To Jim and Eric: The following are entries in the Hatzfeld CD for the Theodor Kirth family: 5217 KIRTH Theodor *um. . 1725 in "Hailheim"/Luxemburg +16.07.1780 in Hf Sohn d.Johan Kirth-Elisabeth Wirt. Verm. iden. M. WK 62/62 Dietrich Kirt v. Helsen/Luxemburg (Holschen) In d. BStgl.Nr.Hf.178 sind vermerkt:eine Trauung, ein Frauen und zwei Kinderbegrabnisse oo 24.01.1751 in Steinsel weitereEhe(n) 5218 WEBER, Eva *08.03.1729 in Helmsingen +21.08.1766in Hf Tochter d.Johann Weber-Maria Karmesch Kind(er) a) Anna Maria *06.12.1751 Helmsingen +15.05.1834 in Hf Ehe siehe <6178> b) Katharina *21.09.1754 Helmsingen c) Angela *12.01.1756 Helmsingen Ehe Siehe <12731> d) Heinrich *um. .1759 +10.05.1767 in HF e) Magdalena *um. .1761 Ehe siehe <7008> f) Andreas *um. .1764 +*06.05.1767 in HF 5218 KIRTH, Theodor *um. .1725 in "Hailheim"/Luxemburg +16.07.1780 in Hf Sohn d.Johann Kirth-Elisabeth Wirt. Verm.iden.m. WK 62/62 Dietrich Kirt v. Helsen/Luxemburg (Holschen). In d.BStgl.Nr.Hf178 sind vermerkt:eine Trauung, Ein Frauen- und zwei Kinderbergrabnisse 2 oo weitere Ehe(n) <5217> KIRTH, Katharina weitere Ehe(n) <13255> *um. .1736 +26.03.1796 in Jahrmarkt Kin(der) 1) Klara t 17.07.1768 Hf +11.11.1768 Hf 2) Peter t 10.11.1769 Hf +31.10.1786 in Jahrmarkt 3) Johann t 07.03.1772 Hf +24.03.1772 in Hf 4) Johann t 19.02.1774 in Hf +06.01.1805 in Jahrmarkt 13255 WEINBERNER, Johann Wwr. *um. .1733 in Mainzischen +15.01.1793 in Hf erste Ehe unbekannt oo 04.11.1783 in Hf KIRTH, Katharina weitere Ehe(n) <5218> *um. .1736 +26.03.1796 in Jahrmarkt Kind(er) a) Magdalena t 18.11.1783 Jahrmarkt +26.11.1783 in Hf Theodor Kirth's daughter Anna Maria (by his first wfe) is my ancestor. Mary Regan ------------------------------ Message: 6 ate: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 21:16:08 -0400 rom: "Eric Benshetler" <Penn77@comcast.net> ubject: Re: [BANAT-L] Kirth Family Research (Jahrmarkt) o: "'Jim Kirth'" <jkirth@yahoo.com>, "'Banat List'" <Banat-L@rootsweb.com> essage-ID: <000a01cb70bd$8a8ff090$0202a8c0@Downstairs> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Jim- My paternal grandfather came from Jahrmarkt but I don't see a connection etween our families... yet. There's an entry in the Jahrmarkt OSB for the parents of Jakob: K769 irth Johann Georg (Sv. Theodor K. und Katharina aus Hailheim/Lux) Hatzfeld 19.02.1774 + Jm.06.01.1805 o Jm.26.01.1796 Kellner Anna Maria (Tv. Franz K. u. Anna Margareta Palinger K304) They had 2 children, Michael and Jakob. Johann married a second time, to Anna Maria Mathis, in 1803, and had one ore son, Adam. There's a note in German under the entry: Nachem Vater Theodor Kirth am 16.07.1780 in Hatzfeld verstorben ist, eiratete die Mutter in Hatzfeld am 04.11.1783 den Jahrmarkter Johann einberner. So kamen die Bruder Johann Georg und Peter nach Jahrmarkt." If I understand correctly, Theodor died on 16 July 1780 in Hatzfeld and his idow (Katharina) then married Johann Weinberner of Jahrmarkt on 4 November 783. That's how brothers Johann Georg and Peter came to Jahrmarkt. Peter Kirth's entry is K770. Johann Weinberner's is W424, and shows that atharina died in Jahrmarkt on 26 March 1796. I see in my older e-mails that Dave Dreyer provided some additional nformation to you on the Kirths back in February 2009. --- Eric Benshetler (near Philadelphia) -----Original Message----- rom: banat-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:banat-bounces@rootsweb.com] On ehalf Of Jim Kirth ent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:41 PM o: Banat List ubject: [BANAT-L] Kirth Family Research Georg Kirth Was married to A. M. Kellner. They were the parents of? Jakob irth born 3dec1798 in Jahrmarkt who was married to Katherine Schuer both of hom died in Jahrmarkt. ny information relating to Georg Kirth or A. M. Kellner origins would be ost appreciated. Jim Kirth