I'm forwarding this query from a non-list member. If anyone can help him, be sure to copy him on your response to the list. The writer's e-mail is: bej1940@yahoo.com > > >Dear Sir; > I am looking for Nancy Sue Barlow B. 1863 that m.Henry (Buddy) >Carnley..... Would appreciate any help. > thank you. Billy Jackson >

I'm searching for George Barlow, born in New York, probably about 1816. Daughter, Martha Marie Barlow, born in Wisconsin July, 1855. Martha married Benjamin (Benaji?) Webb Busby in Winona County, Minnesota on February 2, 1876. Any information on Martha's parents would be appreciated. Barbara Sullivan

Does anyone know about this perso? i believe he married Johanna Donaghue . he was born approx. 03-23-1828 and died nov 23, 1889. lived in st lawerance city at time of 1860 census. they had a son frank barlow who was my g grandfather. thanks for any info. Peace and Sunshine ! Diann

how are you connected to the barlows? my mother is and we have had trouble finding any informationout my great grandfather was frank barlow who married nettie murry. his father was patrick barlow who iwas from limerick ireland born nov 23 1889. any insite? Peace and Sunshine ! Diann --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

Susan that's okay about asking the man in Oregon to be in touch. I found what I wanted to ask, but thanks anyway. Nancy

Is someone willing to donate the rest of the money for Robin of England to participate in the DNA test. He will give the first $100. And yes, Robin, it is FamilyTreeDNA. The total cost with postage will be about 172.00, I believe. I think Lee Cognetta volunteered $20.00 toward that, am I correct Lee...I don't want to put you on the spot..you can answer privately to me. I will donate a couple of dollars if I can possibly come up with it...my husband has to donate to me first :)) Love, Susan At 09:17 AM 3/10/2004, you wrote: > Hi Susan. Just me again. Is the DNA that the >Barlows are doing connected to <familytreedna.com> ? >I still can only justify $100 and would like to add to >the data base with the 25 test. > >Blessings Robin > >===== >In His Majesty's Service, >Pastor Robin Barlow >Drumbo Baptist Church >Drumbo Ontario Canada > >______________________________________________________________________ >Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > > >==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== >Your list owner is Jim Barlow (email: jebarlow@uiuc.edu) > >To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > >If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: >barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > >Type "unsubscribe" in both the Subject line and as the only word in the >body. (Without the quotes, of course.) > > >If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: >BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line and as the only word in the >body. (Without the quotes, of course.)

While that is true, it could very well be an adopted or foster child, but from what I understand, when you share 25 matching markers, but not the surname, it does not mean as close a relationship as when names are the same. I don't understand that at all. And if that is the case, why post those names at all. I wish I had a little better grasp on the DNA thing...but scientific matter is over my head. If someone could explain it to me in everyday language, I might do better with it. What would you like for me to post? The DNA results? I can do that. I will try to contact IOW and see if he will email yall...but can't guarantee that. Love, Susan At 11:02 AM 3/10/2004, you wrote: >Hi Susan, > Thanks for all your help with this. Will you be posting the >results on the clearinghouse so that I can refer Crystal and Karen to the >website? > An interesting other event is that Jim has apparently a 25 marker > match with someone named Terry Morgan. Because we have two surnames >matching, my guess on the Morgan match means somewhere we have a foster >or adopted child who was sired by a Barlow. Like you I don't know what it >means yet, but it means something. > I surely would like to be in touch with IOW Barlow. Nancy > > >==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== >To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > >If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: >barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) > > >If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: >BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.)

Hi Susan, Thanks for all your help with this. Will you be posting the results on the clearinghouse so that I can refer Crystal and Karen to the website? An interesting other event is that Jim has apparently a 25 marker match with someone named Terry Morgan. Because we have two surnames matching, my guess on the Morgan match means somewhere we have a foster or adopted child who was sired by a Barlow. Like you I don't know what it means yet, but it means something. I surely would like to be in touch with IOW Barlow. Nancy

Hi Susan. Just me again. Is the DNA that the Barlows are doing connected to <familytreedna.com> ? I still can only justify $100 and would like to add to the data base with the 25 test. Blessings Robin ===== In His Majesty's Service, Pastor Robin Barlow Drumbo Baptist Church Drumbo Ontario Canada ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca

Roe...you might contact Jerry Dagenhart... jlynndagenhart@netzero.net He may be able to put you in touch with someone willing to do the test and you might donate toward that. Let me know. He is from the Braxton Barlow family....Bunches of Barlows.. has some very interesting information. As soon as I finish with the Georgia Barlow's...my next re-work will be with the Bunches of Barlows database at the Clearinghouse. If anybody out there has family or documentation to add..please do. The census work alone could take me months. All help will be much appreciated. I will trace as many of the families as I can through census records, 1790-1920..and that is very time consuming. I will want all images included with transcriptions, but if anybody even has indexes, that would be helpful. Love, Susan

Nancy, I had a letter from Clinton a couple of months ago...he is still working on the book, but it is still a ways off...maybe in the next year or so. I recommend that you and Jim might get involved with him, though, he does not do e-mail..only snail mail. I know our IOW candidate has in the past been involved with Clinton's research. Clinton is not completely sold on the idea of DNA, and still believes that a relationship may exist to my Barlow family, but after this many DNA tests, I have to disagree that we would be closely enough related to warrant research. It would have to be several hundred years ago. I put my Barlow DNA and John of Fairfield DNA into that new Sorenson Molecule Database and got an exact match with Israel Barlow and Elizabeth Haven...it stated that the most recent common ancestor was probably within 18 generations...but gosh, that is still a LONG LONG time ago. Perhaps somewhere in St Lake City at the LDS someone has made a closer link....but I don't begin to know how to do that ancient genealogy. I work with census, and other U.S. records, I have a hard time even understanding English / England data. I can't tell months from days, etc... And much of the wording leaves me questioning its meaning! Oh well....someday maybe. Right now, as far as our DNA database, we are looking at 3 major groups of Barlows, 1. Isle of Wight group which includes John and Martha Waddell Barlow of Virginia/W. Virginia, 2. Germanna group 3. Mormon Group, which includes John of Fairfield, John of Mississippi, William of Georgia, and probably Edmund of Malden since they have traced their families back to Israel Barlow, but I do not know if that has been proven! Does anyone know? Alan Barlow of England has submitted his 12 marker test for an upgrade to the 25 marker test...but thus far, it appears he is more closely related to John of Fairfield than with any other group. Will wait and see. We could still use volunteers from Edmund of Malden, Bunches of Barlows, George of Sandwich, as far as major groups go...but I would love to have some of the smaller groups that have no clue where they fit into any families also test. Until this testing, we had no clue we were a part of John of Fairfield...not even of the Georgia Barlow's...though that was suspected. We still don't know how we are related, but it is nice to know where our roots lay. If we eventually get all of our families completely identified into major groups..we can then work more closely together to try to find new answers. >Susan

Hi Susan....... I have not been able to find a male in the family who could do the test. I am still willing to donate though for someone in my line. I will also keep looking for someone in my line in the meantime. I am so anxious to get involved. Roe Barlow ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan BARLOW Holmes" <sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net> To: <BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 8:48 PM Subject: [BARLOW] James Barlow DNA and IOW... > > You are an exact match with Isle of Wight Barlow. It also shows that both > have same haplotypes, "I" which are lineages nearly completely > restricted to northwestern Europe. These would most likely have been common > within Viking populations. One lineage of this group extends down into > central Europe. > > AS for the rest of IOW test results, matches, etc...I cannot get to them > either. However, all his information should be exact to James, as their > test are an exact match. I have read a lot, but still don't understand a > lot. It appears that with an exact match on the 12 marker test...a > relationship between 14.5 - 48 generations is likely. However, with an > exact match on the 25 marker test...it would be a closer relationship, but > still could be, if I understand correctly, between 7-16 > generations. That's still a bunch of research needed to find that common > ancestor!!!! One thing for certain, you do have a common ancestor, and > most likely originate in England. > > You do not have a match with the others tested, ie...John of Fairfield, > Edmund of Malden, John of Mississippi, and William of Georgia. Neither of > us have a relationship to the Germanna Barlow's. > > I would love to find a volunteer for the Bunches of Barlows group to see > where they fit....if into any of these groups. Of course, we all know that > if we go back far enough in time, we are all related. > > > Susan > > > > > At 11:35 AM 3/9/2004, you wrote: > >Susan anything that you can tell us about the progress on testing Jim and > >IOW Barlow? Nancy > > > > > >==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== > >To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > > > >If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: > >barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > > > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) > > > > > >If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: > >BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > > > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) > > > > > ==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > > If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: > barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) > > > If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: > BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) >

You are an exact match with Isle of Wight Barlow. It also shows that both have same haplotypes, "I" which are lineages nearly completely restricted to northwestern Europe. These would most likely have been common within Viking populations. One lineage of this group extends down into central Europe. AS for the rest of IOW test results, matches, etc...I cannot get to them either. However, all his information should be exact to James, as their test are an exact match. I have read a lot, but still don't understand a lot. It appears that with an exact match on the 12 marker test...a relationship between 14.5 - 48 generations is likely. However, with an exact match on the 25 marker test...it would be a closer relationship, but still could be, if I understand correctly, between 7-16 generations. That's still a bunch of research needed to find that common ancestor!!!! One thing for certain, you do have a common ancestor, and most likely originate in England. You do not have a match with the others tested, ie...John of Fairfield, Edmund of Malden, John of Mississippi, and William of Georgia. Neither of us have a relationship to the Germanna Barlow's. I would love to find a volunteer for the Bunches of Barlows group to see where they fit....if into any of these groups. Of course, we all know that if we go back far enough in time, we are all related. Susan At 11:35 AM 3/9/2004, you wrote: >Susan anything that you can tell us about the progress on testing Jim and >IOW Barlow? Nancy > > >==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== >To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > >If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: >barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) > > >If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: >BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.)

Susan anything that you can tell us about the progress on testing Jim and IOW Barlow? Nancy

Edson, Please convert my mail subscription to only email. It is working very, very well. Nancy Bruns at alnanb@juno.com. Do you ever hear from Clinton Barlow as to how he is coming along with IOW book? NBB

JOEL BARLOW The Sage of KALORAMA Patriot - Author - Diplomat On exhibit at Woodrow Wilson House from March 24, 2004 through June 21, 2004 To mark the two-hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the birth of ambassador and author Joel Barlow, the Woodrow Wilson House is mounting an exhibition, “Joel Barlow – The Sage of Kalorama.” The exhibition will open on March 24, 2004 at the Woodrow Wilson House, a National Trust Historic Site in Washington, DC, which stands just yards from the site of Kalorama – Barlow’s last home. This will be the sole venue for the exhibition, which will remain on view until June 21, 2004. The exhibition will shed light on an underappreciated and fascinating figure in the founding of the nation. It will chronicle the life of this Connecticut farmer who rose from Puritan colonial beginnings to become a model man of the Enlightenment. A Yale educated wit, essayist and author, Barlow was a patriot in Washington’s army, America’s first popular author, patron of the work of Robert Fulton, friend of Thomas Jefferson, a citizen of revolutionary France, liberator of the Barbary captives and the nation’s first diplomat to die at his post in service to the nation. On view will be original copies of Barlow’s works, including The Vision of Columbus (1787) which would become Barlow’s epic poem and America’s first bestseller, The Columbiad (1807). Important loans from the National Portrait Gallery will include the Barlow portrait by Robert Fulton, a portrait sketch on paper by John Vanderlyn and a plaster copy of the Houdon bust, the original of which is in the White House collection. Objects relating to Kalorama on loan from the U.S. Department of State include Barlow’s portrait by Charles Wilson Peale (1807), a Sheffield wine cooler used at Kalorama that was a gift from Thomas Jefferson and a landscape painting by Charles Codman of the Kalorama estate. In addition to being the nation’s first author to receive fair pay for his work, Barlow’s career led him into many adventures. As a Yale student, he fought at the Battle of Brooklyn and later became a chaplain with Washington’s army at West Point. After the Revolution, he started the American Mercury in Hartford where he became one of the satirical Connecticut Wits who provided commentary on the hope and promise of the new republic. In an effort to sell western land in Ohio, Barlow made his way to France where he met Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Paine and as the French Revolution began to stir moved on to London where, along with Joseph Priestly, Thomas Hardy and Mary Wollstonscraft, he cheered on the republican wave of revolution. His Advise to the Privileged Orders in Several States of Europe, along with Paine’s Rights of Man, was found to be seditious and forced Barlow to leave England. He became a citizen of revolutionary France and ran for election to the National Assembly from the Department of Savoy. Although he lost, it was while spending time in the Piedmont that he wrote his most popular poem, The Hasty Pudding, a rambling epic about the warmth and wholesomeness of the corn meal pudding of his New England youth raised to culinary art as polenta in Italy. After the French Revolution turned into the Terror, Barlow came to the aid of his friend Tom Paine as he was being arrested, smuggling the manuscript for The Age of Reason to safety and having it published. Back in Paris in 1796, Barlow was called upon by President George Washington to negotiate the release of 119 American sailors held captive by the Barbary States. Barlow personally won the favor of the Dey of Algiers and secured the ransom of the sailors with the promise of a new American frigate and $800,000 in gold. The treaty of friendship with the Barbary States of Algiers, Tunis and Tripoli was among the first for the new American nation. Barlow went on to take in a young American by the name of Robert Fulton who had just left the studio of Barlow’s friend Benjamin West in London. Barlow taught the young artist and inventor French and helped him secure a trial before Napoleon of an improved submarine, the Nautilus in 1800. Barlow helped to finance the submarine project but was even more helpful to the young inventor introducing him to the new American Minister, Robert Livingston. Livingston took great interest in the promotion of Fulton’s steamboat, underwriting the cost of the working model that sailed the Seine in 1803 and that would eventually sail the Hudson as the Clermont. Barlow’s home in Paris, across from the Luxembourg Gardens, was the center of expatriate American life. He amassed a great library and continued his writings and literary work. In one political essay, he called for a United States of Europe some 200 years before the creation of the European Union. In another tract, he called for the freedom of the seas and trade which was echoed in Woodrow Wilson’s famous 14 Points and in Article 41 of the United Nations Charter. Nevertheless, Barlow was growing weary of European politics and the rise of Napoleon. His friend Jefferson had become President in 1802 and urged Barlow to return to his native land and take a house in Washington which he described as “a lovely seat…on a high hill commanding a most extensive view of the Potomac.” Jefferson, along with James Madison also wanted Barlow to write the first complete history of the United States and promised full access to their papers for the project. In the summer of 1805, after a visit to Benjamin West in London, Barlow arrived at New York and traveled to his native Connecticut to renew his old friendship with Noah Webster. Barlow had been away from his homeland for seventeen years, leaving before the new nation's Constitution had been established and returning as Lewis and Clark were exploring the great promise of the west. On his way to Washington, Barlow stopped off in Philadelphia to have his portrait painted by Charles Wilson Peale and seek a publisher for his revised version of Vision of Columbus. In 1807, the final version entitled Columbiad was printed by Fry and Kammerer, the best American printer, with illustrations by Robert Smirke and plates paid for by Robert Fulton. At a cost of $10,000, it was the most expensive book ever printed up to that time; each deluxe folio cost $20 a copy. Once in Washington, Barlow purchased the hilltop property suggested by Thomas Jefferson and renamed the run down estate “Kalorama”, Greek for “beautiful view”. He added stables and planted an orchard, then commissioned Benjamin Latrobe, the architect of the U.S. Capitol, to make additions and build a gardener’s lodge and elaborate entrance gate. He moved his entire Paris library to Kalorama and sold off additional copies to Secretary of State James Madison who along with his wife Dolley was a frequent visitor. He wrote Jefferson and exchanged gardening and horticulture tips as well as commentary on republican politics of the day. His niece married Andrew Ellicott, the surveyor of the city of Washington, who Barlow helped to receive a postmaster’s position in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. He visited Jefferson at Monticello and traveled with Latrobe to Harper’s Ferry and Bedford Springs. During his years in Washington, he petitioned Congress and wrote a tract, Prospectus of a National Institution to be Established in the United States in support of an old Yale friend, Josiah Meigs, then President of the University of Georgia, to establish a National University. Even with Jefferson’s support and funding from the estate of George Washington in hand, the measure was narrowly defeated in Congress. Meigs would be successful several years after Barlow’s death and became the first President of Columbian College, now the George Washington University in Washington, DC. Barlow established himself at Kalorama as the model man of the enlightenment. Like Jefferson, he ascribed to the life of an agrarian republican and surrounded himself with the latest inventions, including indoor plumbing. Although he had spent many years away from his native land, he found that he had many friends and supporters. In 1810, the new President, James Madison called on Barlow to become the new Ambassador to France. England was at war with Napoleon’s France and both nations had set up blockades of American shipping. In July of 1811, Barlow set off from Kalorama for the port of Annapolis where President Madison ordered the flagship of the American Navy, the USS Constitution to carry the new Ambassador to his post. Barlow took up residence at his old house in Paris and endeavored to secure promises from Napoleon to end the blockade of American ships and release any seized ships. At their first meeting, Napoleon agreed to many of Barlow’s claims and agreed to work out a treaty. They agreed to meet again to negotiate a trade agreement, but when Napoleon left to fight the Russian campaign Barlow was forced to go to Wilna, Lithuania to meet him. In route, Barlow wrote his last epic poem, Advise to a Raven in Winter, a commentary on Napoleon’s quest for empire. With news of Napoleon’s defeat and retreat from Russia, Barlow was forced to flee; he caught pneumonia and died on December 26, 1812 in the Village of Zarnowiec between Warsaw and Krakow. The first American Diplomat to die at his post, he is buried in the village churchyard a world away from the Connecticut hills of his birth and his beloved Kalorama. The Woodrow Wilson House, a National Trust Historic Site and Washington’s only presidential museum, offers a thorough glimpse of life in 1920’s Washington through the eyes of Woodrow Wilson and his wife Edith. The Wilson’s personal effects, furnishings, decorative arts and clothing, as well as State gifts, intermingle in their elegant 1915 town-home, arranged as they were in 1921. The exhibition is open during regular museum hours, 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. Tuesday through Sunday. Woodrow Wilson House is located at 2340 S St. NW, in the Kalorama neighborhood, just off Embassy Row in Northwest, Washington. The museum is within walking distance of Metro Rail, Dupont Circle station (Red Line). On street parking is limited. Parking and access for persons with disabilities is available. FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, PLEASE CONTACT Meg Nowack, Curator, Tel: 202 387 4062, ext. 20. E-mail: mnowack@woodrowwilsonhouse.org

Hi Susan, Thank you for reply, I ama bit mixed up, looks like the Bartlow-L@Rootsweb.com is no longer, I have now found my Barlow line at Barlow Clearinghouse where it all is. best wishes, Jean,Canada. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan BARLOW Holmes" <sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net> To: <BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [BARLOW] > > Jean: > > Are you talking of the archives of this mailing list? or of the Barlow > Clearinghouse? The Clearinghouse is up and well...though Canada and > England are taken care of by Chris Barlow instead of myself these > days. Visit at: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~barlow/ > > or to go to England ... click > on: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~barlow/england/index.htm > > > I am still in the process of updating...long long process, trying to add > documentation as I go. > > Love, Susan > > > At 12:44 PM 3/3/2004, you wrote: > >Hello Susan, I caznnot get onto the Barlow Rootsweb, have tried several > >times, I thought it had been taken off, what is wrong?? best wishes Jean. > >Canada. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Susan BARLOW Holmes" <sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net> > >To: <BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 11:13 PM > >Subject: [BARLOW] DNA NEW STUFF > > > > > > > Imo Greenwood sent this to me this morning..I had not renewed my > > > subscription since my address change...but this is quite interesting. I > > > did a comparison with my family's DNA from our Barlow DNA Project, and > >find > > > that we match within 1 marker from the Israel Barlow and Elizabeth Haven > > > Barlow..The Mormon bunch...making us about 18 generations away... This > >will > > > be quite interesting to the John Barlow of Fairfield Ct bunch, because > > > while we were only one marker from them..they are also 1 markers from > > > Israel...again approximately 18 generations. ...and also...to the Edmund > >of > > > Malden Barlow's...as they have traced their lineage to Israel...so we are > > > beginning to tie into one another........Now to find where. > > > > > > No matches in their database for the Germanna Bunch... > > > > > > With still only 12 markers on the IOW and John and Martha Wadell > > > Families...there were no Barlow matches...but a whole lot of different > > > surnames matching 9-11 markers. > > > > > > > > > Also...of interest to this...is that these DNA tests offered at this > > > project are free...and for not only men, but women......entire families.. > > > Check it out.. > > > > > > > > > This was in the Richard Eastman genealogy news letter. I thought you > > > might like to read it, if you do not get his news letter. Very > >interesting > > > about this DNA project. For Eastman's full news letter click on this web > > > site: The 1 March 2004 version of Eastman's Online Genealogy > > > Newsletter - Standard Edition is now available at > > > <http://www.eogn.com>http://www.eogn.com. > > > Later, Imo > > > > > > - Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Research Project > > > > > > The first significant database designed to help people find their family > > > trees through DNA will be announced Monday, March 1. The non-profit > > > Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation is introducing the most > > > comprehensive DNA genealogy database available today. It will link > > > scientific data and family trees. The project is called the Molecular > > > Genealogy Research Project, or MGRP. > > > > > > This database has excellent "credentials" of its own. The idea came from > > > billionaire businessman, James Sorenson. According to Sorenson, his goal > >is > > > simply to bring people together. "It connects you in a unique way to many, > > > many people out there. Many, many." Scott R. Woodward, Ph.D., is the Chief > > > Scientific Officer of the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation. Dr. > > > Woodward is well known for his DNA work at Brigham Young University. He > >and > > > his team have attended many genealogy conventions in the past few years, > > > collecting DNA samples and pedigree charts. You can read more about Dr. > > > Woodward's work in past newsletters at > > > > ><http://www.eogn.com/archives/news0016.htm>http://www.eogn.com/archives/new s > >0016.htm, > > > http://www.eogn.com/archives/news0034.htm, > > > > ><http://www.eogn.com/archives/news0111.htm>http://www.eogn.com/archives/new s > >0111.htm, > > > and > > > > ><http://www.eogn.com/archives/news0202.htm>http://www.eogn.com/archives/new s > >0202.htm. > > > > > > > > > The new database already has more than 40,000 names, but the Sorenson > > > Molecular Genealogy Foundation wants many more. In fact, the Foundation > > > wants your DNA, too. To add to the database, you order a packet online. In > > > that packet you receive a consent form, a genealogy chart, and a little > > > bottle of mouthwash that you swish in your mouth for 45 seconds. You > >simply > > > collect everything into the enclosed plastic bag, place the bag into a > > > pre-addressed stamped envelope, and drop it in the mailbox. The Sorenson > > > Foundation will then analyze your DNA free of charge and add the > > > information to the new database. > > > > > > Free of charge? Yes, indeed. As Dr. Woodward said about the Sorenson > > > Foundation, "They are receiving nothing back personally. This is > > > altruistic. This is completely beneficial to, hopefully, the whole family > > > of man. I'm amazed that we have had so many people willing to do that." > > > > > > DNA will be taken from your sample cells and a genetic profile created. > > > This profile, together with your genealogical pedigree, will be placed > >into > > > the database. All information and samples will be encoded in such a way as > > > to remove your personal identification. A link will remain available to > >the > > > researchers, but not to anyone else. No unauthorized person will ever be > > > able to see your name or your DNA information. The information from th is > > > study will be used only for genealogical services and determination of > > > family migration patterns and geographic origins. > > > > > > Quoting from the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Research Project Web site: > > > > > > Your unique personal identity is considered strictly confidential and > > > private. Your unique personal identity will not be disclosed in any > >general > > > or scientific publication of the data. Samples and files containing this > > > information will be stored in a secure facility. The individuals who will > > > have access to the codes and genealogy information will be the principal > > > investigator and the research staff. > > > > > > While you can participate free of charge, be aware that you do not receive > > > any information back. Why would anyone want to do that? For three reasons: > > > > > > * The desire to help others with their genealogical research. > > > * Satisfaction of knowing that you are a part of a worldwide project. > > > * Preservation of your genetic information for posterity. > > > > > > Details of the free DNA submission process can be found at > > > > ><http://smgf.org:8081/pubgen/site3.jsp>http://smgf.org:8081/pubgen/site3.js p > >. > > > > > > The second service is a fee-based search for your ancestry. According to > > > preliminary information, for about $ 200 you can receive a report on your > > > 'Y" chromosome signature. Using information in the report, you can search > > > for matching codes among the 40,000 DNA samples already in the database. > > > (Privacy is assured. Nobody is ever given your name, address, or other > > > personal information without your consent.) At this point, the available > > > information only goes back to the 1400s, but that is a start. > > > > > > If your DNA does not match any of the 40,000 existing samples, you will > > > receive scientific information as to where your paternal line originated > > > and other migratory information that has been determined. Future possi ble > > > matches are always possible, of course. The searches will cost. > > > > > > Scott R. Woodward, Ph.D., Chief Scientific Officer, said, "If we can tease > > > that information out of our genes, about who our parents are and who our > > > grandparents are, we can convert that into genealogical information, and > > > that's the purpose of this database." > > > > > > For now, the MGRP is set up to trace only male ancestors. Maternal side > > > searches are expected to be added within a few months. > > > > > > The non-profit Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation is looking for > > > people who want to share their genealogy. The MGRP website will be > > > available Monday. You can obtain preliminary information right now at > > > <http://www.smgf.org/>http://www.smgf.org. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks so very much IMO.. Read about it and see how it works..I'm gonna > > > send mine in real soon. > > > > > > Love, SUSAN > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > > > > > > If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: > > > barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) > > > > > > > > > If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: > > > BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) > > > > > > > > >==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== > >To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > > > >If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: > >barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > > > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) > > > > > >If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: > >BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > > > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) > > > > > ==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > > If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: > barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) > > > If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: > BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) >

Jean: Are you talking of the archives of this mailing list? or of the Barlow Clearinghouse? The Clearinghouse is up and well...though Canada and England are taken care of by Chris Barlow instead of myself these days. Visit at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~barlow/ or to go to England ... click on: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~barlow/england/index.htm I am still in the process of updating...long long process, trying to add documentation as I go. Love, Susan At 12:44 PM 3/3/2004, you wrote: >Hello Susan, I caznnot get onto the Barlow Rootsweb, have tried several >times, I thought it had been taken off, what is wrong?? best wishes Jean. >Canada. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Susan BARLOW Holmes" <sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net> >To: <BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 11:13 PM >Subject: [BARLOW] DNA NEW STUFF > > > > Imo Greenwood sent this to me this morning..I had not renewed my > > subscription since my address change...but this is quite interesting. I > > did a comparison with my family's DNA from our Barlow DNA Project, and >find > > that we match within 1 marker from the Israel Barlow and Elizabeth Haven > > Barlow..The Mormon bunch...making us about 18 generations away... This >will > > be quite interesting to the John Barlow of Fairfield Ct bunch, because > > while we were only one marker from them..they are also 1 markers from > > Israel...again approximately 18 generations. ...and also...to the Edmund >of > > Malden Barlow's...as they have traced their lineage to Israel...so we are > > beginning to tie into one another........Now to find where. > > > > No matches in their database for the Germanna Bunch... > > > > With still only 12 markers on the IOW and John and Martha Wadell > > Families...there were no Barlow matches...but a whole lot of different > > surnames matching 9-11 markers. > > > > > > Also...of interest to this...is that these DNA tests offered at this > > project are free...and for not only men, but women......entire families.. > > Check it out.. > > > > > > This was in the Richard Eastman genealogy news letter. I thought you > > might like to read it, if you do not get his news letter. Very >interesting > > about this DNA project. For Eastman's full news letter click on this web > > site: The 1 March 2004 version of Eastman's Online Genealogy > > Newsletter - Standard Edition is now available at > > <http://www.eogn.com>http://www.eogn.com. > > Later, Imo > > > > - Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Research Project > > > > The first significant database designed to help people find their family > > trees through DNA will be announced Monday, March 1. The non-profit > > Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation is introducing the most > > comprehensive DNA genealogy database available today. It will link > > scientific data and family trees. The project is called the Molecular > > Genealogy Research Project, or MGRP. > > > > This database has excellent "credentials" of its own. The idea came from > > billionaire businessman, James Sorenson. According to Sorenson, his goal >is > > simply to bring people together. "It connects you in a unique way to many, > > many people out there. Many, many." Scott R. Woodward, Ph.D., is the Chief > > Scientific Officer of the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation. Dr. > > Woodward is well known for his DNA work at Brigham Young University. He >and > > his team have attended many genealogy conventions in the past few years, > > collecting DNA samples and pedigree charts. You can read more about Dr. > > Woodward's work in past newsletters at > > ><http://www.eogn.com/archives/news0016.htm>http://www.eogn.com/archives/news >0016.htm, > > http://www.eogn.com/archives/news0034.htm, > > ><http://www.eogn.com/archives/news0111.htm>http://www.eogn.com/archives/news >0111.htm, > > and > > ><http://www.eogn.com/archives/news0202.htm>http://www.eogn.com/archives/news >0202.htm. > > > > > > The new database already has more than 40,000 names, but the Sorenson > > Molecular Genealogy Foundation wants many more. In fact, the Foundation > > wants your DNA, too. To add to the database, you order a packet online. In > > that packet you receive a consent form, a genealogy chart, and a little > > bottle of mouthwash that you swish in your mouth for 45 seconds. You >simply > > collect everything into the enclosed plastic bag, place the bag into a > > pre-addressed stamped envelope, and drop it in the mailbox. The Sorenson > > Foundation will then analyze your DNA free of charge and add the > > information to the new database. > > > > Free of charge? Yes, indeed. As Dr. Woodward said about the Sorenson > > Foundation, "They are receiving nothing back personally. This is > > altruistic. This is completely beneficial to, hopefully, the whole family > > of man. I'm amazed that we have had so many people willing to do that." > > > > DNA will be taken from your sample cells and a genetic profile created. > > This profile, together with your genealogical pedigree, will be placed >into > > the database. All information and samples will be encoded in such a way as > > to remove your personal identification. A link will remain available to >the > > researchers, but not to anyone else. No unauthorized person will ever be > > able to see your name or your DNA information. The information from this > > study will be used only for genealogical services and determination of > > family migration patterns and geographic origins. > > > > Quoting from the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Research Project Web site: > > > > Your unique personal identity is considered strictly confidential and > > private. Your unique personal identity will not be disclosed in any >general > > or scientific publication of the data. Samples and files containing this > > information will be stored in a secure facility. The individuals who will > > have access to the codes and genealogy information will be the principal > > investigator and the research staff. > > > > While you can participate free of charge, be aware that you do not receive > > any information back. Why would anyone want to do that? For three reasons: > > > > * The desire to help others with their genealogical research. > > * Satisfaction of knowing that you are a part of a worldwide project. > > * Preservation of your genetic information for posterity. > > > > Details of the free DNA submission process can be found at > > ><http://smgf.org:8081/pubgen/site3.jsp>http://smgf.org:8081/pubgen/site3.jsp >. > > > > The second service is a fee-based search for your ancestry. According to > > preliminary information, for about $ 200 you can receive a report on your > > 'Y" chromosome signature. Using information in the report, you can search > > for matching codes among the 40,000 DNA samples already in the database. > > (Privacy is assured. Nobody is ever given your name, address, or other > > personal information without your consent.) At this point, the available > > information only goes back to the 1400s, but that is a start. > > > > If your DNA does not match any of the 40,000 existing samples, you will > > receive scientific information as to where your paternal line originated > > and other migratory information that has been determined. Future possible > > matches are always possible, of course. The searches will cost. > > > > Scott R. Woodward, Ph.D., Chief Scientific Officer, said, "If we can tease > > that information out of our genes, about who our parents are and who our > > grandparents are, we can convert that into genealogical information, and > > that's the purpose of this database." > > > > For now, the MGRP is set up to trace only male ancestors. Maternal side > > searches are expected to be added within a few months. > > > > The non-profit Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation is looking for > > people who want to share their genealogy. The MGRP website will be > > available Monday. You can obtain preliminary information right now at > > <http://www.smgf.org/>http://www.smgf.org. > > > > > > > > Thanks so very much IMO.. Read about it and see how it works..I'm gonna > > send mine in real soon. > > > > Love, SUSAN > > > > > > > > ==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > > > > If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: > > barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > > > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) > > > > > > If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: > > BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > > > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) > > > > >==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== >To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > >If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: >barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) > > >If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: >BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.)

Hello Susan, I caznnot get onto the Barlow Rootsweb, have tried several times, I thought it had been taken off, what is wrong?? best wishes Jean. Canada. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan BARLOW Holmes" <sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net> To: <BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 11:13 PM Subject: [BARLOW] DNA NEW STUFF > Imo Greenwood sent this to me this morning..I had not renewed my > subscription since my address change...but this is quite interesting. I > did a comparison with my family's DNA from our Barlow DNA Project, and find > that we match within 1 marker from the Israel Barlow and Elizabeth Haven > Barlow..The Mormon bunch...making us about 18 generations away... This will > be quite interesting to the John Barlow of Fairfield Ct bunch, because > while we were only one marker from them..they are also 1 markers from > Israel...again approximately 18 generations. ...and also...to the Edmund of > Malden Barlow's...as they have traced their lineage to Israel...so we are > beginning to tie into one another........Now to find where. > > No matches in their database for the Germanna Bunch... > > With still only 12 markers on the IOW and John and Martha Wadell > Families...there were no Barlow matches...but a whole lot of different > surnames matching 9-11 markers. > > > Also...of interest to this...is that these DNA tests offered at this > project are free...and for not only men, but women......entire families.. > Check it out.. > > > This was in the Richard Eastman genealogy news letter. I thought you > might like to read it, if you do not get his news letter. Very interesting > about this DNA project. For Eastman's full news letter click on this web > site: The 1 March 2004 version of Eastman's Online Genealogy > Newsletter - Standard Edition is now available at > <http://www.eogn.com>http://www.eogn.com. > Later, Imo > > - Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Research Project > > The first significant database designed to help people find their family > trees through DNA will be announced Monday, March 1. The non-profit > Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation is introducing the most > comprehensive DNA genealogy database available today. It will link > scientific data and family trees. The project is called the Molecular > Genealogy Research Project, or MGRP. > > This database has excellent "credentials" of its own. The idea came from > billionaire businessman, James Sorenson. According to Sorenson, his goal is > simply to bring people together. "It connects you in a unique way to many, > many people out there. Many, many." Scott R. Woodward, Ph.D., is the Chief > Scientific Officer of the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation. Dr. > Woodward is well known for his DNA work at Brigham Young University. He and > his team have attended many genealogy conventions in the past few years, > collecting DNA samples and pedigree charts. You can read more about Dr. > Woodward's work in past newsletters at > <http://www.eogn.com/archives/news0016.htm>http://www.eogn.com/archives/news 0016.htm, > http://www.eogn.com/archives/news0034.htm, > <http://www.eogn.com/archives/news0111.htm>http://www.eogn.com/archives/news 0111.htm, > and > <http://www.eogn.com/archives/news0202.htm>http://www.eogn.com/archives/news 0202.htm. > > > The new database already has more than 40,000 names, but the Sorenson > Molecular Genealogy Foundation wants many more. In fact, the Foundation > wants your DNA, too. To add to the database, you order a packet online. In > that packet you receive a consent form, a genealogy chart, and a little > bottle of mouthwash that you swish in your mouth for 45 seconds. You simply > collect everything into the enclosed plastic bag, place the bag into a > pre-addressed stamped envelope, and drop it in the mailbox. The Sorenson > Foundation will then analyze your DNA free of charge and add the > information to the new database. > > Free of charge? Yes, indeed. As Dr. Woodward said about the Sorenson > Foundation, "They are receiving nothing back personally. This is > altruistic. This is completely beneficial to, hopefully, the whole family > of man. I'm amazed that we have had so many people willing to do that." > > DNA will be taken from your sample cells and a genetic profile created. > This profile, together with your genealogical pedigree, will be placed into > the database. All information and samples will be encoded in such a way as > to remove your personal identification. A link will remain available to the > researchers, but not to anyone else. No unauthorized person will ever be > able to see your name or your DNA information. The information from this > study will be used only for genealogical services and determination of > family migration patterns and geographic origins. > > Quoting from the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Research Project Web site: > > Your unique personal identity is considered strictly confidential and > private. Your unique personal identity will not be disclosed in any general > or scientific publication of the data. Samples and files containing this > information will be stored in a secure facility. The individuals who will > have access to the codes and genealogy information will be the principal > investigator and the research staff. > > While you can participate free of charge, be aware that you do not receive > any information back. Why would anyone want to do that? For three reasons: > > * The desire to help others with their genealogical research. > * Satisfaction of knowing that you are a part of a worldwide project. > * Preservation of your genetic information for posterity. > > Details of the free DNA submission process can be found at > <http://smgf.org:8081/pubgen/site3.jsp>http://smgf.org:8081/pubgen/site3.jsp . > > The second service is a fee-based search for your ancestry. According to > preliminary information, for about $ 200 you can receive a report on your > 'Y" chromosome signature. Using information in the report, you can search > for matching codes among the 40,000 DNA samples already in the database. > (Privacy is assured. Nobody is ever given your name, address, or other > personal information without your consent.) At this point, the available > information only goes back to the 1400s, but that is a start. > > If your DNA does not match any of the 40,000 existing samples, you will > receive scientific information as to where your paternal line originated > and other migratory information that has been determined. Future possible > matches are always possible, of course. The searches will cost. > > Scott R. Woodward, Ph.D., Chief Scientific Officer, said, "If we can tease > that information out of our genes, about who our parents are and who our > grandparents are, we can convert that into genealogical information, and > that's the purpose of this database." > > For now, the MGRP is set up to trace only male ancestors. Maternal side > searches are expected to be added within a few months. > > The non-profit Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation is looking for > people who want to share their genealogy. The MGRP website will be > available Monday. You can obtain preliminary information right now at > <http://www.smgf.org/>http://www.smgf.org. > > > > Thanks so very much IMO.. Read about it and see how it works..I'm gonna > send mine in real soon. > > Love, SUSAN > > > > ==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > > If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: > barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) > > > If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: > BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) >

Imo Greenwood sent this to me this morning..I had not renewed my subscription since my address change...but this is quite interesting. I did a comparison with my family's DNA from our Barlow DNA Project, and find that we match within 1 marker from the Israel Barlow and Elizabeth Haven Barlow..The Mormon bunch...making us about 18 generations away... This will be quite interesting to the John Barlow of Fairfield Ct bunch, because while we were only one marker from them..they are also 1 markers from Israel...again approximately 18 generations. ...and also...to the Edmund of Malden Barlow's...as they have traced their lineage to Israel...so we are beginning to tie into one another........Now to find where. No matches in their database for the Germanna Bunch... With still only 12 markers on the IOW and John and Martha Wadell Families...there were no Barlow matches...but a whole lot of different surnames matching 9-11 markers. Also...of interest to this...is that these DNA tests offered at this project are free...and for not only men, but women......entire families.. Check it out.. This was in the Richard Eastman genealogy news letter. I thought you might like to read it, if you do not get his news letter. Very interesting about this DNA project. For Eastman's full news letter click on this web site: The 1 March 2004 version of Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter - Standard Edition is now available at <http://www.eogn.com>http://www.eogn.com. Later, Imo - Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Research Project The first significant database designed to help people find their family trees through DNA will be announced Monday, March 1. The non-profit Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation is introducing the most comprehensive DNA genealogy database available today. It will link scientific data and family trees. The project is called the Molecular Genealogy Research Project, or MGRP. This database has excellent "credentials" of its own. The idea came from billionaire businessman, James Sorenson. According to Sorenson, his goal is simply to bring people together. "It connects you in a unique way to many, many people out there. Many, many." Scott R. Woodward, Ph.D., is the Chief Scientific Officer of the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation. Dr. Woodward is well known for his DNA work at Brigham Young University. He and his team have attended many genealogy conventions in the past few years, collecting DNA samples and pedigree charts. You can read more about Dr. Woodward's work in past newsletters at <http://www.eogn.com/archives/news0016.htm>http://www.eogn.com/archives/news0016.htm, http://www.eogn.com/archives/news0034.htm, <http://www.eogn.com/archives/news0111.htm>http://www.eogn.com/archives/news0111.htm, and <http://www.eogn.com/archives/news0202.htm>http://www.eogn.com/archives/news0202.htm. The new database already has more than 40,000 names, but the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation wants many more. In fact, the Foundation wants your DNA, too. To add to the database, you order a packet online. In that packet you receive a consent form, a genealogy chart, and a little bottle of mouthwash that you swish in your mouth for 45 seconds. You simply collect everything into the enclosed plastic bag, place the bag into a pre-addressed stamped envelope, and drop it in the mailbox. The Sorenson Foundation will then analyze your DNA free of charge and add the information to the new database. Free of charge? Yes, indeed. As Dr. Woodward said about the Sorenson Foundation, "They are receiving nothing back personally. This is altruistic. This is completely beneficial to, hopefully, the whole family of man. I'm amazed that we have had so many people willing to do that." DNA will be taken from your sample cells and a genetic profile created. This profile, together with your genealogical pedigree, will be placed into the database. All information and samples will be encoded in such a way as to remove your personal identification. A link will remain available to the researchers, but not to anyone else. No unauthorized person will ever be able to see your name or your DNA information. The information from this study will be used only for genealogical services and determination of family migration patterns and geographic origins. Quoting from the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Research Project Web site: Your unique personal identity is considered strictly confidential and private. Your unique personal identity will not be disclosed in any general or scientific publication of the data. Samples and files containing this information will be stored in a secure facility. The individuals who will have access to the codes and genealogy information will be the principal investigator and the research staff. While you can participate free of charge, be aware that you do not receive any information back. Why would anyone want to do that? For three reasons: * The desire to help others with their genealogical research. * Satisfaction of knowing that you are a part of a worldwide project. * Preservation of your genetic information for posterity. Details of the free DNA submission process can be found at <http://smgf.org:8081/pubgen/site3.jsp>http://smgf.org:8081/pubgen/site3.jsp. The second service is a fee-based search for your ancestry. According to preliminary information, for about $ 200 you can receive a report on your 'Y" chromosome signature. Using information in the report, you can search for matching codes among the 40,000 DNA samples already in the database. (Privacy is assured. Nobody is ever given your name, address, or other personal information without your consent.) At this point, the available information only goes back to the 1400s, but that is a start. If your DNA does not match any of the 40,000 existing samples, you will receive scientific information as to where your paternal line originated and other migratory information that has been determined. Future possible matches are always possible, of course. The searches will cost. Scott R. Woodward, Ph.D., Chief Scientific Officer, said, "If we can tease that information out of our genes, about who our parents are and who our grandparents are, we can convert that into genealogical information, and that's the purpose of this database." For now, the MGRP is set up to trace only male ancestors. Maternal side searches are expected to be added within a few months. The non-profit Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation is looking for people who want to share their genealogy. The MGRP website will be available Monday. You can obtain preliminary information right now at <http://www.smgf.org/>http://www.smgf.org. Thanks so very much IMO.. Read about it and see how it works..I'm gonna send mine in real soon. Love, SUSAN