It was recently brought to my attention that Oswald Barlow was adopted by James Barlow, his real father's named 'Fogg', I believe. We have found a donor for the DNA test for the James Barlow family however, a descendant of one of the true sons of James Barlow and Ann Crompton, and are waiting patiently for the results to see if they match those of John of Fairfield, as is hoped. We still won't know if he is a match to Edmund of Malden or George of Sandwich, because we still do not have test results to compare him to. This Mormon Barlow family actually didn't arrive in the states until the mid 1800's.and I don't even know if they would relate to the Israel Barlow family, which I have been told is a part of the Edmund of Malden familes. Comments anyone???? Susan Looking for Barlows, anywhere....anytime, including all variants and spellings of the name, Barlo, Barloe, Barlowe, Parlar, Barler, Barlar, Barlage, etc...
Hi Susan, >We have found a donor for the DNA test for the James Barlow family..........and are waiting for the results to see if they match those of John of Fairfield, as is hoped.< If they do match those of John of Fairfield we will certainly know that the James Barlow family is related to the Israel Barlow family as well since a candidate from the Israel Barlow family has already been tested and his results are on the Sorensen database. His markers clearly show the relationship between his family and that of John of Fairfield. The differences are only on the genetic markers for which Sorensen don't test but which FTDNA do. John of Fairfield & Israel Barlow match on 27/28 markers. >We still won't know if he is a match to Edmund of Malden or George of Sandwich, because we still do not have test results to compare him to.< It depends how much actual paper trail exists between the Israel Barlow family and the Edmund of Malden family. The Gedcom file I have seen on the IGI clearly traces Israel Barlow back through Edmund of Malden to Francis of Turton, Lancashire. Can the Israel Barlow Foundation provide the evidence properly linking back all the way to Edmund of Malden? or even further back to Francis of Turton? If so we are part way there because the probable Lancashire origin ties in with several other strands of this "Fairfield" family. The most important of these to date being the Barlow family with identifiable origins in Ainsworth, Lancashire since this family displays what is believed to be the "ancestral haplotype" (ie in theory the closest genetic signature to the Most Recent Common Ancestor for the whole group of "Fairfield" Barlow families. The significance of this I believe is shown by the fact that Ainsworth, Turton and the home of my own ancestors, Radcliffe, are all within close proximity of each other in Lancashire, England, as can be seen (hopefully) from this link to a map.http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=375000&Y=415000&w idth=500&height=300&gride=&gridn=&srec=0&coordsys=gb&db=freegaz&addr1=&addr2 =&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&zm=1&s cale=200000 1. Firstly find Bolton. Move north almost to the edge of the map and you will see Turton Bottoms (Turton being the ancestral home supposedly of Edmund or Malden's ancestor Francis of Turton...whose family are later supposed to be in Little Bolton before moving to the USA. Little Bolton is now part of Bolton itself). 2. From Bolton move East about 3 miles and you will reach Ainsworth (ancestral home of the "Fairfield" ancestral haplotype!). 3. From Ainsworth move South East about 3 miles to Radcliffe (ancestral home of my own earliest ancestor proven by DNA to be related to the Barlow family of Ainsworth). I believe it is this small triangle of Lancashire which holds the key to the origin of the Barlows within the "Fairfield" group of families. The James Barlow family currently being DNA tested are also meant to hail from the Manchester area and so hopefully the results will shed further light on these theories. Regards, John Eckersley. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan BARLOW Holmes" <sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net> To: <BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 3:55 AM Subject: Oswald Barlow, son of James Barlow and Ann Crompton. > It was recently brought to my attention that Oswald Barlow was adopted > by James Barlow, his real father's named 'Fogg', I believe. > > > We have found a donor for the DNA test for the James Barlow family > however, a descendant of one of the true sons of James Barlow and Ann > Crompton, and are waiting patiently for the results to see if they match > those of John of Fairfield, as is hoped. We still won't know if he is a > match to Edmund of Malden or George of Sandwich, because we still do not > have test results to compare him to. This Mormon Barlow family actually > didn't arrive in the states until the mid 1800's.and I don't even know > if they would relate to the Israel Barlow family, which I have been told > is a part of the Edmund of Malden familes. > > Comments anyone???? > > Susan > > Looking for Barlows, anywhere....anytime, including all variants and > spellings of the name, Barlo, Barloe, Barlowe, Parlar, Barler, Barlar, > Barlage, etc... > > > ______________________________