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    1. Re: [BANAT-L] Josef HÜPFEL Grabatz book
    2. Paul Clark

    3. Some information on the book is available at http://www.banatbooks.com/FamilienbuchList.htm   PS:  The Grabatz book can be ordered from Grabatz HOG, Alfred Ivanov, Am Hasenlauf 23, D-67591 Offstein; There is some Email information on the web site.   I just mailed him cash US post to Germany and in a couple of weeks the book arrived.  It is a two book set in hard cover that requires about 4 inches of shelve space and cost a bit more than some of the CD books.  I only have one direct line from Grabatz for my family, but several of my distant cousins have Grabatz connections and the books have been a good resource.   Paul Clark ________________________________ From: Paul Clark <[email protected]> To: Fran Matkovich <[email protected]>; Maria Moore <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Josef HÜPFEL Grabatz In Grabatz book   2330 HÜPFEL Karl, 2313.5 * 03.11.1851 Grabatz oo K 12.01.1875 Grabatz SCHILLING Barbara, 4713.10 * 31.07.1854 Grabatz I had overlooked one Josef who is a son of the couple below and probably the one but still one month off. 2332 HÜPFEL Philipp 2313.9 (brother of Karl above) * 07.11.1858 Grabatz oo K 06.07.1880 Grabatz (Tz: Michael Henzl, Michael HÜPFEL) Manjet Magdalena 3262.12 *16.09.1858 Grabatz 1. Josef *25.01.1881 in Grabatz 2. Elisabeth *21.12.1882 Grabatz 3. Theresia *27.07.1884 Grabatz Paten: 1. Josef Erling, Theresia HÜPFEL There are four more generations of HÜPFEL back to Michael HÜPFEL *um 1716 Podersdorf  +21.01.1770 Grabatz and spouse Anna Maria Unknown *1720 Burgenland + 1765 Boglar Two other possible Josef both born in 1881 Josef *15.09.1881 Grabatz son of Johann HÜPFEL and Theresia HÜPFEL Josef *15.07.1881 Grabatz son of Karl HÜPFEL and Barbara Shilling.  There are 4 more siblings in the Grabatz book bottom of page 550 Josef *1874, Barbara *1878, Franz *1880,  Johann * 1884  Appears this couple moved back and forth between Deutsch Zerne and Grabatz There is more information on most of these people, but I only have the book in hard copy, so not providing it at this time. Paul  Quentin Clark ________________________________ From: Fran Matkovich <[email protected]> To: Paul Clark <[email protected]>; Maria Moore <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Adam FOHS & Family from Nagykikinda The following HÜPFEL are from the Deutsch Zerne Familienbuch.  Perhaps they are related, as the first one refers back to Grabatz. 4014 HÜPFEL Karl, Taglöhner * e 1851 Grabatz +/bgr 11/12.06.1928 SZ/DZ SZ Haus Nr. 725 vh SCHILLINGER Barbara, SZ * Grabatz 1. Jakob * e 1877 Grabatz <4015> 2. Anna */~ 08/09.07.1883 SZ/DZ P.: Johann Schillinger, Anna Schillinger <12189> 3. Johann */~ 13/15.11.1885 SZ/DZ P.: Johann Schäfer, Theresia Schleimer <4016> 4. Anton */~ 12/13.03.1892 SZ/DZ +/bgr 19/20.09.1898 SZ/DZ P.: Anton Stiebl, Franziska Weissmann 5. Franz */~ 17/18.02.1894 SZ/DZ +/bgr 11/12.02.1898 SZ/DZ P.: Franz Kremer, Barbara Schillinger 6. Franz Karl Josef */~ 18/19.03.1897 SZ/DZ P.: Franz Walter, Elisabetha Behring <4017> 4015 HÜPFEL Jakob <4014.1>, Taglöhner, S.v. H. Karl und SCHILLINGER Barbara * e 1877 Grabatz +/bgr 09/11.08.1924 DZ, Typhus Haus Nr. 725, 817, DZ 146, ab 29.06.1906 in Cleveland vh K 29.01.1900 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Jakob Schillinger, Nikolaus Kampf) NEUMAYER Eva <7804.5>, T.v. N. Heinrich und KAMPF Katharina */~ 11.02.1877 DZ +/bgr 30.04/01.05.1935 DZ, Asthma 1. Johann */~ 27/30.09.1900 SZ/DZ P.: Johann Gabor, Anna Hüpfel <4018> 2. Gertrud */~ 23/25.06.1902 DZ P.: Anton Kremer, Anton Neumajer <10401> 3. Franz */~ 20/26.05.1912 DZ P.: Franz Hüpfel, Katharina Krausshaar <4019> 4. Eva */~ 06/12.10.1920 DZ P.: Ludwig Meumayer, Eva Schummer <10557> 4016 HÜPFEL Johann <4014.3>, S.v. H. Karl und SCHILLINGER Barbara */~ 13/15.11.1885 SZ/DZ ab 19.12.1909 mit Familie in Cleveland vh K 15.02.1909 St.-Georgen TITZ Barbara * 15.06.1887 Tschesterlek 4017 HÜPFEL Franz Karl Josef <4014.6>, Bäcker, S.v. H. Karl und SCHILLINGER Barbara */~ 18/19.03.1897 SZ/DZ auch Hipfel vh K 09.01.1919 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Franz Walter, Josef Majer) TABAR Anna Maria <11185.6>, T.v. T. Michael und MAYER Maria */~ 24/30.05.1898 DZ 1. Johann */~ 25/26.10.1919 SZ/DZ P.: Johann Hüpfel, Elisabetha Mayer 4018 HÜPFEL Johann <4015.1>, Musikant, S.v. H. Jakob und NEUMAYER Eva */~ 27/30.09.1900 SZ/DZ vh K 18.06.1925 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Josef Wagner, Anton Strobl) BOCKMÜLLER Maria Anna <1092.3>, T.v. B. Nikolaus und LICHTFUß Katharina */~ 09/10.07.1902 SZ/DZ 1. Jakob Johann */~ 16/23.08.1925 DZ 2. Eva */~ 21/28.02.1929 SZ/DZ P.: Franz Hüpfel, Eva Bauer (geb. Bockmüller) Firmung am 11.05.1938 4019 HÜPFEL Franz <4015.3>, S.v. H. Jakob und NEUMAYER Eva */~ 20/26.05.1912 DZ vh K 16.06.1935 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Nikolaus Feuerholz, Mathias Ludwig, Anton Spengler) SEHR Magdalena <10146.3>, T.v. S. Anton und FEUERHOLZ Anna */~ 05/06.12.1914 DZ 1. Jakob */~ 09/13.06.1937 DZ +/bgr 27/29.09.1937 DZ P.: Jakob sehr, Eva Hüpfel 2. Johann */~ 20/29.10.1939 DZ P.: Johann Hüpfel, Maria Mayer 3. Maria */~ 11/17.05.1942 DZ P.: Josef Sehr, Johann Hüpfel, Maria Wagner (geb. Vichnal) <842> Fran Matkovich -----Original Message----- From: Paul Clark Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 8:20 AM To: Maria Moore ; [email protected] ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Adam FOHS & Family from Nagykikinda Hello, In the Grabatz book, I suspect HIPFEL has an alternate spelling of HŰPFEL. There are a couple of Josef born in 1881, but I didn't see one with a matching birthday on 25 Feb 1881. I might have overlooked it, but others might check under the alternate spelling. Paul Quentin Clark ________________________________ From: Maria Moore <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:41 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] Adam FOHS & Family from Nagykikinda I am new to the list and looking for information on my Grandparents from the Banat.  What information I have on them from Hungary is from family stories and documents that my father had.  I have not been able to find anything on them in any other records or indexes.  I have not been able to verify the names of my Great Grandparents or go back any further - I have hit a brick wall.  Any information anyone can provide or point me in the right direction is greatly appreciated. Catherine ROTH had a father or brothers named Anthony ROTH and Pal ROTH. Adam FOHS & Catherine ROTH had: *        Elizabeth FOHS b. 1883 in Nagykikinda, Hungary *        Adam FOHS b. 6 Nov 1889 in Nagykikinda, Hungary m. Magdalena KNAB 1Jan1918 in Chicago, IL.  Adam left Bremen on 11Sep1912 aboard the S.S. Konigin Luise. Starting at the age of 14, Adam spent his 4-year apprenticeship under master ropemaker Pal ROTH at Nagykikinda, Hungary from 1 March 1904 to 1 March 1908 as an apprentice studying the craft of ropemaking. Juszt KNAB & Maria RECZLER had: *        Magdalena KNAB b. 24 Dec 1879 in Seultour, Hungary m. Josef Klar (b. about 1881) in1902. She was baptized Catholic at Saint-Hubert. Magdalena arrived in New York on 16Oct1907 aboard the Barbarossa. They divorced or Josef died. Magdalena KLAR & Josef KLAR had: *        Elizabeth KLAR b. 10Sep1903 in Yugoslavia. Josef HIPFEL b. 25Feb1881 in Grabatz, Hungary m. Elizabeth FOHS in 1900. Josef HIPFEL & Elizabeth FOHS had: *        Teresa A. HIPFEL b. 28Aug1901 in Hungary *        Elizabeth HIPFEL b. 1Jul1905 in Hungary *        Joseph A. HIPFEL b. 19May1906 in Hungary Thanks, Maria Moore ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/28/2014 10:53:49
    1. Re: [BANAT-L] Josef HÜPFEL Grabatz book
    2. Dave Dreyer

    3. Paul et al. I expect that you are on the right track. It is not at all unusual for birth dates to be off by days and months when comparing records generated here with those from the Banat. For one thing people often got the baptism date confused with the birth date. In this Huepfel case it is likely that the matter can be resolved by finding the guy in the passenger ship records and comparing that data with that in the family book. A further check would be finding his WW I draft registration record which would givean exact birth date and (if you are lucky) a place of birth. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Clark" <[email protected]> To: "Fran Matkovich" <[email protected]>; "Maria Moore" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 4:53 AM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Josef HÜPFEL Grabatz book > Some information on the book is available at > http://www.banatbooks.com/FamilienbuchList.htm > > PS: The Grabatz book can be ordered from Grabatz HOG, Alfred Ivanov, Am > Hasenlauf 23, D-67591 Offstein; > There is some Email information on the web site. > > I just mailed him cash US post to Germany and in a couple of weeks the > book arrived. It is a two book set in hard cover that requires about 4 > inches of shelve space and cost a bit more than some of the CD books. I > only have one direct line from Grabatz for my family, but several of my > distant cousins have Grabatz connections and the books have been a good > resource. > > Paul Clark > > ________________________________ > From: Paul Clark <[email protected]> > To: Fran Matkovich <[email protected]>; Maria Moore > <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; > "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 9:47 PM > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Josef HÜPFEL Grabatz > > > > In Grabatz book > > 2330 HÜPFEL Karl, 2313.5 > * 03.11.1851 Grabatz > oo K 12.01.1875 Grabatz > SCHILLING Barbara, 4713.10 > * 31.07.1854 Grabatz > > I had overlooked one Josef who is a son of the couple below and probably > the one but still one month off. > > 2332 HÜPFEL Philipp 2313.9 (brother of Karl above) > * 07.11.1858 Grabatz > oo K 06.07.1880 Grabatz (Tz: Michael Henzl, Michael HÜPFEL) > Manjet Magdalena 3262.12 > *16.09.1858 Grabatz > > 1. Josef *25.01.1881 in Grabatz > 2. Elisabeth *21.12.1882 Grabatz > 3. Theresia *27.07.1884 Grabatz > > Paten: 1. Josef Erling, Theresia HÜPFEL > > There are four more generations of HÜPFEL back to Michael HÜPFEL *um 1716 > Podersdorf +21.01.1770 Grabatz and spouse Anna Maria Unknown *1720 > Burgenland + 1765 Boglar > > Two other possible Josef both born in 1881 > > Josef *15.09.1881 Grabatz son of Johann HÜPFEL and Theresia HÜPFEL > > Josef *15.07.1881 Grabatz son of Karl HÜPFEL and Barbara Shilling. There > are 4 more siblings in the Grabatz book bottom of page 550 Josef *1874, > Barbara *1878, Franz *1880, Johann * 1884 Appears this couple moved back > and forth between Deutsch Zerne and Grabatz > > There is more information on most of these people, but I only have the > book in hard copy, so not providing it at this time. > > Paul Quentin Clark > > ________________________________ > From: Fran Matkovich <[email protected]> > To: Paul Clark <[email protected]>; Maria Moore <[email protected]>; > [email protected]; [email protected] > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 4:02 PM > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Adam FOHS & Family from Nagykikinda > > The > following HÜPFEL are from the Deutsch Zerne Familienbuch. Perhaps they > are related, as the first one refers back to Grabatz. > > 4014 > HÜPFEL Karl, Taglöhner > * e 1851 Grabatz +/bgr 11/12.06.1928 SZ/DZ > SZ Haus Nr. 725 > vh > SCHILLINGER Barbara, SZ > * Grabatz > 1. Jakob * e 1877 Grabatz <4015> > 2. Anna */~ 08/09.07.1883 SZ/DZ P.: Johann Schillinger, Anna Schillinger > <12189> > 3. Johann */~ 13/15.11.1885 SZ/DZ P.: Johann Schäfer, Theresia Schleimer > <4016> > 4. Anton */~ 12/13.03.1892 SZ/DZ +/bgr 19/20.09.1898 SZ/DZ P.: Anton > Stiebl, > Franziska Weissmann > 5. Franz */~ 17/18.02.1894 SZ/DZ +/bgr 11/12.02.1898 SZ/DZ P.: Franz > Kremer, > Barbara Schillinger > 6. Franz Karl Josef */~ 18/19.03.1897 SZ/DZ P.: Franz Walter, Elisabetha > Behring <4017> > 4015 > HÜPFEL Jakob <4014.1>, Taglöhner, S.v. H. Karl und SCHILLINGER Barbara > * e 1877 Grabatz +/bgr 09/11.08.1924 DZ, Typhus > Haus Nr. 725, 817, DZ 146, ab 29.06.1906 in Cleveland > vh K 29.01.1900 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Jakob Schillinger, Nikolaus Kampf) > NEUMAYER Eva <7804.5>, T.v. N. Heinrich und KAMPF Katharina > */~ 11.02.1877 DZ +/bgr 30.04/01.05.1935 DZ, Asthma > 1. Johann */~ 27/30.09.1900 SZ/DZ P.: Johann Gabor, Anna Hüpfel <4018> > 2. Gertrud */~ 23/25.06.1902 DZ P.: Anton Kremer, Anton Neumajer <10401> > 3. Franz */~ 20/26.05.1912 DZ P.: Franz Hüpfel, Katharina Krausshaar > <4019> > 4. Eva */~ 06/12.10.1920 DZ P.: Ludwig Meumayer, > Eva Schummer <10557> > 4016 > HÜPFEL Johann <4014.3>, S.v. H. Karl und SCHILLINGER Barbara > */~ 13/15.11.1885 SZ/DZ > ab 19.12.1909 mit Familie in Cleveland > vh K 15.02.1909 St.-Georgen > TITZ Barbara > * 15.06.1887 Tschesterlek > 4017 > HÜPFEL Franz Karl Josef <4014.6>, Bäcker, S.v. H. Karl und SCHILLINGER > Barbara > */~ 18/19.03.1897 SZ/DZ > auch Hipfel > vh K 09.01.1919 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Franz Walter, Josef Majer) > TABAR Anna Maria <11185.6>, T.v. T. Michael und MAYER Maria > */~ 24/30.05.1898 DZ > 1. Johann */~ 25/26.10.1919 SZ/DZ P.: Johann Hüpfel, Elisabetha Mayer > 4018 > HÜPFEL Johann <4015.1>, Musikant, S.v. H. Jakob und NEUMAYER Eva > */~ > 27/30.09.1900 SZ/DZ > vh K 18.06.1925 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Josef Wagner, Anton Strobl) > BOCKMÜLLER Maria Anna <1092.3>, T.v. B. Nikolaus und LICHTFUß Katharina > */~ 09/10.07.1902 SZ/DZ > 1. Jakob Johann */~ 16/23.08.1925 DZ > 2. Eva */~ 21/28.02.1929 SZ/DZ P.: Franz Hüpfel, Eva Bauer (geb. > Bockmüller) > Firmung am 11.05.1938 > 4019 > HÜPFEL Franz <4015.3>, S.v. H. Jakob und NEUMAYER Eva > */~ 20/26.05.1912 DZ > vh K 16.06.1935 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Nikolaus Feuerholz, Mathias Ludwig, > Anton Spengler) > SEHR Magdalena <10146.3>, T.v. S. Anton und FEUERHOLZ Anna > */~ 05/06.12.1914 DZ > 1. Jakob */~ 09/13.06.1937 DZ +/bgr 27/29.09.1937 DZ P.: Jakob sehr, Eva > Hüpfel > 2. Johann */~ 20/29.10.1939 DZ P.: > Johann Hüpfel, Maria Mayer > 3. Maria */~ 11/17.05.1942 DZ P.: Josef Sehr, Johann Hüpfel, Maria Wagner > (geb. Vichnal) <842> > > > Fran Matkovich > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Clark > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 8:20 AM > To: Maria Moore ; [email protected] ; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Adam FOHS & Family from Nagykikinda > > Hello, > > In the Grabatz book, I suspect HIPFEL has an alternate > spelling of HŰPFEL. > > There are a couple of Josef born in 1881, but I didn't see one with a > matching birthday on 25 Feb 1881. I might have overlooked it, but others > might check under the alternate spelling. > > Paul Quentin Clark > > > > ________________________________ > From: Maria Moore <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; > "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:41 PM > Subject: [BANAT-L] Adam FOHS & Family from Nagykikinda > > > I am new to the list and looking for information on my Grandparents from > the > Banat. What information I have on them from Hungary is from family stories > and documents that my father had. I have not been able to find anything on > them in any other records or indexes. I have not been able to verify the > names of my Great Grandparents or go back any further - I have hit a brick > wall. Any information anyone can provide > or point me in the right direction > is greatly appreciated. > > Catherine ROTH had a father or brothers named Anthony ROTH and Pal ROTH. > > Adam FOHS & Catherine ROTH had: > > * Elizabeth FOHS b. 1883 in Nagykikinda, Hungary > > * Adam FOHS b. 6 Nov 1889 in Nagykikinda, Hungary m. Magdalena KNAB > 1Jan1918 in Chicago, IL. Adam left Bremen on 11Sep1912 aboard the S.S. > Konigin Luise. > > Starting at the age of 14, Adam spent his 4-year apprenticeship under > master > ropemaker Pal ROTH at Nagykikinda, Hungary from 1 March 1904 to 1 March > 1908 > as an apprentice studying the craft of ropemaking. > > Juszt KNAB & Maria RECZLER had: > > * Magdalena KNAB b. 24 Dec 1879 in Seultour, Hungary m. Josef Klar > (b. about 1881) in1902. She was baptized Catholic at Saint-Hubert. > Magdalena arrived in New York on 16Oct1907 aboard the Barbarossa. They > divorced or Josef died. > > > Magdalena KLAR & Josef KLAR had: > > * Elizabeth KLAR b. 10Sep1903 in Yugoslavia. > > Josef HIPFEL b. 25Feb1881 in Grabatz, Hungary m. Elizabeth FOHS in 1900. > > Josef HIPFEL & Elizabeth FOHS had: > > * Teresa A. HIPFEL b. 28Aug1901 in Hungary > > * Elizabeth HIPFEL b. 1Jul1905 in Hungary > > * > Joseph A. HIPFEL b. 19May1906 in Hungary > > Thanks, > Maria Moore > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

    03/29/2014 05:16:15
    1. Re: [BANAT-L] Josef HÜPFEL Grabatz book
    2. Maria Moore

    3. Thanks to everyone for the information. This gives me more leads to track down and determine if indeed this is the correct Josef Huepfel. It is wonderful to have others to assist. Maria -----Original Message----- From: Dave Dreyer [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 1:16 PM To: Paul Clark; Fran Matkovich; Maria Moore; [email protected] Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Josef HÜPFEL Grabatz book Paul et al. I expect that you are on the right track. It is not at all unusual for birth dates to be off by days and months when comparing records generated here with those from the Banat. For one thing people often got the baptism date confused with the birth date. In this Huepfel case it is likely that the matter can be resolved by finding the guy in the passenger ship records and comparing that data with that in the family book. A further check would be finding his WW I draft registration record which would givean exact birth date and (if you are lucky) a place of birth. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Clark" <[email protected]> To: "Fran Matkovich" <[email protected]>; "Maria Moore" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 4:53 AM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Josef HÜPFEL Grabatz book > Some information on the book is available at > http://www.banatbooks.com/FamilienbuchList.htm > > PS: The Grabatz book can be ordered from Grabatz HOG, Alfred Ivanov, > Am Hasenlauf 23, D-67591 Offstein; There is some Email information on > the web site. > > I just mailed him cash US post to Germany and in a couple of weeks the > book arrived. It is a two book set in hard cover that requires about 4 > inches of shelve space and cost a bit more than some of the CD books. > I only have one direct line from Grabatz for my family, but several of > my distant cousins have Grabatz connections and the books have been a > good resource. > > Paul Clark > > ________________________________ > From: Paul Clark <[email protected]> > To: Fran Matkovich <[email protected]>; Maria Moore > <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; > "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 9:47 PM > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Josef HÜPFEL Grabatz > > > > In Grabatz book > > 2330 HÜPFEL Karl, 2313.5 > * 03.11.1851 Grabatz > oo K 12.01.1875 Grabatz > SCHILLING Barbara, 4713.10 > * 31.07.1854 Grabatz > > I had overlooked one Josef who is a son of the couple below and > probably the one but still one month off. > > 2332 HÜPFEL Philipp 2313.9 (brother of Karl above) > * 07.11.1858 Grabatz > oo K 06.07.1880 Grabatz (Tz: Michael Henzl, Michael HÜPFEL) Manjet > Magdalena 3262.12 > *16.09.1858 Grabatz > > 1. Josef *25.01.1881 in Grabatz > 2. Elisabeth *21.12.1882 Grabatz > 3. Theresia *27.07.1884 Grabatz > > Paten: 1. Josef Erling, Theresia HÜPFEL > > There are four more generations of HÜPFEL back to Michael HÜPFEL *um > 1716 Podersdorf +21.01.1770 Grabatz and spouse Anna Maria Unknown > *1720 Burgenland + 1765 Boglar > > Two other possible Josef both born in 1881 > > Josef *15.09.1881 Grabatz son of Johann HÜPFEL and Theresia HÜPFEL > > Josef *15.07.1881 Grabatz son of Karl HÜPFEL and Barbara Shilling. > There are 4 more siblings in the Grabatz book bottom of page 550 Josef > *1874, Barbara *1878, Franz *1880, Johann * 1884 Appears this couple > moved back and forth between Deutsch Zerne and Grabatz > > There is more information on most of these people, but I only have the > book in hard copy, so not providing it at this time. > > Paul Quentin Clark > > ________________________________ > From: Fran Matkovich <[email protected]> > To: Paul Clark <[email protected]>; Maria Moore <[email protected]>; > [email protected]; [email protected] > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 4:02 PM > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Adam FOHS & Family from Nagykikinda > > The > following HÜPFEL are from the Deutsch Zerne Familienbuch. Perhaps they > are related, as the first one refers back to Grabatz. > > 4014 > HÜPFEL Karl, Taglöhner > * e 1851 Grabatz +/bgr 11/12.06.1928 SZ/DZ SZ Haus Nr. 725 vh > SCHILLINGER Barbara, SZ > * Grabatz > 1. Jakob * e 1877 Grabatz <4015> > 2. Anna */~ 08/09.07.1883 SZ/DZ P.: Johann Schillinger, Anna > Schillinger <12189> 3. Johann */~ 13/15.11.1885 SZ/DZ P.: Johann > Schäfer, Theresia Schleimer <4016> 4. Anton */~ 12/13.03.1892 SZ/DZ > +/bgr 19/20.09.1898 SZ/DZ P.: Anton Stiebl, Franziska Weissmann 5. > Franz */~ 17/18.02.1894 SZ/DZ +/bgr 11/12.02.1898 SZ/DZ P.: Franz > Kremer, Barbara Schillinger 6. Franz Karl Josef */~ 18/19.03.1897 > SZ/DZ P.: Franz Walter, Elisabetha Behring <4017> > 4015 > HÜPFEL Jakob <4014.1>, Taglöhner, S.v. H. Karl und SCHILLINGER Barbara > * e 1877 Grabatz +/bgr 09/11.08.1924 DZ, Typhus Haus Nr. 725, 817, DZ > 146, ab 29.06.1906 in Cleveland vh K 29.01.1900 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ > Jakob Schillinger, Nikolaus Kampf) NEUMAYER Eva <7804.5>, T.v. N. > Heinrich und KAMPF Katharina */~ 11.02.1877 DZ +/bgr 30.04/01.05.1935 > DZ, Asthma 1. Johann */~ 27/30.09.1900 SZ/DZ P.: Johann Gabor, Anna > Hüpfel <4018> 2. Gertrud */~ 23/25.06.1902 DZ P.: Anton Kremer, Anton > Neumajer <10401> 3. Franz */~ 20/26.05.1912 DZ P.: Franz Hüpfel, > Katharina Krausshaar <4019> 4. Eva */~ 06/12.10.1920 DZ P.: Ludwig > Meumayer, Eva Schummer <10557> > 4016 > HÜPFEL Johann <4014.3>, S.v. H. Karl und SCHILLINGER Barbara */~ > 13/15.11.1885 SZ/DZ ab 19.12.1909 mit Familie in Cleveland vh K > 15.02.1909 St.-Georgen TITZ Barbara > * 15.06.1887 Tschesterlek > 4017 > HÜPFEL Franz Karl Josef <4014.6>, Bäcker, S.v. H. Karl und SCHILLINGER > Barbara */~ 18/19.03.1897 SZ/DZ auch Hipfel vh K 09.01.1919 DZ (ledig, > ledig, TZ Franz Walter, Josef Majer) TABAR Anna Maria <11185.6>, T.v. > T. Michael und MAYER Maria */~ 24/30.05.1898 DZ 1. Johann */~ > 25/26.10.1919 SZ/DZ P.: Johann Hüpfel, Elisabetha Mayer > 4018 > HÜPFEL Johann <4015.1>, Musikant, S.v. H. Jakob und NEUMAYER Eva */~ > 27/30.09.1900 SZ/DZ > vh K 18.06.1925 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Josef Wagner, Anton Strobl) > BOCKMÜLLER Maria Anna <1092.3>, T.v. B. Nikolaus und LICHTFUß > Katharina */~ 09/10.07.1902 SZ/DZ 1. Jakob Johann */~ 16/23.08.1925 DZ > 2. Eva */~ 21/28.02.1929 SZ/DZ P.: Franz Hüpfel, Eva Bauer (geb. > Bockmüller) > Firmung am 11.05.1938 > 4019 > HÜPFEL Franz <4015.3>, S.v. H. Jakob und NEUMAYER Eva */~ > 20/26.05.1912 DZ vh K 16.06.1935 DZ (ledig, ledig, TZ Nikolaus > Feuerholz, Mathias Ludwig, Anton Spengler) SEHR Magdalena <10146.3>, > T.v. S. Anton und FEUERHOLZ Anna */~ 05/06.12.1914 DZ 1. Jakob */~ > 09/13.06.1937 DZ +/bgr 27/29.09.1937 DZ P.: Jakob sehr, Eva Hüpfel 2. > Johann */~ 20/29.10.1939 DZ P.: > Johann Hüpfel, Maria Mayer > 3. Maria */~ 11/17.05.1942 DZ P.: Josef Sehr, Johann Hüpfel, Maria > Wagner (geb. Vichnal) <842> > > > Fran Matkovich > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Clark > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 8:20 AM > To: Maria Moore ; [email protected] ; > [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Adam FOHS & Family from Nagykikinda > > Hello, > > In the Grabatz book, I suspect HIPFEL has an alternate spelling of > HŰPFEL. > > There are a couple of Josef born in 1881, but I didn't see one with a > matching birthday on 25 Feb 1881. I might have overlooked it, but > others might check under the alternate spelling. > > Paul Quentin Clark > > > > ________________________________ > From: Maria Moore <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; > "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:41 PM > Subject: [BANAT-L] Adam FOHS & Family from Nagykikinda > > > I am new to the list and looking for information on my Grandparents > from the Banat. What information I have on them from Hungary is from > family stories and documents that my father had. I have not been able > to find anything on them in any other records or indexes. I have not > been able to verify the names of my Great Grandparents or go back any > further - I have hit a brick wall. Any information anyone can provide > or point me in the right direction is greatly appreciated. > > Catherine ROTH had a father or brothers named Anthony ROTH and Pal ROTH. > > Adam FOHS & Catherine ROTH had: > > * Elizabeth FOHS b. 1883 in Nagykikinda, Hungary > > * Adam FOHS b. 6 Nov 1889 in Nagykikinda, Hungary m. Magdalena KNAB > 1Jan1918 in Chicago, IL. Adam left Bremen on 11Sep1912 aboard the S.S. > Konigin Luise. > > Starting at the age of 14, Adam spent his 4-year apprenticeship under > master ropemaker Pal ROTH at Nagykikinda, Hungary from 1 March 1904 to > 1 March > 1908 > as an apprentice studying the craft of ropemaking. > > Juszt KNAB & Maria RECZLER had: > > * Magdalena KNAB b. 24 Dec 1879 in Seultour, Hungary m. Josef Klar > (b. about 1881) in1902. She was baptized Catholic at Saint-Hubert. > Magdalena arrived in New York on 16Oct1907 aboard the Barbarossa. They > divorced or Josef died. > > > Magdalena KLAR & Josef KLAR had: > > * Elizabeth KLAR b. 10Sep1903 in Yugoslavia. > > Josef HIPFEL b. 25Feb1881 in Grabatz, Hungary m. Elizabeth FOHS in 1900. > > Josef HIPFEL & Elizabeth FOHS had: > > * Teresa A. HIPFEL b. 28Aug1901 in Hungary > > * Elizabeth HIPFEL b. 1Jul1905 in Hungary > > * > Joseph A. HIPFEL b. 19May1906 in Hungary > > Thanks, > Maria Moore > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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