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    1. Re: BARLOW-D Digest V05 #70
    2. Susan-- The W. John Barlow of Adams County Illinois is a name similar to my line--John W. Barlow of Clark County Illinois. Does the W. John Barlow descendant have other lineage information? --Marc Barlow

    09/16/2005 07:13:26
    1. RE: [BARLOW] Re: BARLOW-D Digest V05 #70
    2. Susan BARLOW Holmes
    3. What you see is all he sent me in his gedcom. He has no clue of his lineage further than that, that's the reason for the DNA testing. Susan Looking for Barlows, anywhere....anytime, including all variants and spellings of the name, Barlo, Barloe, Barlowe, Parlar, Barler, Barlar, Barlage, etc... -----Original Message----- From: Lebuanic@aol.com [mailto:Lebuanic@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 12:13 AM To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BARLOW] Re: BARLOW-D Digest V05 #70 Susan-- The W. John Barlow of Adams County Illinois is a name similar to my line--John W. Barlow of Clark County Illinois. Does the W. John Barlow descendant have other lineage information? --Marc Barlow ==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.)

    09/16/2005 06:48:44
    1. barryrb@aol.com
    2. Susan BARLOW Holmes
    3. A new lineage is posted. The family of W. John Barlow and Elizabeth Martha Patsy Harness of Adams Co Illinois, whose families migrated to California and some into Washington. A member of the family tested for DNA, but it does not match any we currently have online..I suggest he is either from George of Sandwich or Edmund of Malden, my guess, George of Sandwich. (But my thoughts are just that, don't mean a thing!) http://www.barlowgenealogy.com/Families/Barlow-Harness If anyone recognizes this family, as a part of their own, let me know, and we'll see what we can put together. Susan Looking for Barlows, anywhere....anytime, including all variants and spellings of the name, Barlo, Barloe, Barlowe, Parlar, Barler, Barlar, Barlage, etc...

    09/15/2005 08:07:37
    1. RE: [BARLOW] William C & Margaret Barlow
    2. Kimberly Granholm
    3. Maureen I have a Clyde Doty Barlow in my family. He was born in NY to James and Gertrude Doty Barlow. Probably not the same Clyde, but doesnt hurt to ask! Kim >From: barlow_tree@comcast.net >Reply-To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com >To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [BARLOW] William C & Margaret Barlow >Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 01:56:07 +0000 >Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([66.43.18.41]) by MC6-F7.hotmail.com >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:59:45 -0700 >Received: (from slist@localhost)by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id >j8E1uEiq031145;Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:56:14 -0600 >X-Message-Info: vAu4ZEtdRigK55zFKG04khsDOKIvQ/wCCt6847m8fHI= >Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:56:14 -0600 >X-Original-Sender: barlow_tree@comcast.net Tue Sep 13 19:56:14 2005 >Old-To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com, Stevensjg@aol.com >X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 17 2004) >X-Authenticated-Sender: YmFybG93X3RyZWVAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ= >X-Spam-Score: 2.647 (**) >DNS_FROM_RFC_POST,DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS,NO_REAL_NAME,RCVD_BY_IP,RCVD_DOUBLE_IP_LOOSE,RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO >X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.16.34 >Resent-Message-ID: <zPiaaC.A.YmH.-M4JDB@lists5.rootsweb.com> >Resent-From: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/3558 >X-Loop: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: BARLOW-L-request@rootsweb.com >Return-Path: BARLOW-L-request@rootsweb.com >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Sep 2005 01:59:45.0560 (UTC) >FILETIME=[FACFF180:01C5B8CF] > >Kathy~ Where are your William C & Margaret (?) Barlow, parents of Elvia >Cora, from? Do you know what the "C" in William's middle name represents? >My grandfather's name was Clyde Barlow. His son was William and daughter's >name was Margaret. May be coincidence; may be significant! I have them >from PA and NY. Any bells? Thanks ~Maureen > > > > Content-Type: text/plain > > > > BARLOW-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 68 > > > > Today's Topics: > > #1 Re: BARLOW-D Digest V05 #67 [Stevensjg@aol.com] > > > > Administrivia: > > To unsubscribe from BARLOW-D, send a message to > > > > BARLOW-D-request@rootsweb.com > > > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > > > unsubscribe > > > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires > > one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > > > >______________________________> X-Message: #1 > > Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:12:51 EDT > > From: Stevensjg@aol.com > > To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <210.8e3ab76.30578193@aol.com> > > Subject: Re: BARLOW-D Digest V05 #67 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > I appreciate all the feedback. I really feel at a loss. > > > > My first Barlow is Elvia Cora Barlow b. 11/25/1864 m. James Lawrence >Burke > > > > Her parents were: William C Barlow m. Margaret ? > > > > William's father was Zachariah Barlow. > > > > Afraid this is what I have to this point. Any suggestions would be >helpful > > and very much appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > Kathy > > >==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== >To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > >If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: >barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) > > >If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: >BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) >

    09/14/2005 03:30:23
    1. William C & Margaret Barlow
    2. Kathy~ Where are your William C & Margaret (?) Barlow, parents of Elvia Cora, from? Do you know what the "C" in William's middle name represents? My grandfather's name was Clyde Barlow. His son was William and daughter's name was Margaret. May be coincidence; may be significant! I have them from PA and NY. Any bells? Thanks ~Maureen > Content-Type: text/plain > > BARLOW-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 68 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Re: BARLOW-D Digest V05 #67 [Stevensjg@aol.com] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from BARLOW-D, send a message to > > BARLOW-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires > one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________> X-Message: #1 > Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:12:51 EDT > From: Stevensjg@aol.com > To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <210.8e3ab76.30578193@aol.com> > Subject: Re: BARLOW-D Digest V05 #67 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I appreciate all the feedback. I really feel at a loss. > > My first Barlow is Elvia Cora Barlow b. 11/25/1864 m. James Lawrence Burke > > Her parents were: William C Barlow m. Margaret ? > > William's father was Zachariah Barlow. > > Afraid this is what I have to this point. Any suggestions would be helpful > and very much appreciated. > > Thanks, > Kathy

    09/13/2005 07:56:07
    1. Re: BARLOW-D Digest V05 #67
    2. I appreciate all the feedback. I really feel at a loss. My first Barlow is Elvia Cora Barlow b. 11/25/1864 m. James Lawrence Burke Her parents were: William C Barlow m. Margaret ? William's father was Zachariah Barlow. Afraid this is what I have to this point. Any suggestions would be helpful and very much appreciated. Thanks, Kathy

    09/12/2005 03:12:51
    1. RE: [BARLOW] How do you know
    2. Kimberly Granholm
    3. Who are your Barlows, and where are they from? Maybe you can connect to someone else's family? I'm constantly looking for cousins in hoping to find where my Barlow family connects! Kim >From: Stevensjg@aol.com >Reply-To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com >To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [BARLOW] How do you know >Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:11:45 EDT >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([66.43.18.41]) by mc3-f32.hotmail.com >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 10 Sep 2005 16:15:20 -0700 >Received: (from slist@localhost)by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id >j8ANBv2A015744;Sat, 10 Sep 2005 17:11:57 -0600 >X-Message-Info: vAu4ZEtdRiiRvQKyCFEbFkHMX3INn3JXKKAS+NLc/fE= >Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 17:11:57 -0600 >X-Original-Sender: Stevensjg@aol.com Sat Sep 10 17:11:56 2005 >Old-To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5041 >X-Spam-Flag: NO >X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.16.34 >Resent-Message-ID: <D7PL-C.A.i1D.9g2IDB@lists5.rootsweb.com> >Resent-From: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/3552 >X-Loop: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: BARLOW-L-request@rootsweb.com >Return-Path: BARLOW-L-request@rootsweb.com >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2005 23:15:20.0132 (UTC) >FILETIME=[8351D840:01C5B65D] > >I have Barlow's in my family but do not know any living. How would I go >about the testing to see which line would be my families? > >Kathy Jones Stevens > > >==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== >To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > >If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: >barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) > > >If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: >BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) >

    09/11/2005 10:30:28
    1. Re: [BARLOW] How do you know
    2. Sue Dixey
    3. OK, I am really not up on this so here goes my question(s). I know for a fact that I have a Barlow in my tree. My fathers mother was a Hatcher and her mother was a Barlow, meaning her father was a Barlow. Obviously I am living and my father is living to. I believe I know what family my Barlow is connected to, however, if I am correct he changed his first name, so there is no direct paper trail. If my presumptions are correct then I would connect to the Germanna Barlows, the ones that wound up in NelsonCo, KY. So would I test or better to have my father test, which I think he would be willing to do? thanks for any info from someone really up on this stuff. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Barlow" <jebarlow@uiuc.edu> To: <BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [BARLOW] How do you know > It might be possible to get some good clues by the use of mitochondrial > (m or mt DNA). This form of DNA is not nuclear but rather in the > cytoplasm outside, but you can use it to trace back maternally. So would > it not be possible to look back at mothers and match them up with the > husbands? ... would that lead you to a Barlow male in your tree?? Just > tossing that out. I can't tell from the reference material if that would > work or not. > > See: http://genealogy.about.com/b/a/119896.htm > > http://www.familytreedna.com/ > > http://www.healthanddna.com/female.html > > & what you can and can't learn from testing: http:// > genealogy.about.com/cs/geneticgenealogy/a/dna_tests_2.htm > > Jim Barlow, list owner > Champaign, IL > > > > > > On Sep 10, 2005, at 10:32 PM, Susan BARLOW Holmes wrote: > >> Without a living male Barlow, there is no way to find out that I can >> think of. Keep up the research, and perhaps a male will show up >> somewhere in the line eventually. >> Love, Susan >> > > > ==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > > If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: > barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) > > > If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: > BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) > >

    09/11/2005 09:38:09
    1. Re: [BARLOW] How do you know
    2. Jim Barlow
    3. It might be possible to get some good clues by the use of mitochondrial (m or mt DNA). This form of DNA is not nuclear but rather in the cytoplasm outside, but you can use it to trace back maternally. So would it not be possible to look back at mothers and match them up with the husbands? ... would that lead you to a Barlow male in your tree?? Just tossing that out. I can't tell from the reference material if that would work or not. See: http://genealogy.about.com/b/a/119896.htm http://www.familytreedna.com/ http://www.healthanddna.com/female.html & what you can and can't learn from testing: http:// genealogy.about.com/cs/geneticgenealogy/a/dna_tests_2.htm Jim Barlow, list owner Champaign, IL On Sep 10, 2005, at 10:32 PM, Susan BARLOW Holmes wrote: > Without a living male Barlow, there is no way to find out that I can > think of. Keep up the research, and perhaps a male will show up > somewhere in the line eventually. > Love, Susan >

    09/11/2005 04:05:10
    1. RE: [BARLOW] How do you know
    2. Susan BARLOW Holmes
    3. Without a living male Barlow, there is no way to find out that I can think of. Keep up the research, and perhaps a male will show up somewhere in the line eventually. Love, Susan Looking for Barlows, anywhere....anytime, including all variants and spellings of the name, Barlo, Barloe, Barlowe, Parlar, Barler, Barlar, Barlage, etc... -----Original Message----- From: Stevensjg@aol.com [mailto:Stevensjg@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 6:12 PM To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BARLOW] How do you know I have Barlow's in my family but do not know any living. How would I go about the testing to see which line would be my families? Kathy Jones Stevens ==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.)

    09/10/2005 04:32:53
    1. How do you know
    2. I have Barlow's in my family but do not know any living. How would I go about the testing to see which line would be my families? Kathy Jones Stevens

    09/10/2005 01:11:45
    1. RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing
    2. Susan BARLOW Holmes
    3. The test is basically a q-tip swabbed around inside the mouth, and sent back in. To order the test, go to: http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=C37458&special=True Don't look at the pricing at the top, go to the very bottom of the page, and use the drop down list for group pricing. Fill out the form above that, and then choose which test you will be ordering. The test should arrive within the week, but takes about 6 weeks to get the results once they receive it back from you uncle. You have your choice whether to choose it as a private or public. Meaning, we can see the numbers, but won't have a clue whose they are, except identified as George Barlow of Canada/Michigan. Nobody that finds themselves related to you, and would like to converse with you, will be able to if you go private. If an e-mail address is provided, public ... then others may contact you. I suggest ordering in your name, and then your uncle won't have to do anything but do the swab. You can take care of the genealogy end, and nobody needs to know whose DNA we have on file. Susan Looking for Barlows, anywhere....anytime, including all variants and spellings of the name, Barlo, Barloe, Barlowe, Parlar, Barler, Barlar, Barlage, etc... -----Original Message----- From: Judy Huff [mailto:judyhuff@starband.net] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 7:46 PM To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing OK my uncle has agreed to do the test. What do I do to get it? Is it complicated? He is in his early 80's so I hope it is easy. Judy > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan BARLOW Holmes [mailto:sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net] > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 4:06 PM > To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing > > > > The only suggestion I can make is to have your uncle do the 12 marker > DNA test, then if it matches one of the groups already tested, you will > know what direction to look in. That is precisely the reason we need a > result in our database for every known major group. Once you do the 12 > marker test, and find a family group to be in...you can upgrade the test > to either 25 or 37, and it will give you a better idea how closely you > are related, ie...whether you have a common ancestor in the last 100 > years, or the past 1000 years. Once you know which family group you are > in, then you could also find folks in the same family group to work with > in researching your family. The problem right now is that we do not > have a DNA score for George of Sandwich, Edmund of Malden, and Jonathan > of Nova Scotia, so if you are one of those family groups, you still > won't know anything..until someone comes along and tests, knowing they > are from that family group. So why should someone take the expensive > test when they already know the group they are in.......because, there > just may be a match between say, John of Fairfield to George of > Sandwich, who knows. Then we can begin to work on finding that > relationship. And we can add other families not previously known to be > a part of those families...such as my John, who comes from Mississippi. > I would have never dreamed that he was of the John of Fairfield Ct bunch > until DNA came along. A distant relationship for sure, and one that we > may never find, but we also learned that we have a very close > relationship to those in Georgia. For several years, I had determined > that my family was from Isle of Wight Virginia, or from Robeson CO North > Carolina, and spend hours of time trying to find connections, other than > places of origin, and naming practices. Then DNA told me that we are > absolutely no relation to them, thus making that time wasted, but will > save hours in the future. > > Who knows, perhaps George of Sandwich and John of Fairfield were > brothers, or first cousins...we won't ever know until we have all of the > DNA scores in for all known major groups. We have 2 tests online right > now who do not match any of our others, are they related to one of the > major groups not already tested...or are there other lines out there we > don't even know about. To date, I have found 7 major groups of Barlows. > We may narrow that down to 3 or 4 if all families test. Of course, we > all know that in the beginning, we were all related. But over the > thousands of years, we have lost our kinfolk, they went one way while we > went another. > > There is a link on the DNA ordering page to contribute funds for those > who cannot afford to take the test. Anyone interested in donating funds > to that, it would be most welcome. Once we have enough for a 12 marker > test, we can find a volunteer from one of the major groups not tested, > and perhaps with the funding, they would be willing to test. If you can > even give $5 or $10, that would be a beginning. These funds are held > within the Family Tree DNA database by the company, not by myself, and > aren't going anywhere until I specify where it should be used. And of > course, I would let the folks decide. Or you can even specify what > group you would like the money to be used for when you contribute. > > Susan > > > > Looking for Barlows, anywhere....anytime, including all variants and > spellings of the name, Barlo, Barloe, Barlowe, Parlar, Barler, Barlar, > Barlage, etc... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Judy Huff [mailto:judyhuff@starband.net] > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:52 PM > To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing > > What about those of us that have no clue what line we are from? I do > have > one uncle left to DNA test if I can get him to, but we do not know what > line. Our line back is Lyman William Barlow 5-15-1893 Michigan to > 8-31-1923 > Michigan, George A Barlow 4-15-1867 Canada to 4-15-1927 Michigan, > Possibly > father is a William/Will George Barlow of Canada and Mother is Mary Ann > Foster (Fortier)of Canada. I am stumped and do not seem to be able to > unclog! Judy > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Susan BARLOW Holmes [mailto:sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net] > > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:33 PM > > To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing > > > > > > For comparison sake. We have no DNA test results from those families. > > We can't tell if John of Fairfield is related to those families, > > etc..until we get a result. > > > > We need results from every known line to compare those who have no > clue > > what line they are in. We have a new result right now, no match to > > anything we have currently in our database, so he still doesn't know > > what line he is from. Should he be from Edmund of Malden, or one of > the > > groups that we have no results for, then he still doesn't know what > line > > he is from. Also. To see if any of our major lines are related, > closer > > than we know. For instance, a DNA result from another database > suggests > > that John of Fairfield is related to Edmund of Malden, but I have not > > seen the results for myself yet to know if that is correct, or how > close > > the relationship is, whether it is an exact match, or 36 out of 37 > > markers, or even perhaps only 34 out of 37, which is a great distance. > > As you know, we are all related at some point or other. > > > > Are you sufficiently confused yet? > > > > Love, Susan > > > > > > > > Looking for Barlows, anywhere....anytime, including all variants and > > spellings of the name, Barlo, Barloe, Barlowe, Parlar, Barler, Barlar, > > Barlage, etc... > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kimberly Granholm [mailto:kimberlyg1972@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 10:41 AM > > To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing > > > > Susan > > > > Very generous offer from annonymous! > > > > Question though? If the persons line has already been traced/proven > > to > > one of the families you listed, why test? I know that if i could > > connect my > > Nathaniel Barlow to ANY of the Barlow lines DNA testing wouldnt be > > needed.........at the same time DNA testing takes some of the fun out > of > > it > > ;) > > > > Not jelous, just curious! > > > > Kim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Susan BARLOW Holmes" <sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net> > > Reply-To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > > To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [BARLOW] DNA testing > > Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 17:02:57 -0500 > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([66.43.18.41]) by > > mc3-f31.hotmail.com > > with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 7 Sep 2005 15:06:43 -0700 > > Received: (from slist@localhost)by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) > > id > > j87M384V026009;Wed, 7 Sep 2005 16:03:08 -0600 > > >I have had a very generous offer from an anonymous donor willing to > pay > > >for a complete 37 marker DNA test for anyone that can has traced > their > > >genealogy back to any one of the following families. > > > > > >If we have a volunteer, remember first it has to be a male, with the > > >Barlow surname, and your name can be completely anonymous, except to > > >myself, as the administrator of the DNA project, and perhaps to the > > >person donating the funds.(I have not asked their opinion of that) we > > >would need to know your ancestral genealogy, for comparison with > > >others currently online. > > > > > >1rst choice would be a male Barlow from either of these lines: > > > > > >http://www.barlowgenealogy.com/Families/MormonFamilies/Oswald.html > > > > > > >http://www.barlowgenealogy.com/Families/MormonFamilies/Barlow-Hulme.htm > > l > > > > > >However, I would look favorably on someone who wanted to test from > one > > >these family lines: > > > > > >Israel Barlow - earliest ancestor Francis Barlow of Turton, > Lancashire > > >b1512 > > >Ebenezer Barlow - earliest ancestor Robert Barlow of St Leonards, > > >Shoreditch, London b1808 > > >William Francis Barlow - earliest ancestor George W. Barlow of Cairo, > > >New York b1832 > > > > > >Please contact me at: sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net > > > > > >Susan > > > > > > > > > > > >Looking for Barlows, anywhere....anytime, including all variants and > > >spellings of the name, Barlo, Barloe, Barlowe, Parlar, Barler, > Barlar, > > >Barlage, etc... > > > > > > > > > > > >==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== > > >To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > > > > > >If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: > > >barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of > > course.) > > > > > > > > >If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: > > >BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of > > course.) > > > > > > > > > > > ==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > > > > If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: > > barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > > > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of > > course.) > > > > > > If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: > > BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > > > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of > > course.) > > > > > > ==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > > > > If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: > > barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > > > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of > course.) > > > > > > If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: > > BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > > > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of > course.) > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.1211 (20050907) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > ==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > > If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: > barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of > course.) > > > If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: > BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of > course.) > > > ==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== > Your list owner is Jim Barlow (email: jebarlow@uiuc.edu) > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > > If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: > barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > > Type "unsubscribe" in both the Subject line and as the only word > in the body. (Without the quotes, of course.) > > > If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: > BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line and as the only word in > the body. (Without the quotes, of course.) > > > __________ NOD32 1.1212 (20050908) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > ==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.)

    09/09/2005 03:04:41
    1. RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing
    2. Judy Huff
    3. OK my uncle has agreed to do the test. What do I do to get it? Is it complicated? He is in his early 80's so I hope it is easy. Judy > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan BARLOW Holmes [mailto:sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net] > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 4:06 PM > To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing > > > > The only suggestion I can make is to have your uncle do the 12 marker > DNA test, then if it matches one of the groups already tested, you will > know what direction to look in. That is precisely the reason we need a > result in our database for every known major group. Once you do the 12 > marker test, and find a family group to be in...you can upgrade the test > to either 25 or 37, and it will give you a better idea how closely you > are related, ie...whether you have a common ancestor in the last 100 > years, or the past 1000 years. Once you know which family group you are > in, then you could also find folks in the same family group to work with > in researching your family. The problem right now is that we do not > have a DNA score for George of Sandwich, Edmund of Malden, and Jonathan > of Nova Scotia, so if you are one of those family groups, you still > won't know anything..until someone comes along and tests, knowing they > are from that family group. So why should someone take the expensive > test when they already know the group they are in.......because, there > just may be a match between say, John of Fairfield to George of > Sandwich, who knows. Then we can begin to work on finding that > relationship. And we can add other families not previously known to be > a part of those families...such as my John, who comes from Mississippi. > I would have never dreamed that he was of the John of Fairfield Ct bunch > until DNA came along. A distant relationship for sure, and one that we > may never find, but we also learned that we have a very close > relationship to those in Georgia. For several years, I had determined > that my family was from Isle of Wight Virginia, or from Robeson CO North > Carolina, and spend hours of time trying to find connections, other than > places of origin, and naming practices. Then DNA told me that we are > absolutely no relation to them, thus making that time wasted, but will > save hours in the future. > > Who knows, perhaps George of Sandwich and John of Fairfield were > brothers, or first cousins...we won't ever know until we have all of the > DNA scores in for all known major groups. We have 2 tests online right > now who do not match any of our others, are they related to one of the > major groups not already tested...or are there other lines out there we > don't even know about. To date, I have found 7 major groups of Barlows. > We may narrow that down to 3 or 4 if all families test. Of course, we > all know that in the beginning, we were all related. But over the > thousands of years, we have lost our kinfolk, they went one way while we > went another. > > There is a link on the DNA ordering page to contribute funds for those > who cannot afford to take the test. Anyone interested in donating funds > to that, it would be most welcome. Once we have enough for a 12 marker > test, we can find a volunteer from one of the major groups not tested, > and perhaps with the funding, they would be willing to test. If you can > even give $5 or $10, that would be a beginning. These funds are held > within the Family Tree DNA database by the company, not by myself, and > aren't going anywhere until I specify where it should be used. And of > course, I would let the folks decide. Or you can even specify what > group you would like the money to be used for when you contribute. > > Susan > > > > Looking for Barlows, anywhere....anytime, including all variants and > spellings of the name, Barlo, Barloe, Barlowe, Parlar, Barler, Barlar, > Barlage, etc... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Judy Huff [mailto:judyhuff@starband.net] > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:52 PM > To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing > > What about those of us that have no clue what line we are from? I do > have > one uncle left to DNA test if I can get him to, but we do not know what > line. Our line back is Lyman William Barlow 5-15-1893 Michigan to > 8-31-1923 > Michigan, George A Barlow 4-15-1867 Canada to 4-15-1927 Michigan, > Possibly > father is a William/Will George Barlow of Canada and Mother is Mary Ann > Foster (Fortier)of Canada. I am stumped and do not seem to be able to > unclog! Judy > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Susan BARLOW Holmes [mailto:sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net] > > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:33 PM > > To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing > > > > > > For comparison sake. We have no DNA test results from those families. > > We can't tell if John of Fairfield is related to those families, > > etc..until we get a result. > > > > We need results from every known line to compare those who have no > clue > > what line they are in. We have a new result right now, no match to > > anything we have currently in our database, so he still doesn't know > > what line he is from. Should he be from Edmund of Malden, or one of > the > > groups that we have no results for, then he still doesn't know what > line > > he is from. Also. To see if any of our major lines are related, > closer > > than we know. For instance, a DNA result from another database > suggests > > that John of Fairfield is related to Edmund of Malden, but I have not > > seen the results for myself yet to know if that is correct, or how > close > > the relationship is, whether it is an exact match, or 36 out of 37 > > markers, or even perhaps only 34 out of 37, which is a great distance. > > As you know, we are all related at some point or other. > > > > Are you sufficiently confused yet? > > > > Love, Susan > > > > > > > > Looking for Barlows, anywhere....anytime, including all variants and > > spellings of the name, Barlo, Barloe, Barlowe, Parlar, Barler, Barlar, > > Barlage, etc... > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kimberly Granholm [mailto:kimberlyg1972@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 10:41 AM > > To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing > > > > Susan > > > > Very generous offer from annonymous! > > > > Question though? If the persons line has already been traced/proven > > to > > one of the families you listed, why test? I know that if i could > > connect my > > Nathaniel Barlow to ANY of the Barlow lines DNA testing wouldnt be > > needed.........at the same time DNA testing takes some of the fun out > of > > it > > ;) > > > > Not jelous, just curious! > > > > Kim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Susan BARLOW Holmes" <sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net> > > Reply-To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > > To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [BARLOW] DNA testing > > Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 17:02:57 -0500 > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([66.43.18.41]) by > > mc3-f31.hotmail.com > > with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 7 Sep 2005 15:06:43 -0700 > > Received: (from slist@localhost)by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) > > id > > j87M384V026009;Wed, 7 Sep 2005 16:03:08 -0600 > > >I have had a very generous offer from an anonymous donor willing to > pay > > >for a complete 37 marker DNA test for anyone that can has traced > their > > >genealogy back to any one of the following families. > > > > > >If we have a volunteer, remember first it has to be a male, with the > > >Barlow surname, and your name can be completely anonymous, except to > > >myself, as the administrator of the DNA project, and perhaps to the > > >person donating the funds.(I have not asked their opinion of that) we > > >would need to know your ancestral genealogy, for comparison with > > >others currently online. > > > > > >1rst choice would be a male Barlow from either of these lines: > > > > > >http://www.barlowgenealogy.com/Families/MormonFamilies/Oswald.html > > > > > > >http://www.barlowgenealogy.com/Families/MormonFamilies/Barlow-Hulme.htm > > l > > > > > >However, I would look favorably on someone who wanted to test from > one > > >these family lines: > > > > > >Israel Barlow - earliest ancestor Francis Barlow of Turton, > Lancashire > > >b1512 > > >Ebenezer Barlow - earliest ancestor Robert Barlow of St Leonards, > > >Shoreditch, London b1808 > > >William Francis Barlow - earliest ancestor George W. Barlow of Cairo, > > >New York b1832 > > > > > >Please contact me at: sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net > > > > > >Susan > > > > > > > > > > > >Looking for Barlows, anywhere....anytime, including all variants and > > >spellings of the name, Barlo, Barloe, Barlowe, Parlar, Barler, > Barlar, > > >Barlage, etc... > > > > > > > > > > > >==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== > > >To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > > > > > >If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: > > >barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of > > course.) > > > > > > > > >If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: > > >BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of > > course.) > > > > > > > > > > > ==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > > > > If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: > > barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > > > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of > > course.) > > > > > > If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: > > BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > > > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of > > course.) > > > > > > ==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > > > > If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: > > barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > > > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of > course.) > > > > > > If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: > > BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > > > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of > course.) > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.1211 (20050907) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > ==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > > If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: > barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of > course.) > > > If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: > BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of > course.) > > > ==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== > Your list owner is Jim Barlow (email: jebarlow@uiuc.edu) > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > > If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: > barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > > Type "unsubscribe" in both the Subject line and as the only word > in the body. (Without the quotes, of course.) > > > If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: > BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line and as the only word in > the body. (Without the quotes, of course.) > > > __________ NOD32 1.1212 (20050908) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > >

    09/09/2005 02:46:12
    1. RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing
    2. Robert Barlow
    3. Hi Susan. Keep up the great work. As you know I am available for testing but still can't afford the total cost. My Barlow line goes back to George and Margaret b. about 1770 in Limehouse Middlesex and then to West Ham Essex. Blessings Robin In His Majesty's Service, Pastor Robin Barlow Drumbo Baptist Church Drumbo Ontario Canada --------------------------------- Find your next car at Yahoo! Canada Autos

    09/08/2005 02:24:56
    1. RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing
    2. Kimberly Granholm
    3. I see......I didn't realize that those families were not done. I forget sometimes that my Barlow's aren't the only Barlow family that can't be placed.......need to get out of my own genealogical world more often I think! Thanks for the no brainer! Kim >From: "Susan BARLOW Holmes" <sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net> >Reply-To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com >To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing >Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 11:32:34 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([66.43.18.41]) by mc4-f26.hotmail.com >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 8 Sep 2005 09:33:21 -0700 >Received: (from slist@localhost)by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id >j88GWjrg031660;Thu, 8 Sep 2005 10:32:45 -0600 >X-Message-Info: vAu4ZEtdRihZdT9zAxn19seyW6PNs/QEmeiASAdfDUc= >Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 10:32:45 -0600 >X-Original-Sender: sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net Thu Sep 8 10:32:44 2005 >Old-To: <BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com> >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 >X-broadbandsupportnet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for >more information >X-broadbandsupportnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean >X-broadbandsupportnet-MailScanner-From: sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net >X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.16.34 >Resent-Message-ID: <oR2GvB.A.CuH.teGIDB@lists5.rootsweb.com> >Resent-From: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/3545 >X-Loop: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: BARLOW-L-request@rootsweb.com >Return-Path: BARLOW-L-request@rootsweb.com >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Sep 2005 16:33:21.0483 (UTC) >FILETIME=[06A891B0:01C5B493] > >For comparison sake. We have no DNA test results from those families. >We can't tell if John of Fairfield is related to those families, >etc..until we get a result. > >We need results from every known line to compare those who have no clue >what line they are in. We have a new result right now, no match to >anything we have currently in our database, so he still doesn't know >what line he is from. Should he be from Edmund of Malden, or one of the >groups that we have no results for, then he still doesn't know what line >he is from. Also. To see if any of our major lines are related, closer >than we know. For instance, a DNA result from another database suggests >that John of Fairfield is related to Edmund of Malden, but I have not >seen the results for myself yet to know if that is correct, or how close >the relationship is, whether it is an exact match, or 36 out of 37 >markers, or even perhaps only 34 out of 37, which is a great distance. >As you know, we are all related at some point or other. > >Are you sufficiently confused yet? > >Love, Susan > > > >Looking for Barlows, anywhere....anytime, including all variants and >spellings of the name, Barlo, Barloe, Barlowe, Parlar, Barler, Barlar, >Barlage, etc... > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Kimberly Granholm [mailto:kimberlyg1972@hotmail.com] >Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 10:41 AM >To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing > >Susan > >Very generous offer from annonymous! > >Question though? If the persons line has already been traced/proven >to >one of the families you listed, why test? I know that if i could >connect my >Nathaniel Barlow to ANY of the Barlow lines DNA testing wouldnt be >needed.........at the same time DNA testing takes some of the fun out of >it >;) > >Not jelous, just curious! > >Kim > > > > > > > >From: "Susan BARLOW Holmes" <sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net> >Reply-To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com >To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [BARLOW] DNA testing >Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 17:02:57 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([66.43.18.41]) by >mc3-f31.hotmail.com >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 7 Sep 2005 15:06:43 -0700 >Received: (from slist@localhost)by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) >id >j87M384V026009;Wed, 7 Sep 2005 16:03:08 -0600 > >I have had a very generous offer from an anonymous donor willing to pay > >for a complete 37 marker DNA test for anyone that can has traced their > >genealogy back to any one of the following families. > > > >If we have a volunteer, remember first it has to be a male, with the > >Barlow surname, and your name can be completely anonymous, except to > >myself, as the administrator of the DNA project, and perhaps to the > >person donating the funds.(I have not asked their opinion of that) we > >would need to know your ancestral genealogy, for comparison with > >others currently online. > > > >1rst choice would be a male Barlow from either of these lines: > > > >http://www.barlowgenealogy.com/Families/MormonFamilies/Oswald.html > > > >http://www.barlowgenealogy.com/Families/MormonFamilies/Barlow-Hulme.htm >l > > > >However, I would look favorably on someone who wanted to test from one > >these family lines: > > > >Israel Barlow - earliest ancestor Francis Barlow of Turton, Lancashire > >b1512 > >Ebenezer Barlow - earliest ancestor Robert Barlow of St Leonards, > >Shoreditch, London b1808 > >William Francis Barlow - earliest ancestor George W. Barlow of Cairo, > >New York b1832 > > > >Please contact me at: sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net > > > >Susan > > > > > > > >Looking for Barlows, anywhere....anytime, including all variants and > >spellings of the name, Barlo, Barloe, Barlowe, Parlar, Barler, Barlar, > >Barlage, etc... > > > > > > > >==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== > >To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > > > >If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: > >barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > > > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of >course.) > > > > > >If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: > >BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > > > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of >course.) > > > > > >==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== >To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > >If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: >barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of >course.) > > >If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: >BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of >course.) > > >==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== >To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > >If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: >barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) > > >If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: >BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) >

    09/08/2005 10:37:00
    1. RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing
    2. Susan BARLOW Holmes
    3. The only suggestion I can make is to have your uncle do the 12 marker DNA test, then if it matches one of the groups already tested, you will know what direction to look in. That is precisely the reason we need a result in our database for every known major group. Once you do the 12 marker test, and find a family group to be in...you can upgrade the test to either 25 or 37, and it will give you a better idea how closely you are related, ie...whether you have a common ancestor in the last 100 years, or the past 1000 years. Once you know which family group you are in, then you could also find folks in the same family group to work with in researching your family. The problem right now is that we do not have a DNA score for George of Sandwich, Edmund of Malden, and Jonathan of Nova Scotia, so if you are one of those family groups, you still won't know anything..until someone comes along and tests, knowing they are from that family group. So why should someone take the expensive test when they already know the group they are in.......because, there just may be a match between say, John of Fairfield to George of Sandwich, who knows. Then we can begin to work on finding that relationship. And we can add other families not previously known to be a part of those families...such as my John, who comes from Mississippi. I would have never dreamed that he was of the John of Fairfield Ct bunch until DNA came along. A distant relationship for sure, and one that we may never find, but we also learned that we have a very close relationship to those in Georgia. For several years, I had determined that my family was from Isle of Wight Virginia, or from Robeson CO North Carolina, and spend hours of time trying to find connections, other than places of origin, and naming practices. Then DNA told me that we are absolutely no relation to them, thus making that time wasted, but will save hours in the future. Who knows, perhaps George of Sandwich and John of Fairfield were brothers, or first cousins...we won't ever know until we have all of the DNA scores in for all known major groups. We have 2 tests online right now who do not match any of our others, are they related to one of the major groups not already tested...or are there other lines out there we don't even know about. To date, I have found 7 major groups of Barlows. We may narrow that down to 3 or 4 if all families test. Of course, we all know that in the beginning, we were all related. But over the thousands of years, we have lost our kinfolk, they went one way while we went another. There is a link on the DNA ordering page to contribute funds for those who cannot afford to take the test. Anyone interested in donating funds to that, it would be most welcome. Once we have enough for a 12 marker test, we can find a volunteer from one of the major groups not tested, and perhaps with the funding, they would be willing to test. If you can even give $5 or $10, that would be a beginning. These funds are held within the Family Tree DNA database by the company, not by myself, and aren't going anywhere until I specify where it should be used. And of course, I would let the folks decide. Or you can even specify what group you would like the money to be used for when you contribute. Susan Looking for Barlows, anywhere....anytime, including all variants and spellings of the name, Barlo, Barloe, Barlowe, Parlar, Barler, Barlar, Barlage, etc... -----Original Message----- From: Judy Huff [mailto:judyhuff@starband.net] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:52 PM To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing What about those of us that have no clue what line we are from? I do have one uncle left to DNA test if I can get him to, but we do not know what line. Our line back is Lyman William Barlow 5-15-1893 Michigan to 8-31-1923 Michigan, George A Barlow 4-15-1867 Canada to 4-15-1927 Michigan, Possibly father is a William/Will George Barlow of Canada and Mother is Mary Ann Foster (Fortier)of Canada. I am stumped and do not seem to be able to unclog! Judy > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan BARLOW Holmes [mailto:sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net] > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:33 PM > To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing > > > For comparison sake. We have no DNA test results from those families. > We can't tell if John of Fairfield is related to those families, > etc..until we get a result. > > We need results from every known line to compare those who have no clue > what line they are in. We have a new result right now, no match to > anything we have currently in our database, so he still doesn't know > what line he is from. Should he be from Edmund of Malden, or one of the > groups that we have no results for, then he still doesn't know what line > he is from. Also. To see if any of our major lines are related, closer > than we know. For instance, a DNA result from another database suggests > that John of Fairfield is related to Edmund of Malden, but I have not > seen the results for myself yet to know if that is correct, or how close > the relationship is, whether it is an exact match, or 36 out of 37 > markers, or even perhaps only 34 out of 37, which is a great distance. > As you know, we are all related at some point or other. > > Are you sufficiently confused yet? > > Love, Susan > > > > Looking for Barlows, anywhere....anytime, including all variants and > spellings of the name, Barlo, Barloe, Barlowe, Parlar, Barler, Barlar, > Barlage, etc... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kimberly Granholm [mailto:kimberlyg1972@hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 10:41 AM > To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing > > Susan > > Very generous offer from annonymous! > > Question though? If the persons line has already been traced/proven > to > one of the families you listed, why test? I know that if i could > connect my > Nathaniel Barlow to ANY of the Barlow lines DNA testing wouldnt be > needed.........at the same time DNA testing takes some of the fun out of > it > ;) > > Not jelous, just curious! > > Kim > > > > > > > > From: "Susan BARLOW Holmes" <sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net> > Reply-To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BARLOW] DNA testing > Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 17:02:57 -0500 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([66.43.18.41]) by > mc3-f31.hotmail.com > with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 7 Sep 2005 15:06:43 -0700 > Received: (from slist@localhost)by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) > id > j87M384V026009;Wed, 7 Sep 2005 16:03:08 -0600 > >I have had a very generous offer from an anonymous donor willing to pay > >for a complete 37 marker DNA test for anyone that can has traced their > >genealogy back to any one of the following families. > > > >If we have a volunteer, remember first it has to be a male, with the > >Barlow surname, and your name can be completely anonymous, except to > >myself, as the administrator of the DNA project, and perhaps to the > >person donating the funds.(I have not asked their opinion of that) we > >would need to know your ancestral genealogy, for comparison with > >others currently online. > > > >1rst choice would be a male Barlow from either of these lines: > > > >http://www.barlowgenealogy.com/Families/MormonFamilies/Oswald.html > > > >http://www.barlowgenealogy.com/Families/MormonFamilies/Barlow-Hulme.htm > l > > > >However, I would look favorably on someone who wanted to test from one > >these family lines: > > > >Israel Barlow - earliest ancestor Francis Barlow of Turton, Lancashire > >b1512 > >Ebenezer Barlow - earliest ancestor Robert Barlow of St Leonards, > >Shoreditch, London b1808 > >William Francis Barlow - earliest ancestor George W. Barlow of Cairo, > >New York b1832 > > > >Please contact me at: sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net > > > >Susan > > > > > > > >Looking for Barlows, anywhere....anytime, including all variants and > >spellings of the name, Barlo, Barloe, Barlowe, Parlar, Barler, Barlar, > >Barlage, etc... > > > > > > > >==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== > >To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > > > >If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: > >barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > > > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of > course.) > > > > > >If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: > >BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > > > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of > course.) > > > > > > ==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > > If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: > barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of > course.) > > > If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: > BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of > course.) > > > ==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > > If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: > barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) > > > If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: > BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) > > > __________ NOD32 1.1211 (20050907) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > ==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) 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    09/08/2005 09:06:21
    1. RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing
    2. Judy Huff
    3. What about those of us that have no clue what line we are from? I do have one uncle left to DNA test if I can get him to, but we do not know what line. Our line back is Lyman William Barlow 5-15-1893 Michigan to 8-31-1923 Michigan, George A Barlow 4-15-1867 Canada to 4-15-1927 Michigan, Possibly father is a William/Will George Barlow of Canada and Mother is Mary Ann Foster (Fortier)of Canada. I am stumped and do not seem to be able to unclog! Judy > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan BARLOW Holmes [mailto:sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net] > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:33 PM > To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing > > > For comparison sake. We have no DNA test results from those families. > We can't tell if John of Fairfield is related to those families, > etc..until we get a result. > > We need results from every known line to compare those who have no clue > what line they are in. We have a new result right now, no match to > anything we have currently in our database, so he still doesn't know > what line he is from. Should he be from Edmund of Malden, or one of the > groups that we have no results for, then he still doesn't know what line > he is from. Also. To see if any of our major lines are related, closer > than we know. For instance, a DNA result from another database suggests > that John of Fairfield is related to Edmund of Malden, but I have not > seen the results for myself yet to know if that is correct, or how close > the relationship is, whether it is an exact match, or 36 out of 37 > markers, or even perhaps only 34 out of 37, which is a great distance. > As you know, we are all related at some point or other. > > Are you sufficiently confused yet? > > Love, Susan > > > > Looking for Barlows, anywhere....anytime, including all variants and > spellings of the name, Barlo, Barloe, Barlowe, Parlar, Barler, Barlar, > Barlage, etc... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kimberly Granholm [mailto:kimberlyg1972@hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 10:41 AM > To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing > > Susan > > Very generous offer from annonymous! > > Question though? If the persons line has already been traced/proven > to > one of the families you listed, why test? I know that if i could > connect my > Nathaniel Barlow to ANY of the Barlow lines DNA testing wouldnt be > needed.........at the same time DNA testing takes some of the fun out of > it > ;) > > Not jelous, just curious! > > Kim > > > > > > > > From: "Susan BARLOW Holmes" <sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net> > Reply-To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BARLOW] DNA testing > Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 17:02:57 -0500 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([66.43.18.41]) by > mc3-f31.hotmail.com > with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 7 Sep 2005 15:06:43 -0700 > Received: (from slist@localhost)by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) > id > j87M384V026009;Wed, 7 Sep 2005 16:03:08 -0600 > >I have had a very generous offer from an anonymous donor willing to pay > >for a complete 37 marker DNA test for anyone that can has traced their > >genealogy back to any one of the following families. > > > >If we have a volunteer, remember first it has to be a male, with the > >Barlow surname, and your name can be completely anonymous, except to > >myself, as the administrator of the DNA project, and perhaps to the > >person donating the funds.(I have not asked their opinion of that) we > >would need to know your ancestral genealogy, for comparison with > >others currently online. > > > >1rst choice would be a male Barlow from either of these lines: > > > >http://www.barlowgenealogy.com/Families/MormonFamilies/Oswald.html > > > >http://www.barlowgenealogy.com/Families/MormonFamilies/Barlow-Hulme.htm > l > > > >However, I would look favorably on someone who wanted to test from one > >these family lines: > > > >Israel Barlow - earliest ancestor Francis Barlow of Turton, Lancashire > >b1512 > >Ebenezer Barlow - earliest ancestor Robert Barlow of St Leonards, > >Shoreditch, London b1808 > >William Francis Barlow - earliest ancestor George W. Barlow of Cairo, > >New York b1832 > > > >Please contact me at: sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net > > > >Susan > > > > > > > >Looking for Barlows, anywhere....anytime, including all variants and > >spellings of the name, Barlo, Barloe, Barlowe, Parlar, Barler, Barlar, > >Barlage, etc... > > > > > > > >==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== > >To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > > > >If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: > >barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > > > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of > course.) > > > > > >If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: > >BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > > > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of > course.) > > > > > > ==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > > If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: > barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of > course.) > > > If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: > BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of > course.) > > > ==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > > If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: > barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) > > > If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: > BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > > Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) > > > __________ NOD32 1.1211 (20050907) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > >

    09/08/2005 07:52:08
    1. RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing
    2. Kimberly Granholm
    3. Susan Very generous offer from annonymous! Question though? If the persons line has already been traced/proven to one of the families you listed, why test? I know that if i could connect my Nathaniel Barlow to ANY of the Barlow lines DNA testing wouldnt be needed.........at the same time DNA testing takes some of the fun out of it ;) Not jelous, just curious! Kim From: "Susan BARLOW Holmes" <sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net> Reply-To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BARLOW] DNA testing Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 17:02:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([66.43.18.41]) by mc3-f31.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 7 Sep 2005 15:06:43 -0700 Received: (from slist@localhost)by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id j87M384V026009;Wed, 7 Sep 2005 16:03:08 -0600 >I have had a very generous offer from an anonymous donor willing to pay >for a complete 37 marker DNA test for anyone that can has traced their >genealogy back to any one of the following families. > >If we have a volunteer, remember first it has to be a male, with the >Barlow surname, and your name can be completely anonymous, except to >myself, as the administrator of the DNA project, and perhaps to the >person donating the funds.(I have not asked their opinion of that) we >would need to know your ancestral genealogy, for comparison with >others currently online. > >1rst choice would be a male Barlow from either of these lines: > >http://www.barlowgenealogy.com/Families/MormonFamilies/Oswald.html > >http://www.barlowgenealogy.com/Families/MormonFamilies/Barlow-Hulme.html > >However, I would look favorably on someone who wanted to test from one >these family lines: > >Israel Barlow - earliest ancestor Francis Barlow of Turton, Lancashire >b1512 >Ebenezer Barlow - earliest ancestor Robert Barlow of St Leonards, >Shoreditch, London b1808 >William Francis Barlow - earliest ancestor George W. Barlow of Cairo, >New York b1832 > >Please contact me at: sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net > >Susan > > > >Looking for Barlows, anywhere....anytime, including all variants and >spellings of the name, Barlo, Barloe, Barlowe, Parlar, Barler, Barlar, >Barlage, etc... > > > >==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== >To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > >If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: >barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) > > >If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: >BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) >

    09/08/2005 05:40:30
    1. RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing
    2. Susan BARLOW Holmes
    3. For comparison sake. We have no DNA test results from those families. We can't tell if John of Fairfield is related to those families, etc..until we get a result. We need results from every known line to compare those who have no clue what line they are in. We have a new result right now, no match to anything we have currently in our database, so he still doesn't know what line he is from. Should he be from Edmund of Malden, or one of the groups that we have no results for, then he still doesn't know what line he is from. Also. To see if any of our major lines are related, closer than we know. For instance, a DNA result from another database suggests that John of Fairfield is related to Edmund of Malden, but I have not seen the results for myself yet to know if that is correct, or how close the relationship is, whether it is an exact match, or 36 out of 37 markers, or even perhaps only 34 out of 37, which is a great distance. As you know, we are all related at some point or other. Are you sufficiently confused yet? Love, Susan Looking for Barlows, anywhere....anytime, including all variants and spellings of the name, Barlo, Barloe, Barlowe, Parlar, Barler, Barlar, Barlage, etc... -----Original Message----- From: Kimberly Granholm [mailto:kimberlyg1972@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 10:41 AM To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [BARLOW] DNA testing Susan Very generous offer from annonymous! Question though? If the persons line has already been traced/proven to one of the families you listed, why test? I know that if i could connect my Nathaniel Barlow to ANY of the Barlow lines DNA testing wouldnt be needed.........at the same time DNA testing takes some of the fun out of it ;) Not jelous, just curious! Kim From: "Susan BARLOW Holmes" <sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net> Reply-To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com To: BARLOW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BARLOW] DNA testing Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 17:02:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([66.43.18.41]) by mc3-f31.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 7 Sep 2005 15:06:43 -0700 Received: (from slist@localhost)by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id j87M384V026009;Wed, 7 Sep 2005 16:03:08 -0600 >I have had a very generous offer from an anonymous donor willing to pay >for a complete 37 marker DNA test for anyone that can has traced their >genealogy back to any one of the following families. > >If we have a volunteer, remember first it has to be a male, with the >Barlow surname, and your name can be completely anonymous, except to >myself, as the administrator of the DNA project, and perhaps to the >person donating the funds.(I have not asked their opinion of that) we >would need to know your ancestral genealogy, for comparison with >others currently online. > >1rst choice would be a male Barlow from either of these lines: > >http://www.barlowgenealogy.com/Families/MormonFamilies/Oswald.html > >http://www.barlowgenealogy.com/Families/MormonFamilies/Barlow-Hulme.htm l > >However, I would look favorably on someone who wanted to test from one >these family lines: > >Israel Barlow - earliest ancestor Francis Barlow of Turton, Lancashire >b1512 >Ebenezer Barlow - earliest ancestor Robert Barlow of St Leonards, >Shoreditch, London b1808 >William Francis Barlow - earliest ancestor George W. Barlow of Cairo, >New York b1832 > >Please contact me at: sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net > >Susan > > > >Looking for Barlows, anywhere....anytime, including all variants and >spellings of the name, Barlo, Barloe, Barlowe, Parlar, Barler, Barlar, >Barlage, etc... > > > >==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== >To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: > >If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: >barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) > > >If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: >BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com > >Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) > ==== BARLOW Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE from the BARLOW Mailing List: If subscribed to BARLOW-L, send an email to: barlow-l-request@rootsweb.com Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.) If subscribed to BARLOW-D, send an email to: BARLOW-d-request@rootsweb.com Type "unsubscribe" in the Subject line. (Without the quotes, of course.)

    09/08/2005 05:32:34
    1. DNA testing
    2. Susan BARLOW Holmes
    3. I have had a very generous offer from an anonymous donor willing to pay for a complete 37 marker DNA test for anyone that can has traced their genealogy back to any one of the following families. If we have a volunteer, remember first it has to be a male, with the Barlow surname, and your name can be completely anonymous, except to myself, as the administrator of the DNA project, and perhaps to the person donating the funds.(I have not asked their opinion of that) we would need to know your ancestral genealogy, for comparison with others currently online. 1rst choice would be a male Barlow from either of these lines: http://www.barlowgenealogy.com/Families/MormonFamilies/Oswald.html http://www.barlowgenealogy.com/Families/MormonFamilies/Barlow-Hulme.html However, I would look favorably on someone who wanted to test from one these family lines: Israel Barlow - earliest ancestor Francis Barlow of Turton, Lancashire b1512 Ebenezer Barlow - earliest ancestor Robert Barlow of St Leonards, Shoreditch, London b1808 William Francis Barlow - earliest ancestor George W. Barlow of Cairo, New York b1832 Please contact me at: sbarlowholmes@classicnet.net Susan Looking for Barlows, anywhere....anytime, including all variants and spellings of the name, Barlo, Barloe, Barlowe, Parlar, Barler, Barlar, Barlage, etc...

    09/07/2005 11:02:57