Hi Dan, If I am understanding your post correctly that all those numbered are children of the same parent, I would suggest that possibly all those b after 1779 are most likely grandchildren rather than children. Starting 1757, 12 children would take you to 1779. The Curlee, could that be the result of a missing comma or misplaced one and could it really be "Barber Curlee" a son of the Curlee husband and Mary Barber b 20 years before the 1781 date as you indicate? Maybe I have misinterpreted the whole thing here, in which case, ignore me. Linda lmenikos@flash.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Sullivan <dan_sullivan@prodigy.net> To: <BARBER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [BARBER-L] Capt. John Barber's wife > All, > The reason I was so curious about the source on Mary is that I've seen John > Barber of Tryon/Lincoln confused with John Barber of Anson. So whenever > anyone says the name John with a military rank involved, I assume they are > talking about John Barber of Tryon/Lincoln as I've never found proof of John > Barber of Anson's service. > > After looking through my notes I did find that The NC Rev. Soldiers, Sailors > and Patriots and Desc. Vol. 1 has the following entry > (Nathan Barber researched these and sent them to me): > > Barber, John (R-Pat-NC) 1738-1802 > m. Mary Barber > > Also in NC Revolutionary War Soldiers list which has the following: > Barber, Jno., pt. Blount's Company, enlisted or Commissioned July 20, 1778, > served 9 mos. > > We can't be postitive that these are the same John Barber as John Barber of > Anson but it seems likely. > > I do have a copy of the copy of the DAR papers of Alonza Marcus Arnett and > it references DAR #358051, 253866 and 399468. (Does anyone have these or > know how to get a copy? ) The Arnett papers say that John Barber was a > Member Comm. of Safety, member Provincial Congress and member of General > Assembly. It also states he was married to Mary (Allen?) in 1754. > > These papers also mention his children as follows: > Abraham, Nicey, Leday, William, Arley, Zebey, James, John, Nancy, Allen, > Gatsey and Mary b. 1767. > > The sources for the DAR papers mention Family Bible and writings as well as > Genealogical and Family history, State Archives, Austin, Texa. > > Just comparing my info. with Wanda's and the DAR info. I tried to mark my > comments clearly and I'm just trying to figure this out as I've been after > this a while. > > John Barber 1738 Anson Co., N.C. - 10 Nov. 1802 Anson Co. > + Mary Ann Allen 1739 - 1807-Dan's comment: A Richard Allen lived next to > John's property so it does seem likely-however, the death date is probably > wrong as Mary Barber sold her dower rights to John Spears in 1819, Anson > County DB U pg. 126. I had left this deed reference off my web site > article, but I just updated it to add it (thanks to the reminder from > Rose!). I have a copy of the deed and its clearly Mary Barber widow of John > Barber. > > 1. William Barber 1757 Anson Co.-Dan's comment: verified by deeds I've > found-died before 1802 as his property went to his heirs in the deed that > split up John's property > 2. Arbey Barber 1758 Anson Co..-Dan's comment: verified by deeds I've > found > 3. James Barber 1760-1847 Anson Co...-Dan's comment: verified by deeds > I've found, but I don't have a birthdate or deathdate > 4. John Barber, Jr. 1761..-Dan's comment: verified by deeds I've > found but I don't have a birthdate > 5. Nancy Barber 1762..-Dan's comment: verified by deeds I've found but > I don't have a birthdate > 6. Sidney Barber 1769-Dan's comment: verified by deeds I've found but > I don't have a birthdate > 7. Curlee Barber 1781..-Dan's comment-is this Mary who married John > Curlee? I have her born in 1761 and died in 1827-my source is the DAR > Records of Alonza Marcus Arnett from Bible Records and Familly History at > State Archives, Austin, Texas > 8. Zibe Zibary Barber 1784 + Sarah Dobbs-..-Dan's comment: verified > by deeds I've found-Zibey in deed but I haven't seen the birthdate or > marriage before > 9. Allen Barber 1795 _ Martha "Patsy" Kilpatrick 1801-1869-Dan's > comment verified by deeds I've found although I don't know about the > marriage to Kilpatrick-did they stay in Anson? > 10. Elida Barber _ Jane B. Dowdy-Dan's comment-not in deeds > 11. Abraham Barber, Sr. 1754-1811 + Rhoda (my line)-Dan's > comment-verified in deeds-my line also, I think-Rhoda may have been a > Braswell > 12. Nicey Barber 1755 + John Davis-Dan's comment-verified in deeds-I > haven't seen the birthdate before > 13. Liday Barber 1756 -Dan's comment-not in deeds-could she have died > young? > 14. William Barber 1757 - 1802 + Mary 1760 - Dan's comment:repeat of #1 > above ?? > 15. Arby Barber 1758- Dan's comment:repeat of #2 above? > > > Here's the rest I have on Mary and John Curlee: > Descendants of Mary Barber > > > > > Generation No. 1 > > > 1. MARY BARBER (JOHN1) was born 1767 in Anson Co., NC, and died 1829 in > Anson Co., NC. She married JOHN CURLEE 1781. He was born 1761 in NC, and > died 1812 in Rutherford, TN. > > Notes for MARY BARBER: > > SOURCE: DAR Records of Alonza Marcus Arnett from Bible Records and Familly > History at State Archives, Austin, Texas > > Notes for JOHN CURLEE: > > SOURCE: DAR Records of Alonza Marcus Arnett from Bible Records and Familly > History at State Archives, Austin, Texas > > > Child of MARY BARBER and JOHN CURLEE is: > > i. RHODA TABITHA3 CURLEE, b. November 11, 1781, Anson Co., NC; d. August 25, > 1837, Leake, MS; m. DAVID ARNETT, 1804; b. August 18, 1785, SC; d. February > 14, 1854, Polk, TX. > > Notes for RHODA TABITHA CURLEE: > > SOURCE: DAR Records of Alonza Marcus Arnett from Bible Records and Familly > History at State Archives, Austin, Texas > > Notes for DAVID ARNETT: > > SOURCE: DAR Records of Alonza Marcus Arnett from Bible Records and Familly > History at State Archives, Austin, Texas > > > > > > Dan Sullivan > > > > > ==== BARBER Mailing List ==== > Your contributions to RootsWeb helps make BARBER-L possible. > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > >