Hello Dave, I apologize for being slow in telling you Thank You for your reply regarding the Putz family from Sartscha.  I hope I can write what I want to say so it make sense as the additonal information you sent Re:  Joseph Putz * 1878 Sartscha & married Barbara Harsch has caused a dilemma for me.  I've tried the last two days to sort it out but without too much success.  Any thoughts by you at the end of this will be greatly appreciated. Eileen Lund-Johnson sent me copies from the Sartscha CD showing the church book pages for: 1. Petrus Putz * 22 Sept 1873, Baptized 23 Sept 1873, parents Joannes Putz &     Margaretha Kortje. (Matched exactly what I had) 2. Josephus Putz *18 Oct 1875, Baptized 19, Oct. 1875, parents Joannes Putz &     Margaretha Kortje. (Records on Ancestry had him born 15 Oct 1875) John, Margaret, Peter, wife Barbara Lafluer & 2 of their children, Jacob & John are buried on the Putz family Plot, Mt. Hope Cemetery, Croswell, Mi.  Third son, Anton died in California.  Joseph, his wife Mary Jost, & their children Jacob, John & Nicholas also are all buried on family plot, Mt Hope cemetery, Croswell, Mi.   Peter, his wife, Jacob, John & Anton as well as Janos & Margit arrived in New York Nov 14, 1911 & went to Croswell to his brother, Joseph Putz. Joseph Putz, wife Maria, Jacob & Johann arrived Baltimore Dec 8, 1904 & were going to father-in-law Johann Yost, Cleveland.  By 1910 this family was in Croswell & Joseph was working for the Michigan Sugar Co. as well as farming.  Sugar beets was then & still is big business in the Saginaw Valley area & Sanilac Co.  Pioneer Sugar Co. currently runs the sugar factory in Croswell.   So far this all made sense.  Your information then says: In the Lazarfeld book there is listed: Josef Putz *1878 son of Johann & Margaret Kortje.  (born 3 years later than my Josef).  That he married 31 Aug 1902 Lazarfeld - Barbara Harsch & they had two children:  Katharina *24 Feb 1903 Kathreinfeld                Josef *19 Sept 1904 Kathreinfeld After thinking I had something wrong in what I had first put together I have determined there are two Joseph Putz families & in time this 2nd family also was in Croswell, Mi with Joseph working for the sugar factory. I have not found Joseph Putz born 1878 on a ship manifest yet but I have his wife Barbara & children Katalin & Joseph arriving N.Y. 7 July 1907 going to husband, Joseph Putz, Caro, Michigan who worked for Michigan Sugar Co. I have now found them in the 1910 Census, Tuscola Co., 1920 census Sanilac Co. living in Buel, 1930 Census Sanilac Co - Lexington, 1940 census St Clair Co., - Riley. My question is, how is it possible that these two seperate Joseph Putz's have the same parents?  Since they both came from Scartscha, I'm sure they are related but would parents give two living sons the same first name?   Thank you so much for taking the time to read all this and any thoughts you might have would be so much appreciated. Judy Ottinger Michigan On Friday, August 22, 2014 12:35 AM, David Dreyer <[email protected]> wrote: Judy, I find the birth record of Josef Putz *15 Sep 1873 son of Johann Putz and Margartet Kortje in the Sartscha KBs as you indicate.   I have not found the marriage of Johann Putz and Marg Kortje in the Sartscha records.   In the Lazarfeld family book I find the following entry. Putz Josef, son of Johann Putz and Margaret Kortje *1878 Sartscha oo 31 Aug 1902 Lazarfeld Harsch Barbara, dau of Michael Harsch and Juliane Stark *1880 Lazarfeld 1 Katharina             *24 Feb 1903 Kathreinfeld 2 Josef                     *19 Sep 1904 Kathreinfeld  This entry is found in a more abbreviated form in Roswitha’s Kathreinfeld family book. Dave Dreyer From: [email protected] Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎August‎ ‎21‎, ‎2014 ‎5‎:‎48‎ ‎AM To: [email protected] I was wondering if anyone might have the Sartscha CD and if so would you please look and see if the PUTZ surname appears.  Following is what I have pieced together using ship Manifests and Ancestry records: > >Putz, Michael - no other information; spouse Catherine Plume - no other information. >Son:  Johann Putz * 13 Jan 1838 Hungary + 12 Dec 1917 Worth Twp., Sanilac Co., Michigan oo Margaretha ? (sounds like Koetye) *15 June 1843 Hungary + 1 July 1926 Worth Twp., Sanilac Co., Michigan. > >Children of Johann & Margaretha: >1.  Peter Putz *22 Sept 1873 - his ship Manifest says in Lugosch, + 1955 Michigan, probably Sanilac Co. as he is buried in Croswell, Michigan  oo Barbara Laffleur/Lafleur/Laffler. David Dreyer's DU Kalender Extractions indicates he is from Sartscha. > >2.  Josef Putz *15 Oct 1875 - his ship manifest says Sartscha & David Dreyer's DU Kalender Extractions indicates he is from Sartscha. Josef died March 1966, Port Huron, Michigan.  He married Maria Jost.  > >I would like to know if Michael Putz & Catherine Plume are on the CD and any other information on this family. >Thank you for any help that can be given. > >Judy Ottinger, Michigan >   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message