I can't believe I've been researching for over 15 years now and easily been in touch with Dave for the majority of that time, and haven't met him in person to thank him for all his help when he basically lives right in my backyard. Need to fix that soon Dave! Ha! Thanks for all your help! Scott From: Karen Dalton Preston <Karen@golden-hills.com> To: Dave Dreyer <ddreyer@pacbell.net> Cc: BANAT List <banat-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 6:01 AM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Happy Birthday Bob Madler Dave summed it up very well.  We are all in Bob’s debt for this resource. And as long as we recognizing contributions, one of the most important resources is Dave Dreyer’s Ship Lists.  This one of the very best sources for uncovering your ancestors' village of origin in the Banat.  So thank yo, Dave for the countless hours it took to comb through all those arrival manifests and transcribe the data for the Banters. I met Dave Dreyer through the Banat List and we actually met face-to-face at a Mt. Angel Treffen.  We found that we both really enjoyed research, and this led us to several collaborations:  The Deutsch-Ungarishe Calendar List, the Heufeld-Massdorf family book and the family book for St. Hubert. I’ve met many people on the list who have become dear friends over the years.  And, like Dave, genealogy research and writing has become my second career, too. —Karen > On Jan 11, 2018, at 10:38 PM, David Dreyer <ddreyer@pacbell.net> wrote: > > We owe Bob an massive debt for initiating an incredible resource.  For some of us it gave a new focus to our lives and expanded our world in totally unanticipated and unexpected ways.  The LIST played such an important roll in our lives, especially in the early years that it may be worth while recording some of the landmarks along the way.  This can only be a highly personal view of the events and my apologies for overlooked items.Rootweb is down now(that's timing!) so the archives are not available but I believe I subscribed to the list was about 1998 as soon as I could get an internet connection.  John Movius, although not a Banater was a big behind the scenes booster of the list in the early days.  In those early days we were such amateurs.  In our defense there was very little accessible, published material.  A few knowledgeable people were involved in the early days, Monika Ferrier, Franz Quint, Norbert Neidenbach and Uwe Morres come to mind, and perhaps others who had personal experience with the Banat.  These tended to drop away as they recognized how little most of us understood of Banat matters.Initially, the list tended to be dominated by descendants of the North Dakota Banat colony.  The usual problem presented to the list in those days was attempts to determine the Banat village of origin and interpreting scrambled hand-me-down family notes.  I include myself in this search for a village of origin for my Banat grandmother.My memory is a bit fuzzy on the timing but in time Chris Lammesfeld took over the administration of the LIST from Bob.  This task was, in turn, undertaken by Steve Herold who, when he moved back to ND handed the job to the current administrator, David Preston.  There were a few bumps in the road along the way which stirred the pot but it is difficult to remember now what they were all about.A second list, DVHH, which largely duplicated the Banat list appeared 10-15 years ago and a multilingual mailing list created by the, German Donauschwaben group, the AKdFF, has become a widely used resource. .On a personal note, the Banat list has provided me with a second satisfying career in retirement.Dave Dreyer                > >    On Thursday, January 11, 2018 2:41 PM, Edward J. Lowitz <edward.lowitz1@verizon.net> wrote: > > > Happy Birthday Bob! > > Me - sometime after the CompuServe days... > > Earliest email I still have in Outlook is from Monika back in 1997 along > with some from Norbert, Wolfgang, Franz, Uwe, Chris, Dennis, Guenther, > Gordon, Dave & others... > > One of these days I have to go through some of those old emails for all the > sites which I saved!  :-)  > > Ed. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BANAT [mailto:banat-bounces+edward.lowitz1=verizon.net@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Steve Herold > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 12:37 AM > To: BANAT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BANAT-L] Happy Birthday Bob Madler > > Happy Birthday 89th Bob!! > > Bob founded the Banat mailing list on January 19, 1995.  For the first > couple of years of operation the list was hosted by a local ISP and Bob > funded the operation.  The list quickly became quite popular and looking > back at some of the early messages it is amazing how much we have learned > about the Banat since 1995.  Thank you Bob! > > I found Bob on the internet just before he started the list and learned that > Bob's mother was my mother's favorite aunt.    > > I'm curious how many on the list now have been subscribers since before > 2000?  Dave Dryer, I suspect you were on the list before 2000. > > Steve Herold > >  > > >  > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message