Darrel. There are no Rollmann nor Schell entries in the Neu Arad family book. Regarding missing pages in filmed church books(KBs). Missing pages in filmed KBs mainly come about through two causes. Most frequently the microfilm operator unintenually turned two pages at the same time. A missing page, especially in older KBs, comes about when a page becomes loose from the binding. Over the years these pages often become lost. Such pages are often the ones at the beginning or end of the book. If there is a Banat village which does not have families of Jung I haven't found it. I do find some of your guys in nearby Detta. >From the Detta Familienbuch by Anton Kraemer Jung Mathias. . oo Kiefer Eva 1 Peter *16 Aug 1801 Ofsenitza +31 Aug 1801 Offsenitza 2 Peter *16 May 1803 Ofsenitza 3 Anna Maria *14 Jun 1905 Ofsenitza Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: Darrel Hockley To: Dave Dreyer Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Updated Offsenitza Family Book? Hello Dr. Dave, I am now 99 per cent sure that my ancestor Mathias Jung born c.1821 and who married Anna Kilcher at Offsenitza in 1841 was also born at Offsenitza the son of Mathias Jung (born c.1769) and his third wife Anna Maria Klug/Kluch (1797 to c.1824). Last week I found a note dated Sept. 1978 I had made when I interviewed my late great grandmother Mary Hyer (nee Jung) and her sister Mrs. Anna Mahaffey. Their minds were bad in remembering names by then but they were firm in remembering that their branch of Jungs were related to the branch descended from Mathias and his second wife Eva Kiefer (c.1776 to 1817). The note is "John's (John Jung/Young 1885 to 1977 of Regina, SK) Dad (Michael Jung 1839 to 1910 of Parry, SK) and Dad's (Sebastian Jung 1860 to 1938 of Lang, SK) Dad (Mathias c.1821 to ?? of Offsenitza) were brothers". Actually if you add Michael Jung's father, Jakob Jung (1811 to ?? of Offsenitza), to the line then it is fully true - Jakob Jung and Mathias Jung were half-brothers. That is why I ask about a revised Offsenitza book. Maybe there is a page missing in it for baptisms in 1821 or that page was not microfilmed back in the 1940s? Darrel Hockley On Sunday, January 19, 2014 10:57:05 PM, Dave Dreyer <[email protected]> wrote: Darrel, I expect that there is no one working on a further Offsenitza family book. One would need, as a first step to get the necessary copies of the Offsenitza church books(KBs) from the Temeswar archives. You might contact the AKdFF to see if they have copies of the KBs. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darrel Hockley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 6:29 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] Updated Offsenitza Family Book? > Is there anyone working on an updated Offsenitza Family Book with the > entries going up to around the year 1900? > > Darrel Hockley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message