Betty, The Gross Jetscha book and Ujvar,Uiwar book have Kotzian, but no Valentin. Regards, Helen Dubas -----Original Message----- From: banat-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:banat-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of banat-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 3:02 AM To: banat@rootsweb.com Subject: BANAT Digest, Vol 5, Issue 1 Today's Topics: 1. Re: DILL in Hatzfeld book (steve remsing) 2. Familienbuch Deutsch Zerne (CG Junkers) 3. Kotzian (Betty Mauro) 4. Need help with Roszler/Roesler Family (Wai057@aol.com) 5. Re: Kotzian (Harold Bratsko) 6. Re: Kotzian (Dave Dreyer) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 03:45:57 -0800 (PST) From: steve remsing <jsremsing@att.net> Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] DILL in Hatzfeld book To: banat@rootsweb.com, Charlie Tiller <charlietiller@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <534214.63443.qm@web180215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I feel exactlhy the same way Charlie ! ? Steve Remsing --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Charlie Tiller <charlietiller@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Charlie Tiller <charlietiller@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] DILL in Hatzfeld book To: banat@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 9:09 PM Marilyn et al, I am very delinquent in following up on the post below about Dill.? I have long wondered if there is any connection between my Tiller ancestors and the various Dill, Till, and Thiel families in the Hatzfeld and Zerne area.? I'm hoping the new Deutsch-Zerne family book will help clarify some of the missing connections in about 1850-1880.? The excitement of waiting for this make-or-break resource to arrive is not quite keeping me up at night, but it's not far off.? All will be revealed in due course - if it's at all revealable. Regards, Charlie Tiller St. Paul, MN > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:38:53 -0500 > From: Marilyn Fedewa <mhfedewa@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] DILL in Hatzfeld book > To: banat@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <d69565560911251538u6e0b96ceo73f927cbf30b25f7@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > It was heartening to see the Dill references for Hatzfeld! Might Fran or > another kind soul be able to tell me if there is a Mary DILL / Till / Thiel, > etc there? She is my great grandmother, married to Konrad HEH / Hoh / Hob > and based on the age of their eldest child she may have been born in the > 1860 range, give or take. Their family ultimately wound up in Ernsthausen, > as told by my grandfather, but I have been unable to find them in any Banat > records. > > Many many thanks! > Marilyn > On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 3:01 AM, <banat-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > ??? ???????? ?????? ??? ? _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft?s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:22:42 +0100 From: CG Junkers <CGJunkers@web.de> Subject: [BANAT-L] Familienbuch Deutsch Zerne To: akdff-L@genealogy.net, banat-L@rootsweb.com, nikhorn@gmx.de Message-ID: <1276161548@web.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Weitergeleitet von Nikolaus Horn <nikhorn@gmx.de> Verehrte Listenteilnehmerinnen, ehrenwerte Listenteilnehmer! Der guten Freunde und der guten W?nsche kann man nie genug haben. Deshalb w?nsche ich allen einen guten Rutsch in ein gutes, gl?ckliches Jahr, jeden Tag eine kleine Freude und ab und zu ein gr??res Gl?ck. Der Familienforscher, der Suchende, braucht eine gl?ckliche Hand und zutreffende Hinweise. Wie w?re es mit dem Familienbuch der katholischen Pfarrgemeinde DEUTSCH ZERNE im BANAT Deutsch Cernya, Nemet-Czernya, Nemetczernya, Nemacka-Crnja, 1808-1918/1946 auf der Grundlage der Kirchenb?cher von Deutsch Zerne mit Serbisch Zerne und Tomsdorf-Hettin, Schriftenreihe zur donauschw?bischen Herkunftsforschung, Deutsche Ortssippenb?cher Band B 470, von Helge und Anton Hornung, hrsg. von der Arbeitsgemeinschaft f?r Ver?ffentlichung Banater Familienb?cher - AVBF Villingen-Schwenningen 2009, 2 Bde., 878 + 808 Seiten, Hardcover, farbig, Format: 148 x 210 mm, 2 Karten, eine mehrfarbig, Ortsplan, Preis ? 65.- zzgl. Versandkosten. Bemerkung. Zur Pfarrgemeinde geh?rten die Meierh?fe (Csekonics-Dom?nen): Julia-Major, Endre-Major, Constancia-Major, Sziget-Mii|oi. Sz?ll?s-Major, Klein-Rokus-Major, Leona-Major, Sandor-Major, Margithaza, Klein-Julia-Major, Fasanenhof. Bezug in Europa ab 04.01.2010: Philipp Lung, Schwarzaweg 18, D-78054 Villingen-Schweningen, Tel: (07720) 3 38 90, E-Mail: philipp.lung@t-online.de Bezug in den USA ab Jan. 2010: Dave Dreyer, 808 N Claremont, San Mateo, California 94401, Tel: 650 348 6518, E-Mail: ddreyer@pacbell.net Nikolaus Horn ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:17:59 -0500 From: fmauro@webtv.net (Betty Mauro) Subject: [BANAT-L] Kotzian To: BANAT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <10290-4B3CDCC7-47@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII I am trying to locate the name of the town for a Valentin Kotzian. He was born about 1843??? This is all the information I have on him. I would appreciate anyone with a family book. PLEASE do a look up for me. Thank you in advance. Betty ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:49:35 EST From: Wai057@aol.com Subject: [BANAT-L] Need help with Roszler/Roesler Family To: banat-l@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <beb.59085da1.386e685f@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I am trying to help someone find their family. Listed below is the pertinent information I have found. I would appreciate any help anyone can give. Katalin Roszler , age 33 (maiden name was Urich) (probably born in 1869) (with children Valentin and Istvan) arrived 21 May, 1906 on the Pannonia from Fiume to Ellis Island. Joined husband, Ignatz Roszler in Steelton, PA (couldn't find immigration record of Ignatz Roszler). Josef Roszler, age 30 (probably born in 1883) arrived 30 Sep, 1912 on the Lapland from Antwerp to Ellis Island. Came with wife Anna, age 28. Pretty sure Josef is the brother of Ignatz Roszler. Josef is living with Katalin Roszler (listed as brother-in-law) in the 1920 census, likely soon after the death of Ignatz. In 1930 census, he is listed as Joseph Roessler. I believe this immigration record says that Josef's mother was Anna Roszler, destined for Cincinnati, OH. Josef gives last residence as Versecs, Hungary, which could be the one in the Banat. Josef gave home of mother as O. Moldove or something similar. Katalin gave last place of residence also as O. Moldove. I don't think this was Moldavia, as Josef gave his home as Hungary. Also, in some census records, the mother tongue was given as German. Thank you, Willy Istvan ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:43:54 -0700 From: "Harold Bratsko" <bhbrat24@msn.com> Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Kotzian To: <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com>, "Betty Mauro" <fmauro@webtv.net> Message-ID: <COL121-DS280AEA914FBBF17A0AACECC780@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Betty, I have looked up Kotzian in the following villages but found no Valentin. Lenauheim, Alexanderhausen, Klein Betschkerek . Also there are Kotzian from these other villages but I cannot look up. Johannisfeld, Bogarosch, and Gross Kikinda. There seems to be a lot of them from Bogarosch, so if you can find someone with this book you might find him. Good luck, Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: Betty Mauro<mailto:fmauro@webtv.net> To: BANAT-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 10:17 AM Subject: [BANAT-L] Kotzian I am trying to locate the name of the town for a Valentin Kotzian. He was born about 1843??? This is all the information I have on him. I would appreciate anyone with a family book. PLEASE do a look up for me. Thank you in advance. Betty ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:BANAT-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:45:59 -0800 From: "Dave Dreyer" <ddreyer@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Kotzian To: "Banat List" <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <C3762EA3EBF74EB99468A395562E5C72@D99J3Q21> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Harold; You can add Ostern, Kl Betschkerek and Hodon/Baratzhausen to the places containing Kotzians according to their family books, all without a Valentin . The Kotzians in these places all appear to come from Bogarosch. In the Grabatz family book is a series of families with the name Kotsisan(initial place of origin not given). Among these is a Valentin Kotsisan *21 Nov 1829 Grabatz, +ca 1853 Ostern, son of Josef Kotsisan and Klara Mess, oo Elisabeth Karolini. It you can stretch the birth date this appears to be the guy. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Bratsko" <bhbrat24@msn.com> To: <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com>; "Betty Mauro" <fmauro@webtv.net> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Kotzian > Betty, > > I have looked up Kotzian in the following villages but found no > Valentin. Lenauheim, Alexanderhausen, > Klein Betschkerek . Also there are Kotzian from these other villages but I > cannot look up. Johannisfeld, > Bogarosch, and Gross Kikinda. There seems to be a lot of them from > Bogarosch, so if you can find someone with this book you might find him. > > Good luck, > Harold > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Betty Mauro<mailto:fmauro@webtv.net> > To: BANAT-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 10:17 AM > Subject: [BANAT-L] Kotzian > > > > I am trying to locate the name of the town for a Valentin Kotzian. He > was born about 1843??? This is all the information I have on him. > > I would appreciate anyone with a family book. PLEASE do a look up for > me. Thank you in advance. > > Betty > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:BANAT-request@rootsweb.com> with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ To contact the BANAT list administrator, send an email to BANAT-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the BANAT mailing list, send an email to BANAT@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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