Darrel, I do not find your Rollmann and Schell in the Kl Betschkerek family book. There is only a single Rollmann entry at the time of the original settlers. Do you have any guesses of other villages where they might have lived. The New Arad family book only goes to 1835 so perhaps Neu Arad is still a possibility. A similar problem exists for Detta since the Detta family book only goes to 1846/1852. I looked through all the other villages associated with Krummenacker as a family name-----St Hubert-Soultour, Dolatz, Tschakowa-Woteg-North Dakota without results. I wonder about Gilad? I think it is somewhere on line----you might check. This shouldn't be that hard. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: Darrel Hockley To: Dave Dreyer Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 8:10 PM Subject: Anna Krumenacker born 25 Oct. 1887 in Detta Thank you Dr. Dreyer for explaining about missing parish pages and that they were no Rollmanns or Schells in Neu Arad. I now think that Antonio/Anton/Anthony Rollmann (1873 to 1911) and his wife Theresia Schell (1877 to 1946) were born in Klein-Betschkerek and lived in Neu Arad c.1899 to 1905 before the family ended up briefly in the USA and then in Alberta, Canada. In the Detta book, would you please see if Anna Krumenacker, daugher of Peter Krumenacker and unknown, was born there on 25 October 1887? She married in 1910 at Vibank, Saskatchewan, John Jung (1885 to 1977) mentioned in my previous email. Thank you and thank you again for giving me the early children of Mathias and Eva Kiefer Jung born at Detta. Darrel Hockley