Help is needed to find a marriage record for my great aunt Elisabetha Servo to Menyolt Renon in the Banat. I'd also like to find birth records for her three daughters Katharina, Barbara and Rosa who were born in the Banat. Here is what I know: Familienbuch Deutsch Zerne record 10228 lists Elisabetha's birth in 1866. She is my grandfather's older sister. According to passenger list records she came to Detroit in 1921 with her three daughters Katharina, Barbara and Rosa, but her husband was not with her. Those records indicate they were coming from Heufeld, but there is no record of them in the Heufeld Family Book. Curiously, the Heufeld FB record R048 lists another Elisabeth Servo married to a Melchoir Renon. But that person is shown to have died in 1909 and is not my great aunt. The David Dreyer emigration list on rootsweb shows the family came from Billed with two of the daughters born there and the oldest daughter born in Minaei, which is not in the list of Banat villages. Katharina filed for citizenship in 1954 and lists her birthplace as Nemit, Saint Michael, Hungary, which is today called Sânmihaiu German, Romania. Is there another book for this place? Regards, Larry Fischer

Reinholdt Lovasz, after many years of work has now completed and published the Bakowa family book.  It is a two volume set which does not include Filialen.  These will be available later as a CD.The price is 105 Euro for the two volume set and 39 Euro for postage to the United States.The set can be ordered through the Bakowa website or directly fromReinholdt LovaszSchwetzinger Str 32Plankstadt68723Germany  Dave Dreyer

Should know the context the term was used. "Zeitgeist" is the thinking and feeling of people within a determined historical epoch. For example, Zeitgeist which was ruling during the 40th, the centuries turn and so on. The combination of Zeitgeist and ancestry ("Abstammung") doesn't make sense without context. Reinhold Am 16.09.2017 um 09:07 schrieb Cathy Deschu: > A cousin just asked me what "zeitgeist ancestry" is. I've never heard the term before. After googling zeitgeist, I got the impression it refers to "the time" a person lived ... such as famine, war, slavery, pharaoh rule, witch or vampire hysteria. > > Anyone heard of this term. Know what it means. > > Hugs > Cathy Deschu > > . > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Reinhold Benedik Kolpingstr. 2 D-72250 Freudenstadt

Guten Tag und vielen Dank. Wo bekommt man noch Bilder von Anna Massong ? Anna Massong geborene Mayer geboren am 12.8.1886 2017-09-07 1:01 GMT+02:00 Kurt <kurtsgenmail@yahoo.com>: > Wonderful, Thank you for clearing that up Karen Dalton Preston.. > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* "anleptich@aol.com" <anleptich@aol.com> > *To:* Karen@golden-hills.com; kurtsgenmail@yahoo.com > *Cc:* banat@rootsweb.com; dellmatthias@gmail.com; DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES@ > rootsweb.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 6, 2017 6:41 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [BANAT-L] Anna Massong > > I have many Massong ancestors, but am not clear on the original request. > Nor do I speak or read German. Therefore, if someone could state the > original request about information on the Massong line I would be happy to > share anything I might have collected through the years of looking for them. > > Anne Leptich (married to Ron whose paternal grandmother was Eva Massong > from Neupanat) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Karen Dalton Preston <Karen@golden-hills.com> > To: Kurt <kurtsgenmail@yahoo.com> > Cc: Banat email list <banat@rootsweb.com>; dellmatthias < > dellmatthias@gmail.com>; DVHH <DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wed, Sep 6, 2017 5:57 am > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Anna Massong > > The MASSONG and MUSCHONG surnames are derived from very different roots. > MASSONG was originally the French MASSON MUSCHONG was originally MOUGEON or > MOUGON, becoming MUSCHON, and eventually MUSCHONG. Both surnames originated > in the French province of Lorraine. —Karen > On Sep 6, 2017, at 5:27 AM, > Kurt <kurtsgenmail@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Just curious if anyone knows is > MUSSONG and MUSCHONG are the same family in the Banat? Seems like a radicle > (pre -Banat) spelling change, but all seem to be from the same general area > near St Hebert / Szecsenfalva etc.. My thought was the spellings were from > antiquity... Does the Stader list the colonist name name Massong Mussong > Muschong ///// under "one" name or... "both" / similar spellings? Thank You > > > From: Judith Ottinger <ottinger515@sbcglobal.net> > To: 'Glenn > Schwartz' <gschwartz@accesscomm.ca>; 'Banat email list' < > banat@rootsweb.com>; 'DVHH' <DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES@rootsweb.com>; > dellmatthias@gmail.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 8:48 PM > > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Anna Massong > > Ancestry has a Stefan Massong and > Anna Massong who left from Hamburg and arrived in New York 6 March 1910 on > the Ship President Lincoln going to St. Paul, Minnesota. According to the > Hamburg ship manifest Stefan was born in Lazarfold & Anna in Szecsenfalva. > Steven & Anna are in the 1910 Census but I haven't been able to find them > in the 1920 Census. > > Judy > > -----Original Message----- > From: BANAT [ > mailto:banat-bounces+ottinger515=sbcglobal.net@rootsweb.com > <banat-bounces+ottinger515=sbcglobal.net@rootsweb.com?>] On Behalf Of > Glenn Schwartz > Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 2:21 PM > To: Banat email > list <banat@rootsweb.com>; DVHH <DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES@rootsweb.com>; > dellmatthias@gmail.com > Subject: [BANAT-L] Anna Massong > > Matthias > Dell, a contact of mine from Germany, is seeking help tracking down Anna > Massong (born Mayer) who immigrated to Minnesota after WWII. > His original > German message and a Google translation are below. His email address is > included above. > > Meine Uroma Anna Massong ist nach dem Krieg in die USA > ausgewandert. > Sie hat dort in Minnesota gewohnt und ist dort auch > gestorben. > An wen kann man sich wenden um an Melde oder Sterbedaten zu > kommen? > > My Uroma Anna Massong emigrated to the USA after the war. > She > lived there in Minnesota and died there. > Who can you turn to for > registration or stereotypes? > > -- > Glenn Schwartz > > President, > Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) > Searching: > Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, > Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, > Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in > Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, > Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. > Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please > send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, > please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, > please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send > an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Anne, there have been several helpful replies to this already, but it would be great if you can add more... Matthias Dell, a contact of mine from Germany, is seeking help tracking down Anna Massong (born Mayer) who immigrated to Minnesota after WWII. His original German message and a Google translation are below. His email address is included above. Meine Uroma Anna Massong ist nach dem Krieg in die USA ausgewandert. Sie hat dort in Minnesota gewohnt und ist dort auch gestorben. An wen kann man sich wenden um an Melde oder Sterbedaten zu kommen? My Uroma Anna Massong emigrated to the USA after the war. She lived there in Minnesota and died there. Who can you turn to for registration or stereotypes? Glenn Schwartz President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca On 9/6/2017 4:41 PM, anleptich@aol.com wrote: > I have many Massong ancestors, but am not clear on the original request.  Nor do I speak or read German.  Therefore, if someone could state the original request about information on the Massong line I would be happy to share anything I might have collected through the years of looking for them. > > Anne Leptich (married to Ron whose paternal grandmother was Eva Massong from Neupanat) >

I have many Massong ancestors, but am not clear on the original request.  Nor do I speak or read German.  Therefore, if someone could state the original request about information on the Massong line I would be happy to share anything I might have collected through the years of looking for them. Anne Leptich (married to Ron whose paternal grandmother was Eva Massong from Neupanat) -----Original Message----- From: Karen Dalton Preston <Karen@golden-hills.com> To: Kurt <kurtsgenmail@yahoo.com> Cc: Banat email list <banat@rootsweb.com>; dellmatthias <dellmatthias@gmail.com>; DVHH <DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Sep 6, 2017 5:57 am Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Anna Massong The MASSONG and MUSCHONG surnames are derived from very different roots. MASSONG was originally the French MASSON MUSCHONG was originally MOUGEON or MOUGON, becoming MUSCHON, and eventually MUSCHONG. Both surnames originated in the French province of Lorraine. —Karen > On Sep 6, 2017, at 5:27 AM, Kurt <kurtsgenmail@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Just curious if anyone knows is MUSSONG and MUSCHONG are the same family in the Banat? Seems like a radicle (pre -Banat) spelling change, but all seem to be from the same general area near St Hebert / Szecsenfalva etc.. My thought was the spellings were from antiquity... Does the Stader list the colonist name name Massong Mussong Muschong ///// under "one" name or... "both" / similar spellings? Thank You > > From: Judith Ottinger <ottinger515@sbcglobal.net> > To: 'Glenn Schwartz' <gschwartz@accesscomm.ca>; 'Banat email list' <banat@rootsweb.com>; 'DVHH' <DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES@rootsweb.com>; dellmatthias@gmail.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 8:48 PM > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Anna Massong > > Ancestry has a Stefan Massong and Anna Massong who left from Hamburg and arrived in New York 6 March 1910 on the Ship President Lincoln going to St. Paul, Minnesota. According to the Hamburg ship manifest Stefan was born in Lazarfold & Anna in Szecsenfalva. Steven & Anna are in the 1910 Census but I haven't been able to find them in the 1920 Census. > > Judy > > -----Original Message----- > From: BANAT [mailto:banat-bounces+ottinger515=sbcglobal.net@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Schwartz > Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 2:21 PM > To: Banat email list <banat@rootsweb.com>; DVHH <DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES@rootsweb.com>; dellmatthias@gmail.com > Subject: [BANAT-L] Anna Massong > > Matthias Dell, a contact of mine from Germany, is seeking help tracking down Anna Massong (born Mayer) who immigrated to Minnesota after WWII. > His original German message and a Google translation are below. His email address is included above. > > Meine Uroma Anna Massong ist nach dem Krieg in die USA ausgewandert. > Sie hat dort in Minnesota gewohnt und ist dort auch gestorben. > An wen kann man sich wenden um an Melde oder Sterbedaten zu kommen? > > My Uroma Anna Massong emigrated to the USA after the war. > She lived there in Minnesota and died there. > Who can you turn to for registration or stereotypes? > > -- > Glenn Schwartz > > President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) > Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. > Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Guys, since you have an exact date of birth, try with FB (not Facebook ;) Hatzfeld, St. Hubert, Mastort, Heufeld .... I had few cases with whole bunch of Massongs, all coming from a.m. areas. Of course, they can be scattered across many more places around, but it does not hurt to check those FB. Hopefully, you will find something useful in USA sources. Good luck! By the way, for everyone that may be interested - I have met Sorin Fortiu yesterday in Timisoara. He is writing a series of articles for various historical magazines and he is preparing a book about the historical evolution of "banships"(banovina - after which Banat got its name) as I undestood :) Take care! Staša On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:47 AM, Linda Sohl <lesohl.home@gmail.com> wrote: > For the Anna Massong mentioned below who died on April 1, 1964, the > Minnesota Death Index (1908-2002) available through Ancestry.com gives the > following personal information: > > Name: Anna Massong > Birth Date: 12 Aug 1886 > Death Date: 29 Apr 1964 > Death County: Ramsey > Mother's Maiden Name: Exner > State File Number: 029813 > Certificate Number: 029813 > Certificate Year:1964 > Record Number: 1567608 > > Source Information > Ancestry.com. Minnesota, Death Index, 1908-2002 [database on-line]. Provo, > UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2001. > Original data: State of Minnesota. Minnesota Death Index, 1908-2002. > Minneapolis, MN, USA: Minnesota Department of Health. > > > > There is also information about her naturalization: > > Name: Anna Massong > Birth Date: 12 Aug 1886 > Country of Origin: Yugoslavia > Naturalization Date: 20 Feb 1957 > Naturalization Location: St. Paul, Minnesota > Registration Number: 8139444 > > Source Information > Ancestry.com. U.S., Index to Alien Case Files at the National Archives at > Kansas City, 1944-2003 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com > Operations, Inc., 2013. > Original data: Index to Alien Case Files at the National Archives at > Kansas City, compiled ca. 1975–2012, documenting the period 1944– 2003. > Data file. Records of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service > (USCIS)., Record Group 566. National Archives and Records Administration, > Washington, D.C. > > > Unfortunately there are no digital images of original documents available. > > > Cheers, > Linda > > > > On Sep 4, 2017, at 6:34 PM, Monika via DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES < > donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Sometimes you can find information just googling the name. Here are > obits for two Anna Massongs. I'm very rushed right now so I didn't have > time to do a trial subscription to open the first obit which is probably > your oma but the second was born in Yugoslavia so there may be some > relation. > > > > https://newspaperarchive.com/obituarysearchresult?&page=1& > resultperpage=10&firstname=anna&lastname=massong&location=minnesota/ > > > > Premium Content > > > > Start a 7 Day Trial > > Anna MassongViewSaveTag > > Died on: Apr 01,1964 > > People Listed in This Obit: Anna Massong > > Record Location: Minnesota > > > > http://leamington.reidfuneralhome.ca/tribute/details/2414/Anna-Massong/ > obituary.html > > > > Obituary of Anna Massong > > > > Massong: Anna > > > > A resident of Leamington, Anna Massong passed away on Wednesday, January > 13, 2016 at the Sun Parlor Home for Senior Citizens at the age of 87. She > was born in Yugoslavia and was the daughter of the late Peter and Elizabeth > Massong. Dear sister of Michael Massong and his late wife Olga. Anna will > also be dearly missed her nieces and nephews- David Wehby and his late wife > Barbara, Bob and Helen DeMaeyer, Susan Massong, Debbie Massong and Richard > Schiefer- and her great nieces and nephews-Michael Whittal , Ashley Whittal > and Jarod Schiefer, David Wehby and Lisa Wehby. Predeceased by her nephew > Michael Massong. Family gathered at St. Joseph's Church, 310 Sherk St. on > Friday, January 15, 2016 at 10:30 a.m. until the Mass of the Resurrection > at 11:00 a.m. Interment followed at Erie Memorial Cemetery, Leamington. > Memorial donations to the Leamington District Memorial Hospital > Foundation-Hospice would be appreciated by the family. Friends may send > condolences or make a charitable contribution at www.reidfuneralhome.ca > Arrangements entrusted to the Reid Funeral Home and Reception Centre, 14 > Russell Street, Leamington (519 326-2631). > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Fran Matkovich via > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES > > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 1:59 PM > > To: 'Glenn Schwartz' ; 'Banat email list' ; 'DVHH' ; > dellmatthias@gmail.com > > Subject: Re: [DVHH] [BANAT-L] Anna Massong > > > > The following Anna Massong are from Familysearch.org , a free website. > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count= > 20&query=%2Bgivenname%3AAnna~%20%2Bsurname%3AMassong~ > > > > Fran Matkovich > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BANAT [mailto:banat-bounces+mjm1021=comcast.net@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Glenn Schwartz > > Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 2:21 PM > > To: Banat email list <banat@rootsweb.com>; DVHH <DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES@ > rootsweb.com>; dellmatthias@gmail.com > > Subject: [BANAT-L] Anna Massong > > > > Matthias Dell, a contact of mine from Germany, is seeking help tracking > down Anna Massong (born Mayer) who immigrated to Minnesota after WWII. > > His original German message and a Google translation are below. His > email address is included above. > > > > Meine Uroma Anna Massong ist nach dem Krieg in die USA ausgewandert. > > Sie hat dort in Minnesota gewohnt und ist dort auch gestorben. > > An wen kann man sich wenden um an Melde oder Sterbedaten zu kommen? > > > > My Uroma Anna Massong emigrated to the USA after the war. > > She lived there in Minnesota and died there. > > Who can you turn to for registration or stereotypes? > > > > -- > > Glenn Schwartz > > > > President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) > > Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, > Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in > Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, > Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in > Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. > > Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Stasa Cvetkovic* *http://www.synergia.rs/ <http://www.synergia.rs/>* *Tel/fax: +381 21 553 265* *Mobile: +381 62 598 517* *Novi Sad, Serbia* *Visit our webpage <http://www.synergia.rs/>*

Anna Massong d. May 1964 Age 77 lived 1910 Sargent Ave The Minneapolis Star Minneapolis, Minnesota Friday, May 8, 1964 From: Glenn Schwartz <gschwartz@accesscomm.ca> To: Banat email list <banat@rootsweb.com>; DVHH <DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES@rootsweb.com>; dellmatthias@gmail.com Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 2:21 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] Anna Massong Matthias Dell, a contact of mine from Germany, is seeking help tracking down Anna Massong (born Mayer) who immigrated to Minnesota after WWII. His original German message and a Google translation are below. His email address is included above. Meine Uroma Anna Massong ist nach dem Krieg in die USA ausgewandert. Sie hat dort in Minnesota gewohnt und ist dort auch gestorben. An wen kann man sich wenden um an Melde oder Sterbedaten zu kommen? My Uroma Anna Massong emigrated to the USA after the war. She lived there in Minnesota and died there. Who can you turn to for registration or stereotypes? -- Glenn Schwartz President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

According to Minnesota Historical Society death index at www.mnhs.org, Anna Massong died 29 April 1964 in Ramsey County, Minnesota. Related surname on the death index is Exner. I did not find her memorial in MN on Findagrave.com. I don't understand German or the last line about registration or stereotypes (probably a Google-ism). Vicki Albu -----Original Message----- From: BANAT [mailto:banat-bounces+valbu=comcast.net@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Schwartz Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 1:21 PM To: Banat email list <banat@rootsweb.com>; DVHH <DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES@rootsweb.com>; dellmatthias@gmail.com Subject: [BANAT-L] Anna Massong Matthias Dell, a contact of mine from Germany, is seeking help tracking down Anna Massong (born Mayer) who immigrated to Minnesota after WWII. His original German message and a Google translation are below. His email address is included above. Meine Uroma Anna Massong ist nach dem Krieg in die USA ausgewandert. Sie hat dort in Minnesota gewohnt und ist dort auch gestorben. An wen kann man sich wenden um an Melde oder Sterbedaten zu kommen? My Uroma Anna Massong emigrated to the USA after the war. She lived there in Minnesota and died there. Who can you turn to for registration or stereotypes? -- Glenn Schwartz President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Matthias Dell, a contact of mine from Germany, is seeking help tracking down Anna Massong (born Mayer) who immigrated to Minnesota after WWII. His original German message and a Google translation are below. His email address is included above. Meine Uroma Anna Massong ist nach dem Krieg in die USA ausgewandert. Sie hat dort in Minnesota gewohnt und ist dort auch gestorben. An wen kann man sich wenden um an Melde oder Sterbedaten zu kommen? My Uroma Anna Massong emigrated to the USA after the war. She lived there in Minnesota and died there. Who can you turn to for registration or stereotypes? -- Glenn Schwartz President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca

Is the list-manager functional? Tried to unsubscribe this e-mail-address and resubscribe another. Does not work... Michael

Dear Dave Dreyer, I would like to buy three of the books listed in yesterday’s email from the Banat Digest vol 12 issue 150, if they are available. Will you please instruct me as to how I may make this purchase? "Pioneers and their Sons” George Aberle 1966 $55.00 “Alsace Emigration” Schrader-Muggenthaler 1991 $25.00 “Klek” Geschichte der Gemeinde 1818-1944 Lorenz Lang, Munchen 1977 $15.00 Thank you for your help. Sincerely, Diane Robinson

Hello Dave: If still available, I would be interested in getting these 2 books: 1. "Pioneers and their Sons", George Aberle, 1966 Two volume set.. ?Dickinson ND ? ? ?$55Family histories of Germans from Russia and from Hungary who homesteaded in SW North Dakota8. ?"Das Banat und die Banat Schwaben Vol 3 Trachten und Brauchtum", Nikolaus Engelmann et al. ?Marquartstein 1986 Landsmannschaft der Banater Schwaben, ?570 pp. ?$40 Postage additional.Dave Dreyer Thank you, Thomas C. Thornton, M.D. P.O. Box 314 Upper Sandusky, Ohio 43351

Hi Dave, I'm interested in the Prinz Eugen book if it is still available, as long as it is in English. I'll write you directly. -- Darlene http://www.dvhh.org/membership/associates.htm#D Scott Aaron wrote: > <<5. "Prinz Eugen, the History of the 7th SS Mountain Division", Otto Kumm, 1995 Winnipeg MB In English $50A history of the Partisan suppression campaigns in Yugoslavia in World War II. With maps and heavily illustrated.The many illustrations picture the rugged terrain under the the campaigns were conducted. The 7th SS was recruited mainly from Donauschwabes and Siebenburgers.>> > > Maybe this is covered in the book, but having read a little about the history of this division, is there a general idea of a percentage of Donauschwaben men (of age) from the Banat that volunteered or were conscripted into this division? In other words, if you were a 25 year old Donauschwab male in the Banat in the early 1940's, would you very likely have been conscripted into this division, or would it still have been a relatively small portion of that population? > > Scott > > From: David Dreyer <ddreyer@pacbell.net> > To: BANAT List <banat-l@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 7:55 PM > Subject: [BANAT-L] More Donauschwaben literature for sale > > > > 1. "Pioneers and their Sons", George Aberle, 1966 Two volume set.. Dickinson ND $55Family histories of Germans from Russia and from Hungary who homesteaded in SW North Dakota > 2. "Guttenbrunn", Nikolaus Geiss,1985 Self Published, Ulm $60Guttenbrunn Heimatbuch with much data on settlers from the Oldenwald > 3. "Weprowatzer Heimatblatter 2001 $2 > 4. "Alsace Emigration" Schrader-Muggenthaler 1991, two volume set $25 > 5. "Prinz Eugen, the History of the 7th SS Mountain Division", Otto Kumm, 1995 Winnipeg MB In English $50A history of the Partisan suppression campaigns in Yugoslavia in World War II. With maps and heavily illustrated.The many illustrations picture the rugged terrain under the the campaigns were conducted. The 7th SS was recruited mainly from Donauschwabes and Siebenburgers. > 6. "Temeschburg im Bombenhagel", Egon Gassner, no date. Privately printed, ms format. $4An account of two bombing raids(one English and one American) on Temeswar in 1944. > 7. "Klek", Geschichte der Gemeinde, 1818-1944, Lorenz Lang, Muenchen 1977. $15Heimatbuch for Klek, Contains one of the most useful, complete and well produced Ortsplan to be found in any Banat Heimatbuch. > 8. "Das Banat und die Banat Schwaben Vol 3 Trachten und Brauchtum", Nikolaus Engelmann et al. Marquartstein 1986 Landsmannschaft der Banater Schwaben, 570 pp. $40 > Postage additional.Dave Dreyer > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

<<5. "Prinz Eugen, the History of the 7th SS Mountain Division", Otto Kumm, 1995 Winnipeg MB  In English   $50A history of the Partisan suppression campaigns in Yugoslavia in World War II.  With maps and heavily illustrated.The many illustrations picture the rugged terrain under the the campaigns were conducted.   The 7th SS was recruited mainly from Donauschwabes and Siebenburgers.>> Maybe this is covered in the book, but having read a little about the history of this division, is there a general idea of a percentage of Donauschwaben men (of age) from the Banat that volunteered or were conscripted into this division? In other words, if you were a 25 year old Donauschwab male in the Banat in the early 1940's, would you very likely have been conscripted into this division, or would it still have been a relatively small portion of that population? Scott From: David Dreyer <ddreyer@pacbell.net> To: BANAT List <banat-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 7:55 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] More Donauschwaben literature for sale 1. "Pioneers and their Sons", George Aberle, 1966 Two volume set..  Dickinson ND      $55Family histories of Germans from Russia and from Hungary who homesteaded in SW North Dakota 2. "Guttenbrunn", Nikolaus Geiss,1985 Self Published, Ulm              $60Guttenbrunn Heimatbuch with much data on settlers from the Oldenwald 3.  "Weprowatzer Heimatblatter 2001                                   $2 4. "Alsace Emigration" Schrader-Muggenthaler 1991, two volume set    $25 5. "Prinz Eugen, the History of the 7th SS Mountain Division", Otto Kumm, 1995 Winnipeg MB  In English   $50A history of the Partisan suppression campaigns in Yugoslavia in World War II.  With maps and heavily illustrated.The many illustrations picture the rugged terrain under the the campaigns were conducted.   The 7th SS was recruited mainly from Donauschwabes and Siebenburgers. 6. "Temeschburg im Bombenhagel", Egon Gassner, no date.  Privately printed, ms format.             $4An account of two bombing raids(one English and one American) on Temeswar in 1944. 7.  "Klek", Geschichte der Gemeinde, 1818-1944, Lorenz Lang, Muenchen 1977.                             $15Heimatbuch for Klek,  Contains one of the most useful, complete and well produced Ortsplan to be found in any Banat Heimatbuch. 8.  "Das Banat und die Banat Schwaben Vol 3 Trachten und Brauchtum", Nikolaus Engelmann et al.  Marquartstein 1986 Landsmannschaft der Banater Schwaben,  570 pp.  $40 Postage additional.Dave Dreyer     ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello David, I would be interested in the 4. "Alsace Emigration" Schrader-Muggenthaler 1991, two volume set ? ?$25 Paul Frank

1. "Pioneers and their Sons", George Aberle, 1966 Two volume set..  Dickinson ND      $55Family histories of Germans from Russia and from Hungary who homesteaded in SW North Dakota 2. "Guttenbrunn", Nikolaus Geiss,1985 Self Published, Ulm              $60Guttenbrunn Heimatbuch with much data on settlers from the Oldenwald 3.  "Weprowatzer Heimatblatter 2001                                   $2 4. "Alsace Emigration" Schrader-Muggenthaler 1991, two volume set    $25 5. "Prinz Eugen, the History of the 7th SS Mountain Division", Otto Kumm, 1995 Winnipeg MB  In English   $50A history of the Partisan suppression campaigns in Yugoslavia in World War II.  With maps and heavily illustrated.The many illustrations picture the rugged terrain under the the campaigns were conducted.   The 7th SS was recruited mainly from Donauschwabes and Siebenburgers. 6. "Temeschburg im Bombenhagel", Egon Gassner, no date.  Privately printed, ms format.             $4An account of two bombing raids(one English and one American) on Temeswar in 1944. 7.  "Klek", Geschichte der Gemeinde, 1818-1944, Lorenz Lang, Muenchen 1977.                             $15Heimatbuch for Klek,  Contains one of the most useful, complete and well produced Ortsplan to be found in any Banat Heimatbuch. 8.  "Das Banat und die Banat Schwaben Vol 3 Trachten und Brauchtum", Nikolaus Engelmann et al.  Marquartstein 1986 Landsmannschaft der Banater Schwaben,  570 pp.  $40 Postage additional.Dave Dreyer    

Is your Harvath family from eastern PA? I have a copy of a family photo from Lehigh Valley area. Took a screen shot when I saw it on ebay. Hated for the descendants not to get it. Hugs

I apologize. Someone did a Deschu lookup for me. I promised to look for her family in my Johannisfeld Familienbuch. I had loaned it out and just got it back. Now I can't find her email with her address and the names she wanted me to lookup. Email me again with the names. Sorry. Hugs Cathy Deschu

Could someone please look up the following entries in Stader for me? Stader A-D 08272 Johann/JeanDivo /Dibo/Tibo or other alternate spellingVienna May 8,1767 from Biberkirch,Lothringen Stader look-up Heinrich Schmitt/Schmidt May 1766 from Luxemburg Stader look-up- Theodore Wittmer/Wittmer WK 69/116May 1766 from Luxemburg Thank you very much. Any help would be appreciated.Darlene Broomall