Charle; Aside from some transit families which had a relatively short tenure in Hatzfeld there was little internal migration from other Banat localities into Hatzfeld. This was true of other Banat localities settled in this period 1768-1778. Actually, Hatzfeld, as the population expanded, was the source of many families who settled the daughter villages along the lower Thiess. As to your other point. There are a variety of reasons why the place of origin on many of the original settlers is obscure. First of all, record keeping was not all that exact. If you look at KBs for German localities in the 18th century you find the same problem. This is an old problem in German research. One finds that the family one is studying suddenly stops as you work backwards and there is no indication of where they came from. To solve this problem one usually starts looking in the adjacent villages and starts to pay attention to the flow of populations. If it was not for W and K Banat research would be much more difficult, but not everyone was registered in Wien or some registration record did not survive. Some settlers to the Banat came overland and did not travel through Wien. Place of origin may seem an obvious piece of information to record for us but really how important would it be on the part of the church? If you have ever looked at any church records here in the U. S., good luck if you can find a place of origin indicated. Back to W and K. W and K was compiled by students from the original records. Apparently, these students would come to an entry from time to time which was unreadable or at least difficult to read and they would skip such entries. Apparently this was discovered much later when someone sat down and compared W and K with the original records. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie Tiller" <charlietiller@hotmail.com> To: <banat@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] DILK message from Harold Bratsko > > Mr. Bratsko (and everyone else too), > > I do not know of Dilk, but I have been trying to sort out the > Tiller/Diller/Till/Dill/Thil/Deil names in the 18th-Century Hatzfeld > vicinity. It's not clear if these names are related or not, but I > continue to ponder the notion in hopes of a breakthrough. Dilk sounds > similar; perhaps that could be connnected as well... or not. It's a > frustrating conundrum that I may never truly answer. > > This does raise some fresh questions that have been lurking beneath the > surface for me. The introductory part of the Hatzfeld family book lists > the original settlers who came from Germany, but in its family pages there > are many others identified who apparently arrived about the same time from > unidentified locales. Does anyone have a clear notion if Hatzfeld was > settled totally by immigrants (per the street-name tale), or if there may > have been a sizable number of in-country settlers relocating there as > well? I've not heard a satisfactory answer why many family book entries > (thus church book entries) from the 18th-Century do not identify the > person's place of origin. It would seem an obvious piece of information > to record. > > Any feedback is appreciated. > > All the best to you in your searches, > Charlie Tiller > > Charlie Tiller > charlietiller@hotmail.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:18:10 -0600 > From: "Harold Bratsko" <bhbrat24@msn.com> > Subject: [BANAT-L] DILK > To: "Banat_List" <banat@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <COL121-DS251F2595DFE4BFB99557DCCCBB0@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > At one time there was someone looking for the name Dilk. If they are still > on the list, please contact me. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >