1638 Orchard St. is in St. Michael's parish. The FHL has films for the church records from 1903 to 1915. http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlc/frameset_fhlc.asp Good luck with your research, Uwe! Dolores Jungheim Barber On Feb 27, 2010, at 2:31 PM, Dave Dreyer wrote: > Uwe; > Since Chicago was the destination of Elisabeth Stein on her > passenger ship record I think you can assume that she lived there > during the entire time of her arrival in 1904 until 1911 at the time > of the birth of her kid in 1911. If the birth of the first kid was > registered then it should be in the pilot database. As you well > know there are almost unlimited ways to spell the surname Detemple. > I assume you have tried all possibilities but if not you must > exhaust this approach in the pilot database. The usual strategy in > such cases is the following. You know the street address from the > birth record of the second kid. In addition, you can get > conformation of the street address from the 1910 census. One then > finds this street, 1638 Orchard St, on a detailed street map of > Chicago and identifies the Catholic churches in the neighborhood. > Hopefully there is only one. Then one checks the FHL catalogue to > see if the records of this church are on microfilm in Salt Lake. > I am no expert on Chicago and undoubtly there are many Banat LIst > subscribers who know the city well and there would be some who could > pinpoint the church off the top of their head since the Banaters > tended to all live in the same neighborhood. > If the church records are not in Salt Lake then it is a big problem > and again there may be some Banat list subscribers who have some > insight on how to access them. > Dave Dreyer > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Uwe Detemple > To: Dave Dreyer > Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 6:00 AM > Subject: Re: [Akdff-l] STEIN in Giseladorf und Chicago > > > Dave; > > Thank your for your information. I am interested in Elisabeth * 26 > Jan 1884, in Giseladorf?. She is imigrated 1904 in the U.S. She > married John Ditambel from Billed. When, where? Her second child is > born on 28.02.1911 in Cook County: http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#searchType > =standard;surname=Ditambel;p=recordResults. But in which place? And > the first child? > > Maybe you know where to search for more information about this > familiy? > > Thank you. > Uwe > > > 2010/2/24 Dave Dreyer <ddreyer@pacbell.net> > > Uwe; > There are only a few minor differences from the Giseladorf family > book. I include these in blue below; > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Detemple@web.de> > To: <akdff-l@genealogy.net> > Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:43 AM > Subject: [Akdff-l] STEIN in Giseladorf und Chicago > > > Bitte um Entschuldigung für den Datensalat. Hier nun meine > Anfrage nochmal: > > Im Josefsdorf Giseladorf Family Register 1882-1897 von Dave > Dreyer wird im Teil Giseladorf folgende Familie aufgeführt: > > STEIN Josef HN 166 ex Tolvadia > *1850 +19 Sep 1925 Giseladorf > oo > FRANZ Anna ex D Zerne > *1856 +26 Sep 1914 Giseladorf > > 1 Katharine * 1881 + 2 Oct 1891 ex Giselahain > 2 Elisabeth * 26 Jan 1884 > 3 Marianna * 22 Jan 1887 > 4 Anna * 29 Nov 1889 > 5 Jakob * 6 Aug 1895 HN 151 oo Katharina Krauter *Nitzkydorf > > Even though the Giseladorf records says that Anna Franz was born > in D Zerne she is not listed in the newly published D Zerne > Familienbuch by H and A Hornung. > Josef Michels is working on a new edition of the Giseladorf > family book-----perhaps he will have additional data in it when it > is published. > Dave Dreyer > > > Elisabeth wandert 1904 in die USA aus: STEIN Elisabeth [S350]- > Age: 19 -From: Giseladorf -DtAr: Sunday, 17 Jul 1904 - To: Chicago, > IL -Via: Ham/NY -Ship: Graf Waldersee -Note: [*26 Jan 1884, dau of > Josef Stein and Anna Franz] (Dave Dreyer http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~banatdata/DDB/ByVillage/Giseladorf.htm) > . > > Dem Ehepaar Elisabeth Stein aus Gisellafalva und John Ditambel > aus Billet, wird am 28.02.1911 im Cook County (wahrscheinlich in > Chicago) ein Kind geboren (es ist das zweite Kind). Das Alter der > Mutter wird mit 26 angegeben. Das würde zu Elisabeth aus obiger > Familie passen. > > Lassen sich diese Angaben aus dem später erschienenen > Familienbuch der katholischen Pfarrgemeinde Giseladorf und Panjowa > von Nikolaus Schramm ergänzen? > > Danke für eure Hilfe. > > Uwe (Detemple) > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message