John; Your message has been sitting in my inbox for awhile. By this time you have probably worked out the information yourself. Anyway, for what it is worth, I post the data below taken rom the Heufeld/Massdorf KBs. Dave Dreyer MUELLER Peter, son of Peter MUELLER and Susanna TIDES *20 Feb 1877 D Zerne living in Heufeld oo 4 Feb 1902 Heufeld REP Maria, dau of Susanna REP *7 Jul 1877 Neu Betsche, living in Heufeld Johann *19 Dec 1898 Heufeld oo Katharina SCHULD Magdalena *27 Jul 1902 Kikinda Puszta MUELLER Josef , son of Peter MUELLER and Susanna TIDES *2 Jun 1883 D Zerne, living at Massdorf 133 +20 Oct 1926 Massdorf 130 oo 21 Nov 1907 Heufeld BRAMMERHAST Anna, wid of Josef BEIERLE *21 Nov 1873 Massdorf 133 Katharina *19 Jul 1908 Massdorf oo Mathias BOCKMUELLER Josef *12 May 1911 Massdorf 130 MUELLER Josef, son of Josef MUELLER and Anna BRAMMERHAST *11 May 1911 Massdorf +missing WW II oo ULI(UHLI, ULLI) Elisabeth *20 Aug 1912 St Nikolaus To Detroit Johann *20 Feb 1937 Massdorf 12 ` to Detroit Johann Josef *19 Apr 1940 Massdorf 12 to Detroit Anna *16 Nov 1942 Massdorf 14 to Detroit BEIERLE Josef *1867 Massdorf +17 May 1904 Massdorf oo BRAUMMERHAST Anna Susanna *10 Aug 1895 Massdorf oo Anton KALTSCHAN OTT Franz *1871 Massdorf 123 +19 May 1946 Lager Mollydorf 1oo LEITNER Magdalena *1876 Heufeld +18 Jun 1937 Massdorf 123 Franz *24 Feb 1896 Massdorf 106 Nikolaus *31 Nov 1898 Massdorf 106 Nikolaus Mathias *11 Jun 1905 Massdorf 106 2oo 22 Dec 1938 Heufeld BRAMMERHAST Anna, wid of Josef MUELLER *1873 Massdorf +1946 Lager Mollydorf ----- Original Message ----- From: <Muellerjohnf@aol.com> To: <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 2:45 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] Can you help me? > Hello, all you good people. > > I am a newcomer to the List and would be most pleased if any of you could > offer me some guidance on how best to get started on finding, getting more > information about my Banater family roots. > > I was born in Mastort, as was my father, Josef Muller (with Umlaut), and > his > mother, Anna (nee Bramerhast) Muller. She was married once before she wed > my > paternal grandfather Muller, and her last name then was Bayerle (or > Beuerle or > Bauerle (with Umlaut a). Her son, Johann Bayerle (spelling?), from that > first > marriage lived in Heufeld and owned and operated a flour mill there until > 1944. I believe Johann Bayerle had a sister named Susanna, possibly > married to an > Anton (?) Kalatschan of Mastort. After my grandfather Muller died (don't > know > when and how), grandmother Anna was married for the third and last time, > to > Franz Ott, of Heufeld. Anna and Franz Ott died in the Molidorf death camp > in > 1946 at the age of 73 and 75, respectively. > > Some of this information is in the Heimatbuch for Mastort-Heufeld (now > Novi > Kozarci) and Russkodorf, but I am interested in finding more genealogical > detail. > > My mother, a sister, a brother and I were in the Mastort and Molidorf > (Molin) > concentration camps and escaped to Hungary from the Gakovo death camp in > 1947, lived in refugee camp Feffernitz, Austria, for a while and arrived > in New > York on Nov. 2 or 3, 1951, from Bremen aboard the American troop ship Gen. > M. B. > Stewart. > > My mother, Elisabeta Muller, was born in 1912 in Klein Nikolaus as > Elisabeta > Uhli. I think her father's name was Georg. I don't remember (if I ever > even > knew) my maternal grandmother's first name although I am tempted to assume > it > was either Anna or Elisabeta because those were the names of her two > daughters. > My maternal grandmother's maiden name was Schafnitz or Schafschnitzl or a > variation thereof. Most, if not all. of her several siblings, including > her > brother, Frank (aka Ferenc in Hungarian, Franz in German) Schafnitz, came > to the US > via Ellis Island in 1907 as a 19-year-old "from Hungary." Other > Schafnitzes/Schafschnitzls, male and female, settled in Cincinnati (the > name Elmer > Doggendorf sounds familiar) and the Saginaw Valley of Michigan and perhaps > elsewhere > in the US. My mother had a brother, Georg Uhli, who died during in the > early > 1940s, as did grandmother Uhli. My mother's only sister, Anna, died at > age 8 of > some (unknown to me) illness. Uncle Georg Uhli and his wife, who married a > Serbian doctor after Georg's death, lived in St. Hubert. > > Family lore has it that the Muller/Bramerhast side (Roman Catholic) > probably > came from Alsace-Lorraine (Elsass-Lothringen) and settled in Mastort ca. > 1770. > The Schafschnitzls also were Catholic but the Uhlis were Protestants > (Evangelisch) and that would suggest that their forefathers possibly came > to the Banat > in the third Schwabenzug from somewhere in Germany. > > Sorry to bother you all with this detail but I thought that perhaps it > might > generate some thoughts on how I might go about learning more about the > Mullers, Bayerles, Schafschnitzls and Uhlis in the Banat region. > > Thanks a lot for any suggestions on how to proceed that you may be able to > offer this beginner. > > John Mueller > Rochester Hills, Michigan > > > > > ==== BANAT Mailing List ==== > Please keep your messages to the subject of our list. 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