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YES, go to the Ballinstadt Emigration Museum, it is wonderful. HAMBURG PORT OF IMMIGRANT DREAMS Ballin-Stadt Emigration Museum Hamburg Many families can trace their ancestry to the successive waves of immigration from Europe. Seeking religious freedom, escape from famine, war or persecution, the chance for riches or just the opportunity for something better. Before 1850 much of the immigrant ships which carried the hopefuls from Germany embarked from ports in Amsterdam, Rotterdam and Bremen. In 1847 the HAPAG shipping line "Hamburg American Packet Company" was founded in the northern Germany port city of Hamburg. Convenient to reach by the Elbe River from the east and by railroad, Hamburg rapidly became the most important emigration port in Germany from 1850 to 1934 and the HAPAG line one of the most successful shipping companies in the world, renamed the Hamburg-America Line in 1893. Between 1846 and 1857 more than one million Germans emigrated to the United States, mostly small farmers from Southern Germany and farm laborers from East Germany and by 1814, over five million had left, most on ships of the Hamburg America Line (Hamburg Amerika Linie). In 1901 the shipping line opened an "Immigration City", a complex of buildings with lodging and dining halls to handle the rush from Eastern Europe, Poland and Russia with room of 5,000 immigrants at a time in its Immigration Halls (Auswandererhallen) waiting for the next ship to America, even including a synagogue for the many Jewish immigrants escaping the Czarist pogroms of Russia. In 2007 three reconstructed buildings of the former Immigration Halls of the Hamburg-America Line re-opened as a museum exhibition dedicated to this past and named for the company's managing director Albert Ballin who guided it. The BallinStadt Emigration Museum Hamburg located on Vedel Island in the harbor complex of the Elbe River (See Hamburg Harbor) with an S-Bahn station at the Wilhelmsburger Bridge nearby will present photographic displays and records of Hamburg's part in the immigration story, in both its hopeful and darker sides. For those seeking their ancestral history from a European past whose ancestors left Europe from Poland, the Baltic states, Russia and even Switzerland, Denmark, Sweden and Finland between 1836 until 1934, may discover relatives passed through the portals of the HAPAG "Auswandererstadt". ----- Original Message ----- From: <banat-request@rootsweb.com> To: <banat@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 3:02 AM Subject: BANAT Digest, Vol 5, Issue 27 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Pastor Reichard's Hungarian Experience (Rosina T Schmidt) > 2. Hamburg (MARY ANN HUESER) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:29:24 -0800 > From: "Rosina T Schmidt" <rosinats@shaw.ca> > Subject: [BANAT-L] Pastor Reichard's Hungarian Experience > To: <Banat@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <AF177B835BC44D17A0D2C0B70B143E78@odChrisi> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > > Hello, > > More on Pastor Reichard's Hungarian experience in Banat in 1724 we can > read on www.hrastovac.net pages via the Bulletin-Board. > > Greetings from Vancouver Island, > > Rosina > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:19:16 +0000 > From: MARY ANN HUESER <mahueser@hotmail.com> > Subject: [BANAT-L] Hamburg > To: <banat-l@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <COL104-W148BDF87B119749A85207BDF620@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Hello All, > > > > I'm planning to be in Hamburg in May, and was wondering if they have some > > time of emmigration Museum there. My great-grandparents left from there > in > > 1903. (I have been to the one in Bremerhaven and it is great.) > > Any ideas/suggestions on what to see and do would be appreciated. > > > > Mary Ann > > > _________________________________________________________________ > New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. > http://windows.microsoft.com/shop > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BANAT list administrator, send an email to > BANAT-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BANAT mailing list, send an email to > BANAT@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of BANAT Digest, Vol 5, Issue 27 > ************************************ >
Hello All, I'm planning to be in Hamburg in May, and was wondering if they have some time of emmigration Museum there. My great-grandparents left from there in 1903. (I have been to the one in Bremerhaven and it is great.) Any ideas/suggestions on what to see and do would be appreciated. Mary Ann _________________________________________________________________ New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop
Hello, More on Pastor Reichard's Hungarian experience in Banat in 1724 we can read on www.hrastovac.net pages via the Bulletin-Board. Greetings from Vancouver Island, Rosina
Hello to all my Danube Swabian 'Cousins', While all our eyes are glued to the television watching the sad, sad news in Haiti, let us also think back on our own history, and here is the account of the first Lutheran Pastor in Banat: Pastor Johann Karl Reichard (1700-1743). Included are also the 18 families, who left with pastor Reichard in 1724 Gross Rohrheim in Landgrave of Hesse-Darmstadt and headed for Banat. Please see www.hrastovac.net via the Bulletin Board: Pastor Johann Karl Reichard. Rosina Vancouver Island
My roll call 2010 All of the family names are in the Batschka; Apatin, Batschsentiwan, Bukin, Gajdobra, Obrovacs, Palanka, Tscheb Original origin of some Settlers; Alsenbruck, Falkenstein, Franzreich, Sobernheim nr.Nussbaum, Oberachern, Oberhausen AMANN - Tscheb BAUMANN - Oberhausen(Germany) BAUTSCHEK - Batschsentiwan BECKER - Gajdobra BLATTNER - Oberhausen(Germany); Batschsentiwan; BOHL - Falkenstein (Germany) BRANDT - Oberhausen(Germany); Apatin; Batschsentiwan; Bukin; Palanka EISEMANN EY, Ei ? - Palanka FELDENZER, FELDTANZER, VELDENZER - Palanka; Sobernheim, Nussbaum (Germany); FISCHER - Apatin; Batschsentiwan FRICK, FRIK - Palanka FRISCH - Bukin; Firmung ? JAKS - Meskovics?; Obrovacs; Bukin; KLEIN KLEINER - Gajdobra; LANDSMANN MACK - Batschsentiwan MEHRMACHER - Alsenbruck (Germany); Apatin; Batschsentiwan MERGEL MICHL - Apatin OSWALD - Tscheb; Palanka; PFEIFFER - Palanka SCHADL - Franzreich; Tscheb; Obrovacs; Palanka; SCHANINGER - Gajdobra; Tscheb; Bukin SCHAUER - Gajdobra SCHESSER - Karavukovo; Tscheb SCHUBERT - Palanka STOFFNER - Bukin; Gajdobra WARNUSS - Oberachern (Germany); Hodschag WEBER - Apatin; WILLWOHL - Palanka WINKLER - Palanka I would welcome hearing from anyone that has information on any of these family names. I love to meet my distant cousins. On most of these lines I have information back to the original settler but am looking for information on where the families came from in the German Empire. I thank all that have helped me along the way JoAnne Schadl Jansen Back in Sunny Southern Arizona
Anton Zimmermann B. 1675 married Weitges Deimott B. 1675 Parents of Johann Zimmermann B. August 24, 1704 in Dattenberg, Germany D. June 5, 1784 Michael Agnes B. in Deutsch Bentschek married Elisabeta Werner Parents of Elisabetha Agnes B. August 5, 1861 in Deutsch Bentschek married Andreas Wagner January 21, 1879 Anton Wagner B. 1780 Deutsch Bentschek D. July 17, 1830 married Elisabeth Fechtbeutel B. November 2, 1791 in Neuarad D. 1836 in Deutsch Bentschek Elisabeta (Eresebet) Pfister B. may 11, 1857 in Scharloteburk married Anton (Antal) Wagner B. February 13, 1851 in Deutsch Bentschek
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Looking for any RINGWALD surnames from Banat. Bob in Stone Mountain, GA Robert S. (Bob) Duggan, Jr. r.duggan@ieee.org (genealogy) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~duggan/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <banat-request@rootsweb.com> To: <banat@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 4:35 PM Subject: BANAT Digest, Vol 5, Issue 23 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:21:03 +0100 > From: "Thomas Willand" <twbrainstorm@web.de> > Subject: [BANAT-L] WG: [DVHH] Roll Call 2010 - Kolut, Csatalja, > Hajos, > Ewatingen, Oggelshausen > To: <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <E1NWXs6-0004aA-00@smtp05.web.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > >...
>> AMBERG Anna: Anton: Bernhard: Ignaz: Juliana: Katharina: Stefan; Amberg Kolut >> AMREIN Johann: Magdalena; >> BARTH Anton: Eva: Georg: Johann: Katharina: Michael: Nikolaus; Barth Kolut >> BORN Margarete; Born Kolut >> BRAUN Andreas: Barbara: Elisabeth: Josef: Katharina: Valentin; Braun Kolut >> BURGER Maria; Burger Ewatingen >> DORER Georg: Johann; Dorer Kolut >> ECKERT Lucia; Eckert Kolut >> FALLER Katharina; Faller Kolut >> FELDES Angela: Anna Maria: Barbara: Johann: Juliana: Katharina: Maria: Peter; >> FLEISCHER Barbara; Fleischer Kolut >> FOLLMER Barbara: Johann; >> FROEHLICH Anton: Jakob: Josef: Lorenz: Peter: Theresia: Wendelin; Fröhlich Kolut >> GATTI Maria; Gatti Kolut >> GLEICH Adam: Katharina; Gleich Kolut >> GRIESHABER Christian: Franziska: Katharina: Magdalena: Margarete: Theresia; Grieshaber Kolut >> GROSS Eva; Groß Csatalja; Lothringen >> HEFELI Margarethe; Hefeli Kolut >> HELMLI Andreas: Rosalia; Helmli Kolut >> HEROLD Anna Maria: Johann: Juliana: Magdalena: Michael; Herold Kolut >> HUCK Katharina: Stefan; Huck Kolut >> JILLICH Maria; >> KAUFMANN Josef: Juliana: Katharina: Ludwig: Maria: Maria Anna; Kaufmann Kolut >> KEBERT Theresia; Kebert Kolut >> KELLER Eva: Heinrich: Marianne: Stefan: Theresia: Keller Karlsruhe; Kolut; Waging am See; >> KELSCH Johann: Katharina; Kienzler Katharina; Kelsch Kolut >> KNIPL Barbara: Maria Anna; Knipl Kolut >> LANG Anna; >> LEIFER Mathias: Theresia; Leifer Csatalja >> LIMBURGER Katharina; Limburger Kolut >> MANN Anna: Anton: Johann: Josef: Maria: Nikolaus: Rosa: Rosalia: Thomas; Mann Kolut >> MARK Maria Anna; >> MAYER Anna Maria: Maria Anna; Mayer Csatalja; Kolut; Oggelshausen / Federsee >> MUELLER Alexius: Elisabeth: Jakob: Katharina: Margaritha: Michael: Ottilia: Peter; Müller Achdorf ; Ewatingen >> NEDLER Anna Maria; Nedler Kolut >> NISCHT Florian: Jakob: Johann: Magdalena; Nischt Kolut >> PFAFF Christian: Genoveva: Katharina: Maria Anna; Pfaff Kolut >> PFEIFENROTH Magdalena; Pfeifenroth Kolut >> PRINDL Anton: David; >> RAMINGER Maria Anna; Raminger Csatalja >> RANG Johann: Kaspar: Maria: Thomas; Rang Kolut >> REEB Franz: Josef; Reeb Kolut >> REINER Anna: Johann: Susanne; Reiner Kolut >> RUSCH Johann: Katharina; Rusch Kolut >> SCHMIDT Anna: Balthasar: Margarethe; Schmidt Kolut >> SCHNEIDER Anna; >> SCHNELL Maria Anna; Schnell Kolut >> SCHUBERT Marianne; Schubert Kolut >> STEPHAN Maria; Stephan Kolut >> STETZ Andreas: Georg: Katharina: Rosalia; Stetz Kolut >> SZLAVICSKA Anna: Georg: Josef: Katharina: Lorenz; >> TILLSCHNEIDER Josef: Maria: Maria Anna: Theresia; Tillschneider Kolut >> WAGNER Maria; Wagner Kolut >> WIELAND Adam: Anna Maria: Anton: Elisabeth: Eva: Helena Magdalena: Johann: Johann Michael: Josef: Katharina: Margarete: Martin: Mathias: Regina: Rosalia: Susanne: Wendelin; Wieland Kolut; Csatalja; Hajos; Grodt; Oggelshausen / Federsee Thank you for taking time to look this over. If there are any connections, would love to hear from you. Thomas Willand Germany ================================================================ www.thomaswilland.de Familien: Willand, Mann, Fröhlich, Rang, Reiner, Reep, Reeb Orte: Kolut (Kulut, Ringdorf, Küllöt, Kolluth, Küllöd, Kulud, Kis-Kolut, Nagy-Koluth) ================================================================
Just click on the British flag icon in the upper right hand corner.....it's a great site, and we've needed one for Austria like this for ages! Bill K. In a message dated 1/17/2010 12:17:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, ldorrheim@bis.midco.net writes: Is this site available in English for those who can't read German? Nancy Dorrheim -----Original Message----- From: banat-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:banat-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of banat-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 2:02 AM To: banat@rootsweb.com Subject: BANAT Digest, Vol 5, Issue 22 Today's Topics: 1. Introduction of GenTeam www.GenTeam.at (IHFF) 2. Roll Call 2010 Batschka area Kolut, Backi Breg Csatalja (Judy Ottinger) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 10:34:18 +0100 From: "IHFF" <office@ihff.at> Subject: [BANAT-L] Introduction of GenTeam www.GenTeam.at To: <banat-l@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <5B65F761F04E42C8B6507177090031AF@IHFFPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear Members! With this email I introduce GenTeam <http://www.genteam.at/> www.GenTeam.at to you. GenTeam is an organization of genealogists or historians who produce databases on their own or as a part of a group, and who offer these databases to all researcher without any fee. GenTeam is a non-commercial organization! The geographical centre of the databases is the present-day Austria and its neighboring lands. The use of the databases is without any fee; only a simple registration is required. The collection curently contains 1.316.729 records and will be continually updated. Overview: 1 Index of Roman Catholic marriages of Vienna between 1542 and 1850/1860 about 840.000 records As the capital of the Austrian-Hungarian Dual Monarchy, Vienna gew considerably during the 19th century; from about 215.000 inhabitants in 1800 up to more than 2.1 million in 1910. Many migrated to Vienna, especially from the crown lands, and left here their genealogical tracks or staid in Vienna. 2 Owners of houses in Lower Austria in 1817 about 198.000 records >From 1817-1824 a complete survey of Lower Austria was made. All the protocols and maps still exist. They are a fantastic toll for each genealogist and historian. 3 Gazetteer of Czech, Austrian and Slovenian Republic about 62.000 records In this database you will find about 62.000 locations in Austria and in the Czech and Slovenian republics. It contains former and present names of locations, current and former parish affiliation, year that existing records begin, archival districts, and political districts or crownland. 4 Death Cards of soldiers from both World Wars about 12.700 records The death cards have been submitted by Mireille Trauner and contains genealogical information as well as pictures of the soldiers. 5 Index of Vital Statistics (church records) and seignorial records About 201.000 records This database contains records of different parishes/dominions of Lower Austria, Moravia and Slovak Republic. This database will be updated continually. You get a table of all parishes and dominions in the help-botton after a registration. If you have indices of church records of present-day Austria or neighboring lands, GenTeam would be glad if you will offer these records to GenTeam. If you have any questions, please, dont hesitate to contact me at kontakt@GenTeam.at. Please, send this information to any other mailing-list or archives. Thank you! With kind regards, Ing. Felix Gundacker genealogist Pantzergasse 30/8 A-1190 WIEN Tel = 0043 676 40 11 059 email: kontakt@GenTeam.at www.genteam.at <http://www.genteam.at/> www.ihff.at <http://www.ihff.at/> www.felixgundacker.at <http://www.felixgundacker.at/> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 23:27:22 -0500 From: "Judy Ottinger" <ottinger515@sbcglobal.net> Subject: [BANAT-L] Roll Call 2010 Batschka area Kolut, Backi Breg Csatalja To: <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <006e01ca972d$5d992300$18cb6900$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ANSTETT, Anna Veronika B. 1709 Pirmasens D. Feb. 7 1748 Vinningen, Rhineland Pfalz FELDES, Julianna B. Feb 16 1782 Kolut D: Aug 10 1847 Kolut HAFELE, Magdalena B: abt 1790 ? D: 1832 Kolut HECKENBERGER, Mathias B: abt 1782 ? D: 1841 Kolut HECKENBERGER, Michael B: abt 1812 ? D: 1880 Kolut HECKENBERGER, Andreas B: 1858 Kolut D: Michigan 1832 HECKENBERGER, Anna B: 1884 Kolut D: Florida 1979 KEIL, Peter B: abt 1791 ? D: 1849 Kolut KEIL, Maria Anna B: abt 1811 ? D: 1866 Kolut KELLER, Thomas B: abt 1787 ? D: 1856 Kolut KELLER, Theresia B: abt 1820 ? D: ? (Married in Kolut in 1840 to Josef Risili) KOCH, Katharina B:? D:? LAMM, Magdalena B: abt 1780? D: 1830 Kolut PFAFF, Stefan B: abt 1794 ? D: 1848 Kolut PFAFF, Anton B: 1828 Kolut D: 1883 Kolut PFAFF, Marianna B: 1859 Kolut D: 1906 Kolut PROSCHINGER, PRASCHINGER, PRASSINGER, BRASCHINGER, BRASSINGER Mathias, B: abt 1779 Moravia ? D: 1849 Backi Breg Mathias B: 1827 Csatalja D: 1885 Backi Breg Conrad B: 1853 Backi Breg D: 1899 Backi Breg Anton B: 1881 Backi Breg D: 1960 Michigan RISILI (Riesler, Riesel) Mathias B: Sept. 20, 1777 Kolut D: Oct 25 1840 Kolut Josef B: Sept 5 1819 Kolut D: 1873 Kolut Rosalie B: 1863 Kolut D: 1932 Detroit, Michigan SCHAUER, (Sauer), Christina B: abt 1824 Gakowa ? SCHILLING, Julianna B: 1836 Kolut, D: ? SPRENTZ, Magdalena B: abt 1732 Aus Riedelberg, Germany D: Dec 17, 1802 Csatalja WAGNER, Mathias B: ? D: April 26, 1733 Vinningen WAGNER, Friedrich Ernst B: Feb 20 1719 Vinningen, Baptized Feb. 23, 1719 Vinningen, D: June 1 1789 Csatalja WAGNER, Johann Jakob B: June 9 1749 Vinningen, Baptized June 26, 1749 Vinningen, D: Dec 22 1828 Csatalja WIRTH, Barbara B: ? D? WOLF (Volf Wolfl) Johanna B: ? D: ? Thanks everyone for taking time to look this over. If anyone sees a connection or has any questions, I would love to hear from you. Judy Ottinger St Clair Shores, Michigan ------------------------------ To contact the BANAT list administrator, send an email to BANAT-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Is this site available in English for those who can't read German? Nancy Dorrheim -----Original Message----- From: banat-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:banat-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of banat-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 2:02 AM To: banat@rootsweb.com Subject: BANAT Digest, Vol 5, Issue 22 Today's Topics: 1. Introduction of GenTeam www.GenTeam.at (IHFF) 2. Roll Call 2010 Batschka area Kolut, Backi Breg Csatalja (Judy Ottinger) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 10:34:18 +0100 From: "IHFF" <office@ihff.at> Subject: [BANAT-L] Introduction of GenTeam www.GenTeam.at To: <banat-l@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <5B65F761F04E42C8B6507177090031AF@IHFFPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear Members! With this email I introduce GenTeam <http://www.genteam.at/> www.GenTeam.at to you. GenTeam is an organization of genealogists or historians who produce databases on their own or as a part of a group, and who offer these databases to all researcher without any fee. GenTeam is a non-commercial organization! The geographical centre of the databases is the present-day Austria and its neighboring lands. The use of the databases is without any fee; only a simple registration is required. The collection curently contains 1.316.729 records and will be continually updated. Overview: 1 Index of Roman Catholic marriages of Vienna between 1542 and 1850/1860 about 840.000 records As the capital of the Austrian-Hungarian Dual Monarchy, Vienna gew considerably during the 19th century; from about 215.000 inhabitants in 1800 up to more than 2.1 million in 1910. Many migrated to Vienna, especially from the crown lands, and left here their genealogical tracks or staid in Vienna. 2 Owners of houses in Lower Austria in 1817 about 198.000 records From 1817-1824 a complete survey of Lower Austria was made. All the protocols and maps still exist. They are a fantastic toll for each genealogist and historian. 3 Gazetteer of Czech, Austrian and Slovenian Republic about 62.000 records In this database you will find about 62.000 locations in Austria and in the Czech and Slovenian republics. It contains former and present names of locations, current and former parish affiliation, year that existing records begin, archival districts, and political districts or crownland. 4 Death Cards of soldiers from both World Wars about 12.700 records The death cards have been submitted by Mireille Trauner and contains genealogical information as well as pictures of the soldiers. 5 Index of Vital Statistics (church records) and seignorial records About 201.000 records This database contains records of different parishes/dominions of Lower Austria, Moravia and Slovak Republic. This database will be updated continually. You get a table of all parishes and dominions in the help-botton after a registration. If you have indices of church records of present-day Austria or neighboring lands, GenTeam would be glad if you will offer these records to GenTeam. If you have any questions, please, dont hesitate to contact me at kontakt@GenTeam.at. Please, send this information to any other mailing-list or archives. Thank you! With kind regards, Ing. Felix Gundacker genealogist Pantzergasse 30/8 A-1190 WIEN Tel = 0043 676 40 11 059 email: kontakt@GenTeam.at www.genteam.at <http://www.genteam.at/> www.ihff.at <http://www.ihff.at/> www.felixgundacker.at <http://www.felixgundacker.at/> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 23:27:22 -0500 From: "Judy Ottinger" <ottinger515@sbcglobal.net> Subject: [BANAT-L] Roll Call 2010 Batschka area Kolut, Backi Breg Csatalja To: <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <006e01ca972d$5d992300$18cb6900$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ANSTETT, Anna Veronika B. 1709 Pirmasens D. Feb. 7 1748 Vinningen, Rhineland Pfalz FELDES, Julianna B. Feb 16 1782 Kolut D: Aug 10 1847 Kolut HAFELE, Magdalena B: abt 1790 ? D: 1832 Kolut HECKENBERGER, Mathias B: abt 1782 ? D: 1841 Kolut HECKENBERGER, Michael B: abt 1812 ? D: 1880 Kolut HECKENBERGER, Andreas B: 1858 Kolut D: Michigan 1832 HECKENBERGER, Anna B: 1884 Kolut D: Florida 1979 KEIL, Peter B: abt 1791 ? D: 1849 Kolut KEIL, Maria Anna B: abt 1811 ? D: 1866 Kolut KELLER, Thomas B: abt 1787 ? D: 1856 Kolut KELLER, Theresia B: abt 1820 ? D: ? (Married in Kolut in 1840 to Josef Risili) KOCH, Katharina B:? D:? LAMM, Magdalena B: abt 1780? D: 1830 Kolut PFAFF, Stefan B: abt 1794 ? D: 1848 Kolut PFAFF, Anton B: 1828 Kolut D: 1883 Kolut PFAFF, Marianna B: 1859 Kolut D: 1906 Kolut PROSCHINGER, PRASCHINGER, PRASSINGER, BRASCHINGER, BRASSINGER Mathias, B: abt 1779 Moravia ? D: 1849 Backi Breg Mathias B: 1827 Csatalja D: 1885 Backi Breg Conrad B: 1853 Backi Breg D: 1899 Backi Breg Anton B: 1881 Backi Breg D: 1960 Michigan RISILI (Riesler, Riesel) Mathias B: Sept. 20, 1777 Kolut D: Oct 25 1840 Kolut Josef B: Sept 5 1819 Kolut D: 1873 Kolut Rosalie B: 1863 Kolut D: 1932 Detroit, Michigan SCHAUER, (Sauer), Christina B: abt 1824 Gakowa ? SCHILLING, Julianna B: 1836 Kolut, D: ? SPRENTZ, Magdalena B: abt 1732 Aus Riedelberg, Germany D: Dec 17, 1802 Csatalja WAGNER, Mathias B: ? D: April 26, 1733 Vinningen WAGNER, Friedrich Ernst B: Feb 20 1719 Vinningen, Baptized Feb. 23, 1719 Vinningen, D: June 1 1789 Csatalja WAGNER, Johann Jakob B: June 9 1749 Vinningen, Baptized June 26, 1749 Vinningen, D: Dec 22 1828 Csatalja WIRTH, Barbara B: ? D? WOLF (Volf Wolfl) Johanna B: ? D: ? Thanks everyone for taking time to look this over. If anyone sees a connection or has any questions, I would love to hear from you. Judy Ottinger St Clair Shores, Michigan ------------------------------ To contact the BANAT list administrator, send an email to BANAT-admin@rootsweb.com. 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No, but I've had some luck using the babel fish site to translate it a whole page at a time. The grammar is off in the translations, but you can get the basic idea. --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Larry Dorrheim <ldorrheim@bis.midco.net> wrote: From: Larry Dorrheim <ldorrheim@bis.midco.net> Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] BANAT Digest, Vol 5, Issue 22 To: banat@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, January 17, 2010, 3:17 PM Is this site available in English for those who can't read German? Nancy Dorrheim -----Original Message----- From: banat-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:banat-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of banat-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 2:02 AM To: banat@rootsweb.com Subject: BANAT Digest, Vol 5, Issue 22 Today's Topics: 1. Introduction of GenTeam www.GenTeam.at (IHFF) 2. Roll Call 2010 Batschka area Kolut, Backi Breg Csatalja (Judy Ottinger) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 10:34:18 +0100 From: "IHFF" <office@ihff.at> Subject: [BANAT-L] Introduction of GenTeam www.GenTeam.at To: <banat-l@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <5B65F761F04E42C8B6507177090031AF@IHFFPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear Members! With this email I introduce GenTeam <http://www.genteam.at/> www.GenTeam.at to you. GenTeam is an organization of genealogists or historians who produce databases on their own or as a part of a group, and who offer these databases to all researcher without any fee. GenTeam is a non-commercial organization! The geographical centre of the databases is the present-day Austria and its neighboring lands. The use of the databases is without any fee; only a simple registration is required. The collection curently contains 1.316.729 records and will be continually updated. Overview: 1 Index of Roman Catholic marriages of Vienna between 1542 and 1850/1860 about 840.000 records As the capital of the Austrian-Hungarian Dual Monarchy, Vienna gew considerably during the 19th century; from about 215.000 inhabitants in 1800 up to more than 2.1 million in 1910. Many migrated to Vienna, especially from the crown lands, and left here their genealogical tracks or staid in Vienna. 2 Owners of houses in Lower Austria in 1817 about 198.000 records From 1817-1824 a complete survey of Lower Austria was made. All the protocols and maps still exist. They are a fantastic toll for each genealogist and historian. 3 Gazetteer of Czech, Austrian and Slovenian Republic about 62.000 records In this database you will find about 62.000 locations in Austria and in the Czech and Slovenian republics. 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Please, send this information to any other mailing-list or archives. Thank you! With kind regards, Ing. Felix Gundacker genealogist Pantzergasse 30/8 A-1190 WIEN Tel = 0043 676 40 11 059 email: kontakt@GenTeam.at www.genteam.at <http://www.genteam.at/> www.ihff.at <http://www.ihff.at/> www.felixgundacker.at <http://www.felixgundacker.at/> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 23:27:22 -0500 From: "Judy Ottinger" <ottinger515@sbcglobal.net> Subject: [BANAT-L] Roll Call 2010 Batschka area Kolut, Backi Breg Csatalja To: <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <006e01ca972d$5d992300$18cb6900$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ANSTETT, Anna Veronika B. 1709 Pirmasens D. Feb. 7 1748 Vinningen, Rhineland Pfalz FELDES, Julianna B. Feb 16 1782 Kolut D: Aug 10 1847 Kolut HAFELE, Magdalena B: abt 1790 ? D: 1832 Kolut HECKENBERGER, Mathias B: abt 1782 ? D: 1841 Kolut HECKENBERGER, Michael B: abt 1812 ? D: 1880 Kolut HECKENBERGER, Andreas B: 1858 Kolut D: Michigan 1832 HECKENBERGER, Anna B: 1884 Kolut D: Florida 1979 KEIL, Peter B: abt 1791 ? D: 1849 Kolut KEIL, Maria Anna B: abt 1811 ? D: 1866 Kolut KELLER, Thomas B: abt 1787 ? D: 1856 Kolut KELLER, Theresia B: abt 1820 ? D: ? (Married in Kolut in 1840 to Josef Risili) KOCH, Katharina B:? D:? LAMM, Magdalena B: abt 1780? D: 1830 Kolut PFAFF, Stefan B: abt 1794 ? D: 1848 Kolut PFAFF, Anton B: 1828 Kolut D: 1883 Kolut PFAFF, Marianna B: 1859 Kolut D: 1906 Kolut PROSCHINGER, PRASCHINGER, PRASSINGER, BRASCHINGER, BRASSINGER Mathias, B: abt 1779 Moravia ? D: 1849 Backi Breg Mathias B: 1827 Csatalja D: 1885 Backi Breg Conrad B: 1853 Backi Breg D: 1899 Backi Breg Anton B: 1881 Backi Breg D: 1960 Michigan RISILI (Riesler, Riesel) Mathias B: Sept. 20, 1777 Kolut D: Oct 25 1840 Kolut Josef B: Sept 5 1819 Kolut D: 1873 Kolut Rosalie B: 1863 Kolut D: 1932 Detroit, Michigan SCHAUER, (Sauer), Christina B: abt 1824 Gakowa ? SCHILLING, Julianna B: 1836 Kolut, D: ? SPRENTZ, Magdalena B: abt 1732 Aus Riedelberg, Germany D: Dec 17, 1802 Csatalja WAGNER, Mathias B: ? D: April 26, 1733 Vinningen WAGNER, Friedrich Ernst B: Feb 20 1719 Vinningen, Baptized Feb. 23, 1719 Vinningen, D: June 1 1789 Csatalja WAGNER, Johann Jakob B: June 9 1749 Vinningen, Baptized June 26, 1749 Vinningen, D: Dec 22 1828 Csatalja WIRTH, Barbara B: ? D? WOLF (Volf Wolfl) Johanna B: ? D: ? Thanks everyone for taking time to look this over. If anyone sees a connection or has any questions, I would love to hear from you. Judy Ottinger St Clair Shores, Michigan ------------------------------ To contact the BANAT list administrator, send an email to BANAT-admin@rootsweb.com. 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ANSTETT, Anna Veronika B. 1709 Pirmasens D. Feb. 7 1748 Vinningen, Rhineland Pfalz FELDES, Julianna B. Feb 16 1782 Kolut D: Aug 10 1847 Kolut HAFELE, Magdalena B: abt 1790 ? D: 1832 Kolut HECKENBERGER, Mathias B: abt 1782 ? D: 1841 Kolut HECKENBERGER, Michael B: abt 1812 ? D: 1880 Kolut HECKENBERGER, Andreas B: 1858 Kolut D: Michigan 1832 HECKENBERGER, Anna B: 1884 Kolut D: Florida 1979 KEIL, Peter B: abt 1791 ? D: 1849 Kolut KEIL, Maria Anna B: abt 1811 ? D: 1866 Kolut KELLER, Thomas B: abt 1787 ? D: 1856 Kolut KELLER, Theresia B: abt 1820 ? D: ? (Married in Kolut in 1840 to Josef Risili) KOCH, Katharina B:? D:? LAMM, Magdalena B: abt 1780? D: 1830 Kolut PFAFF, Stefan B: abt 1794 ? D: 1848 Kolut PFAFF, Anton B: 1828 Kolut D: 1883 Kolut PFAFF, Marianna B: 1859 Kolut D: 1906 Kolut PROSCHINGER, PRASCHINGER, PRASSINGER, BRASCHINGER, BRASSINGER Mathias, B: abt 1779 Moravia ? D: 1849 Backi Breg Mathias B: 1827 Csatalja D: 1885 Backi Breg Conrad B: 1853 Backi Breg D: 1899 Backi Breg Anton B: 1881 Backi Breg D: 1960 Michigan RISILI (Riesler, Riesel) Mathias B: Sept. 20, 1777 Kolut D: Oct 25 1840 Kolut Josef B: Sept 5 1819 Kolut D: 1873 Kolut Rosalie B: 1863 Kolut D: 1932 Detroit, Michigan SCHAUER, (Sauer), Christina B: abt 1824 Gakowa ? SCHILLING, Julianna B: 1836 Kolut, D: ? SPRENTZ, Magdalena B: abt 1732 Aus Riedelberg, Germany D: Dec 17, 1802 Csatalja WAGNER, Mathias B: ? D: April 26, 1733 Vinningen WAGNER, Friedrich Ernst B: Feb 20 1719 Vinningen, Baptized Feb. 23, 1719 Vinningen, D: June 1 1789 Csatalja WAGNER, Johann Jakob B: June 9 1749 Vinningen, Baptized June 26, 1749 Vinningen, D: Dec 22 1828 Csatalja WIRTH, Barbara B: ? D? WOLF (Volf Wolfl) Johanna B: ? D: ? Thanks everyone for taking time to look this over. If anyone sees a connection or has any questions, I would love to hear from you. Judy Ottinger St Clair Shores, Michigan
Dear Members! With this email I introduce GenTeam <http://www.genteam.at/> www.GenTeam.at to you. GenTeam is an organization of genealogists or historians who produce databases on their own or as a part of a group, and who offer these databases to all researcher without any fee. GenTeam is a non-commercial organization! The geographical centre of the databases is the present-day Austria and its neighboring lands. The use of the databases is without any fee; only a simple registration is required. The collection curently contains 1.316.729 records and will be continually updated. Overview: 1 Index of Roman Catholic marriages of Vienna between 1542 and 1850/1860 about 840.000 records As the capital of the Austrian-Hungarian Dual Monarchy, Vienna gew considerably during the 19th century; from about 215.000 inhabitants in 1800 up to more than 2.1 million in 1910. Many migrated to Vienna, especially from the crown lands, and left here their genealogical tracks or staid in Vienna. 2 Owners of houses in Lower Austria in 1817 about 198.000 records From 1817-1824 a complete survey of Lower Austria was made. All the protocols and maps still exist. They are a fantastic toll for each genealogist and historian. 3 Gazetteer of Czech, Austrian and Slovenian Republic about 62.000 records In this database you will find about 62.000 locations in Austria and in the Czech and Slovenian republics. It contains former and present names of locations, current and former parish affiliation, year that existing records begin, archival districts, and political districts or crownland. 4 Death Cards of soldiers from both World Wars about 12.700 records The death cards have been submitted by Mireille Trauner and contains genealogical information as well as pictures of the soldiers. 5 Index of Vital Statistics (church records) and seignorial records About 201.000 records This database contains records of different parishes/dominions of Lower Austria, Moravia and Slovak Republic. This database will be updated continually. You get a table of all parishes and dominions in the help-botton after a registration. If you have indices of church records of present-day Austria or neighboring lands, GenTeam would be glad if you will offer these records to GenTeam. If you have any questions, please, dont hesitate to contact me at kontakt@GenTeam.at. Please, send this information to any other mailing-list or archives. Thank you! With kind regards, Ing. Felix Gundacker genealogist Pantzergasse 30/8 A-1190 WIEN Tel = 0043 676 40 11 059 email: kontakt@GenTeam.at www.genteam.at <http://www.genteam.at/> www.ihff.at <http://www.ihff.at/> www.felixgundacker.at <http://www.felixgundacker.at/>
Hi Boglarka, According to what I discovered, the Tevel records for 1742 on are legible. People in the one of the Teufel lines I am researching have been able to decipher family birth and death dates from those records. Unfortunately, the Teufel I am seeking was born about 1741, so I would love to know where these records can be found. Would you happen to know if there is a Roman Catholic Episcopal diocesan library in Szekszard? I have been advised by Henry Fischer and Rosina Schmidt that old records were often kept in such places for protection. Thanks for your input. Sincerely, Cathy Teufel O'Neill
Hi Robert: When I saw Robtbach in the e-mail below, I thought the spelling was not far off from Rothbach and googled that. The search turned a map for Rothbach in Romania near Kronstadt, Transylvania ( present day Brasov, Romania). This is the text that was under the map: Name shown on the map: Veresmart v Rothbach Administrative unit: Brasso kerulet Kronstädter Distrikt Romanian Name: Rotbav Districtul Brasov Hungarian Name: Szászveresmart German Name: Rotbach Country Today: Romania Here is a link to the map if you want to look at it. http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/31/Grand_Ducy_of_Transylvania_(mini).jpg/700px-Grand_Ducy_of_Transylvania_(mini).jpg&imgrefurl=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Josephinische_Landaufnahme_pg259.jpg&usg=__B1YFd5vH9-jmtnH6j4WIPqzybBo=&h=527&w=700&sz=132&hl=en&start=243&um=1&tbnid=OWI1C0hUh9vC5M:&tbnh=105&tbnw=140&prev=/images%3Fq%3DRothbach%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1W1ADFA_en%26sa%3DN%26start%3D234%26um%3D1 It is perhaps only a coincidence and no connection at all to Robtbach. Kathy Plourde ----- Original Message ----- From: <banat-request@rootsweb.com> To: <banat@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:01 AM Subject: BANAT Digest, Vol 5, Issue 19 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Leks in Gary, Indiana (tmark2b) > 2. Leks in Gary (tmark2b) > 3. Re: John Leks (Jane Moore) > 4. Re: John Leks (Robert Evensen) > 5. Query: Kowatchi fam or church bk or filial St. Andreas or > Jahrmarkt bks (Linda McKenna) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 08:30:45 -0500 > From: "tmark2b" <tmark2b@nethere.com> > Subject: [BANAT-L] Leks in Gary, Indiana > To: <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <AC4D2A61ACAB4338B134337F3E572B61@noname> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Robert: > I haven't closely followed most recent details of your Leks family search > until I noticed Gary, Indiana. My family has lived in the area since > 1917, my grandmother was from the Nagy Kikinda/KisOrosz region, and > grandfather from Bokod, Komarom county. > > I'm currently viewing most of the Gary church films finding all my > relatives. If you have names (with possible variations) and time frames, > I'll be glad to watch for them. Your quick response would be appreciated, > a couple films are due for return soon. The films include records from a > couple church in East Chicago. > > Regards, > Mark in Tampa, Florida > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 08:50:43 -0500 > From: "tmark2b" <tmark2b@nethere.com> > Subject: [BANAT-L] Leks in Gary > To: <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <271D43AEEB28421A860C254D21106610@noname> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Robert: Definitely a rapid response. I'm dashing out the door now to my > local FHC library. I'll look for these records which would include the > same time frame as my family. I'm noticing most Hungarians attended St. > Emeric, Holy Trinity, St. Hedwig and Holy Rosary churches. > > My grandparents lived in the Glen Park neighborhood of Gary which had a > large concentration of Hungarians, Poles and Russians. > > I'll give you a status of my findings later today or tomorrow. > > Regards, > Mark in Tampa > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:05:54 -0700 > From: Jane Moore <jmoore@cmcpc.net> > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] John Leks > To: "Robert Evensen" <revensen@comcast.net>, "Banat List" > <banat@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20100113100035.035aec40@cmcpc.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed > > Robert, > > Do you have the marriage information for John & > Elisabeth (29 May 1913 in Lake County, Indiana)? > > If not, do a search for John Lekz on > ancestry.com, and it will come up. I don't know > whether the original record would have a birth place for John. > > Jane Moore > > At 05:37 PM 1/12/2010, Robert Evensen wrote: >>Hi Cathy, >> >>Thanks for all the sites and help. The name Robtbach is very clear on the >>registration record. In fact it is printed in block letters, so there is >>no >>mistaking a European or Gothic script. I went to Dave's site on Banaters >>to >>the US and found no one with the name Leks. Now this is very strange. >>Even >>in Ancestry.com it is a rather unusual name as spelled. There are several >>families with the name from Poland, but his record says Romania and he is >>married to a woman from Gro?jetscha. I can only assume the spelling is >>some >>variant of the original German. >> >>To make the problem more interesting. John Leks's wife is Elisabetha Ott, >>daughter of Michael Ott and Barbara Lambing of Gro?jetscha. In the FB >>Gro?jetscha, Hans Wikete does not know what happened to Elisabetha, so >>there >>is only a birth date. I found her emigration record from Hamburg on 14 >>Sep >>1906. I don't believe she is listed yet on Dave's list. As soon as I >>find >>her American landing, I will report it to him. So I am feeling >>comfortable >>that John Leks is from Romania. What village is still the question! >> >>Robert >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Cathy Deschu" <cjdeschu@yahoo.com> >>To: "Banat List" <banat@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 6:31 PM >>Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] John Leks >> >> >>I thought I'd mention 3 sites which are helpful finding village names. >>Sadly >>in Robert's case, I found no Robtbach. There is a family name similar .. >>Rohrbach. Perhaps it is something like that. Transcribing from old >>handwriting can be very tough. While searching Ellis Island for my >>grandparents, there was no one on the list with the village I knew they >>came >>from in the sites initial search results. But when I actually looked at >>the >>real transcript, I could see the Ellis Island transcriber had mistaken the >>2 >>first letters for something totally different. Another thing I learned is >>if >>something "sounds" the same it often is the same, despite their spelling >>variation. I've found at least 10 different speilings for Deschu. So give >>yourself a little flexibility when searching. >> >>Here are the links for the 3 sites that might help others .. and even >>Robert. >> >> >>There is an online resource for finding villages. It identifies itself as >>being for Jewish researchers, but most villages were not only Jewish. It >>will find villages with similar spellings or sound throughout eastern >>Europe. I found my grandmothers Ukrainian village on it, when no other >>resource had. It's worth a try, so I thought I'd mention it. >> >>http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/Search.asp >> >>This is also a handy village name resource. >> >>http://www.feefhs.org/links/banat/townban.html >> >>One other resource is >> >>http://www.dvhh.org/banat/village/index.htm >> >> >>Cathy Deschu in dark, windy 27? Pennsylvania (we're having a heat wave) >> >>--- On Tue, 1/12/10, Robert Evensen <revensen@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>From: Robert Evensen <revensen@comcast.net> >>Subject: [BANAT-L] John Leks >>To: "'Banat List'" <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> >>Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 5:02 PM >> >>In a 1942 US Draft registration, John Leks lists his birth place as >>Robtbach, Romania. Any guess as to where that is? His wife is born in >>Gro?jetscha. >> >>Robert Evensen >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >>email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the >>word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >>subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 12:32:35 -0500 > From: "Robert Evensen" <revensen@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] John Leks > To: "Banat List" <banat@rootsweb.com>, "Jane Moore" <jmoore@cmcpc.net> > Message-ID: <412FEED9E5D94D58BA49CC0907F3DE7E@RobertPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=response > > Thanks Jane. Yes, I did have this information. My experience is early > marriage records are rather brief with not much information. But you > never > know. I'll check it out. > > Robert > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane Moore" <jmoore@cmcpc.net> > To: "Robert Evensen" <revensen@comcast.net>; "Banat List" > <banat@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:05 PM > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] John Leks > > > Robert, > > Do you have the marriage information for John & > Elisabeth (29 May 1913 in Lake County, Indiana)? > > If not, do a search for John Lekz on > ancestry.com, and it will come up. I don't know > whether the original record would have a birth place for John. > > Jane Moore > > At 05:37 PM 1/12/2010, Robert Evensen wrote: >>Hi Cathy, >> >>Thanks for all the sites and help. The name Robtbach is very clear on the >>registration record. In fact it is printed in block letters, so there is >>no >>mistaking a European or Gothic script. I went to Dave's site on Banaters >>to >>the US and found no one with the name Leks. Now this is very strange. >>Even >>in Ancestry.com it is a rather unusual name as spelled. There are several >>families with the name from Poland, but his record says Romania and he is >>married to a woman from Gro?jetscha. I can only assume the spelling is >>some >>variant of the original German. >> >>To make the problem more interesting. John Leks's wife is Elisabetha Ott, >>daughter of Michael Ott and Barbara Lambing of Gro?jetscha. In the FB >>Gro?jetscha, Hans Wikete does not know what happened to Elisabetha, so >>there >>is only a birth date. I found her emigration record from Hamburg on 14 >>Sep >>1906. I don't believe she is listed yet on Dave's list. As soon as I >>find >>her American landing, I will report it to him. So I am feeling >>comfortable >>that John Leks is from Romania. What village is still the question! >> >>Robert >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Cathy Deschu" <cjdeschu@yahoo.com> >>To: "Banat List" <banat@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 6:31 PM >>Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] John Leks >> >> >>I thought I'd mention 3 sites which are helpful finding village names. >>Sadly >>in Robert's case, I found no Robtbach. There is a family name similar .. >>Rohrbach. Perhaps it is something like that. Transcribing from old >>handwriting can be very tough. While searching Ellis Island for my >>grandparents, there was no one on the list with the village I knew they >>came >>from in the sites initial search results. But when I actually looked at >>the >>real transcript, I could see the Ellis Island transcriber had mistaken the >>2 >>first letters for something totally different. Another thing I learned is >>if >>something "sounds" the same it often is the same, despite their spelling >>variation. I've found at least 10 different speilings for Deschu. So give >>yourself a little flexibility when searching. >> >>Here are the links for the 3 sites that might help others .. and even >>Robert. >> >> >>There is an online resource for finding villages. It identifies itself as >>being for Jewish researchers, but most villages were not only Jewish. It >>will find villages with similar spellings or sound throughout eastern >>Europe. I found my grandmothers Ukrainian village on it, when no other >>resource had. It's worth a try, so I thought I'd mention it. >> >>http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/Search.asp >> >>This is also a handy village name resource. >> >>http://www.feefhs.org/links/banat/townban.html >> >>One other resource is >> >>http://www.dvhh.org/banat/village/index.htm >> >> >>Cathy Deschu in dark, windy 27? Pennsylvania (we're having a heat wave) >> >>--- On Tue, 1/12/10, Robert Evensen <revensen@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>From: Robert Evensen <revensen@comcast.net> >>Subject: [BANAT-L] John Leks >>To: "'Banat List'" <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> >>Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 5:02 PM >> >>In a 1942 US Draft registration, John Leks lists his birth place as >>Robtbach, Romania. Any guess as to where that is? His wife is born in >>Gro?jetscha. >> >>Robert Evensen >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:08:01 -0500 > From: "Linda McKenna" <famline@embarqmail.com> > Subject: [BANAT-L] Query: Kowatchi fam or church bk or filial St. > Andreas or Jahrmarkt bks > To: <banat@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BFF1C160BAF440B39BB5A82057897374@DELL4700> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dear Fellow DS Researchers, > > Here is what I know and underlined is what I am searching. Any help > greatly appreciated. > > My great grandfather Friedrich BAUTZ/PAUTZ/PAUCZ was born 16 April 1855 in > Kowatschi to > Andreas PENZER/PAUTZ/PANCZ (b 9 Nov 1828 in Saderlach) and Maria MATHIS > (b 1829 place unk) . > He had two older sisters Rosalia b 22 Aug 1850 and Margaret born 15 Feb. > 1852 both in Kowatschi. > Other children Unknown > His parents were married in St. Andreas on 9 Feb 1847. > > Parents of Andreas are Johann PAUTZ and Anna HAUSENSTEIN. birthdates and > places unknown. > Their family moved to Kowatschi from Saderlach in 1844 > > I do not know where his mother Maria MATHIS was born,? nor anything about > her parents: > Wilhelm MATHIS and Eva ANGELE who moved their family from Saderlach to > Kowatschi in 1844. > Looking for personal info on Wilhelm or Eva > > Friedrich BAUTZ/PAUTZ/PAUCZ married Emilia KIRSCHNER (or variant sp). > marriage date and place unknown. > Emilia was born 1864; place unknown. > > Friedrich had a daughter previous to this marriage by the name of > Barbara...details unknown. > > Emilia may have had a son previous to this marriage by the name of Stefan > BREDRECHECZ (or variant spelling), details unknown. > > together Friedrich and Emilia BAUTZ had these known children all born in > Kowatschi: > > Maria 1884 > Peter 1887 > Johan 1889 > Josefa 1893 > Konrad 1896 d 1916 W.W.I but do not know where > Louisa or Luise b, unk Married Stefan Horvath/Horwath, date and place > unk; son Stefan, details unk. > possibly a Friedrich...details unk. > > > Again, thank you for any help. > Linda Bautz McKenna > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BANAT list administrator, send an email to > BANAT-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BANAT mailing list, send an email to > BANAT@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of BANAT Digest, Vol 5, Issue 19 > ************************************
This is what I learned about the Tevel records: The first German settles of Tolna county are the ones in Tevel, arriving in 1712. Even in 1715 they are the only Germans mentioned in the tax records. The first Tevel records between 1712-1715 can be found int eh SZEKSZARD registries. The first priest of Tevel was Johann Heinrich Mack who arrived in 1713 with a group of settlers. He served in Tevel until 1718, then he moved to NADASCH. His name as the baptizing pries appears in the SZEKSZARD birth registries from Feb 2, 1714 until 1715. In 1715 there is a crossed out data in the Szekszard book, and no more Tevel records. Probably the first church in Tevel was built, the Tevel recordkeeping was moved to Tevel. It is know that in the first few years the priest changed very frequently, and probably the record were not properly kept. As it was mentioned, the books are availbe only from 1742 on, the years between 1715 and 1742 are missing. Best regards, Boglárka
TEVEL is in TOLNA, one of the three provinces of the SWABIAN TURKEY. Just where to find the records for Tolna, please see: http://www.hrastovac.net/information/Tolna-Research.htm Rosina Vancouver Island > This is what I learned about the Tevel records: > > The first German settles of Tolna county are the ones in Tevel, arriving > in 1712. Even in 1715 they are the only Germans mentioned in the tax > records. > The first Tevel records between 1712-1715 can be found int eh SZEKSZARD > registries. > The first priest of Tevel was Johann Heinrich Mack who arrived in 1713 > with a group of settlers. He served in Tevel until 1718, then he moved to > NADASCH. His name as the baptizing pries appears in the SZEKSZARD birth > registries from Feb 2, 1714 until 1715. In 1715 there is a crossed out > data in the Szekszard book, and no more Tevel records. Probably the first > church in Tevel was built, the Tevel recordkeeping was moved to Tevel. > It is know that in the first few years the priest changed very frequently, > and probably the record were not properly kept. As it was mentioned, the > books are availbe only from 1742 on, the years between 1715 and 1742 are > missing. > > Best regards, > > Boglárka >
Possibly the Lek/Lech family was from Rotbach (i.e they were Transylvania Saxons): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burzenland Beth Long Budapest -