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    1. [BANAT-L] January Marriages / Notes on Cemeteries
    2. Marlene Perrucci
    3. I am a new subscriber, so not sure of the correct protocol to respond. I am very fortunate to still have my great aunt (97) and mom (87) alive to help with my research. They are from Tschesterek, and I went back with my mom in July 2012. Second (and third) marriages were quickly arranged after the death of a spouse to ensure that the children and household could be maintained. Most men worked as farmers, so they needed someone at home to tend to the children, garden, cook. Most widows did not have the financial resources to live alone after their husband died. Why in January? According to my mom, when her parents were married (1925) it was still more likely for people to marry during the winter months as the outside work was less. She's not sure why January was more prevalent for second / third marriages, unless people waited until after the holidays. Re:Cemeteries. There were 2 cemeteries in Tschesterek, and my mother recalls very clearly where her family members were buried in both. The first one was located right at the edge of town, and when we walked through the brush, we couldn't find any traces of a cemetery. The second location still had stones and plots, but most were destroyed. We found out from one of the residents that we spoke with that the headstones were ground up to use in paving the roads. It was a very emotional journey for my mom. Marlene Perrucci Chicago Area Message: 4 Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 18:53:21 -0500 From: Eileen & George <[email protected]> Subject: [BANAT-L] January Marriages To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Dear List: Recently in reading more thoroughly through the Sackelhausen Familienbuch something interesting came to light. For the surnames I was searching, there seemed to be an abnormal number of second, and third, marriages in January. Rarely was there was a lapse of more than a year. Generally these marriages were the January immediately following the death of a spouse. Can someone explain? Eileen Lund-Johnson Minnesota

    04/25/2014 01:00:20
    1. Re: [BANAT-L] January Marriages / Notes on Cemeteries
    2. Susan Sander
    3. Another possible reason for January weddings was that weddings were not permitted during Advent or Lent. Advent is the period before Christmas and Lent occurs prior to Easter. So January, February and part of March would be acceptable to the church. Just another idea. Susan > Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 07:00:20 -0500 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [BANAT-L] January Marriages / Notes on Cemeteries > > I am a new subscriber, so not sure of the correct protocol to respond. > > I am very fortunate to still have my great aunt (97) and mom (87) alive to > help with my research. They are from Tschesterek, and I went back with my > mom in July 2012. > > Second (and third) marriages were quickly arranged after the death of a > spouse to ensure that the children and household could be maintained. Most > men worked as farmers, so they needed someone at home to tend to the > children, garden, cook. Most widows did not have the financial resources to > live alone after their husband died. > > Why in January? According to my mom, when her parents were married (1925) > it was still more likely for people to marry during the winter months as > the outside work was less. She's not sure why January was more prevalent > for second / third marriages, unless people waited until after the holidays. > > Re:Cemeteries. > > There were 2 cemeteries in Tschesterek, and my mother recalls very clearly > where her family members were buried in both. The first one was located > right at the edge of town, and when we walked through the brush, we > couldn't find any traces of a cemetery. The second location still had > stones and plots, but most were destroyed. We found out from one of the > residents that we spoke with that the headstones were ground up to use in > paving the roads. It was a very emotional journey for my mom. > > Marlene Perrucci > Chicago Area > > > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 18:53:21 -0500 > From: Eileen & George <[email protected]> > Subject: [BANAT-L] January Marriages > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Dear List: > > Recently in reading more thoroughly through the Sackelhausen > Familienbuch something interesting came to light. For the surnames I was > searching, there seemed to be an abnormal number of second, and third, > marriages in January. Rarely was there was a lapse of more than a year. > Generally these marriages were the January immediately following the > death of a spouse. > > Can someone explain? > > Eileen Lund-Johnson > Minnesota > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/25/2014 12:15:03
    1. Re: [BANAT-L] January Marriages / Notes on Cemeteries
    2. Henry Fischer
    3. Dear Susan, The reason is much simpler. It was the only time of the year when work did not pre-occupy everyone day and night. It was the farmer's "leisure" time of the year and the time for slaughtering swine before Christmas and after New Year for the wedding celebrations. They made the most of it and that is why the weddings lasted several days with each day having significant meaning with special food and dances. Our village tradition that originated in Upper Hessen included the Bretzlbaum dance and the Strudel Walzer danced only by the women. I'm afraid our weddings are a poor substitute although in my childhood growing up in Canada the early immigrants like my parents who arrived in the 1920s still had two and three day wedding celebrations. What a time we kids had... Henry Fischer -----Original Message----- From: Susan Sander Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 6:15 PM To: Marlene Perrucci ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] January Marriages / Notes on Cemeteries Another possible reason for January weddings was that weddings were not permitted during Advent or Lent. Advent is the period before Christmas and Lent occurs prior to Easter. So January, February and part of March would be acceptable to the church. Just another idea. Susan > Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 07:00:20 -0500 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [BANAT-L] January Marriages / Notes on Cemeteries > > I am a new subscriber, so not sure of the correct protocol to respond. > > I am very fortunate to still have my great aunt (97) and mom (87) alive to > help with my research. They are from Tschesterek, and I went back with my > mom in July 2012. > > Second (and third) marriages were quickly arranged after the death of a > spouse to ensure that the children and household could be maintained. Most > men worked as farmers, so they needed someone at home to tend to the > children, garden, cook. Most widows did not have the financial resources > to > live alone after their husband died. > > Why in January? According to my mom, when her parents were married (1925) > it was still more likely for people to marry during the winter months as > the outside work was less. She's not sure why January was more prevalent > for second / third marriages, unless people waited until after the > holidays. > > Re:Cemeteries. > > There were 2 cemeteries in Tschesterek, and my mother recalls very clearly > where her family members were buried in both. The first one was located > right at the edge of town, and when we walked through the brush, we > couldn't find any traces of a cemetery. The second location still had > stones and plots, but most were destroyed. We found out from one of the > residents that we spoke with that the headstones were ground up to use in > paving the roads. It was a very emotional journey for my mom. > > Marlene Perrucci > Chicago Area > > > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 18:53:21 -0500 > From: Eileen & George <[email protected]> > Subject: [BANAT-L] January Marriages > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Dear List: > > Recently in reading more thoroughly through the Sackelhausen > Familienbuch something interesting came to light. For the surnames I was > searching, there seemed to be an abnormal number of second, and third, > marriages in January. Rarely was there was a lapse of more than a year. > Generally these marriages were the January immediately following the > death of a spouse. > > Can someone explain? > > Eileen Lund-Johnson > Minnesota > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/25/2014 02:51:30
    1. Re: [BANAT-L] January Marriages / Notes on Cemeteries
    2. Edward J. Lowitz
    3. Is that documented anywhere? I am Catholic (Philadelphia) and have never heard of any restrictions on getting married during Advent or Lent. Then again, I remember when there was the Great Debate of Women Wearing Hats in Church - turned out to be 'tradition' not 'dogma'. I did a search on 'weddings during Advent' and the closest thing I could find was a reference on the Diocese of Orlando's website: http://www.orlandodiocese.org/liturgy-advent-a-christmas-guidelines that said : "Marriages during the Seasons of Advent and Christmas No prohibitions are prescribed which limit the celebration of the Sacrament of Marriage during the Advent and Christmas Seasons. The Sundays and Solemnities of the Seasons would restrict the use of the Nuptial Mass and readings. (RM 11) White vestments are used for marriages. The Penitential Act is omitted and the "Glory to God" is sung." The Episcopal Diocese of New York says: "Seasons for Marriages Marriages are not traditionally celebrated in Advent and in Lent because these are penitential seasons during which times festal liturgies, such as weddings, are not appropriate. Diocesan policy is that weddings during Advent or Lent should only happen in the case of serious, pressing, compelling pastoral need." http://www.dioceseny.org/pages/75-weddings-and-funerals Neither of these are in the Banat prior to the 20th Century so does anyone have documentation substantiating this? Ed. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Susan Sander Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 6:15 PM To: Marlene Perrucci; [email protected] Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] January Marriages / Notes on Cemeteries Another possible reason for January weddings was that weddings were not permitted during Advent or Lent. Advent is the period before Christmas and Lent occurs prior to Easter. So January, February and part of March would be acceptable to the church. Just another idea. Susan > Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 07:00:20 -0500 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [BANAT-L] January Marriages / Notes on Cemeteries > > I am a new subscriber, so not sure of the correct protocol to respond. > > I am very fortunate to still have my great aunt (97) and mom (87) > alive to help with my research. They are from Tschesterek, and I went > back with my mom in July 2012. > > Second (and third) marriages were quickly arranged after the death of > a spouse to ensure that the children and household could be > maintained. Most men worked as farmers, so they needed someone at home > to tend to the children, garden, cook. Most widows did not have the > financial resources to live alone after their husband died. > > Why in January? According to my mom, when her parents were married > (1925) it was still more likely for people to marry during the winter > months as the outside work was less. She's not sure why January was > more prevalent for second / third marriages, unless people waited until after the holidays. > > Re:Cemeteries. > > There were 2 cemeteries in Tschesterek, and my mother recalls very > clearly where her family members were buried in both. The first one > was located right at the edge of town, and when we walked through the > brush, we couldn't find any traces of a cemetery. The second location > still had stones and plots, but most were destroyed. We found out from > one of the residents that we spoke with that the headstones were > ground up to use in paving the roads. It was a very emotional journey for my mom. > > Marlene Perrucci > Chicago Area > > > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 18:53:21 -0500 > From: Eileen & George <[email protected]> > Subject: [BANAT-L] January Marriages > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Dear List: > > Recently in reading more thoroughly through the Sackelhausen > Familienbuch something interesting came to light. For the surnames I > was searching, there seemed to be an abnormal number of second, and > third, marriages in January. Rarely was there was a lapse of more than a year. > Generally these marriages were the January immediately following the > death of a spouse. > > Can someone explain? > > Eileen Lund-Johnson > Minnesota > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/25/2014 02:55:51
    1. Re: [BANAT-L] January Marriages / Notes on Cemeteries
    2. Paul Clark
    3. Hello, I'm catholic and got married during Lent near Dallas, Texas. It depends where you live whether or not the priest/bishops are willing to allow marriages during those times of the year. pq ________________________________ From: Edward J. Lowitz <[email protected]> To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] January Marriages / Notes on Cemeteries Is that documented anywhere?  I am Catholic (Philadelphia) and have never heard of any restrictions on getting married during Advent or Lent.  Then again, I remember when there was the Great Debate of Women Wearing Hats in Church - turned out to be 'tradition' not 'dogma'. I did a search on 'weddings during Advent' and the closest thing I could find was a reference on the Diocese of Orlando's website: http://www.orlandodiocese.org/liturgy-advent-a-christmas-guidelines that said : "Marriages during the Seasons of Advent and Christmas No prohibitions are prescribed which limit the celebration of the Sacrament of Marriage during the Advent and Christmas Seasons. The Sundays and Solemnities of the Seasons would restrict the use of the Nuptial Mass and readings. (RM 11) White vestments are used for marriages. The Penitential Act is omitted and the "Glory to God" is sung." The Episcopal Diocese of New York says: "Seasons for Marriages Marriages are not traditionally celebrated in Advent and in Lent because these are penitential seasons during which times festal liturgies, such as weddings, are not appropriate. Diocesan policy is that weddings during Advent or Lent should only happen in the case of serious, pressing, compelling pastoral need." http://www.dioceseny.org/pages/75-weddings-and-funerals Neither of these are in the Banat prior to the 20th Century so does anyone have documentation substantiating this? Ed. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Susan Sander Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 6:15 PM To: Marlene Perrucci; [email protected] Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] January Marriages / Notes on Cemeteries Another possible reason for January weddings was that weddings were not permitted during Advent or Lent.    Advent is the period before Christmas and Lent occurs prior to Easter.    So January, February and part of March would be acceptable to the church. Just another idea.  Susan > Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 07:00:20 -0500 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [BANAT-L] January Marriages / Notes on Cemeteries > > I am a new subscriber, so not sure of the correct protocol to respond. > > I am very fortunate to still have my great aunt (97) and mom (87) > alive to help with my research. They are from Tschesterek, and I went > back with my mom in July 2012. > > Second (and third) marriages were quickly arranged after the death of > a spouse to ensure that the children and household could be > maintained. Most men worked as farmers, so they needed someone at home > to tend to the children, garden, cook. Most widows did not have the > financial resources to live alone after their husband died. > > Why in January? According to my mom, when her parents were married > (1925) it was still more likely for people to marry during the winter > months as the outside work was less. She's not sure why January was > more prevalent for second / third marriages, unless people waited until after the holidays. > > Re:Cemeteries. > > There were 2 cemeteries in Tschesterek, and my mother recalls very > clearly where her family members were buried in both. The first one > was located right at the edge of town, and when we walked through the > brush, we couldn't find any traces of a cemetery. The second location > still had stones and plots, but most were destroyed. We found out from > one of the residents that we spoke with that the headstones were > ground up to use in paving the roads. It was a very emotional journey for my mom. > > Marlene Perrucci > Chicago Area > > > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 18:53:21 -0500 > From: Eileen & George <[email protected]> > Subject: [BANAT-L] January Marriages > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Dear List: > > Recently in reading more thoroughly through the Sackelhausen > Familienbuch something interesting came to light. For the surnames I > was searching, there seemed to be an abnormal number of second, and > third, marriages in January. Rarely was there was a lapse of more than a year. > Generally these marriages were the January immediately following the > death of a spouse. > > Can someone explain? > > Eileen Lund-Johnson > Minnesota >  > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message                         ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/26/2014 04:37:04
    1. Re: [BANAT-L] January Marriages / Notes on Cemeteries
    2. Edward J. Lowitz
    3. Here in Zone 7 (USA), the last frost date is April 15th. Easy to remember as it is tax day. That started me wondering about the last frost date in the Banat area and maybe if that tied into Lent. The Utah Climate Center (Utah State University) gives last frost dates for various countries including Romania: http://climate.usurf.usu.edu/reports/freezeDates.php?ntwk=GHCN&sSubmit=Selec t&acronym=RO&sSubmit=Select&g_state=UT Arad's earliest last spring freeze date is Feb 23rd. Some places were later, some were a little earlier. Ash Wednesday can be as early as Feb 4th and as late as Mar 10th. As Lent is starting up, so is planting time when you don't want to get married and don't have the time to party. Perhaps it is not a Church prohibition against getting married during Lent rather that it coincides with planting time. "Don't get married during Lent! That's planting time!" Ed. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Clark Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 1:37 PM To: '[email protected]' Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] January Marriages / Notes on Cemeteries Hello, I'm catholic and got married during Lent near Dallas, Texas. It depends where you live whether or not the priest/bishops are willing to allow marriages during those times of the year. pq ________________________________ From: Edward J. Lowitz <[email protected]> To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] January Marriages / Notes on Cemeteries Is that documented anywhere?  I am Catholic (Philadelphia) and have never heard of any restrictions on getting married during Advent or Lent.  Then again, I remember when there was the Great Debate of Women Wearing Hats in Church - turned out to be 'tradition' not 'dogma'. I did a search on 'weddings during Advent' and the closest thing I could find was a reference on the Diocese of Orlando's website: http://www.orlandodiocese.org/liturgy-advent-a-christmas-guidelines that said : "Marriages during the Seasons of Advent and Christmas No prohibitions are prescribed which limit the celebration of the Sacrament of Marriage during the Advent and Christmas Seasons. The Sundays and Solemnities of the Seasons would restrict the use of the Nuptial Mass and readings. (RM 11) White vestments are used for marriages. The Penitential Act is omitted and the "Glory to God" is sung." The Episcopal Diocese of New York says: "Seasons for Marriages Marriages are not traditionally celebrated in Advent and in Lent because these are penitential seasons during which times festal liturgies, such as weddings, are not appropriate. Diocesan policy is that weddings during Advent or Lent should only happen in the case of serious, pressing, compelling pastoral need." http://www.dioceseny.org/pages/75-weddings-and-funerals Neither of these are in the Banat prior to the 20th Century so does anyone have documentation substantiating this? Ed. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Susan Sander Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 6:15 PM To: Marlene Perrucci; [email protected] Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] January Marriages / Notes on Cemeteries Another possible reason for January weddings was that weddings were not permitted during Advent or Lent.    Advent is the period before Christmas and Lent occurs prior to Easter.    So January, February and part of March would be acceptable to the church. Just another idea.  Susan > Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 07:00:20 -0500 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [BANAT-L] January Marriages / Notes on Cemeteries > > I am a new subscriber, so not sure of the correct protocol to respond. > > I am very fortunate to still have my great aunt (97) and mom (87) > alive to help with my research. They are from Tschesterek, and I went > back with my mom in July 2012. > > Second (and third) marriages were quickly arranged after the death of > a spouse to ensure that the children and household could be > maintained. Most men worked as farmers, so they needed someone at home > to tend to the children, garden, cook. Most widows did not have the > financial resources to live alone after their husband died. > > Why in January? According to my mom, when her parents were married > (1925) it was still more likely for people to marry during the winter > months as the outside work was less. She's not sure why January was > more prevalent for second / third marriages, unless people waited until after the holidays. > > Re:Cemeteries. > > There were 2 cemeteries in Tschesterek, and my mother recalls very > clearly where her family members were buried in both. The first one > was located right at the edge of town, and when we walked through the > brush, we couldn't find any traces of a cemetery. The second location > still had stones and plots, but most were destroyed. We found out from > one of the residents that we spoke with that the headstones were > ground up to use in paving the roads. It was a very emotional journey for my mom. > > Marlene Perrucci > Chicago Area > > > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 18:53:21 -0500 > From: Eileen & George <[email protected]> > Subject: [BANAT-L] January Marriages > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Dear List: > > Recently in reading more thoroughly through the Sackelhausen > Familienbuch something interesting came to light. For the surnames I > was searching, there seemed to be an abnormal number of second, and > third, marriages in January. Rarely was there was a lapse of more than a year. > Generally these marriages were the January immediately following the > death of a spouse. > > Can someone explain? > > Eileen Lund-Johnson > Minnesota >  > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message                         ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/26/2014 08:16:43
    1. Re: [BANAT-L] January Marriages / Notes on Cemeteries
    2. In Glogowatz and Neupanat the busiest months for first marriages seemed to be 1. January and 2, November. Those would be when work was the least and did not interfere with Christmas. If young children were involved, subsequent marriages were quite soon after the death of the spouse. This was a necessity in a predominantly agricultural community. There were no nursery schools and no microwave meals--we're talking about meals made from "scratch" on wood stoves. Being a mother and housewife was more than a full time job. George -----Original Message----- From: Susan Sander <[email protected]> To: Marlene Perrucci <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Apr 25, 2014 5:22 pm Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] January Marriages / Notes on Cemeteries Another possible reason for January weddings was that weddings were not permitted during Advent or Lent. Advent is the period before Christmas and Lent occurs prior to Easter. So January, February and part of March would be acceptable to the church. Just another idea. Susan > Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 07:00:20 -0500 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [BANAT-L] January Marriages / Notes on Cemeteries > > I am a new subscriber, so not sure of the correct protocol to respond. > > I am very fortunate to still have my great aunt (97) and mom (87) alive to > help with my research. They are from Tschesterek, and I went back with my > mom in July 2012. > > Second (and third) marriages were quickly arranged after the death of a > spouse to ensure that the children and household could be maintained. Most > men worked as farmers, so they needed someone at home to tend to the > children, garden, cook. Most widows did not have the financial resources to > live alone after their husband died. > > Why in January? According to my mom, when her parents were married (1925) > it was still more likely for people to marry during the winter months as > the outside work was less. She's not sure why January was more prevalent > for second / third marriages, unless people waited until after the holidays. > > Re:Cemeteries. > > There were 2 cemeteries in Tschesterek, and my mother recalls very clearly > where her family members were buried in both. The first one was located > right at the edge of town, and when we walked through the brush, we > couldn't find any traces of a cemetery. The second location still had > stones and plots, but most were destroyed. We found out from one of the > residents that we spoke with that the headstones were ground up to use in > paving the roads. It was a very emotional journey for my mom. > > Marlene Perrucci > Chicago Area > > > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 18:53:21 -0500 > From: Eileen & George <[email protected]> > Subject: [BANAT-L] January Marriages > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Dear List: > > Recently in reading more thoroughly through the Sackelhausen > Familienbuch something interesting came to light. For the surnames I was > searching, there seemed to be an abnormal number of second, and third, > marriages in January. Rarely was there was a lapse of more than a year. > Generally these marriages were the January immediately following the > death of a spouse. > > Can someone explain? > > Eileen Lund-Johnson > Minnesota > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/25/2014 03:35:13
    1. Re: [BANAT-L] January Marriages / Notes on Cemeteries
    2. Eve
    3. My parents were married 2.2.1941 in the former Yugoslavia, mom said they had to be married then or wait till much later because of Lent. Mom wanted to wait but dad didn't and she found out later it was because he was conscripted back into the Yugoslavian Army. My mother thought she was a widow a few months later when my father was in Belgrade during the bombing in April. I wouldn't be here if that was the case though. Eve On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Susan Sander <[email protected]> wrote: > Another possible reason for January weddings was that weddings > were not permitted during Advent or Lent. Advent is the period > before Christmas and Lent occurs prior to Easter. So January, > February and part of March would be acceptable to the church. > Just another idea. Susan > > > Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 07:00:20 -0500 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [BANAT-L] January Marriages / Notes on Cemeteries > > > > I am a new subscriber, so not sure of the correct protocol to respond. > > > > I am very fortunate to still have my great aunt (97) and mom (87) alive > to > > help with my research. They are from Tschesterek, and I went back with my > > mom in July 2012. > > > > Second (and third) marriages were quickly arranged after the death of a > > spouse to ensure that the children and household could be maintained. > Most > > men worked as farmers, so they needed someone at home to tend to the > > children, garden, cook. Most widows did not have the financial resources > to > > live alone after their husband died. > > > > Why in January? According to my mom, when her parents were married (1925) > > it was still more likely for people to marry during the winter months as > > the outside work was less. She's not sure why January was more prevalent > > for second / third marriages, unless people waited until after the > holidays. > > > > Re:Cemeteries. > > > > There were 2 cemeteries in Tschesterek, and my mother recalls very > clearly > > where her family members were buried in both. The first one was located > > right at the edge of town, and when we walked through the brush, we > > couldn't find any traces of a cemetery. The second location still had > > stones and plots, but most were destroyed. We found out from one of the > > residents that we spoke with that the headstones were ground up to use in > > paving the roads. It was a very emotional journey for my mom. > > > > Marlene Perrucci > > Chicago Area > > > > > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 18:53:21 -0500 > > From: Eileen & George <[email protected]> > > Subject: [BANAT-L] January Marriages > > To: [email protected] > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > Dear List: > > > > Recently in reading more thoroughly through the Sackelhausen > > Familienbuch something interesting came to light. For the surnames I was > > searching, there seemed to be an abnormal number of second, and third, > > marriages in January. Rarely was there was a lapse of more than a year. > > Generally these marriages were the January immediately following the > > death of a spouse. > > > > Can someone explain? > > > > Eileen Lund-Johnson > > Minnesota > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Syrmia Regional Coordinator http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia

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