Hi all I have struck a vein of gold in research on the WEBER family of Setschan, specifically family 5023 and 5034. I have some general questions and also specific ones about family 5034 (which is pasted below for reference). If I were to want to obtain copies of the church book entries for this data, would that be possible, and how would I go about doing so? If someone has done this, could you give me an idea of the cost? Is there an old map of Setschan available? Particularly one that gives the house numbers? The record indicates that Katharina WEBER (nee Hiljer) died in Lager Setschan. Can you recommend resources to learn more about this internment camp to be included in the family history I am writing? Also, family data indicates she died 23 Sept 1945 (from a baby book). Is 1946 a general entry? Is there a family book for Pardan? The record indicates that Stefan (5034.5) died in Romania at an unknown date. Where would I learn more about this? Finally, I have a great deal of information on Elisabeth (5034.3). To whom (if anyone) should I send the info to be included as addendum to a future issue of the book? Thank you all so much for your assistance. Renee Carl Washington DC 5034 WEBER (VEBER), Wendelin Eltern: W., Nikolaus u. KIMMEL, Barbara (5023.2) * 20.07.1860 Setschan. † 08.07.1926 Setschan. oo 04.11.1884 Setschan. <Seite mit Trauzeugen fehlt!> 381 HILLIER (HILJER), Katharina Eltern: H., Nikolaus u. SCHÄDL (Schedel), Elisabeth * 28.02.1866 Pardan. † 1946 Lager Setschan. Kinder 1. Valentin * 15.12.1885 Setschan HNr. 301. (5032) 2. Franziska * 08.02.1888 Setschan HNr. 301. Tp.: Stefan HAAS ; Franziska HILLIER . † 11.05.1888 Setschan. 3. Elisabeth * 17.08.1889 Setschan HNr. 301. Tp.: Elisabeth KAUFMANN ; Johann BAUER . † USA. <Quelle D.Dreyer: Elisabeth Weber 17J nach Chicago, IL., zum Onkel Johann Bauer. Ankunft am 1.02.1909 mit Schiff "Neckar".> 4. Anna * 24.02.1893 Setschan HNr. 301. Tp.: Anna GRASSL ; Stefan HAAS . † 18.02.1894 Setschan. 5. Stefan (VEBER) * 20.12.1894 Setschan HNr. 30. Tp.: Theresia RECH ; Stefan HAAS . † Rumänien. 6. Johann * 01.07.1897 Setschan HNr. 301. (5008)

Renne, Please see below. ----- Original Message ----- From: "rk carl" [email protected] To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 1:05 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] Setschan Family Book and research questions > Hi all > I have struck a vein of gold in research on the WEBER family of > Setschan, specifically family 5023 and 5034. I have some general > questions and also specific ones about family 5034 (which is pasted > below for reference). > > If I were to want to obtain copies of the church book entries for this > data, would that be possible, and how would I go about doing so? If > someone has done this, could you give me an idea of the cost? According to the introduction to the Setschan family book the Setschan KBs post 1900 were in the church archives in Gr Betschkerek. The earlier KBs with many gaps are in Neusatz archives. To get copies you would have visit the archives or contact a local researcher to get copies. Price with a resercher would have to be negotiated. > Is there an old map of Setschan available? Particularly one that gives > the house numbers? Such a map with house numbers exists. > > The record indicates that Katharina WEBER (nee Hiljer) died in Lager > Setschan. Can you recommend resources to learn more about this > internment camp to be included in the family history I am writing? See the chronicle at the end of the Setschan family book. > Also, family data indicates she died 23 Sept 1945 (from a baby book). > Is 1946 a general entry? I don't understand what you mean by "a general entry" > > Is there a family book for Pardan? Yes, see Banatbooks.com > > The record indicates that Stefan (5034.5) died in Romania at an > unknown date. Where would I learn more about this? No so easy. Assuming he died in the Banat you could go through every Banat family book available for localities in the Romanian Banat > > Finally, I have a great deal of information on Elisabeth (5034.3). To > whom (if anyone) should I send the info to be included as addendum to > a future issue of the book? You might contact Karl Benz, the Setschan family book author, whose address is Cc above. Dave Dreyer. > > Thank you all so much for your assistance. > Renee Carl > Washington DC > > 5034 WEBER (VEBER), Wendelin Eltern: W., Nikolaus u. KIMMEL, Barbara (5023.2) > * 20.07.1860 Setschan. † 08.07.1926 Setschan. > oo 04.11.1884 Setschan. <Seite mit Trauzeugen fehlt!> > 381 > HILLIER (HILJER), Katharina Eltern: H., Nikolaus u. SCHÄDL (Schedel), Elisabeth > * 28.02.1866 Pardan. † 1946 Lager Setschan. > Kinder > 1. Valentin * 15.12.1885 Setschan HNr. 301. (5032) > 2. Franziska * 08.02.1888 Setschan HNr. 301. Tp.: Stefan HAAS ; > Franziska HILLIER . > † 11.05.1888 Setschan. > 3. Elisabeth * 17.08.1889 Setschan HNr. 301. Tp.: Elisabeth KAUFMANN ; > Johann BAUER . > † USA. <Quelle D.Dreyer: Elisabeth Weber 17J nach Chicago, IL., zum > Onkel Johann Bauer. Ankunft > am 1.02.1909 mit Schiff "Neckar".> > 4. Anna * 24.02.1893 Setschan HNr. 301. Tp.: Anna GRASSL ; Stefan HAAS > . † 18.02.1894 > Setschan. > 5. Stefan (VEBER) * 20.12.1894 Setschan HNr. 30. Tp.: Theresia RECH ; > Stefan HAAS . > † Rumänien. > 6. Johann * 01.07.1897 Setschan HNr. 301. (5008) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dave, thank you for your help. I should have done some more digging before posting, but I was excited with the wealth of information in the Setschan book. I have some follow-up questions/comments. How might I view/obtain the old map of Setschan? The chronicle at the end was inserted as an image into the PDF, so I can't easily use Google translate. I am going to try and tackle the chronicle with an OCR Reader and the Google Translate, which will result in a very rough translation, but I don't read German, and that's better than nothing. If there are any web-based or English language sources, I would be grateful for links. What I meant by "general entry" for 1946 is that it doesn't supply a specific date, and since it was an internment camp, was a general date supplied because of lack of knowledge of details on those interned? Regarding Stefan who died in Romania, my follow-up would be where did the information about Romania come from originally? Again, thank you for your time. Your suggestions have really helped my research. Renee On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Dave Dreyer <[email protected]> wrote: > Renne, > Please see below. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rk carl" [email protected] > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 1:05 PM > Subject: [BANAT-L] Setschan Family Book and research questions > >> Hi all >> I have struck a vein of gold in research on the WEBER family of >> Setschan, specifically family 5023 and 5034. I have some general >> questions and also specific ones about family 5034 (which is pasted >> below for reference). >> >> If I were to want to obtain copies of the church book entries for this >> data, would that be possible, and how would I go about doing so? If >> someone has done this, could you give me an idea of the cost? > > According to the introduction to the Setschan family book the Setschan KBs > post 1900 were in the church archives in Gr Betschkerek. The earlier KBs > with many gaps are in Neusatz archives. > To get copies you would have visit the archives or contact a local > researcher to get copies. Price with a resercher would have to be > negotiated. > >> Is there an old map of Setschan available? Particularly one that gives >> the house numbers? > > Such a map with house numbers exists. > >> >> The record indicates that Katharina WEBER (nee Hiljer) died in Lager >> Setschan. Can you recommend resources to learn more about this >> internment camp to be included in the family history I am writing? > > See the chronicle at the end of the Setschan family book. > >> Also, family data indicates she died 23 Sept 1945 (from a baby book). >> Is 1946 a general entry? > > I don't understand what you mean by "a general entry" > >> >> Is there a family book for Pardan? > > Yes, see Banatbooks.com > >> >> The record indicates that Stefan (5034.5) died in Romania at an >> unknown date. Where would I learn more about this? > > No so easy. Assuming he died in the Banat you could go through every Banat > family book available for localities in the Romanian Banat > >> >> Finally, I have a great deal of information on Elisabeth (5034.3). To >> whom (if anyone) should I send the info to be included as addendum to >> a future issue of the book? > > You might contact Karl Benz, the Setschan family book author, whose address > is Cc above. > Dave Dreyer. > >> >> Thank you all so much for your assistance. >> Renee Carl >> Washington DC >> >> 5034 WEBER (VEBER), Wendelin Eltern: W., Nikolaus u. KIMMEL, Barbara >> (5023.2) >> * 20.07.1860 Setschan. † 08.07.1926 Setschan. >> oo 04.11.1884 Setschan. <Seite mit Trauzeugen fehlt!> >> 381 >> HILLIER (HILJER), Katharina Eltern: H., Nikolaus u. SCHÄDL (Schedel), >> Elisabeth >> * 28.02.1866 Pardan. † 1946 Lager Setschan. >> Kinder >> 1. Valentin * 15.12.1885 Setschan HNr. 301. (5032) >> 2. Franziska * 08.02.1888 Setschan HNr. 301. Tp.: Stefan HAAS ; >> Franziska HILLIER . >> † 11.05.1888 Setschan. >> 3. Elisabeth * 17.08.1889 Setschan HNr. 301. Tp.: Elisabeth KAUFMANN ; >> Johann BAUER . >> † USA. <Quelle D.Dreyer: Elisabeth Weber 17J nach Chicago, IL., zum >> Onkel Johann Bauer. Ankunft >> am 1.02.1909 mit Schiff "Neckar".> >> 4. Anna * 24.02.1893 Setschan HNr. 301. Tp.: Anna GRASSL ; Stefan HAAS >> . † 18.02.1894 >> Setschan. >> 5. Stefan (VEBER) * 20.12.1894 Setschan HNr. 30. Tp.: Theresia RECH ; >> Stefan HAAS . >> † Rumänien. >> 6. Johann * 01.07.1897 Setschan HNr. 301. (5008) >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message