) by > mc3-f31.hotmail.com > with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 7 Sep 2005 15:06:43 -0700 > Received: (from slist@localhost)by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) > id > j87M384V026009;Wed, 7 Sep 2005 16:03:08 -0600 > >I have had a very generous offer from an anonymous donor willing to pay > >for a complete 37 marker DNA test for anyone that can has traced their > >genealogy back to any one of the following families. > > > >If we have a volunteer, remember first it has to be a male, with the > >Barlow surname, and your name can be completely anonymous, except to > >myself, as the administrator of the DNA project, and perhaps to the > >person donating the funds.(I have not asked their opinion of that) we > >would need to know your ancestral genealogy, for comparison with > >others currently online. > > > >1rst choice would be a male Barlow from either of these lines: > > > >http://www.barlowgenealogy.com/Families/MormonFamilies/Oswald.html > > > >http://www.barlowgenealogy.com/Families/MormonFamilies/Barlow-Hulme.htm > l > > > >However, I would look favorably on someone who wanted to test from one > >these family lines: > > > >Israel Barlow - earliest ancestor Francis Barlow of Turton, Lancashire > >b1512 > >Ebenezer Barlow - earliest ancestor Robert Barlow of St Leonards, > >Shoreditch, London b1808 > >William Francis Barlow - earliest ancestor George W. Barlow of Cairo, > >New York b1832 > > > >Please contact me at: sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net > > > >Susan > > > > > > > >Looking for Barlows, anywhere....anytime, including all variants and > >spellings of the name, Barlo, Barloe, Barlowe, Parlar, Barler, Barlar, > >Barlage, etc... > > > > > > > >==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== > >To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > > > >If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: > >barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > > > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of > course.) > > > > > >If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: > >BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > > > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of > course.) > > > > > > ==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > > If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: > barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. 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Hi Susan. Keep up the great work. As you know I am available for testing but still can't afford the total cost. My Barlow line goes back to George and Margaret b. about 1770 in Limehouse Middlesex and then to West Ham Essex. Blessings Robin In His Majesty's Service, Pastor Robin Barlow Drumbo Baptist Church Drumbo Ontario Canada --------------------------------- Find your next car at Yahoo! Canada Autos