Dear List Members, Many of you are familiar with Mr. Stasa Cvetkovic, the well-known genealogist who specializes in Banat and Batschka research. Some of you may have heard him speak at the Mt. Angel Treffen in Oregon in 2014. Stasa will be in Minneapolis for the Int’l German Genealogy conference in July and is planning a seminar to be held either before the conference dates, or just after (the seminar will not be part of the IGGC program). I am posting the following announcement on behalf of Stasa: Mr. Staša Cvetković, Serbian genealogist specializing in Donauschwaben genealogy, will be in the Twin Cities this summer for the International German Genealogy Conference, July 28-30. We are conducting a short survey in order to plan a seminar to be presented by Mr. Cvetkovic. Please take a few minutes to reply to this survey as soon as possible. Thank you! a) Are you going to attend 2017 International Germanic Genealogy Conference from 28 – 30 July 2017 in Minneapolis? b) Would you be interested in a related genealogy event that would occur either before or after that conference? MULTIMEDIA LECTURES by experienced genealogist from Serbia, Mr. Staša Cvetković, would address some of the important topics related to the GENEALOGY OF ETHNIC GERMANS in the area of today’s Romania, south Hungary including Slavonia, and Serbia (Banat, Batschka). Some of the subjects to be covered: · Civil records repositories and access to the records which are protected by privacy protection laws (usually 100 years); · Use of land survey records in genealogy; · Closing of the remaining gaps related to the parish records in the region; · Private life of Banaters in 18th, 19th and the first half of the 20th century with the special spotlight on the Banat geography, architecture, regional cuisine, transportation and other subjects. · Your suggestions and questions related to the topics are very welcome, especially at this point of planning! c) If you are interested, which day(s) would be best to hold the lectures? Before the conference dates: Wednesday 26 July; Thursday 27 July; OR after the conference dates: Monday 31 July; Tuesday 1 August 2017? Would you attend a daylong event, or only evening(s)? We would like to point out that the most probable location for the lectures would be in South St. Paul, MN. d) The price would be $40.00 USD for early registration for the daylong event (early registration will be opened around 20 April and would last until 15 June**). After 15 June, the cost would be $50.00 USD for a day-long event registration, $30.00 USD for half of the full day event (block of 3-4 lectures). **Tentative dates. We would inform you about the exact window for the early registration. e) Mr. Staša Cvetković will be available for one-on-one genealogy consultations during his stay in Minneapolis. If you are interested, please e-mail directly to Mr. Cvetković at synergia@gmail.com <mailto:synergia@gmail.com> with the description of your interest or genealogy problem. Please also include a copy (CC) of your e-mail to the program organizer, Mrs. Vicki Albu at valbu@comcast.net <mailto:valbu@comcast.net> f) If you are interested, would you like to receive the updates about the event by e-mail? Please note that we are also planning an additional daylong seminar for Romanian Genealogy Society on one of these dates. Let us know if you would be interested in that program as well. Please reply to both Staša Cvetković synergia@gmail.com <mailto:synergia@gmail.com> and organizer Vicki Albu at valbu@comcast.net <mailto:valbu@comcast.net> as soon as possible. Thank you! Staša Cvetković -- Stasa Cvetkovic http://www.synergia.rs/ <http://www.synergia.rs/> Tel/fax: +381 21 553 265 <tel:+381%2021%20553265> Mobile: +381 62 598 517 <tel:+381%2062%20598517> Novi Sad, Serbia Visit our webpage <http://www.synergia.rs/>

Dear list-members, In my research to identify and connect the Hipfel/Hupfl clan, I learned from the marriage index on Stefansfeld about two couples which were so far unknown to me: * 1844, Tom1/71 Michael Hüpfl married Marg. Englmann * 1868, Tom2/40 Josef Hüpfl married Vikt. Tini May I kindly ask somebody which has access to the Stefansfeld OFB by Hans Awender to check this marriages and copy the details about the two couples for me. Thank you in advance for your assistance and best regards from Vienna, Austria Rudolf Huepfl

Hi Lynda, I was there with a group tour in 2010 with Stasa as guide. The church roof collapsed in an earthquake several years ago and there are trees growing inside the church. The very little bit that remains of the cemetery is in a clump of bush just outside the village and north or northeast of the church. I wrote a blog about our trip with one picture. You will find it at http://zichydorf10.blogspot.ca/. We were there on May 30. I have a few more pictures I can share if you want to contact me off list. You can also find it on Google maps and go to satellite view. Our group has some digital church records. Check out what we have at http://zichydorfonline.org/genealogy/3-genealogy/288-church-records-digital-images. I believe that there is also an online Familienbuch. I don't recall the URL, but you should be able to find it in a Google search. Glenn Schwartz President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca On 4/11/2017 11:38 AM, Lynda Curran wrote: > I am planning a trip to Hungary/Romania and was wondering if anyone > had been to the village of Offsenitza in Romania where my family comes > from. It would be interesting to know if the religious places are > still there and graveyards as well. Also, if it is possible to get > records. I do not speak the language, which is always a challenge. > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Lynda, I have not been to Ofsenita, Romania, but I was very near there in September of last year, visiting many small towns around Timisoara. I can highly recommend an English-speaking tour guide, Alexandra Irimia aka Timisoara Tour Guide. Also Stasa Cvetkovic of Synergia Genealogy Services has expert knowledge about Germans in Banat, and he may be available for research and tour guiding, depending on his schedule. He is a member of this list and can probably answer your questions about whether churches and graveyards still exist there. Vicki Albu -----Original Message----- From: BANAT [mailto:banat-bounces+valbu=comcast.net@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynda Curran Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 12:39 PM To: banat@rootsweb.com Subject: [BANAT-L] Offsenitza Romania I am planning a trip to Hungary/Romania and was wondering if anyone had been to the village of Offsenitza in Romania where my family comes from. It would be interesting to know if the religious places are still there and graveyards as well. Also, if it is possible to get records. I do not speak the language, which is always a challenge. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear List Members, One of my DNA chromosome matches named Pete finally found an ancestor who set off for the Banat from the Rhineland. (I am sure there will be more.) I know Pete is linked to my Mercydorf branch of the family because of a triangulation match with two others who also have roots in Mercydorf. W&K show his relative Johann REINSBACH and 6 others (probably his wife Barbara WILLEMS and their children) registering in Vienna on May 16, 1786. However, we do not know where the family settled in the Banat. It is not in Mercydorf. I thought the answer might be found in the “R” Stader book, and I was wondering if anyone with the book could please do a look-up for Johann REINSBACH/REINSPACH/REIMSPACH/REIMSBACH and his wife Barbara WILLEMS. Thanks, in advance, for any help you can give Pete. I cannot change my Yahoo e-mail account to “plain text,” so I am sending this through another list member. Sincerely, Cathy Teufel O’Neill

I am planning a trip to Hungary/Romania and was wondering if anyone had been to the village of Offsenitza in Romania where my family comes from. It would be interesting to know if the religious places are still there and graveyards as well. Also, if it is possible to get records. I do not speak the language, which is always a challenge. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Would anyone be interested in purchasing the book ? "Pardan Im Banat". Please let me know . Rose Marie (Walery) Sartin

Is there someone who has access to the Heimatbuch or Family book for Hodschag? I am looking for information on the siblings of Anton Müller (married to Katharina Piller). And any other ancestry information that might be available. Thank you!

Rudolf, In response to your inquiry regarding Hüpfels in Ketfel, the following info is found in the Ketfel-Kleinsiedel Heimatbuch (by Hilde Bücher, 2005). In 1940, Georg (geb. 1901) and Barbara Nies and their 2 children, Anna (geb. 1926) and Wilhelm (geb 1927) lived in house #46. Barbara (geb. Hüpfel) was born in 1906. Also living at that address was Theresia Hüpfel (geb. Wolf in 1876). One could assume that Theresia was Barbara’s mother. Unfortunately there is no information regarding Theresia’s husband, who was a Hüpfel, and presumably deceased by that time. In 1970, Georg and Barbara (geb. Hüpfel) Nies still lived in that house, with their daughter Anna, who had married Franz Feiler. Their children, Richard Feiler (geb. 1955) and Gerhard Feiler (geb.1957) also lived there. Narrative in the book (Seite 344) speaks of “Ketfeler Musikanten”, of which Wilhelm Nies and and Franz Feiler were members in the late 1940s and 1950s. It’s not much, but the Hüpfel family had some presence in Ketfel. Dan Sedley Mount Laurel, NJ > On Apr 2, 2017, at 11:35 PM, banat-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Send BANAT mailing list submissions to > banat@rootsweb.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/banat > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > banat-request@rootsweb.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > banat-owner@rootsweb.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of BANAT digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Lookup (cdott) > 2. Ketfel (Knees) family book (Rudolf H?pfl) > 3. Re: Lookup (ddreyer@pacbell.net) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2017 13:21:11 -0400 > From: cdott <cdott@comcast.net> > To: BANAT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BANAT-L] Lookup > Message-ID: <33E9B377-FD37-4B40-9F6B-8776A9D0809A@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Looking for more information on: > > Stefan Kirchner b. Abt. 1762 Lothringen > Death date and place; parentage > > Married to: Otilia Unterstein > Any info would be great - birth/death dates; parentage > May be from Lothringen or Kleinjetscha > > Thank you! > > Cathy Ott > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2017 19:51:38 +0200 > From: Rudolf H?pfl <huepfl@gmail.com> > To: <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [BANAT-L] Ketfel (Knees) family book > Message-ID: <017701d2abd9$c7aef2b0$570cd810$@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dear Banaters, > > In my search for the many dispersed Hupfl/Hipfel, I learned about one: > > H?PFEL Mathias, * 15.04.1893 Ketfel / Kom. Temesch, S.v. Johann H?pfel u. > Elisabeth Vetzl, > oo 1919 GrB: Josephina Mayer > > who was found in the Gro?betschkerek book. So far I was not aware of any > Hupfel in Ketfel. > However, I kindly ask if one of you could have a look into his book on > Ketfel (Knees) and copy the information on any Hupfel/Hipfl for me. > Thank you in advance for your assistance > > Rudolf HUEPFL > Vienna, Austria > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2017 20:35:46 -0700 > From: <ddreyer@pacbell.net> > To: cdott <cdott@comcast.net>, "Banat-L@rootsweb.com" > <Banat-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Lookup > Message-ID: <976814.54765.bm@smtp105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Kathy, > BINGO! > It?s all in the Kl Jetscha family book. > Kirchner Stefan, son of Johann Geo Kirchner and A M NN > *1762 Helfsburg/Loethringen > oo 12 May 1789 Kl Jetscha +20 Aug 1799 Kl Jetscha > Untersteiner Ottilia, dau of Jakob Unterst einer and A M NN > *4 May 1774 +9 Oct 1816 Kl Jetscha > 1 Simon *18 Apr 1792 oo Walberga Kory > 2 Jakob *24 Dec 1793 2oo Billed, Barbara Deininger > 3 A M *13 Aug 1795 +10 Jul 1805 > 4 Margaretha *21 Sep 1797 oo John Scheerer > 5 Franz *17 Jun 1799 +23 Feb 1800 > All births in Kl Jetscha. > > Dave Dreyer > ? > > > > From: cdott > Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 10:21 AM > To: BANAT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BANAT-L] Lookup > > Looking for more information on: > > Stefan Kirchner b. Abt. 1762 Lothringen > Death date and place; parentage > > Married to: Otilia Unterstein > Any info would be great - birth/death dates; parentage > May be from Lothringen or Kleinjetscha > > Thank you! > > Cathy Ott > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > To contact the BANAT list administrator, send an email to > BANAT-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BANAT mailing list, send an email to BANAT@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of BANAT Digest, Vol 12, Issue 86 > *************************************

Kathy, BINGO! It’s all in the Kl Jetscha family book. Kirchner Stefan, son of Johann Geo Kirchner and A M NN *1762 Helfsburg/Loethringen oo 12 May 1789 Kl Jetscha +20 Aug 1799 Kl Jetscha Untersteiner Ottilia, dau of Jakob Unterst einer and A M NN *4 May 1774 +9 Oct 1816 Kl Jetscha 1 Simon *18 Apr 1792 oo Walberga Kory 2 Jakob *24 Dec 1793 2oo Billed, Barbara Deininger 3 A M *13 Aug 1795 +10 Jul 1805 4 Margaretha *21 Sep 1797 oo John Scheerer 5 Franz *17 Jun 1799 +23 Feb 1800 All births in Kl Jetscha. Dave Dreyer • From: cdott Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 10:21 AM To: BANAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BANAT-L] Lookup Looking for more information on: Stefan Kirchner b. Abt. 1762 Lothringen Death date and place; parentage Married to: Otilia Unterstein Any info would be great - birth/death dates; parentage May be from Lothringen or Kleinjetscha Thank you! Cathy Ott ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Banaters, In my search for the many dispersed Hupfl/Hipfel, I learned about one: HÜPFEL Mathias, * 15.04.1893 Ketfel / Kom. Temesch, S.v. Johann Hüpfel u. Elisabeth Vetzl, oo 1919 GrB: Josephina Mayer who was found in the Großbetschkerek book. So far I was not aware of any Hupfel in Ketfel. However, I kindly ask if one of you could have a look into his book on Ketfel (Knees) and copy the information on any Hupfel/Hipfl for me. Thank you in advance for your assistance Rudolf HUEPFL Vienna, Austria

Looking for more information on: Stefan Kirchner b. Abt. 1762 Lothringen Death date and place; parentage Married to: Otilia Unterstein Any info would be great - birth/death dates; parentage May be from Lothringen or Kleinjetscha Thank you! Cathy Ott

Glenn, Helen Schwartz is working on a Blumenthal family book. Dave Dreyer From: Glenn Schwartz Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:33 AM To: Banat email list; DVHH Subject: [BANAT-L] Blumenthal Does anyone have a Familienbuch for Blumenthal? I am looking for a Berger/Burger family, esp. Margaretha * abt 1812. -- Glenn Schwartz President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Family Book for the city of Tschawosch im Banat, including the filial parishes of Fodorhausen, Gad, Gier, Rudna, Schurian and Toager is now available. The work is presented in hard cover A5 format with 964 pages, including the years 1806-1973. Cost: The price is 45.00 €, plus 21.00 € shipping costs to North America. Ordering: For orders in North America, please contact: Karen Dalton Preston: karen@golden-hills.com <mailto:karen@golden-hills.com> For orders in the EU, please contact: Address: AVBF, Josef Michels, Spittelbergstraße 11, 78112 St. Georgen., Tel. 07724-7122, email: JoMichels@gmx.de <mailto:JoMichels@gmx.de>

Does anyone have a Familienbuch for Blumenthal? I am looking for a Berger/Burger family, esp. Margaretha * abt 1812. -- Glenn Schwartz President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca

Hello Linda, I will check personally, hopefully on Friday. On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Linda Sohl <lesohl.home@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks so much for your offer to call the archive, Stasa. > > I can confirm that I’m looking for Josef Jerhoff, born circa 1879 to > Lorenz Jerhoff and Elisabeth Samson (Angela Brenesel is actually Josef’s > wife from Ernsthausen). > > Some details on Josef’s parents, in case it helps: > > I have no record of Elisabeth and Lorenz’s marriage. They had a total of > five additional children born in Ernsthausen between 1881 and 1889. I don’t > know if Josef was the only child not born in Ernsthausen, but he is the > oldest as far as I know. > > For Elisabeth Samson, I know she was born in Tschestereg in 1854, and that > she later remarried in 1906 in Ernsthausen, to Paul Merle. > > For Lorenz Jerhoff, I have only his name from both the record of Josef’s > marriage to Angela Brenesel in Ernsthausen, and the US marriage record for > one of Josef’s sisters. I’ve looked through the Ernsthausen death records > from 1895-1916 and can’t find him, so I’m thinking he may have died between > 1889 and 1895. > > Cheers, > Linda > > > On Mar 25, 2017, at 12:53 PM, Stasa Cvetkovic <synergia@gmail.com> wrote: > > Linda, I will make a phone call to a lady in the Archive in Zrenjanin to > take a look in Perlas records. Just please confirm that we are looking for > Josef Jerhoff, born to Lorenz Jerhoff and Angela Brenesel around 1879? > Staša > > On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Linda Sohl <lesohl.home@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Thanks so much, Dave, Stasa and others who emailed me offline, for the >> excellent suggestions. I’d been feeling very frustrated — I found all those >> other Jerhoffs, too, Dave, but can't be certain of connections without >> being able to pin down Josef (and his father Lorenz). Now I feel like I >> have some direction again. How I love this group! :-) >> >> Cheers, >> Linda >> >> >> >> On Mar 24, 2017, at 4:47 PM, ddreyer@pacbell.net wrote: >> >> Linda, Stasa, >> I checked the Ernsthausen KBs and could verify your marriage data for >> Josef Jerhoff. >> I searched the family books/KBs for Jerhoff, in Gr Betschkerek, Sartscha, >> Johannisfeld and Offsenitza without finding any Jerhoff entries. There >> were Jehoffs in Stefansfeld, Klek/Lazarfeld and Dolatz/Gier---------a big >> bunch in Gier but no family Lorenz Jerhoff and Angela Brenesel, the parents >> of Josef. >> It is highly likely that Stasa is correct-------Perlas is the place to >> look for your guy. >> Dave Dreyer >> >> >> >> *From: *Stasa Cvetkovic <synergia@gmail.com> >> *Sent: *Friday, March 24, 2017 9:38 AM >> *To: *Dave Dreyer <ddreyer@pacbell.net> >> *Cc: *Linda Sohl <lesohl.home@gmail.com>; Banat-L@rootsweb.com >> *Subject: *Re: [BANAT-L] Botosch records? >> >> Hello! >> Botoš (Botosch) was predominantly Serbian village and it never had the >> parish. According to late Ft. Eros Lajos' book about the history of RC >> Parishes within today Nagybecskerek Bishopric (the book was published in >> 1993), Roman Catholics born in Botoš were baptized in Perlez (Perlas, >> Perlasz) until the establishment of Ernstahusen parish, which then >> parochially covered RC in Botoš. But since you have checked Ernsthausen >> records and he was not baptized there, maybe it is worthwhile to check >> Etschka and few other nearby places (Dave made a good suggestion, I would >> just add Perlas, too) Best of luck! >> Staša Cvetković, Synergia >> >> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 3:54 AM, <ddreyer@pacbell.net> wrote: >> >> Linda, >> If I have it right Botosch(Botos) is located on the Temesch a bit south >> of Ernsthausen. >> In addition to Setschan and Ernsthausen, Sartscha, D Etschka, and >> Sigmundfeld are other German villages in the neighborhood. However, so far >> as I am aware, Botosch KB records are not included in any of these >> places. This leads to the view, in my mind, that Botosch must be a stand >> alone parish and that one would have to search for the KBs probably in the >> NeuSatz archives. >> Dave Dreyer >> >> >> >> From: Linda Sohl >> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:32 AM >> To: ddreyer@pacbell.net >> Cc: Banat-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Botosch records? >> Hi Dave, >> >> There isn’t a family book for Botosch, so I was wondering about the >> church records themselves - whether Botosch kept its own over some period >> of time, or whether all births were recorded in a parish elsewhere. A good >> suggestion I got from Rudolf Hüpfl to try the Setschan records >> unfortunately yields no information - Josef Jerhoff isn’t in the birth >> index for any time around 1879, the year he was born. >> >> Cheers, >> Linda >> >> >> >> On Mar 20, 2017, at 6:10 PM, ddreyer@pacbell.net wrote: >> >> >> Linda, >> A list of Banat family books can be found at Banatbooks.com >> <http://banatbooks.com/> >> Dave Dreyer >> >> >> From: Linda Sohl >> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 10:04 AM >> To: Mailingliste Banat-L >> Subject: [BANAT-L] Botosch records? >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> I’m having trouble tracking down the birth record of my >> great-grandfather, Josef Jerhoff, and I’m hoping someone can suggest a next >> step. >> >> All of Josef's siblings (that I know of) were born in Ernsthausen from >> 1881 onward, and Josef himself was married there in 1908, but his marriage >> record says he was from Botosch (born 1879). Is there actually a Botosch >> KB, or would birth records from there have been included in some other >> town’s records? >> >> Cheers, >> Linda >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> -- >> *Stasa Cvetkovic* >> *http://www.synergia.rs/ <http://www.synergia.rs/>* >> *Tel/fax: +381 21 553 265 <+381%2021%20553265>* >> *Mobile: +381 62 598 517 <+381%2062%20598517>* >> *Novi Sad, Serbia* >> >> *Visit our webpage <http://www.synergia.rs/>* >> >> >> > > > -- > *Stasa Cvetkovic* > *http://www.synergia.rs/ <http://www.synergia.rs/>* > *Tel/fax: +381 21 553 265 <+381%2021%20553265>* > *Mobile: +381 62 598 517 <+381%2062%20598517>* > *Novi Sad, Serbia* > > > *Visit our webpage <http://www.synergia.rs/>* > > > -- *Stasa Cvetkovic* *http://www.synergia.rs/ <http://www.synergia.rs/>* *Tel/fax: +381 21 553 265* *Mobile: +381 62 598 517* *Novi Sad, Serbia* *Visit our webpage <http://www.synergia.rs/>*

Thanks so much for your offer to call the archive, Stasa. I can confirm that I’m looking for Josef Jerhoff, born circa 1879 to Lorenz Jerhoff and Elisabeth Samson (Angela Brenesel is actually Josef’s wife from Ernsthausen). Some details on Josef’s parents, in case it helps: I have no record of Elisabeth and Lorenz’s marriage. They had a total of five additional children born in Ernsthausen between 1881 and 1889. I don’t know if Josef was the only child not born in Ernsthausen, but he is the oldest as far as I know. For Elisabeth Samson, I know she was born in Tschestereg in 1854, and that she later remarried in 1906 in Ernsthausen, to Paul Merle. For Lorenz Jerhoff, I have only his name from both the record of Josef’s marriage to Angela Brenesel in Ernsthausen, and the US marriage record for one of Josef’s sisters. I’ve looked through the Ernsthausen death records from 1895-1916 and can’t find him, so I’m thinking he may have died between 1889 and 1895. Cheers, Linda On Mar 25, 2017, at 12:53 PM, Stasa Cvetkovic <synergia@gmail.com> wrote: > Linda, I will make a phone call to a lady in the Archive in Zrenjanin to take a look in Perlas records. Just please confirm that we are looking for Josef Jerhoff, born to Lorenz Jerhoff and Angela Brenesel around 1879? Staša > > On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Linda Sohl <lesohl.home@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks so much, Dave, Stasa and others who emailed me offline, for the excellent suggestions. I’d been feeling very frustrated — I found all those other Jerhoffs, too, Dave, but can't be certain of connections without being able to pin down Josef (and his father Lorenz). Now I feel like I have some direction again. How I love this group! :-) > > Cheers, > Linda > > > > On Mar 24, 2017, at 4:47 PM, ddreyer@pacbell.net wrote: > >> Linda, Stasa, >> I checked the Ernsthausen KBs and could verify your marriage data for Josef Jerhoff. >> I searched the family books/KBs for Jerhoff, in Gr Betschkerek, Sartscha, Johannisfeld and Offsenitza without finding any Jerhoff entries. There were Jehoffs in Stefansfeld, Klek/Lazarfeld and Dolatz/Gier---------a big bunch in Gier but no family Lorenz Jerhoff and Angela Brenesel, the parents of Josef. >> It is highly likely that Stasa is correct-------Perlas is the place to look for your guy. >> Dave Dreyer >> >> >> >> From: Stasa Cvetkovic >> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 9:38 AM >> To: Dave Dreyer >> Cc: Linda Sohl; Banat-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Botosch records? >> >> Hello! >> Botoš (Botosch) was predominantly Serbian village and it never had the parish. According to late Ft. Eros Lajos' book about the history of RC Parishes within today Nagybecskerek Bishopric (the book was published in 1993), Roman Catholics born in Botoš were baptized in Perlez (Perlas, Perlasz) until the establishment of Ernstahusen parish, which then parochially covered RC in Botoš. But since you have checked Ernsthausen records and he was not baptized there, maybe it is worthwhile to check Etschka and few other nearby places (Dave made a good suggestion, I would just add Perlas, too) Best of luck! >> Staša Cvetković, Synergia >> >> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 3:54 AM, <ddreyer@pacbell.net> wrote: >> Linda, >> If I have it right Botosch(Botos) is located on the Temesch a bit south of Ernsthausen. >> In addition to Setschan and Ernsthausen, Sartscha, D Etschka, and Sigmundfeld are other German villages in the neighborhood. However, so far as I am aware, Botosch KB records are not included in any of these places. This leads to the view, in my mind, that Botosch must be a stand alone parish and that one would have to search for the KBs probably in the NeuSatz archives. >> Dave Dreyer >> >> >> >> From: Linda Sohl >> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 4:32 AM >> To: ddreyer@pacbell.net >> Cc: Banat-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Botosch records? >> >> Hi Dave, >> >> There isn’t a family book for Botosch, so I was wondering about the church records themselves - whether Botosch kept its own over some period of time, or whether all births were recorded in a parish elsewhere. A good suggestion I got from Rudolf Hüpfl to try the Setschan records unfortunately yields no information - Josef Jerhoff isn’t in the birth index for any time around 1879, the year he was born. >> >> Cheers, >> Linda >> >> >> >> On Mar 20, 2017, at 6:10 PM, ddreyer@pacbell.net wrote: >> >> >> Linda, >> A list of Banat family books can be found at Banatbooks.com >> Dave Dreyer >> >> >> From: Linda Sohl >> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 10:04 AM >> To: Mailingliste Banat-L >> Subject: [BANAT-L] Botosch records? >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> I’m having trouble tracking down the birth record of my great-grandfather, Josef Jerhoff, and I’m hoping someone can suggest a next step. >> >> All of Josef's siblings (that I know of) were born in Ernsthausen from 1881 onward, and Josef himself was married there in 1908, but his marriage record says he was from Botosch (born 1879). Is there actually a Botosch KB, or would birth records from there have been included in some other town’s records? >> >> Cheers, >> Linda >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> -- >> Stasa Cvetkovic >> http://www.synergia.rs/ >> Tel/fax: +381 21 553 265 >> Mobile: +381 62 598 517 >> Novi Sad, Serbia >> >> Visit our webpage > > > > > -- > Stasa Cvetkovic > http://www.synergia.rs/ > Tel/fax: +381 21 553 265 > Mobile: +381 62 598 517 > Novi Sad, Serbia > > Visit our webpage