Thank you very much for your insights. We are trying to digest all this information and understand it. We appreciate all your help. Ed and Diane Budd Sent from my iPad > On Mar 7, 2018, at 10:42 PM, banat-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Send BANAT mailing list submissions to > banat@rootsweb.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > banat-request@rootsweb.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > banat-owner@rootsweb.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of BANAT digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Banat List Update (cacfamilysearch@comcast.net) > 2. Franz Grebeldinger - "Bill" (dbudd88@tampabay.rr.com) > 3. Re: Franz Grebeldinger (David Dreyer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 14:51:02 -0600 > From: <cacfamilysearch@comcast.net> > Subject: [BANAT-L] Re: Banat List Update > To: "'Banat List Admin'" <banatmailer@gmail.com>, "'BANAT List'" > <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <04f201d3b656$01711ff0$04535fd0$@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I actually thought there was something wrong with my outlook when I went to > version 10. Appreciate your work getting it up and running > again.........cac > > -----Original Message----- > From: Banat List Admin [mailto:banatmailer@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 7:17 AM > To: BANAT List <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [BANAT-L] Banat List Update > > Hello List Members, > > It appears that Ancestry / Rootsweb has restored the Banat List mail list > service, but they have not yet restored the archives for the list. From what > I could see, all members were restored. If you receive this email, then your > subscription is working and you should be able to use the List as you did > before the update. > > When the List Archives are restored, I will send out another email. > > Here is hoping that the service will be more stable and spam resistant! > > With kind regards, > David Preston > Banat List Administrator > === > http://www.banatbooks.com > http://www.danube-swabians.org > http://www.village-records.org > http://www.molidorf.org > http://danube-swabians.org/MtAngel/ > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 17:12:38 -0500 > From: <dbudd88@tampabay.rr.com> > Subject: [BANAT-L] Franz Grebeldinger - "Bill" > To: <banat@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <001b01d3b661$6987b260$3c971720$@tampabay.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Thank you so much for the information on Franz Grebeldinger's family! It > will keep us very busy. It is so helpful. > > > > Ed & Diane Budd > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2018 03:40:36 +0000 (UTC) > From: David Dreyer <ddreyer@pacbell.net> > Subject: [BANAT-L] Re: Franz Grebeldinger > To: Banat Mailing List <banat@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <311351743.12161902.1520480436338@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Ed, Diane and Bill,Note that the data supplied by Bill, from the Setschan Familienbuch, is somewhat vague on the parents of Michael G and wife, Anna Schulz. There were substantial gaps in the KB data Karl Benz used to write the Setschan FB. I find the marriage entry of Michael in the Dolatz family bookGraebeldinger Michael, son of Franz Grabeldinger and Eva Meng*ca. 1858 Setschanoo 29 Nov 1883 DolatzSchulz Anna, dau of Mathias Schulz and Katharina Ruppert*18 Jun 1864 DolatzObviously someone has made an arithmetic error here. In cases of inexact birth dates as we have for Michael(1858 or 1868) the approximate birth date is arrived at by subtracting the age from the death date. In this case I would think that the 1868 date is correct since it is very rare to find a first marriage where the wife is older than the husband.One now finds the Franz Grebeldinger and Eva Meng family in the Stetschan family book.Grebeldinger Franz, *1834 Kanak +22 Oct 1913 Setschan1oo 14 Jul 1855 Kathreinfeld Meng Eva, dau of Nikolaus Meng and Christina Schneider*13 Aug 1835 Kathreinfeld1 Stefan *1865 Setschan +25 Jul 1915 Setschan2 Nikolaus *27 Dec 1867 Setschan3 Anna Ludmilla *15 Sep 1870 Setschan4 Johann *25 Mar 1874 Setschan2oo 1 Jul 1883 SetschanMassong Franziska, dau of Josef Massong and M A Schubert*1853 Sartscha > Michael is missing from the above list of kids. Either he was born somewhere else or there is a gap in the Setschan records. There is a gap in the above list of kids where he would fit nicely in 1868.I have never run across any Banaters from Kanak. According to the Donaushwaebisches Ortsnamenbuch it is located a bit south of Gr Betschkerek. There is no family book for Kanak. > One finds the marriage entry in the Kathreinfeld family book which has limited data after 1841.Grablzinger Franz*1825oo 12 Jul 1855Meng Eva*1827 > Dave Dreyer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 1:08 PM, Bill <senior7038@gmail.com> wrote: > > > 1507 GREBELDINGER, Michael > * um 1867 Setschan. † 1945 Lager Setschan. > . oo? > SCHULZ (SCHULCZ), Anna > * um 1869. † 1945 Lager Molidorf. > Kinder > 1. Barbara * 06.09.1884 Setschan. Tp.: Barbara GRASSL ; Anton MENO . † > 30.11.1884 > Setschan. > 316 > 2. Anton * 10.08.1885 Setschan. Tp.: Susanna FRIEDRICH ; Anton MENG . † > 24.12.1885 > Setschan. > 3. Franz * 20.09.1886 Setschan HNr. 275. Tp.: Anna DENGEL ; Franz FRIEDRICH. > <Quelle > D.Dreyer: Franz Grebeldinger 18J nach New York, Via Bre/Bal. Ankunft am > 1.06.1905 mit Schiff > "Barbarossa".> > 4. Anna * 10.10.1888 Setschan HNr. 275. (3066) > 5. Jakob * 05.02.1890 Setschan. (1504) > 6. Magdalena * 23.06.1891 Setschan HNr. 401. Tp.: Magdale > > -----Original Message----- > From: dbudd88@tampabay.rr.com <dbudd88@tampabay.rr.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 1:17 PM > To: banat@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BANAT-L] Franz Grebeldinger > > Hi, > > We are looking for information about Franz Grebeldinger born Sept 24 > 1886 in Szecsany, Hungary (Serbia now) to Anna Schulz Grebeldinger and > Michael Grebeldinger. Other villages mentioned are Szegeo, Temesvar, Tor > Srecsany, Austria. Spoke German, Hungarian, "Magyar" . > > > > This is a picture that his daughter, my mother-in-law, had of Franz > Grebeldinger and his parents. Franz is wearing a uniform and we are > interested in what army he was enlisted and when. He came to USA in June > 1905. > > > > We appreciate any help you can give us about Franz and his family. > > > > Thank You, > > Ed & Diane Budd > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > To contact the %(real_name)s list administrator, send an email to > %(real_name)s-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BANAT mailing list -- banat@rootsweb.com, send an email to %(real_name)s@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to %(real_name)s-request@%(host_name)s > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of BANAT Digest, Vol 13, Issue 46 > *************************************