Excuse me, it has been a bad week. In the second paragraph of my last post I meant to say, "There was no such thing as a princess in the Cherokee Tribe." Susan Terrell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Terrell" <sterrell@peakonline.com> To: <BARKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 2:01 PM Subject: [BARKER] CHEROKEE INDIAN > Don't go to ancestry.com until you have to, use you search engine, there are several Cherokee Indian lists found at the same place you found this one at, use your search engine and type in Cherokee Indian Genealogy. > The statement about the Cherokee Indian Princess is correct. There was no such thing as a prices in the Cherokee Tribe but a lot of people have that same story so much so that the Cherokee of North Carolina and Oklahoma both have information about the Cherokee Indian Princess stories on there web site. So, do not be embarassed about that. I suggest the Cherokee list first. There are lots of helpful people on those list. > > I am Cherokee descendant on 3 different lines, never able to prove any of it YET, I am also a descendant of James T. Barker of Henry County Missouri, and Colin County Texas. As far as I know my James T. Barker was not of Cherokee decent. He was born in Delaware.. > > Susan Terrell > > > ==== BARKER Mailing List ==== > Visit GENEALOGY RESOURCES ON THE INTERNET to find other surname lists > http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/internet.html >

Susan proof is not what counts these days... its what you feel in your heart. The dumb thing about having to prove you are Indian is you don't have to prove you are English or Irish. I have a friend who tells people these days that she is part Irish but she is Cherokee. I have a genealogy link from my website for those struggling with their Indian ancestry... the links from my genealogy page are for the five civilized tribes mainly but the hints for searching for your kinfolk is there. I hope this will help someone. Leslie Barker Thomas http://www.geocities.com/wakaakta/Wakaditka_Homeplace.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Terrell To: BARKER-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 5:01 PM Subject: [BARKER] CHEROKEE INDIAN Don't go to ancestry.com until you have to, use you search engine, there are several Cherokee Indian lists found at the same place you found this one at, use your search engine and type in Cherokee Indian Genealogy. The statement about the Cherokee Indian Princess is correct. There was no such thing as a prices in the Cherokee Tribe but a lot of people have that same story so much so that the Cherokee of North Carolina and Oklahoma both have information about the Cherokee Indian Princess stories on there web site. So, do not be embarassed about that. I suggest the Cherokee list first. There are lots of helpful people on those list. I am Cherokee descendant on 3 different lines, never able to prove any of it YET, I am also a descendant of James T. Barker of Henry County Missouri, and Colin County Texas. As far as I know my James T. Barker was not of Cherokee decent. He was born in Delaware.. Susan Terrell ==== BARKER Mailing List ==== Visit GENEALOGY RESOURCES ON THE INTERNET to find other surname lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/internet.html

Don't go to ancestry.com until you have to, use you search engine, there are several Cherokee Indian lists found at the same place you found this one at, use your search engine and type in Cherokee Indian Genealogy. The statement about the Cherokee Indian Princess is correct. There was no such thing as a prices in the Cherokee Tribe but a lot of people have that same story so much so that the Cherokee of North Carolina and Oklahoma both have information about the Cherokee Indian Princess stories on there web site. So, do not be embarassed about that. I suggest the Cherokee list first. There are lots of helpful people on those list. I am Cherokee descendant on 3 different lines, never able to prove any of it YET, I am also a descendant of James T. Barker of Henry County Missouri, and Colin County Texas. As far as I know my James T. Barker was not of Cherokee decent. He was born in Delaware.. Susan Terrell

Greetings, Want to share this information I found this summer, hope it will be of help to this discussion. Carolyn Wilson Dyer Geogretown, Kentucky Grandma? She probably wasn't Indian princess By DONNA MURRAY ALLEN © St. Petersburg Times published August 15, 2002 CHEROKEE, N.C. -- So you think your great-grandmother was a Cherokee Indian princess? Think again. Daughters of Cherokee chiefs had no such designation. But that doesn't stop many persistent people from spending futile hours trying to prove their lineage to American Indian royalty. Just like many researchers who employ the "jump back" method and pluck any plausible immigrant off a passenger ship and claim him as their own, some folks troll through tribal rolls seeking a matching name. Documenting American Indian heritage is probably the most difficult feat in genealogy, for many reasons. The federal government never maintained a list of all people of Indian descent that showed the name of the tribe or the degree of Indian bloodlines. Before the late 1800s, many American Indians did not use Anglo names. Some used their Indian names in one place and their Anglo names in another. The two names usually bore no similarity. English terms such as "brother" do not mean the same thing in American Indian culture. Anyone belonging to the same clan is considered immediate family. During the late 1800s, many people of American Indian heritage not living on a reservation who could pass for white did so. Discrimination was rampant. Many full-blooded Indians did not live on a reservation and did not register their children with a tribe. Not all Indians chose to marry in civil ceremonies. If none of your ancestors maintained affiliation with a tribe, it is almost impossible to connect the genealogical dots. Conversely, you might find what you need in the 1900 federal census, which included a population schedule for American Indians living on reservations, in family groups outside reservations and those who elected to self-identify. Questions about tribal affiliation and blood quantum were also asked. More people claim to be Cherokee than any other recognized tribe, and they may be right. The Trail of Tears split the Cherokee Nation in 1838. Survivors who made it to Oklahoma officially became known as members of the Cherokee Tribe of Oklahoma. Those who remained behind in defiance of the federal government's removal policy eventually became known as the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians. Members of both bands intermarried more often with whites than they did with members of other tribes. Today, people of Cherokee ancestry fall into one of three groups: (1) everyone listed on the final rolls of the Cherokee Tribe of Oklahoma that were approved and closed in 1907 and their heirs; (2) anyone enrolled or eligible to be enrolled with the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians of North Carolina; and (3) others with Cherokee ancestry. No official record exists listing who made the trek to Oklahoma and who remained behind. In his book, Exploring Your Cherokee Ancestry, Thomas Mooney cautions researchers: "Genealogists tend to forget that tribal rolls were not created for their benefit. These records are normally intended only to document some payment or other transaction between the government and the tribe. Each roll has its limitations and only so much information may be gleaned from any one source. Most rolls only cover a limited geographic area or deal with only a certain portion of the tribe. Considerable frustration may be avoided by learning how much information may be reasonably expected from each source." Note: Some information from the Bureau of Indian Affairs and the Cherokee Tribal Office was used in this column. Next week: Techniques for tracing Indian heritage. -- Donna Murray Allen welcomes your questions about genealogy and will respond to those of general interest in future columns. Sorry, she can't take phone calls, but you can write to her c/o Floridian, St. Petersburg Times, P.O. Box 1121, St. Petersburg, FL 33731, or e-mail her at rootscolumn@yahoo.com. You can read her column online at www.sptimes.com. Type Donna Murray Allen in the search box. Waka or Rod wrote: > Well I guess its time to post this message outright since I am of Cherokee > descendancy. > Don't say anything about an Indian Princess to any Full blood Cherokees or > they will laugh at you and walk away. There is no Princess in the Cherokee > Nation. Never was and never was in any other tribal affiliations Perhaps this > was the intruder's sarcastic method of saying she was the daughter of a Chief > which is also a misnomer since there really wasn't such a title before the > intruders arrived. The Cherokee political system was purely matriarchal. > There was a male governor of each township in the Cherokee Nation and several > officials under him. But the women had the last say on everything. Men felt > that the women had superiority because they gave birth to them. That system > disappeared once the intruders took hold somewhere along in the late 1500's > early 1600's. Saying that your ancestor was a Cherokee Princess is demeaning > to most Cherokee. Just want you to be aware of this. Leslie Barker Thomas > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: pam prine > To: BARKER-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 7:46 AM > Subject: Re: [BARKER] Indian Princesses ? > > Thank you Jeannie for sharing your story. This is an interesting theory on > Indian Princesses. > Pam > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeannie Travis" <askgranny@juno.com> > To: <BARKER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 11:30 PM > Subject: [BARKER] Indian Princesses ? > > > > > My family has an Indian Princess in it , also...It seems that all the > > brides were princesses...My Grandfather, way back , fell in love with his > > Princess when the Trail of Tears journey was in progress ...He followed > > her to Oklahoma and brought her back with him...They had to swim a big > > river and he made bundle of his clothes and a certain number of gold > > pieces, and they crossed the big river...That is the extent of our > > knowledge on it, and none of us can remember who told it to us! I DO > > remember Mama saying he was the first white man in Henry County , > > TN....Didn't register his deed so lost the farm he had built up......His > > last name was Bunton, and my Grandfather Robert Franklin Buntin married > > Cora Berline Barker, daughter of " Babe " Barker, from Decatur > > County...past that I don't know...There was a $20 gold piece in the > > family when Mother was growing up, and I have wondered if this was the > > last one left from those long ago days...It was given to my Aunt and she > > sold it in Chicago.... > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 19:11:00 EDT DEANNAAZ@aol.com writes: > > > Pam: I hate to burst your bubble, but there is no such thing as an > > > "Indian > > > Princess". She could have been the daughter of a Chief, but they > > > were just > > > that, not a Princess. > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > > > > > ==== BARKER Mailing List ==== > > Visit GENEALOGY RESOURCES ON THE INTERNET to find other surname lists > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/internet.html > > > > > > > > ==== BARKER Mailing List ==== > How long has it been since you posted your line or a query to the list? > Surname Helper Search http://cgi.rootsweb.com/surhelp/srchall.html > > ==== BARKER Mailing List ==== > The RootsWeb Barker Mailing Lists Members Home Page is > http://www.rootsweb.com/~scwhite/barker/

I think the same problem occurs when people start taking about "The Indian Rolls". They think that there is one massive collection of all the Native American people, complete with ancestory! Of course they have probably heard of the Dawes roll but don't realize that that is just a small drop in the bucket. Hope everyone is having a great weekend. It is we are having a wonderfull little rainy day today. Nice and cozy. Martha Austin Texas

Well I guess its time to post this message outright since I am of Cherokee descendancy. Don't say anything about an Indian Princess to any Full blood Cherokees or they will laugh at you and walk away. There is no Princess in the Cherokee Nation. Never was and never was in any other tribal affiliations Perhaps this was the intruder's sarcastic method of saying she was the daughter of a Chief which is also a misnomer since there really wasn't such a title before the intruders arrived. The Cherokee political system was purely matriarchal. There was a male governor of each township in the Cherokee Nation and several officials under him. But the women had the last say on everything. Men felt that the women had superiority because they gave birth to them. That system disappeared once the intruders took hold somewhere along in the late 1500's early 1600's. Saying that your ancestor was a Cherokee Princess is demeaning to most Cherokee. Just want you to be aware of this. Leslie Barker Thomas ----- Original Message ----- From: pam prine To: BARKER-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [BARKER] Indian Princesses ? Thank you Jeannie for sharing your story. This is an interesting theory on Indian Princesses. Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeannie Travis" <askgranny@juno.com> To: <BARKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 11:30 PM Subject: [BARKER] Indian Princesses ? > > My family has an Indian Princess in it , also...It seems that all the > brides were princesses...My Grandfather, way back , fell in love with his > Princess when the Trail of Tears journey was in progress ...He followed > her to Oklahoma and brought her back with him...They had to swim a big > river and he made bundle of his clothes and a certain number of gold > pieces, and they crossed the big river...That is the extent of our > knowledge on it, and none of us can remember who told it to us! I DO > remember Mama saying he was the first white man in Henry County , > TN....Didn't register his deed so lost the farm he had built up......His > last name was Bunton, and my Grandfather Robert Franklin Buntin married > Cora Berline Barker, daughter of " Babe " Barker, from Decatur > County...past that I don't know...There was a $20 gold piece in the > family when Mother was growing up, and I have wondered if this was the > last one left from those long ago days...It was given to my Aunt and she > sold it in Chicago.... > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 19:11:00 EDT DEANNAAZ@aol.com writes: > > Pam: I hate to burst your bubble, but there is no such thing as an > > "Indian > > Princess". She could have been the daughter of a Chief, but they > > were just > > that, not a Princess. > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > > ==== BARKER Mailing List ==== > Visit GENEALOGY RESOURCES ON THE INTERNET to find other surname lists > http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/internet.html > > > ==== BARKER Mailing List ==== How long has it been since you posted your line or a query to the list? Surname Helper Search http://cgi.rootsweb.com/surhelp/srchall.html

Thank you Jeannie for sharing your story. This is an interesting theory on Indian Princesses. Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeannie Travis" <askgranny@juno.com> To: <BARKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 11:30 PM Subject: [BARKER] Indian Princesses ? > > My family has an Indian Princess in it , also...It seems that all the > brides were princesses...My Grandfather, way back , fell in love with his > Princess when the Trail of Tears journey was in progress ...He followed > her to Oklahoma and brought her back with him...They had to swim a big > river and he made bundle of his clothes and a certain number of gold > pieces, and they crossed the big river...That is the extent of our > knowledge on it, and none of us can remember who told it to us! I DO > remember Mama saying he was the first white man in Henry County , > TN....Didn't register his deed so lost the farm he had built up......His > last name was Bunton, and my Grandfather Robert Franklin Buntin married > Cora Berline Barker, daughter of " Babe " Barker, from Decatur > County...past that I don't know...There was a $20 gold piece in the > family when Mother was growing up, and I have wondered if this was the > last one left from those long ago days...It was given to my Aunt and she > sold it in Chicago.... > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 19:11:00 EDT DEANNAAZ@aol.com writes: > > Pam: I hate to burst your bubble, but there is no such thing as an > > "Indian > > Princess". She could have been the daughter of a Chief, but they > > were just > > that, not a Princess. > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > > ==== BARKER Mailing List ==== > Visit GENEALOGY RESOURCES ON THE INTERNET to find other surname lists > http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/internet.html > > >

My family has an Indian Princess in it , also...It seems that all the brides were princesses...My Grandfather, way back , fell in love with his Princess when the Trail of Tears journey was in progress ...He followed her to Oklahoma and brought her back with him...They had to swim a big river and he made bundle of his clothes and a certain number of gold pieces, and they crossed the big river...That is the extent of our knowledge on it, and none of us can remember who told it to us! I DO remember Mama saying he was the first white man in Henry County , TN....Didn't register his deed so lost the farm he had built up......His last name was Bunton, and my Grandfather Robert Franklin Buntin married Cora Berline Barker, daughter of " Babe " Barker, from Decatur County...past that I don't know...There was a $20 gold piece in the family when Mother was growing up, and I have wondered if this was the last one left from those long ago days...It was given to my Aunt and she sold it in Chicago.... >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 19:11:00 EDT DEANNAAZ@aol.com writes: > Pam: I hate to burst your bubble, but there is no such thing as an > "Indian > Princess". She could have been the daughter of a Chief, but they > were just > that, not a Princess. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

Pam: I hate to burst your bubble, but there is no such thing as an "Indian Princess". She could have been the daughter of a Chief, but they were just that, not a Princess. I know how "family stories" go, as there are a lot in my family, but you need to do further research Since the Barker name came primarily from England, it is possible that your Barker married a Cherokee maiden, but it is her maiden name (possibly Indian name) that you need to find. What year are you talking about and what area? Do you have her husband's name? Children's names? I discovered that my Indian heritage came from a mixed Cherokee/white marriage also and it is very confusing to research. The family stories left out a whole generation! And the "Chief" that was on my side, was a white man that lived with the Cherokees and married an Indian woman and was known as "Chief Buck", but in fact was not an Indian chief as I had always heard. Deanna

Page 164 Gilmer Co., GA. 1834 census is he was born in 1823 he'd only be 11 here... don't think its him... this one is married. However birthdates have been known to be wrong... this one is married but no children. He could be a teen? ----- Original Message ----- From: JPhill0636@aol.com To: BARKER-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [BARKER] Whites Among the Cherokees I would like any informtion you might have on George W. Barker. I have been looking for him for several years, so I hope the one you mentioned will turn out to be the one I have been looking for. I know he was in Georgia, and I think he was born in 1823, or close to that year. I had seen a book in a LA. library about a George Washington Barker who was the only white person on the Indian Reservation, but didn't look at it closely enough. I sure hope they are the same George W. Barker. I know that he was married in Randolph Co., Ga. around 1842. I do not know who his parents were nor his siblings. Thanks for any information you might have. Johnine ==== BARKER Mailing List ==== BARKER Mailing List Archives Search http://www.rootsweb.com/~scwhite/barker/mailsrch.html The Searchable Rootsweb Mailing List Archives http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

I would like any informtion you might have on George W. Barker. I have been looking for him for several years, so I hope the one you mentioned will turn out to be the one I have been looking for. I know he was in Georgia, and I think he was born in 1823, or close to that year. I had seen a book in a LA. library about a George Washington Barker who was the only white person on the Indian Reservation, but didn't look at it closely enough. I sure hope they are the same George W. Barker. I know that he was married in Randolph Co., Ga. around 1842. I do not know who his parents were nor his siblings. Thanks for any information you might have. Johnine

Only women who actually owned property we listed for this time period. If she was married she wouldn't be listed, her husband would be. There is no Elizabeth Barker listed. ----- Original Message ----- From: pam prine To: BARKER-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [BARKER] Whites Among the Cherokees Could you look up Elizabeth Barker? We don't have a lot of information, but there is a family legend that we have an Indian Princess as an ancestor. Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Waka or Rod" <aeriehollow@ellijay.com> To: <BARKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:07 AM Subject: [BARKER] Whites Among the Cherokees > Listed in this book are a few of the BARKER lines in the South. This book > covers the time frame of 1827-1838 in Northern Georgia, covering the counties > from Cobb and Paulding North. The names listed for BARKER are : > Barney > George W. > Hubbard > Isam > John > Lewis > Reufus > > My Barkers are from New York migrating west to Illinois. But because I have > this book I will look for these names is they connect with someone on this > list and tell you what is there... Leslie Thomas > All emails from this address are certified Virus Free by Norton's Virus > Scanner... > > CHEROKEE INDIAN PRAYER > O Great Spirit, Help me always to > speak the truth quietly, to listen with > an open mind when others speak, > and to remember the peace > that may be found in silence. > > http://www.geocities.com/wakaakta/Wakaditka_Homeplace.html > > > ==== BARKER Mailing List ==== > The RootsWeb Barker Mailing Lists Members Home Page is > http://www.rootsweb.com/~scwhite/barker/ > > > ==== BARKER Mailing List ==== Visit GENEALOGY RESOURCES ON THE INTERNET to find other surname lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/internet.html

I appreciate your trying. Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Waka or Rod" <aeriehollow@ellijay.com> To: <BARKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [BARKER] Whites Among the Cherokees > Only women who actually owned property we listed for this time period. If she > was married she wouldn't be listed, her husband would be. There is no > Elizabeth Barker listed. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: pam prine > To: BARKER-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:28 PM > Subject: Re: [BARKER] Whites Among the Cherokees > > > Could you look up Elizabeth Barker? We don't have a lot of information, but > there is a family legend that we have an Indian Princess as an ancestor. > Pam > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Waka or Rod" <aeriehollow@ellijay.com> > To: <BARKER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:07 AM > Subject: [BARKER] Whites Among the Cherokees > > > > Listed in this book are a few of the BARKER lines in the South. This book > > covers the time frame of 1827-1838 in Northern Georgia, covering the > counties > > from Cobb and Paulding North. The names listed for BARKER are : > > Barney > > George W. > > Hubbard > > Isam > > John > > Lewis > > Reufus > > > > My Barkers are from New York migrating west to Illinois. But because I > have > > this book I will look for these names is they connect with someone on this > > list and tell you what is there... Leslie Thomas > > All emails from this address are certified Virus Free by Norton's Virus > > Scanner... > > > > CHEROKEE INDIAN PRAYER > > O Great Spirit, Help me always to > > speak the truth quietly, to listen with > > an open mind when others speak, > > and to remember the peace > > that may be found in silence. > > > > http://www.geocities.com/wakaakta/Wakaditka_Homeplace.html > > > > > > ==== BARKER Mailing List ==== > > The RootsWeb Barker Mailing Lists Members Home Page is > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~scwhite/barker/ > > > > > > > > > > ==== BARKER Mailing List ==== > Visit GENEALOGY RESOURCES ON THE INTERNET to find other surname lists > http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/internet.html > > > > ==== BARKER Mailing List ==== > List problems? Contact the BARKER list manager <pieroth@ix.netcom.com> > Search the BARKER Mailing List Archives http://www.rootsweb.com/~scwhite/barker/mailsrch.html > > >

Could you look up Elizabeth Barker? We don't have a lot of information, but there is a family legend that we have an Indian Princess as an ancestor. Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Waka or Rod" <aeriehollow@ellijay.com> To: <BARKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:07 AM Subject: [BARKER] Whites Among the Cherokees > Listed in this book are a few of the BARKER lines in the South. This book > covers the time frame of 1827-1838 in Northern Georgia, covering the counties > from Cobb and Paulding North. The names listed for BARKER are : > Barney > George W. > Hubbard > Isam > John > Lewis > Reufus > > My Barkers are from New York migrating west to Illinois. But because I have > this book I will look for these names is they connect with someone on this > list and tell you what is there... Leslie Thomas > All emails from this address are certified Virus Free by Norton's Virus > Scanner... > > CHEROKEE INDIAN PRAYER > O Great Spirit, Help me always to > speak the truth quietly, to listen with > an open mind when others speak, > and to remember the peace > that may be found in silence. > > http://www.geocities.com/wakaakta/Wakaditka_Homeplace.html > > > ==== BARKER Mailing List ==== > The RootsWeb Barker Mailing Lists Members Home Page is > http://www.rootsweb.com/~scwhite/barker/ > > >

Listed in this book are a few of the BARKER lines in the South. This book covers the time frame of 1827-1838 in Northern Georgia, covering the counties from Cobb and Paulding North. The names listed for BARKER are : Barney George W. Hubbard Isam John Lewis Reufus My Barkers are from New York migrating west to Illinois. But because I have this book I will look for these names is they connect with someone on this list and tell you what is there... Leslie Thomas All emails from this address are certified Virus Free by Norton's Virus Scanner... CHEROKEE INDIAN PRAYER O Great Spirit, Help me always to speak the truth quietly, to listen with an open mind when others speak, and to remember the peace that may be found in silence. http://www.geocities.com/wakaakta/Wakaditka_Homeplace.html

I hope someone may find this useful. I also hope someone will contact me if a name rings a bell as my granmother had these for a reason and I have not yet been able to make them connect to my tree. The announcement follows: Middletown - Elaborate Wedding of Mr. Robert Patterson, Jr., and Miss Ethel May Barker (Regular correspondence of the News) The wedding of Miss Ethel May, oldest daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Ashton Curtis Barker, and Mr. Robert Patterson, Jr., son of Mr. and Mrs. Robert Patterson of Newport, took place last evening at the home of the bride on Turner avenue. In preparation for the event a large tent joining the house had been erected on the front lawn and furnished, decorated, lighted and heated for the occasion. The floor was entirely covered with Oriental rugs from John H. Kazanjian & Co., Newport, as were also the immense Japanese lanterns, the number and size of which brilliantly lighted the great room. On either side of the place where the ceremony was to take place were two large pillars reaching to the roof wreathed with green foliage, interspersed with great clusters of red and white dahlias, salvia and yellow and white chrysanthemums. On the piazza, up the steps and outlinging the path of the bridal party were many tall palms and rubber plants, making a green border of fine effec! t. The house was brightly lighted and each room decorated with flowers. Viewed from the piazza, the scene was a charming one, the beautiful gowns worn, adding much special to the occasion, the whole looking like a beautiful flower garden. Mr. Roy Grinnell gave a piano recital before the ceremony and played the wedding marches. The ceremony was performed by Rev. H. H. Critchlow of the Methodist Episcopal Church, who led the bridal procession, followed the ushers, Messrs. John Nicholson of Middletown and Mr. Randolph R. Barker of Newport. Mr. Karl M. Stone was best man. The maid of honor, Miss Maria Smith, of Attleboro, wore a light blue satin gown, covered with cream net and carried a large bouquet of white chrysanthemums. The bridesmaids, Miss Elsie Barker, sister of the bride, and Miss Lulu Barker, a cousin, wore pink costume chiffon and carried white pinks. The bride looked lovely in a costume of imported raw China silk over taffeta, her long illusion veil being fa! stened with lilies of the valley and her shower bouquet being of bride roses, her only ornament a double string of coral beads of ancient heritage. There were about 125 present and the ushers were busy for a long time presenting the large number of guests to the newly wedded couple. While they were receiving, the dining room was thronged to look at the large collection of costly presents, embracing nearly everything usually given on such occasions. There was $150 in moey, largely in $10 gold pieces, with the assurance of $100 more. The gift of Mr. and Mrs. Karl Stone was a number of pieces of wrought linen for luncheon sideboard and similar uses. Ice cream and cake and fruit punch were served. During this time Mr. Stone sang, Mr. Leroy Grinnell pianist, "Once Again", Arthur S. Sullivan, "Dearie", Clara Kummer, "Lover's (?)", H. R. Shelley, and "The Heart of a Sailor", Adams. The bride's going away gown was of the new mixed goods, her hat a dark red. They had to run t! he usual ordeal of confetti and found their carriage completely covered with white cloth and other ornaments. They left town for a short wedding trip and on their return will make their home for the present with Mr. Patterson's parents. (14 November, 1906 - newspaper presumably Newport, RI.) Kenn Brooks wartec@advnet.net

I hope this information may help someone. I would like to hear from anyone if a name rings a bell. The announcement follows: Stone - Barker in Middletown The grounds and residence of Mr. and Mrs. Ashton C. Barker, Middletown, were brilliantly illuminated Tuesday evening, in honor of the marriage of their daughter, Ruth Maria, to Mr. Carl Martin Stoneof Newport. At the entrance gate was a large arch of green, and long lines of Chinese lanterns outlined the carriage drive, and the interior of the tent, 25x30, was well supplied with them and numerous tall wax candles, throwing a soft light over the scene. The floor of the tent, which was a continuation of the piazza, was covered with oriental rugs and furnished with couches and chairs. The piazza was banked with palms and potted plants and adorned with Chinese lanterns. Two columns reaching to the roof of white clematis, green vines and white dahlias, joined by strands of nasturtium vines, made a pretty picture. All the rooms were decorated with flowers, with different color schemes in each, the north parlor mantel being massed with pin! k dahlias, the south parlor with white dahlias and pinkcosmos, the dining room with red dahlias, from the centre of which was suspended a floral bell of red and white dahlias. At the appointed hour, 6:30 o'clock, to the music of the Lohengrin Wedding March, played by Miss Marion Dowling, organist of Emmanuel Church, Newport, and proceded by Rev. Emery H. Porter, D. D., the ushers, Dr. W. J. Speers and Dr. H. H. Luther, led the way down the stairs and piazza, followed by the maids of honor, Miss Louise H. Smith of Newport, who wore pink crepe de chine, and Miss Elsie P. Barker, sister of the bride, gowned in blue crepe de chine, each carrying bouquets of white pinks; next came the best man, Mr. Robert Patterson, with the bridesmaid, Miss Ethel M. Barker, sister of the bride, whose dress was light grey crepe de chine and her bouquet white pinks. Then appeared the bride and groom, who took their places athe the further end of the tent, and were united in.....(section trimmed out here).....fore receiving congratulations, Mr. Augustus Swan, with Miss Dowling as accompanist, sang "Dedication", by Schumann. While the 200 guests were being prese! nted to Mr. and Mrs. Stone, Miss Dowling played "Mendelssohn's March" from "Midsummer NIght's Dream". At the conclusion of the March the Newport Mandolin Club played for the rest of the evening. The bride was prettily gowned in white China silk over taffeta, with trimmings of applique chiffon. Her veil was of tulle and her bouquet of Bride roses. The presents, which were shown in the dining room, were numerous and costly, among them being a parlor set, $60 in money, clock, candelbra, pictures, cut glass, silver tea set, lamps, rugs, a great variety of silver ware, linen, drawn work and lace curtains. The choir of the Central Baptist Church and Mr. Stone's musical associates sent gifts. Cake, cream and fruit punch were served, and about 8 o'clock the bridal party entered a carriage to start on their wedding trip. A large number accompanied them to their point of departure, the rest of the company taking electric cars, automobiles and other modes of transportation. They will occupy their new house on Gardiner street, Newport, and be at home after December 1. (10 October 1905 - newspaper presumably Newport, RI.) Kenn Brooks wartec@advnet.net

I hope this informantion will help someone. I would like to hear from anyone if a name rings a bell. The announcement follows: SMITH - BARKER A pretty home wedding occurred last evening at eh winter residence of Mr. and Mrs. Lyman H. Barker of Middletown, on Gardner street in this city, when their eldest daughter, Miss Della Barker, was united in marriage to Mr. Robert E. Smith, only son of Mr. and Mrs. Millard F. Smith of Paradise avenue, Middletown. The ceremony was performed by Rev. A. W. Kingsley of the Methodist Episcopal Church, Middletown. The bride and groom were attended by the ushers, Mr. J. William Brown and Mr. Walter Barker, the brid elooking charming in a gown of pale green voile, trimmed with white chiffon, ? en traine. She carried a large bouquet of bride roses tied with white satin ribbon.....(section trimmed out here).....guests present. The presents were handsome and included large gifts in money. The Bridal March from "Lohengrin" was played by Miss Sadie E. Peckham and Miss Sadie I. Peckham gave several selections on the piano after the reception which followed the c! eremony. Refreshments were served. Much merriment was caused by the bride's tossing down her bouquet as she ascended the stairs, and by the heavy showering of confetti as she and her husband entered their carriage. A large delegation escorted them to the New York boat, where they were given a rousing "send-off" by their friends. Upon their return they will reside on Paradise avenue. Among the guests were the choir of the Middletown Methodist Church, of which body Mrs. Smith has been an active member for many years. (Nov 18, 1903 - newspaper presumably Newport, RI.) Kenn Brooks wartec@advnet.net

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Hi, I hope one of you Barkers out there can help me. I received a message from Jeff McCormick from Genforum and I can't reply. I used Genforum a lot in the past but now they need a password. To get one I am required to give my name, address and phone#, I don't care to give out this info on the internet. Jeff, I'm hoping that you might be on this list. If so I'd love to hear from you. In fact I'd love to hear from anyone who has info on this family. Thanks, Carolyn Davis Whitmire The following is what I have on the Barkers; Descendants of Andrew Nelson Barker Generation No. 1 1. Andrew Nelson Barker was born 1850, and died 1915. He married Martha Jane. She was born 1855. Children of Andrew Barker and Martha are: 2 i. Jake W Barker. 3 ii. Miles Levi Barker. 4 iii. Glen Barker. 5 iv. Florence Barker. 6 v. Lotsa May Barker. + 7 vi. John W. Barker, born February 03, 1875 in IN. 8 vii. Frank Barker. 9 viii. Fred Barker. Generation No. 2 7. John W.2 Barker (Andrew Nelson1) was born February 03, 1875 in IN. He married Lucy Ellen Davis January 01, 1896 in Harrisonville, KA, daughter of Charles Lewis Davis and Mary Ann Debo. She was born April 16, 1874 in Independence, Montgomery Co., KA, and died October 17, 1908 in Independence, Montgomery Co., KA. More About Lucy Ellen Davis: Cause of Death: TB Children of John Barker and Lucy Davis are: 10 i. Charles Wilber Barker. 11 ii. Harold Earl Barker. <Hi Carolyn, <<I think the John W. Barker you speak of is my gg grandfather on my mother's side. Every year we have a Barker family reunion, held by different families in different parts of the country. If I am correct, the John W. (1875-1936) you speak of was father of Charles W. Barker (born 1896), who started the reunions in 1963. The only discrepancy I have is John's wife's name in our record is Lucy Elizabeth Davis (1874-1908), not Lucy Ellen Davis, but someone may have just "guessed" at the "E". I realize you were looking for info, but it looks like you may have more than I, as our tree stops above John W. Barker and Lucy E. Davis. So, any info you have would be helpful. I do have all of the tree below Charles and Harold though, and John W. did not re-marry. I would be interested in conspiring with you to find out if the John W. we speak of is the same. Jeff McCormick>>>