Banat literature for sale; 1 Mercydorf Heimatbook by Lorenz Klugesherz et al, 1987, with area maps. 620 pp. Mint condition. $45 plus postage 2 Friedhofsbuch Giseladorf by Mathias Egler et al 2003 still sealed the original rapper. $10 plus postage 3 Ulmbach-Neupetsch(Heimatbuch) by Anton Kraemer and Josef Kupi, 1987, 471 pp, with village plan in end sheets. Near mint condition. $25 plus postage Dave Dreyer

Darlene, Hermann Magdalena, dau of Johann Hermann and M Kaharina NN *21 Dec 1772 Sackelhausen I don’t fine any evidence of Maximillane Klein in Sakelhausen. Dave Dreyer From: djones000@fuse.net Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 12:26 PM To: Banat@rootsweb.com Subject: [BANAT-L] Sackelhausen look up I am looking for the birth information of Magdalena Hermann. I believe she was born 21 Dec 1772 Sackelhausen, and she married Adam Mussler.Trying to find information on her parents. I am also looking for the birth information of Maximillane Klein who I also believe was born in Sackelhausen in 1738, and she was married to Johann Mussler.Trying to find information on her parents. Any help would be appreciated.Darlene Broomall ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Darlene, From the Saclelhausen Familiebuch by Petter Hummel & Nikolaus Fuhry (2007) info for Magdalena HERMANN: Page 641 3212 HERMANN Johann *1744 in Trierischen +22.11.1801 Sackelhausen oo 1766 Sackelhausen NN Maria Katharina *1738 +17.05.1808 Jahrmarkt children: 1. Michael *26.11.1767 Sacklhsn 1oo 1789 Gertrud PRACHMANN 2oo 1792 Anna Maria FELDIN 2. Anna Maria *05.07.1770 Sacklhsn oo 1789 Jakob PROCHMANN 3. Magdalena *21.12.1772 Sacklhsn oo 1791 Adam MUSSLER 4. Johann *30.09.1775 Sacklhsn +13.11.1777 Sacklhsn 5. Barbara *26.03.1778 Sacklhsn +01.12.1778 Sacklhsn 6. Johann *23.11.1779 Sacklhsn +06.05.1780 Sacklhsn 7. Peter *14.04.1781 Sacklhsn +07.02.1782 Sacklhsn 8. Gertrud *31.03.1783 Sacklhsn +07.11.1783 Sacklhsn 9. Adam *23.09.1785 Sacklhsn oo 1805 Margaretha POTYE Page 1415 7032 MUSSLER Adam *16.02.1769 Neubeschenowa oo 01.03.1791 Neubeschenowa HERMANN Magdalena, dau of Johann H. & Anna Maria NN *21.12.1772 Sacklhsn children: 1. Magdalena [no info provided for birth or death] 2. Katharina *06.06.1792 Sacklhsn +22.04.1794 Sacklhsn #84 3. Johann Adam *16.02.1794 Sacklhsn 84 Maximillane KLEIN — I didn’t find a marriage to Johann MUSSLER in Sackelhausen. She couldn’t have been born in Sackelhausen since the town wasn’t founded until 1766. I hope this is helpful, —Karen > On Jul 28, 2017, at 3:21 PM, djones000@fuse.net wrote: > > I am looking for the birth information of Magdalena Hermann. I believe she was born 21 Dec 1772 Sackelhausen, and she married Adam Mussler.Trying to find information on her parents. > I am also looking for the birth information of Maximillane Klein who I also believe was born in Sackelhausen in 1738, and she was married to Johann Mussler.Trying to find information on her parents. > Any help would be appreciated.Darlene Broomall

I am looking for the birth information of Magdalena Hermann. I believe she was born 21 Dec 1772 Sackelhausen, and she married Adam Mussler.Trying to find information on her parents. I am also looking for the birth information of Maximillane Klein who I also believe was born in Sackelhausen in 1738, and she was married to Johann Mussler.Trying to find information on her parents. Any help would be appreciated.Darlene Broomall

Hi Dick, The 1790 map has been found online, thanks to Dave Dreyer's tip for searching. The link below will take you to the map, which can be downloaded and enlarged clear enough to be read. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Das_Temeschwarer_Bannat_1790.jpg Eileen On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 6:27 AM, Richard Barak <hiriseguy@email.com> wrote: > Dave, > What a wonderful web page. Thanks for the link. > Dick Barak > St. Francis, MN > "Where everybody knows your name" > <i>Dick Barak<br>St Francis, MN<br></i><br><br> > > > *Sent:* Monday, July 24, 2017 at 10:33 PM > *From:* Dreyer <ddreyer@pacbell.net> > *To:* "Eileen - genealogy" <mybanat@gmail.com>, "Banat-L@rootsweb.com" < > Banat-L@rootsweb.com> > *Subject:* Re: [BANAT-L] Map inside Nakodorf Famienbuch Cover > Eileen, > If you put Banat Karte into Google you will get a panel of endless Banat > maps. > Dave Dreyer > > > > From: Eileen - genealogy > Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 10:38 PM > To: Banat - List > Subject: [BANAT-L] Map inside Nakodorf Famienbuch Cover > > The inside cover of the Nakodorf und Lunga in Banat Famienbuch by Nikolaus > Horn Teil 2 is an interesting map of Das Temeschwarer Bannat. > > The detail of districts and topography interests me. Given the significant > amount of map detail, the copy within the book cover is not the easiest to > read. > > Is anyone on the aware of where this map may be viewed online? > > Eileen Lund-Johnson > . > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

A extensive article in the 20th May Banater Post. Describes the current status of stork studies in the Banat, particularly in Mercydorf and Gertianosch. A Webcam watching a nest in Gertianosch can be found on Youtube at www.wildliferomania.com. Dave Dreyer

Eileen, If you put Banat Karte into Google you will get a panel of endless Banat maps. Dave Dreyer From: Eileen - genealogy Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 10:38 PM To: Banat - List Subject: [BANAT-L] Map inside Nakodorf Famienbuch Cover The inside cover of the Nakodorf und Lunga in Banat Famienbuch by Nikolaus Horn Teil 2 is an interesting map of Das Temeschwarer Bannat. The detail of districts and topography interests me. Given the significant amount of map detail, the copy within the book cover is not the easiest to read. Is anyone on the aware of where this map may be viewed online? Eileen Lund-Johnson . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The inside cover of the Nakodorf und Lunga in Banat Famienbuch by Nikolaus Horn Teil 2 is an interesting map of Das Temeschwarer Bannat. The detail of districts and topography interests me. Given the significant amount of map detail, the copy within the book cover is not the easiest to read. Is anyone on the aware of where this map may be viewed online? Eileen Lund-Johnson .

Darlene. Klein Georg, son of Georg Klein and Barbara NN *22 Jun 1801 +24 Sep 1865 1oo 16 Jan 1825 Mussler Katharina, dau of Adam Mussler and Magd Hermann *5 May 1801 Neubeschenowa +15 Apr 1832 1 Elisabeth *3 Nov 1825 oo 1846 Anton Willwerth 2 Georg *9 Oct 1829 +10 Aug 1836 3 Johann *26 Nov 1831 oo 1890 Anna Divo 2oo 3 Jun 1832 Mueller Katharina, wid of Kerier *1804 Billed +27 Dec 1881 Seven kids born in Gerianosch Dave Dreyer From: djones000@fuse.net Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 1:29 PM To: Banat@rootsweb.com Subject: [BANAT-L] Gertianosch look up Could someone please look in the Gertianosch FB for a marriage record between Georgius Klein and Catharina Musler.I believe they were married in 1825. Any other information on Georgius and Catharina would be appreciated.I believe they son Johannes was also born in Gertianosch.Thanking you in advance.Darlene Broomall ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Could someone please look in the Gertianosch FB for a marriage record between Georgius Klein and Catharina Musler.I believe they were married in 1825. Any other information on Georgius and Catharina would be appreciated.I believe they son Johannes was also born in Gertianosch.Thanking you in advance.Darlene Broomall

Hello, I'm looking for some guidance from my fellow Banat researchers. According to Quieser's Katreinfeld-St. Georgen FB (1997), Martin Ritter (#2675) was born in 1783 in "Niskydorf". I was able to check the Nitzydorf FB (Schmadl, 2002) and besides not finding Martin Ritter, I found that the village was established and settled in 1785. Martin couldn't have been born there in 1783. There are Reitter families there and the Sammelwerk Stader book has a Jakob Ritter and family listed as going to Nitzydorf (#44225). So I'm thinking Martin was born before and his family moved to Nitzydorf when he was a toddler. Any thoughts on where else I can look for his birth... where would the settling families of Nitzydorf have lived before moving to the village in 1785? Or any gaps or flaws in my research/thinking? Martin married twice and had a bunch of kids in Kathreinfeld. I have the Kathreinfeld FB entries. Just trying to go backwards with him. Thanks in advance. Trish Stumpf Garcia

Mark, Michael Bohn is listed in both the older St. Hubert FB by Kuehn (as the son of Stephen Bohn and grandson of Michael Bohn or Bon) and I can scan those pages later and send to you. In the newer FB by Karen Dalton Preston and David Dreyer that covers later years, Michael has his own listing, but it appears he went to Schag and Paratz, with none of his 8 children being born in St. Hubert (so there is no detail, and you would have to consult the FBs for those villages). I can scan that page for you, too, and anything else that looks related--there are about 12 pages of Bohns, and a more detailed listing for Michael's father Stephen/Stefan, which shows children Franziska and Elisabeth born 1841 and 1843, respectively. When I can get the FBs and a scanner together, I'll send the pertinent pages to you! Regards, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Zajac" <mazajac97@gmail.com> To: Banat-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 9:24:21 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] St. Hubert/Charleville Look-Up: BOHN If anyone has access to the Familienbuch St.Hubert – Charleville – Seultour im Banat 1836 – 1943, I'd appreciate if a look-up could be done for me on the surname BOHN. I'm interested in any entries under that name, but I'm specifically looking for information on the following persons: - Michael BOHN, *8 Jan 1831 in Charleville - Franziska BOHN, *c. 1840 and moved to Ruskodorf - Elisabeth BOHN, *c. 1845 and moved to Ruskodorf - Elisabeth BOHN, *c. 1878 and moved to Molidorf Thanks in advance for your assistance! Regards, Mark Zajac ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear List members, I’ve received a couple of inquiries off-list about Stasa’s upcoming visit to the US and his lecture dates. The dates are now just a few weeks away! Here is the info. Stasa will be hosted by the Romanian Genealogy Society, and the lectures will take place at the Minnesota Genealogical Society in South St. Paul. Two days of lectures are scheduled. The dates for the lectures are set for 31 July for German-related presentations and 1 August for Romanian-related presentations. All the details can be found by following of this link: http://romaniangenealogy.com/special-guest-presentation/ Please note that advance registration is required. Best, —Karen Preston

If anyone has access to the Familienbuch St.Hubert – Charleville – Seultour im Banat 1836 – 1943, I'd appreciate if a look-up could be done for me on the surname BOHN. I'm interested in any entries under that name, but I'm specifically looking for information on the following persons: - Michael BOHN, *8 Jan 1831 in Charleville - Franziska BOHN, *c. 1840 and moved to Ruskodorf - Elisabeth BOHN, *c. 1845 and moved to Ruskodorf - Elisabeth BOHN, *c. 1878 and moved to Molidorf Thanks in advance for your assistance! Regards, Mark Zajac

In my research on the widespread Hipfl/Hupfel/Huepfel family, I got some hints that some of them settled also in Ujvar. Is there anybody who could check the family book of Uivar for any Hupfel/Hipfl offsprings and send me related scans. The basis for the idea is linked with the move of a Decker family from Triebswetter to Ujvar before they immigrated to Pennsylvania in 1908. A girl (Margaretha) from this family (Josef Decker & Magdalena) married later on a Christian Hupfel and immigrated in 1910 into Cleveland. Thank you in advance for your assistance Rudolf HUEPFL Vienna, Austria

Hi Rick, I have a copy of Herkunftsorte der Buchberger Kolonisten. Peter Titenhofer and Anna Maria Montamol appear in the list of confirmed places of origin. The document is in German but I had added the titles in English. I'll email it to you separately. Kathy Plourde -----Original Message----- From: BANAT [mailto:banat-bounces+daveplourde=rogers.com@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of banat-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2017 9:12 PM To: banat@rootsweb.com Subject: BANAT Digest, Vol 12, Issue 132 Send BANAT mailing list submissions to banat@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/banat or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to banat-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at banat-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of BANAT digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Tittenhofer/Didenheber/Dittenheber in Buchberg or Neuhof (Jeanette and Rick Bachmann) 2. Ransom of ethnic Germans in Romania (ddreyer@pacbell.net) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2017 17:04:32 -0600 From: Jeanette and Rick Bachmann <jbachmann4@gmail.com> To: BANAT@rootsweb.com Subject: [BANAT-L] Tittenhofer/Didenheber/Dittenheber in Buchberg or Neuhof Message-ID: <9A140734-E45F-4FCC-BD6F-439F950D4FE8@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Looking for help finding information on my Tittenhofer/Didenheber/Dittenheber family in Buchberg or Neuhof records. According to Stader, Peter Tittenhofer (b 3.2.1771 Gross Jetscha) married Anna Maria Montaniol in Buchberg on 2.1.1796. I am hoping they are the parents my ancestor Peter Tittenhofer born abt 1799 location unknown. The name and timing seem about right. Does anyone have access to records of Buchberg or Neuhof (Bogda) that could look for this family for me or recommend a place to look? Thanks very much. Rick Bachmann ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2017 18:08:55 -0700 From: <ddreyer@pacbell.net> To: "Banat-L@rootsweb.com" <Banat-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [BANAT-L] Ransom of ethnic Germans in Romania Message-ID: <911904.47440.bm@smtp219.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" In the last year or so details on a highly secret program are coming to light designed to ransom ethnic Germans in Romania and release them in order to migrate to West Germany. Massive amounts of money in cash was paid to agents of the Romanian secret service, the Securate. Over ca 20 year period amounts approaching 1 Billion DM(that?s with a B) were transferred to the Securata in order to secure exit visas for Donauschwabens and Siebenburger Saxons. The amounts demanded by the Romanians depended on the education level of those being released. The funds received appeared to go into the pockets of Romanian Security apparatus which was used to exercise control of the population on the same order as the Stasi in East Germany. Deutsche Welle has produced a number of TV programs describing this operation including a four part series ?Teuer Freikauf?. These are all available on You Tube, of course, in German. Now Deutsche Welle has produced an abbreviated English version under the title, ?A secret Cold War Deal between Romania?..?. You don?t need to type the complete title into You Tube before the program will come up. Dave Dreyer ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer To contact the BANAT list administrator, send an email to BANAT-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the BANAT mailing list, send an email to BANAT@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. ------------------------------ End of BANAT Digest, Vol 12, Issue 132 ************************************** --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

In the last year or so details on a highly secret program are coming to light designed to ransom ethnic Germans in Romania and release them in order to migrate to West Germany. Massive amounts of money in cash was paid to agents of the Romanian secret service, the Securate. Over ca 20 year period amounts approaching 1 Billion DM(that’s with a B) were transferred to the Securata in order to secure exit visas for Donauschwabens and Siebenburger Saxons. The amounts demanded by the Romanians depended on the education level of those being released. The funds received appeared to go into the pockets of Romanian Security apparatus which was used to exercise control of the population on the same order as the Stasi in East Germany. Deutsche Welle has produced a number of TV programs describing this operation including a four part series “Teuer Freikauf”. These are all available on You Tube, of course, in German. Now Deutsche Welle has produced an abbreviated English version under the title, “A secret Cold War Deal between Romania…..”. You don’t need to type the complete title into You Tube before the program will come up. Dave Dreyer

Looking for help finding information on my Tittenhofer/Didenheber/Dittenheber family in Buchberg or Neuhof records. According to Stader, Peter Tittenhofer (b 3.2.1771 Gross Jetscha) married Anna Maria Montaniol in Buchberg on 2.1.1796. I am hoping they are the parents my ancestor Peter Tittenhofer born abt 1799 location unknown. The name and timing seem about right. Does anyone have access to records of Buchberg or Neuhof (Bogda) that could look for this family for me or recommend a place to look? Thanks very much. Rick Bachmann

Fred, I visited the Institut some years ago, perhaps, ca 2004. The institute is a serious academic dept. geared to research on various aspects of DS history and culture. If you go to their website you can get an idea of the expertise of various faculty. These are all busy people and you would likely need to have a well defined problem in order to get their attention(including an advance appointment). My contact was Josef Wolf who has considerable expertise in Banat military matters. I found their librarian very helpful, but, at least at than time, their library was limited in the usual material of interest to family history researchers. They has the usual card catalogue and their stacks were closed but the librarian had every thing within minutes. I think she didn’t have much else to do that day. This is all so long ago that perhaps matters are more developed. If you are interested in just DS family history you can’t do better than the AKdFF archives in Sindelfingen. If you go to Tuebingen let us know your impresions. Dave Dreyer Dear list members: Has anyone worked with or attended any of the programs of the 'Institut für Donauschwäbische Geschichte und Landeskunde' in Tübingen? Thanks, Fred Nagelbach               fnagel@saic.edu -- ƒ®e∂/dorothy   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message