The Chicago Banaters came through in a most impressive way with the necessary information to solve Uwe's problem. I am encouraged by these results to post several similar problems which have been sitting in my in-box for awhile. Perhaps, there are list subscribers who have some insight to a solution of these additional problems. First problem; Helwig Lowasz is looking for decendents of Halsdorfers who were from Mortizfeld/Banat and who settled in Buffalo NY. She would also be interested in any family trees of Halsdorfers which may have been compiled. Her message is posted below. ----- Original Message ----- From: Hedwig Lowasz To: ddreyer@pacbell.net Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 9:02 AM Subject: Halsdorfer Sehr geehrter Herr Dreyer. ich kenne die Dreyer lists- Publikationen und wende mich auf der Suche nach meinen Vorfahren" Michael Halsdorfer und Peter Halsdorfer( 1760- 1838 in Moritzfeld/ Banat und ( 1769- 1836 in Moritzfeld gestorben) an Sie. 1905 sind einige Halsdorfer nach Amerika ausgewandert. Einige befinden sich in Buffallo. Nun meine Frage an sie: gibt es in denn veröffentliche Stammbäume zu deren Vorfahren oder könnten Sie den Kontakt zu denen herstellen? Die Halsdorfer kommen aus dem Trierischen, aber ich suche vergeblich nach Spuren. Mit freundlichen Grüssen aus dem Westerwald im Rheinland- Hedwig Lowasz Second Problem Ruediger Langermann is looking for decendents of Christian Noxel, wife Mena, who are in the 1861 Canadian census, living in Welland Canada. He can be contacted at; Rüdiger Langermann. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dolores J. Barber" <djbarber@earthlink.net> To: <akdff-l@genealogy.net>; "BANAT-L BANAT-L" <banat@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 4:18 AM Subject: [BANAT-L] Fwd: St. Michael's Church Chicago (was: Re: [Akdff-l]STEIN in Giseladorf und Chicago) Begin forwarded message: > From: "Dolores J. Barber" <djbarber@earthlink.net> > Date: March 1, 2010 6:15:49 AM CST > To: Uwe Detemple <u.detemple@gmail.com> > Subject: St. Michael's Church Chicago (was: Re: [BANAT-L] [Akdff-l] > STEIN in Giseladorf und Chicago) > > My apologies, Uwe. I did not know there were any others. I was > looking at the wrong one. The good news is that the FHL films for > the right one cover 1856-1973. My grandparents lived in that parish > in 1906 before later moving to St. Alphonsus parish (another German > parish). > > Here is the church's website: > > http://www.st-mikes.org/ > > The FHL entry for the church is: > Catholic Church. St. Michael (Cleveland Avenue, Chicago, Illinois) > > Google Maps may also be of some help to you in looking up addresses. > > All the best, > Dolores > > > On Feb 28, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Uwe Detemple wrote: > >> Dear Dolores, >> >> Thank you for this precious information. But which St. Michael is >> it? There is more than one in the Chicago church record list. >> >> Kind regards, >> Uwe >> >> >> 2010/2/28 Dolores J. Barber <djbarber@earthlink.net> >> 1638 Orchard St. is in St. Michael's parish. The FHL has films for >> the church records from 1903 to 1915. >> >> http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlc/frameset_fhlc.asp >> >> Good luck with your research, Uwe! >> >> Dolores Jungheim Barber >> >> >> >> On Feb 27, 2010, at 2:31 PM, Dave Dreyer wrote: >> >> Uwe; >> Since Chicago was the destination of Elisabeth Stein on her >> passenger ship record I think you can assume that she lived there >> during the entire time of her arrival in 1904 until 1911 at the >> time of the birth of her kid in 1911. If the birth of the first >> kid was registered then it should be in the pilot database. As you >> well know there are almost unlimited ways to spell the surname >> Detemple. I assume you have tried all possibilities but if not you >> must exhaust this approach in the pilot database. The usual >> strategy in such cases is the following. You know the street >> address from the birth record of the second kid. In addition, you >> can get conformation of the street address from the 1910 census. >> One then finds this street, 1638 Orchard St, on a detailed street >> map of Chicago and identifies the Catholic churches in the >> neighborhood. Hopefully there is only one. Then one checks the >> FHL catalogue to see if the records of this church are on microfilm >> in Salt Lake. >> I am no expert on Chicago and undoubtly there are many Banat LIst >> subscribers who know the city well and there would be some who >> could pinpoint the church off the top of their head since the >> Banaters tended to all live in the same neighborhood. >> If the church records are not in Salt Lake then it is a big problem >> and again there may be some Banat list subscribers who have some >> insight on how to access them. >> Dave Dreyer >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Uwe Detemple >> To: Dave Dreyer >> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 6:00 AM >> Subject: Re: [Akdff-l] STEIN in Giseladorf und Chicago >> >> Dave; >> >> Thank your for your information. I am interested in Elisabeth * 26 >> Jan 1884, in Giseladorf?. She is imigrated 1904 in the U.S. She >> married John Ditambel from Billed. When, where? Her second child is >> born on 28.02.1911 in Cook County: >> http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#searchType >> =standard;surname=Ditambel;p=recordResults. But in which place? And >> the first child? >> >> Maybe you know where to search for more information about this >> familiy? >> >> Thank you. >> Uwe >> >> >> 2010/2/24 Dave Dreyer <ddreyer@pacbell.net> >> >> Uwe; >> There are only a few minor differences from the Giseladorf family >> book. I include these in blue below; >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <Detemple@web.de> >> To: <akdff-l@genealogy.net> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:43 AM >> Subject: [Akdff-l] STEIN in Giseladorf und Chicago >> >> >> Bitte um Entschuldigung für den Datensalat. Hier nun meine >> Anfrage nochmal: >> >> Im Josefsdorf Giseladorf Family Register 1882-1897 von Dave >> Dreyer wird im Teil Giseladorf folgende Familie aufgeführt: >> >> STEIN Josef HN 166 ex Tolvadia >> *1850 +19 Sep 1925 Giseladorf >> oo >> FRANZ Anna ex D Zerne >> *1856 +26 Sep 1914 Giseladorf >> >> 1 Katharine * 1881 + 2 Oct 1891 ex Giselahain >> 2 Elisabeth * 26 Jan 1884 >> 3 Marianna * 22 Jan 1887 >> 4 Anna * 29 Nov 1889 >> 5 Jakob * 6 Aug 1895 HN 151 oo Katharina Krauter *Nitzkydorf >> >> Even though the Giseladorf records says that Anna Franz was born >> in D Zerne she is not listed in the newly published D Zerne >> Familienbuch by H and A Hornung. >> Josef Michels is working on a new edition of the Giseladorf >> family book-----perhaps he will have additional data in it when it >> is published. >> Dave Dreyer >> >> >> Elisabeth wandert 1904 in die USA aus: STEIN Elisabeth [S350]- >> Age: 19 -From: Giseladorf -DtAr: Sunday, 17 Jul 1904 - To: >> Chicago, IL -Via: Ham/NY -Ship: Graf Waldersee -Note: [*26 Jan >> 1884, dau of Josef Stein and Anna Franz] (Dave Dreyer >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~banatdata/DDB/ByVillage/Giseladorf.htm) >> . >> >> Dem Ehepaar Elisabeth Stein aus Gisellafalva und John Ditambel >> aus Billet, wird am 28.02.1911 im Cook County (wahrscheinlich in >> Chicago) ein Kind geboren (es ist das zweite Kind). Das Alter der >> Mutter wird mit 26 angegeben. Das würde zu Elisabeth aus obiger >> Familie passen. >> >> Lassen sich diese Angaben aus dem später erschienenen >> Familienbuch der katholischen Pfarrgemeinde Giseladorf und Panjowa >> von Nikolaus Schramm ergänzen? >> >> Danke für eure Hilfe. >> >> Uwe (Detemple) >> >> > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message