I Hermann Sellinger living in melbourne australia born on the20 Th. may 1942 in etchka banat really enjoy reading about the donauschwaben if anybody knows anything about etchka please contact me as i am interested to know more i lost my father in the war in sackelhausen my mother never talked much about back home please keep in touch On 11/07/2010, at 5:02 PM, banat-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [DVHH] Ethnicity (Frank Jakob) > 2. Emmigration Lists (Rosina T Schmidt) > 3. Swiss Family names (Rosina T Schmidt) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 12:59:41 -0400 > From: "Frank Jakob" <capehatreal@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] [DVHH] Ethnicity > To: "'Michael Rauschenberger'" <michael@rauschenberger.dk> > Cc: Banat-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <004301cb2051$4a3f3fd0$debdbf70$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Thank You Michael, > > As a German American born here in the United States in 1944 we did not study > much of European History in school > . > My parents came here in the 1930's from Gertinosch, Romania (Banat) and had > limited education and did not speak a lot about their history during my > growing up since it was during WW11 and being German was not popular when > they worked at the Philadelphia Naval Yard. Only now, that I am retired am I > looking into my ancestry and thanks to a great bunch of people (DS) and the > internet have I been able to trace my mother's family back to 1525 in Allace > Lorraine, now Saarland, Deutschland. > > Please keep up the great replies. I am getting a new education in European > history. > > > Thanks and Have a Great Day!! > > > Frank A. Jakob, President/Broker/Auctioneer > Cape Hatteras Realty & Construction Corp > P.O. Box 249 > Salvo, NC 27972 > > Office:252-987-2799 > Cell: 252-305-1184 > Fax: 252-987-2012 > > Web: www.capehatterasrealty.com > E-mail: capehatreal@yahoo.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael > Rauschenberger > Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 5:15 AM > To: 'SusanM'; 'Anne Dreer' > Cc: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Ethnicity > > Hi Everyone, > > As for Germany, and how it's history has changed it into what it is today, > Wikipedia has a fair lesson: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany > > As a European it's strange to read how so many of you originating from > Europe have scant knowledge of what Europe is and was. The countries you see > today were not all there just 100 years ago > > Learning European geography today is not very helpful in understanding what > Europe was like in 1740 to 1850 > > Czechoslovakia only ever existed from 1918 (1921 actually, the Trianon > Agreement) and then split in 2 after 1990, Germany up to the Unification in > 1871 mostly consisted of what is today Poland, Belaruss and the 3 Baltic > states (they've only had about 100 years of sovereignty since Denmark owned > most of it in 1215), Austria is only half of what it was, as is Hungary. > Poland to which many Schwaben also moved is under half its glorious size - > the rest was annexed in 1939 and never returned. > > One thing which to me was funny, was to read about "Frankreich" - a word I > thought everyone of German descent would understand, as well as Deutschland, > ?sterreich and Schwartzwald. Also you may like to know that Elsass and > Alsace is the same, as is Lothringen and Lorraine. > > I for one have just had a fun experience with "where are you from AND where > are you from". My gggggg-grandad said to the archdiocese in Kalocsa that he > came from N?meth-Bolly and Raczpeter. How come 2 towns? Found out N-Bolly is > where he was born, and Raczpeter is where he last lived. > > So where are you from can take on many shapes > > No offence was meant in the above, it's just interesting - that which is > obvious to one may be completely unknown to others. > > /Michael - my 2cents worth > > -----Original Message----- > From: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of SusanM > Sent: 10. juli 2010 5:27 > To: Anne Dreer > Cc: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DVHH] Ethnicity > > Actually Anne, that clears up quite a bit for me. I knew that during the > 15th and 16th centuries there was no Germany, but literally that's all I > knew. I still don't understand the difference between the Austrian Empire > other...empires? There was an elected emperor at one time, and I am also > ignorant about that. > ? > I have a lot of reading to do, and it seems like the farther I get, the more > I find lacking in what I know. > ? > Susan M > --- On Fri, 7/9/10, Anne Dreer <dreera@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > > From: Anne Dreer <dreera@sympatico.ca> > Subject: [DVHH] Ethnicity > To: Donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, July 9, 2010, 12:54 PM > > > There was no GERMANY in the 1600's and 1700's. There were however German > speaking kingdoms, principalities, dukedoms, principalities? and areas rule > by? noble families. Present day Germany consisted of states that were > individually governed and always spoke German. There was Baden, Wuerttemberg > (=formerly the kingdom of Schwaben), > Bavaria, Franconia (Franken) Hessen, the Rheinland, Westfalen, > Preussen(Prussia),? Mecklenburg, Sachsen, Schleswig and Holstein. Thuringen. > There could have been a few more. > > Elsass and Lothringen, which now belongs to France, also had a large number > of German speaking residents with German names.The people who spoke German > were considered of the? Germanic race, as are some other northern European > nations, including the English. > > Anne D. > > -------------------------- > Weistum . > record of rights handed down in a parish . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > -------------------------- > Weistum . > record of rights handed down in a parish . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------- > Weistum . > record of rights handed down in a parish . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 10:00:32 -0700 > From: "Rosina T Schmidt" <rosinats@shaw.ca> > Subject: [BANAT-L] Emmigration Lists > To: <Banat@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <11A9C092BA1A460A8B3C3C5CE81E4BB9@odChrisi> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > > Hello Danube Swabian Researchers, > > The Swiss research group put some emigration from Europe lists. Perhaps it might be of help to you also. > > See you all in Mt. Angel! www.dsheritage.com > > Rosina > www.hrastovac.net > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 10:07:21 -0700 > From: "Rosina T Schmidt" <rosinats@shaw.ca> > Subject: [BANAT-L] Swiss Family names > To: <Banat@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <B01EF4023C49499FA2A953A45E3167A9@odChrisi> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > > Hello to Everyone! > > After the 30 year war ended in 1648 quite a few Swiss settlers from overpopulated Switzerland spread all over devastated areas of the Holly Roman Empire. Some of those family names still live in Switzerland, and perhaps your roots go via Danube Swabian areas, Germany & France all the way to Switzerland. Here is the list of Swiss names: http://www.eye.ch/swissgen/famnam-m.htm > > See you all in Mt. Angel! > > Rosina > www.hrastovac.net > > P.S. Did you register yet at www.dsheritage.com? > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BANAT list administrator, send an email to > BANAT-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BANAT mailing list, send an email to BANAT@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of BANAT Digest, Vol 5, Issue 184 > *************************************

Hermann; There is a family book for D Etschka by Philipp Lung. It is now out of print but available from the AVBF on a CD. I note that there are several Sellinger families listed in it. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hermann Sellinger" <st.leger1@bigpond.com> To: <banat@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 4:19 AM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] BANAT Digest, Vol 5, Issue 184 >I Hermann Sellinger living in melbourne australia born on the20 Th. may >1942 in etchka banat really enjoy reading about the donauschwaben if >anybody knows anything about etchka please contact me as i am interested >to know more i lost my father in the war in sackelhausen my mother never >talked much about back home please keep in touch > On 11/07/2010, at 5:02 PM, banat-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: [DVHH] Ethnicity (Frank Jakob) >> 2. Emmigration Lists (Rosina T Schmidt) >> 3. Swiss Family names (Rosina T Schmidt) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 12:59:41 -0400 >> From: "Frank Jakob" <capehatreal@yahoo.com> >> Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] [DVHH] Ethnicity >> To: "'Michael Rauschenberger'" <michael@rauschenberger.dk> >> Cc: Banat-L@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <004301cb2051$4a3f3fd0$debdbf70$@com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Thank You Michael, >> >> As a German American born here in the United States in 1944 we did not >> study >> much of European History in school >> . >> My parents came here in the 1930's from Gertinosch, Romania (Banat) and >> had >> limited education and did not speak a lot about their history during my >> growing up since it was during WW11 and being German was not popular when >> they worked at the Philadelphia Naval Yard. Only now, that I am retired >> am I >> looking into my ancestry and thanks to a great bunch of people (DS) and >> the >> internet have I been able to trace my mother's family back to 1525 in >> Allace >> Lorraine, now Saarland, Deutschland. >> >> Please keep up the great replies. I am getting a new education in >> European >> history. >> >> >> Thanks and Have a Great Day!! >> >> >> Frank A. Jakob, President/Broker/Auctioneer >> Cape Hatteras Realty & Construction Corp >> P.O. Box 249 >> Salvo, NC 27972 >> >> Office:252-987-2799 >> Cell: 252-305-1184 >> Fax: 252-987-2012 >> >> Web: www.capehatterasrealty.com >> E-mail: capehatreal@yahoo.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael >> Rauschenberger >> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 5:15 AM >> To: 'SusanM'; 'Anne Dreer' >> Cc: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [DVHH] Ethnicity >> >> Hi Everyone, >> >> As for Germany, and how it's history has changed it into what it is >> today, >> Wikipedia has a fair lesson: >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany >> >> As a European it's strange to read how so many of you originating from >> Europe have scant knowledge of what Europe is and was. The countries you >> see >> today were not all there just 100 years ago >> >> Learning European geography today is not very helpful in understanding >> what >> Europe was like in 1740 to 1850 >> >> Czechoslovakia only ever existed from 1918 (1921 actually, the Trianon >> Agreement) and then split in 2 after 1990, Germany up to the Unification >> in >> 1871 mostly consisted of what is today Poland, Belaruss and the 3 Baltic >> states (they've only had about 100 years of sovereignty since Denmark >> owned >> most of it in 1215), Austria is only half of what it was, as is Hungary. >> Poland to which many Schwaben also moved is under half its glorious >> size - >> the rest was annexed in 1939 and never returned. >> >> One thing which to me was funny, was to read about "Frankreich" - a word >> I >> thought everyone of German descent would understand, as well as >> Deutschland, >> ?sterreich and Schwartzwald. Also you may like to know that Elsass and >> Alsace is the same, as is Lothringen and Lorraine. >> >> I for one have just had a fun experience with "where are you from AND >> where >> are you from". My gggggg-grandad said to the archdiocese in Kalocsa that >> he >> came from N?meth-Bolly and Raczpeter. How come 2 towns? Found out N-Bolly >> is >> where he was born, and Raczpeter is where he last lived. >> >> So where are you from can take on many shapes >> >> No offence was meant in the above, it's just interesting - that which is >> obvious to one may be completely unknown to others. >> >> /Michael - my 2cents worth >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of SusanM >> Sent: 10. juli 2010 5:27 >> To: Anne Dreer >> Cc: DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [DVHH] Ethnicity >> >> Actually Anne, that clears up quite a bit for me. I knew that during the >> 15th and 16th centuries there was no Germany, but literally that's all I >> knew. I still don't understand the difference between the Austrian Empire >> other...empires? There was an elected emperor at one time, and I am also >> ignorant about that. >> ? >> I have a lot of reading to do, and it seems like the farther I get, the >> more >> I find lacking in what I know. >> ? >> Susan M >> --- On Fri, 7/9/10, Anne Dreer <dreera@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> >> >> From: Anne Dreer <dreera@sympatico.ca> >> Subject: [DVHH] Ethnicity >> To: Donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com >> Date: Friday, July 9, 2010, 12:54 PM >> >> >> There was no GERMANY in the 1600's and 1700's. There were however German >> speaking kingdoms, principalities, dukedoms, principalities? and areas >> rule >> by? noble families. Present day Germany consisted of states that were >> individually governed and always spoke German. There was Baden, >> Wuerttemberg >> (=formerly the kingdom of Schwaben), >> Bavaria, Franconia (Franken) Hessen, the Rheinland, Westfalen, >> Preussen(Prussia),? Mecklenburg, Sachsen, Schleswig and Holstein. >> Thuringen. >> There could have been a few more. >> >> Elsass and Lothringen, which now belongs to France, also had a large >> number >> of German speaking residents with German names.The people who spoke >> German >> were considered of the? Germanic race, as are some other northern >> European >> nations, including the English. >> >> Anne D. >> >> -------------------------- >> Weistum . >> record of rights handed down in a parish . >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> -------------------------- >> Weistum . >> record of rights handed down in a parish . >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -------------------------- >> Weistum . >> record of rights handed down in a parish . >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 10:00:32 -0700 >> From: "Rosina T Schmidt" <rosinats@shaw.ca> >> Subject: [BANAT-L] Emmigration Lists >> To: <Banat@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <11A9C092BA1A460A8B3C3C5CE81E4BB9@odChrisi> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" >> >> >> Hello Danube Swabian Researchers, >> >> The Swiss research group put some emigration from Europe lists. Perhaps >> it might be of help to you also. >> >> See you all in Mt. Angel! www.dsheritage.com >> >> Rosina >> www.hrastovac.net >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 10:07:21 -0700 >> From: "Rosina T Schmidt" <rosinats@shaw.ca> >> Subject: [BANAT-L] Swiss Family names >> To: <Banat@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <B01EF4023C49499FA2A953A45E3167A9@odChrisi> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" >> >> >> Hello to Everyone! >> >> After the 30 year war ended in 1648 quite a few Swiss settlers from >> overpopulated Switzerland spread all over devastated areas of the Holly >> Roman Empire. Some of those family names still live in Switzerland, and >> perhaps your roots go via Danube Swabian areas, Germany & France all the >> way to Switzerland. Here is the list of Swiss names: >> http://www.eye.ch/swissgen/famnam-m.htm >> >> See you all in Mt. Angel! >> >> Rosina >> www.hrastovac.net >> >> P.S. Did you register yet at www.dsheritage.com? >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the BANAT list administrator, send an email to >> BANAT-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the BANAT mailing list, send an email to >> BANAT@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BANAT-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of BANAT Digest, Vol 5, Issue 184 >> ************************************* > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >