Amy; Since Anna Rollinger was not born in Kriva Bara, I would think the next best guess would be Ernsthausen. There was a Johann Rollinger and wife Katharina Kungel, living at Ernsthausen HN 43 in the 1871 Ernsthaussen Grundbuch records so we know that Rollinger is a surname associated with Ernsthausen. Could you send me the exact birth dates of the 6 Horvath kids you have in the Kriva Bara records? These kids were all married in Josefsdorf. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amy Nichols" <anichols@att.net> To: "'Dave Dreyer'" <ddreyer@pacbell.net>; "'Banat List'" <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 7:41 PM Subject: RE: [BANAT-L] Elisenheim >I should say Anna Rollinger's baptism record is not included in these > records. The births of 6 of their children are. > > -----Original Message----- > From: banat-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:banat-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Dave Dreyer > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 12:56 PM > To: Banat List > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Elisenheim > > Dave; > Elisenhain was established ca 1872. When the town site of Elisenhain was > abandoned in 1882 because of constant flooding the inhabitants were moved > to > > create the village of Josefsdorf. Since I am working on a Josefsdorf > family > > book I was interested in Elisenhain records because many of these people > were the first settlers of Josefsdorf. In the event, we were only able to > locate Elisenhain and acquire birth records. > Anna Rollinger could not have been born in Elisenhain. She was born ca > 1834 > > and Elisenhain did not exist at that time. One of her kids, Eva, *23 Jul > 1872 does occur in the Elisenhain birth records that I have and we know > that > > her husband, Lorenz was a Juryman in Elisenhain. The Josefsdorf records > indicate that Lorenz was from D Etschka. The family book, by Lung, for D > Etschka is now available on a CD(see Banatbooks.com) and indeed, there are > a > > bunch of Horvats in D Etschka but Lorenz is not there. This is undoubtly > due to the fact that there were some gaps in the records that Lung was > working from. You might consider getting the D Etschka CD and draw your > own > > conclusions. > The bottom line is, if your focus is on Anna Rollinger, to follow up the > Kriva Bara lead. To start you might consider contacting Marta Istvan and > see if she knows where the chruch books(KBs) are for Kriva Bara. Marta > lives in Gr Kikinda and it is a little far for her to get to on the bus > but > if the Kriva Bara KBs have been removed to a central archives, e.g. Gr > Betschkerek, she could probably dig out the data you need in short order. > If you are interested I can send you Marta email address. > Dave Dreyer > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <davey1947@suddenlink.net> > To: <ddreyer@pacbell.net> > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 1:48 AM > Subject: Elisenheim > > >> Hello Dave: >> I noticed that you are going to produce the Elisenheim Family Book. Does >> this mean that you will include Anna Rollinger in that Family book? That >> is one of the cites mentioned as being the hometown of Anna. Eileen >> Lund-Johnson is my cousin and I know that she has done a lot of research >> trying to find Anna's background. Kriva Bara is another possible >> hometown > >> for Anna. Markowitschewo is the German name for Kriva Bara. >> Also, Family Search lists Deutsche Etschka as being Lorenz Horvath's >> hometown. Has anyone done a lookup in that city for Lorenz? >> Sincerely, >> Dave Weinfurtner >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > >