Janet, I don' t think I have much or anything on this that you don't already have. I use a PML search that sends me messages etc when someone posts anything on rootsweb or any of its lists, if that post meets my definition. If you would like to write up what you know about this family and the questions to be answered I will design a PML search to watch for any clues. Sorry I can't devote more time than that right now. David