Begin forwarded message: > From: "Dolores J. Barber" <djbarber@earthlink.net> > Date: March 1, 2010 6:15:49 AM CST > To: Uwe Detemple <u.detemple@gmail.com> > Subject: St. Michael's Church Chicago (was: Re: [BANAT-L] [Akdff-l] > STEIN in Giseladorf und Chicago) > > My apologies, Uwe. I did not know there were any others. I was > looking at the wrong one. The good news is that the FHL films for > the right one cover 1856-1973. My grandparents lived in that parish > in 1906 before later moving to St. Alphonsus parish (another German > parish). > > Here is the church's website: > > http://www.st-mikes.org/ > > The FHL entry for the church is: > Catholic Church. St. Michael (Cleveland Avenue, Chicago, Illinois) > > Google Maps may also be of some help to you in looking up addresses. > > All the best, > Dolores > > > On Feb 28, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Uwe Detemple wrote: > >> Dear Dolores, >> >> Thank you for this precious information. But which St. Michael is >> it? There is more than one in the Chicago church record list. >> >> Kind regards, >> Uwe >> >> >> 2010/2/28 Dolores J. Barber <djbarber@earthlink.net> >> 1638 Orchard St. is in St. Michael's parish. The FHL has films for >> the church records from 1903 to 1915. >> >> http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlc/frameset_fhlc.asp >> >> Good luck with your research, Uwe! >> >> Dolores Jungheim Barber >> >> >> >> On Feb 27, 2010, at 2:31 PM, Dave Dreyer wrote: >> >> Uwe; >> Since Chicago was the destination of Elisabeth Stein on her >> passenger ship record I think you can assume that she lived there >> during the entire time of her arrival in 1904 until 1911 at the >> time of the birth of her kid in 1911. If the birth of the first >> kid was registered then it should be in the pilot database. As you >> well know there are almost unlimited ways to spell the surname >> Detemple. I assume you have tried all possibilities but if not you >> must exhaust this approach in the pilot database. The usual >> strategy in such cases is the following. You know the street >> address from the birth record of the second kid. In addition, you >> can get conformation of the street address from the 1910 census. >> One then finds this street, 1638 Orchard St, on a detailed street >> map of Chicago and identifies the Catholic churches in the >> neighborhood. Hopefully there is only one. Then one checks the >> FHL catalogue to see if the records of this church are on microfilm >> in Salt Lake. >> I am no expert on Chicago and undoubtly there are many Banat LIst >> subscribers who know the city well and there would be some who >> could pinpoint the church off the top of their head since the >> Banaters tended to all live in the same neighborhood. >> If the church records are not in Salt Lake then it is a big problem >> and again there may be some Banat list subscribers who have some >> insight on how to access them. >> Dave Dreyer >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Uwe Detemple >> To: Dave Dreyer >> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 6:00 AM >> Subject: Re: [Akdff-l] STEIN in Giseladorf und Chicago >> >> Dave; >> >> Thank your for your information. I am interested in Elisabeth * 26 >> Jan 1884, in Giseladorf?. She is imigrated 1904 in the U.S. She >> married John Ditambel from Billed. When, where? Her second child is >> born on 28.02.1911 in Cook County: http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#searchType >> =standard;surname=Ditambel;p=recordResults. But in which place? And >> the first child? >> >> Maybe you know where to search for more information about this >> familiy? >> >> Thank you. >> Uwe >> >> >> 2010/2/24 Dave Dreyer <ddreyer@pacbell.net> >> >> Uwe; >> There are only a few minor differences from the Giseladorf family >> book. I include these in blue below; >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <Detemple@web.de> >> To: <akdff-l@genealogy.net> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:43 AM >> Subject: [Akdff-l] STEIN in Giseladorf und Chicago >> >> >> Bitte um Entschuldigung für den Datensalat. Hier nun meine >> Anfrage nochmal: >> >> Im Josefsdorf Giseladorf Family Register 1882-1897 von Dave >> Dreyer wird im Teil Giseladorf folgende Familie aufgeführt: >> >> STEIN Josef HN 166 ex Tolvadia >> *1850 +19 Sep 1925 Giseladorf >> oo >> FRANZ Anna ex D Zerne >> *1856 +26 Sep 1914 Giseladorf >> >> 1 Katharine * 1881 + 2 Oct 1891 ex Giselahain >> 2 Elisabeth * 26 Jan 1884 >> 3 Marianna * 22 Jan 1887 >> 4 Anna * 29 Nov 1889 >> 5 Jakob * 6 Aug 1895 HN 151 oo Katharina Krauter *Nitzkydorf >> >> Even though the Giseladorf records says that Anna Franz was born >> in D Zerne she is not listed in the newly published D Zerne >> Familienbuch by H and A Hornung. >> Josef Michels is working on a new edition of the Giseladorf >> family book-----perhaps he will have additional data in it when it >> is published. >> Dave Dreyer >> >> >> Elisabeth wandert 1904 in die USA aus: STEIN Elisabeth [S350]- >> Age: 19 -From: Giseladorf -DtAr: Sunday, 17 Jul 1904 - To: >> Chicago, IL -Via: Ham/NY -Ship: Graf Waldersee -Note: [*26 Jan >> 1884, dau of Josef Stein and Anna Franz] (Dave Dreyer http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~banatdata/DDB/ByVillage/Giseladorf.htm) >> . >> >> Dem Ehepaar Elisabeth Stein aus Gisellafalva und John Ditambel >> aus Billet, wird am 28.02.1911 im Cook County (wahrscheinlich in >> Chicago) ein Kind geboren (es ist das zweite Kind). Das Alter der >> Mutter wird mit 26 angegeben. Das würde zu Elisabeth aus obiger >> Familie passen. >> >> Lassen sich diese Angaben aus dem später erschienenen >> Familienbuch der katholischen Pfarrgemeinde Giseladorf und Panjowa >> von Nikolaus Schramm ergänzen? >> >> Danke für eure Hilfe. >> >> Uwe (Detemple) >> >> >