I have been using Legacy for several years and highly recommend it. The standard edition is free so you can "try before you buy" and the Deluxe edition is only $29.95 US. http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/ They also have a user mailing list which is very active and helpful to those new to the Legacy software. http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/UsersGroups.asp ----- Original Message ----- > From: <hiriseguy@email.com> > To: <BANAT@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 7:57 AM > Subject: [BANAT-L] Software > > >> >> >> >> I have been using Family Origins 10 software for my Family Tree. This is >> no longer supported and I am planning to move to a more modern program. >> My question is...What is a good program to move to? What is the most >> popular, what are you using? Any suggestions would be appreciated. >> >> Dick Barak >> St Francis, MN >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >

I use Family Tree Maker,  You can include photos, maps, etc.  It will create an all-in-one  chart containing EVERY person you enter data for ... cousins, aunts and uncles (not just forward or backward from you or an hourglass) ... everyone. --- On Tue, 2/23/10, hiriseguy@email.com <hiriseguy@email.com> wrote: From: hiriseguy@email.com <hiriseguy@email.com> Subject: [BANAT-L] Software To: BANAT@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 7:57 AM I have been using Family Origins 10 software for my Family Tree. This is no longer supported and I am planning to move to a more modern program. My question is...What is a good program to move to? What is the most popular, what are you using? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Dick Barak St Francis, MN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have been using Family Origins 10 software for my Family Tree. This is no longer supported and I am planning to move to a more modern program. My question is...What is a good program to move to? What is the most popular, what are you using? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Dick Barak St Francis, MN

I use "The Master Genealogist" http://www.whollygenes.com/ and feel it is the most versatile program on the market. Most popular is probably PAF as it is available for free download. FamilyTreemaker is widely available at Costco so alot of people use it. I like TMG because it has the best ability to create sources for every aspect of the details we record. It also has wonderful programs as accessories to help make webpages (Second Site). Denise A member of the Association of Professional Genealogists The web page I made for my parents is at: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~merritt/ My genealogy related pages are at: http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~merritt/ and http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~merritt/ The latter created using John Cardinal's Second Site User of The Master Genealogist (TMG) http://www.whollygenes.com/ ----- Original Message ----- My question is...What is a good program to move to? What is the most popular, what are you using? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I use Family Tree Maker. --- On Tue, 2/23/10, hiriseguy@email.com <hiriseguy@email.com> wrote: From: hiriseguy@email.com <hiriseguy@email.com> Subject: [BANAT-L] Software To: BANAT@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 6:57 AM I have been using Family Origins 10 software for my Family Tree. This is no longer supported and I am planning to move to a more modern program. My question is...What is a good program to move to? What is the most popular, what are you using? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Dick Barak St Francis, MN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My Father AND Mother's family came from 2 Villages; Zerne and Hatzfeld in the Banat. I am pure bred donuswaban. Mt GGrandmother left her genealogy which traced her family back to Germany. The others, Dad's family, Great Grandfather's ancestors etc were never revealed to me in years of searching. Then Dave Dwyer announced a researcher was going to publish a book on the Zerne village. I sent a donation to help with the research. Today the books arrived. The Hornungs (Helga & Anton) searched thru records in Latin, German, Serb and Hungarian languages. They looked in church and civil records. OMG the nailed all of my family. 3 children who died under the ages of 3 that I never heard of, god-parents of all the families children etc. When I found my GFathers there it then led me to their fathers and mothers. Those also led me back to their parents, etc. i can't tell you how excited I am to add all this to my personal family tree. I have a 6 year old grandson, last of the line. To have all this to pass on to him is such a joy. I am (as of yesterday) 81 years old. I am glad to pull this all together for him. Dick Barak St Francis, MN -----Original Message----- From: Michael Kausch <mpkausch@sbcglobal.net> To: hiriseguy@email.com Cc: Mike & Pat Kausch <mpkausch@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Mon, Feb 22, 2010 3:24 pm Subject: RE: [BANAT-L] D Zerne Familiebuch Dick - This is really exciting!!!!!!!!! What part of the Banat was your family from? I have been searching for years and always hope for a breakthrough. Would appreciate your reply. Michael Kausch -----Original Message----- From: banat-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:banat-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of hiriseguy@email.com Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 2:46 PM To: BANAT@rootsweb.com; ddreyer@pacbell.net Subject: [BANAT-L] D Zerne Familiebuch OMG! It came today. All my brick walls tumbled. I can go back 4 and 5 generations, farther than I ever went. Thanks to the Hornungs for all the great work. Dave, I am not sure how to pay for them. Can U send me an E-Mail for the best way to do that? Dick Barak St Francis, MN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

OMG! It came today. All my brick walls tumbled. I can go back 4 and 5 generations, farther than I ever went. Thanks to the Hornungs for all the great work. Dave, I am not sure how to pay for them. Can U send me an E-Mail for the best way to do that? Dick Barak St Francis, MN

Can anyone send me an English translation of the text part of the Hatzfeld family book? That would be the part before they start listing all the names. Mein Deutsch nicht ist kein "darn" gut; see? Thanks, Charlie Tiller St. Paul, MN _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/

Will those of us unable to attend be able to read Dave's presentation? --- On Sat, 2/20/10, Rosina T Schmidt <rosinats@shaw.ca> wrote: From: Rosina T Schmidt <rosinats@shaw.ca> Subject: [BANAT-L] Mt. Angel, Sept. 16-19th To: Banat@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, February 20, 2010, 12:53 AM Hello Mt. Angel Travelers, Our Dave Dreyer is the most inspiring Donauschwabe on this worthy list, so it will be a pleasure to listen to his presentation come September! Dave is still working on the subject and will let us know in due course. Thank you, Dave, we are delighted you will be able to attend. See you all in Mt. Angel, Rosina www.hrastovac.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren; "Pfeiffer",evangelisch Augsburger Konfession in Hidas und Kismanyok und Umgebung. Johann Pfeiffer geb. um 1767 °° Susanne Katharina Roth geb.22.08.1777 Peter Pfeiffer geb. um 1786 °° Anna Maria Gunkel geb. 18.07.1790 Johann Pfeiffer geb. 12.04.1814°° Margarethe Ehret geb.17.02.1819 Hidas 82 Johann Pfeiffer geb. 26.08.1842 °° Elisabeth Müller geb.06.09.1847 Hidas 9 Johann Pfeiffer geb. 03.01.1869 °° Katalin Fein geb.19.12.1870 Hidas 9 Johann Pfeiffer geb.19.02.1894 °° Anna Maria Menges Deutschland Hidas 9 Können sie mir weiterhelfen,wann kamen diese Pfeiffer als Siedler nach Ungarn. Ich habe Kirchenbücher Hidas der Mormonen durchgesehen. Ich habe das OFB Kismanyok durchgesehen. Aber ich konnte nicht feststellen wann und woher aus Deutschland Sie kamen. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Dieter Märte/Pfeiffer -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01

Hello Mt. Angel Travelers, Our Dave Dreyer is the most inspiring Donauschwabe on this worthy list, so it will be a pleasure to listen to his presentation come September! Dave is still working on the subject and will let us know in due course. Thank you, Dave, we are delighted you will be able to attend. See you all in Mt. Angel, Rosina www.hrastovac.net

Thanks to Harold and Liane for sending me the information. Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "L.Falzboden" <l.falzboden@t-online.de> To: "'Robert Evensen'" <revensen@comcast.net> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:38 PM Subject: AW: [BANAT-L] Zichydorf look-up Hallo Robert, unter folgendem Link findest Du die Daten zu Anna Maria Fischer und ihren Eltern http://www.online-ofb.de/famreport.php?ofb=zichydorf&ID=618&nachname=FISCHER&mod us=&lang=de http://www.online-ofb.de/famlist.php?ofb=zichydorf&b=F&lang=de&modus= Mit freundlichen Grüßen Liane (Falzboden) -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: banat-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:banat-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von Robert Evensen Gesendet: Freitag, 19. Februar 2010 22:20 An: Banat Betreff: [BANAT-L] Zichydorf look-up Can someone who has access to the FB Zichydorf tell me if Anna Maria Fischer, born abt 1751 in Boglar and dies 28 Oct 1826 in Zichydorf is listed.? I know little about her, except her parents were Simon Fischer and Eva Kollar. Thanks, Robert Evensen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can someone who has access to the FB Zichydorf tell me if Anna Maria Fischer, born abt 1751 in Boglar and dies 28 Oct 1826 in Zichydorf is listed.? I know little about her, except her parents were Simon Fischer and Eva Kollar. Thanks, Robert Evensen

Attached is a flyer about a presentation of Romanian spring traditions and folk dance demonstrations on Saturday March 13 at 4 pm at the Coffman Memorial Union, University of Minnesota campus, Minneapolis, MN. Contact me if you would like more information or see www.hora-mn.org for more details about Historical Organization of Romanian Americans in Minnesota. Determined by the excellent turnout at our first presentation, HORA is happy to invite you to the 2010 first quarterly lecture. It will be a celebration of spring, following Romanian traditions through their journey to Minnesota. The first presentation showcases ancient and pagan customs such as Martisor, Babele, and Dragobete, together with Romanian Easter culinary and art traditions, exemplified with painted eggs. Originally a religious custom, Mucenici has become a baker's delight and will be sampled at the event. The second presentation highlights the interconnections between Romanian dance, music, and rhythms and the Balkan cultures that have influenced them. The dances of four regions - Moldova, Dobrogea, Banat and Ardeal are explored. Everyone is welcome! Admission is free and we invite donations, which will be used towards the development of our organization. The presentations will take place Sat., March 13 from 4 to 6 pm, followed by discussions. Light refreshments served. Romanian gift items, including religious and traditional Easter cards, will be offered for donations

>2) In Ewald Spang's Familienbuch for Bogarosch, under k325, he mentions > "Roth Schack". I can translate 'Roth' but not 'Schack' nor 'Roth Schack'. > A translation would be appreciated! On page 13 of the familybook it tells that the names in this sort of brackets is a nickname. Regards Anni   ___________________________________________________________ NEU: Mit WEB.DE DSL über 1000,- ¿ sparen! http://produkte.web.de/go/02/

My books arrived a few days ago. Eileen in Minnesota -----Original Message----- From: banat-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:banat-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave Dreyer Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 11:42 AM To: Banat List; Steve Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] FB Deutsch Zerne Steve and Denise; Give it another week to 10 days. If you haven't received the books by that time I will contact Philipp Lung about the problem. It happens like this almost every time a set of books are published. Since they are coming surface mail I suspect that some of the books are put in different containers and some of the containers get delayed or some reason or another. This year we might be able to blame it on the big storm in the East. Anyway, get back to me in 8-10 days if the books don't show up. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <jsremsing@att.net> To: "Dave Dreyer" <ddreyer@pacbell.net>; "Banat List" <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 3:14 AM Subject: FB Deutsch Zerne > Dave, are the copies of this book being sent out at various times ? I > have not yet received mine, as was just curious as to where it all stood. > Thanks ! > > Steve Remsing > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Dreyer" <ddreyer@pacbell.net> > To: "Banat List" <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 6:54 PM > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Hungarian ancestors and Magyarcjernya & > Topolyaresources? > > > Charlie; > Thanks for your comments on the D Zerne work. I will pass them along to > Philipp Lung and the Hornungs. Many times when one finishes a family book > the author get dumped on when readers find typos or especially errors of > fact so your views are a nice change. I will comment that others have > responded privately along the same lines. > > As you are likely aware, Kovacs is a Hungarian surname and Toba, Topolya > and > Magyar Zerne are mainly Hungarian villages. You will find only limited > resources through the AKdFF for these villages and you might consider > contacting Marta ISTVAN who does research for a reasonable fee in this > area. > Other list members have employed Marta and I think all who did so are > happy > with her work. > Dave Dreyer > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charlie Tiller" <charlietiller@hotmail.com> > To: <banat@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:23 PM > Subject: [BANAT-L] Hungarian ancestors and Magyarcjernya & Topolya > resources? > > > > Hi all, > > > > I've made huge breakthroughs during the past week with the new > Deutsch-Zerne > FB (along with references to the old Hatzfeld FB), and I am very glad for > it. It appears the next great leap will be tracing my Donauschwaben > families back to Germany. I'm not ready yet for that scary undertaking > and > will savor what I have from the Banat for awhile. Thank you, Hornungs and > Dave Dreyer! > > > > However, seeing three to five generations of Donauschwaben ancestors added > in the blink of an eye makes my lone Hungarian ancestor stand out all the > more. So I'm wondering if anyone can help me find direction on > researching > Hungarian ancestors in the Banat. In particular, my ancestor > Wenzel/Vencel > Kovacs was reportedly born in Topolya about 1852 and apparently spent much > of his adult life on the estates (majors/hofs) near Toba and Magyarcjernya > (Ungarische-Zerne). > > > > Therefore, I'd like to learn what resources are available for Topolya and > Magyarcjernya (and Hungarian towns more generally), in hopes that I can > begin the hunt for Wenzel's ancestors. If you think your response will be > useful for many, please post to the Banat list. However, please post > directly to me if you don't think the entire community needs to hear it: > charlietiller@hotmail.com . > > > > Thank you so much, > > Charlie Tiller > > St. Paul, MN > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've also been wondering, as I haven't received my copy yet either. I'm looking forward to it very mch, and sure it will be worth the wait!! ~ Denise Acker On 2/17/2010 6:14 AM, Steve wrote: > Dave, are the copies of this book being sent out at various times ? I have > not yet received mine, as was just curious as to where it all stood. Thanks > ! > > Steve Remsing > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Dreyer"<ddreyer@pacbell.net> > To: "Banat List"<BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 6:54 PM > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Hungarian ancestors and Magyarcjernya& > Topolyaresources? > > > Charlie; > Thanks for your comments on the D Zerne work. I will pass them along to > Philipp Lung and the Hornungs. Many times when one finishes a family book > the author get dumped on when readers find typos or especially errors of > fact so your views are a nice change. I will comment that others have > responded privately along the same lines. > > As you are likely aware, Kovacs is a Hungarian surname and Toba, Topolya and > Magyar Zerne are mainly Hungarian villages. You will find only limited > resources through the AKdFF for these villages and you might consider > contacting Marta ISTVAN who does research for a reasonable fee in this area. > Other list members have employed Marta and I think all who did so are happy > with her work. > Dave Dreyer > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charlie Tiller"<charlietiller@hotmail.com> > To:<banat@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:23 PM > Subject: [BANAT-L] Hungarian ancestors and Magyarcjernya& Topolya > resources? > > > > Hi all, > > > > I've made huge breakthroughs during the past week with the new Deutsch-Zerne > FB (along with references to the old Hatzfeld FB), and I am very glad for > it. It appears the next great leap will be tracing my Donauschwaben > families back to Germany. I'm not ready yet for that scary undertaking and > will savor what I have from the Banat for awhile. Thank you, Hornungs and > Dave Dreyer! > > > > However, seeing three to five generations of Donauschwaben ancestors added > in the blink of an eye makes my lone Hungarian ancestor stand out all the > more. So I'm wondering if anyone can help me find direction on researching > Hungarian ancestors in the Banat. In particular, my ancestor Wenzel/Vencel > Kovacs was reportedly born in Topolya about 1852 and apparently spent much > of his adult life on the estates (majors/hofs) near Toba and Magyarcjernya > (Ungarische-Zerne). > > > > Therefore, I'd like to learn what resources are available for Topolya and > Magyarcjernya (and Hungarian towns more generally), in hopes that I can > begin the hunt for Wenzel's ancestors. If you think your response will be > useful for many, please post to the Banat list. However, please post > directly to me if you don't think the entire community needs to hear it: > charlietiller@hotmail.com . > > > > Thank you so much, > > Charlie Tiller > > St. Paul, MN > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Steve and Denise; Give it another week to 10 days. If you haven't received the books by that time I will contact Philipp Lung about the problem. It happens like this almost every time a set of books are published. Since they are coming surface mail I suspect that some of the books are put in different containers and some of the containers get delayed or some reason or another. This year we might be able to blame it on the big storm in the East. Anyway, get back to me in 8-10 days if the books don't show up. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <jsremsing@att.net> To: "Dave Dreyer" <ddreyer@pacbell.net>; "Banat List" <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 3:14 AM Subject: FB Deutsch Zerne > Dave, are the copies of this book being sent out at various times ? I > have not yet received mine, as was just curious as to where it all stood. > Thanks ! > > Steve Remsing > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Dreyer" <ddreyer@pacbell.net> > To: "Banat List" <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 6:54 PM > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Hungarian ancestors and Magyarcjernya & > Topolyaresources? > > > Charlie; > Thanks for your comments on the D Zerne work. I will pass them along to > Philipp Lung and the Hornungs. Many times when one finishes a family book > the author get dumped on when readers find typos or especially errors of > fact so your views are a nice change. I will comment that others have > responded privately along the same lines. > > As you are likely aware, Kovacs is a Hungarian surname and Toba, Topolya > and > Magyar Zerne are mainly Hungarian villages. You will find only limited > resources through the AKdFF for these villages and you might consider > contacting Marta ISTVAN who does research for a reasonable fee in this > area. > Other list members have employed Marta and I think all who did so are > happy > with her work. > Dave Dreyer > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charlie Tiller" <charlietiller@hotmail.com> > To: <banat@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:23 PM > Subject: [BANAT-L] Hungarian ancestors and Magyarcjernya & Topolya > resources? > > > > Hi all, > > > > I've made huge breakthroughs during the past week with the new > Deutsch-Zerne > FB (along with references to the old Hatzfeld FB), and I am very glad for > it. It appears the next great leap will be tracing my Donauschwaben > families back to Germany. I'm not ready yet for that scary undertaking > and > will savor what I have from the Banat for awhile. Thank you, Hornungs and > Dave Dreyer! > > > > However, seeing three to five generations of Donauschwaben ancestors added > in the blink of an eye makes my lone Hungarian ancestor stand out all the > more. So I'm wondering if anyone can help me find direction on > researching > Hungarian ancestors in the Banat. In particular, my ancestor > Wenzel/Vencel > Kovacs was reportedly born in Topolya about 1852 and apparently spent much > of his adult life on the estates (majors/hofs) near Toba and Magyarcjernya > (Ungarische-Zerne). > > > > Therefore, I'd like to learn what resources are available for Topolya and > Magyarcjernya (and Hungarian towns more generally), in hopes that I can > begin the hunt for Wenzel's ancestors. If you think your response will be > useful for many, please post to the Banat list. However, please post > directly to me if you don't think the entire community needs to hear it: > charlietiller@hotmail.com . > > > > Thank you so much, > > Charlie Tiller > > St. Paul, MN > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Dave, are the copies of this book being sent out at various times ? I have not yet received mine, as was just curious as to where it all stood. Thanks ! Steve Remsing ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Dreyer" <ddreyer@pacbell.net> To: "Banat List" <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Hungarian ancestors and Magyarcjernya & Topolyaresources? Charlie; Thanks for your comments on the D Zerne work. I will pass them along to Philipp Lung and the Hornungs. Many times when one finishes a family book the author get dumped on when readers find typos or especially errors of fact so your views are a nice change. I will comment that others have responded privately along the same lines. As you are likely aware, Kovacs is a Hungarian surname and Toba, Topolya and Magyar Zerne are mainly Hungarian villages. You will find only limited resources through the AKdFF for these villages and you might consider contacting Marta ISTVAN who does research for a reasonable fee in this area. Other list members have employed Marta and I think all who did so are happy with her work. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie Tiller" <charlietiller@hotmail.com> To: <banat@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:23 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] Hungarian ancestors and Magyarcjernya & Topolya resources? Hi all, I've made huge breakthroughs during the past week with the new Deutsch-Zerne FB (along with references to the old Hatzfeld FB), and I am very glad for it. It appears the next great leap will be tracing my Donauschwaben families back to Germany. I'm not ready yet for that scary undertaking and will savor what I have from the Banat for awhile. Thank you, Hornungs and Dave Dreyer! However, seeing three to five generations of Donauschwaben ancestors added in the blink of an eye makes my lone Hungarian ancestor stand out all the more. So I'm wondering if anyone can help me find direction on researching Hungarian ancestors in the Banat. In particular, my ancestor Wenzel/Vencel Kovacs was reportedly born in Topolya about 1852 and apparently spent much of his adult life on the estates (majors/hofs) near Toba and Magyarcjernya (Ungarische-Zerne). Therefore, I'd like to learn what resources are available for Topolya and Magyarcjernya (and Hungarian towns more generally), in hopes that I can begin the hunt for Wenzel's ancestors. If you think your response will be useful for many, please post to the Banat list. However, please post directly to me if you don't think the entire community needs to hear it: charlietiller@hotmail.com . Thank you so much, Charlie Tiller St. Paul, MN _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

ROTH was also a common surname in the Banat. Perhaps Roth Schack means Jakob Roth. Fran Matkovich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nikolaus Tullius" <ntullius@sympatico.ca> To: <Banat@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Herrschaftspass & Roth Schack? > Hi Ed, > > "Herrschaftspass" sounds like a permit from one of the feudal overlords > that > owned many Banat villages before roughly 1848. Such passes were sometimes > required for things like moving into a village, building a house, opening > a > workshop, sending an animal to the communal pasture, etc. > > "Roth Schack" is most likely a nickname. "Roth" could be an old spelling > of > "rot", which means "red". "Schack" could come from the French designation > for Jakob: Jaques (pronounced like the German word "Schack"). Maybe Jakob > or > his father or grandfather got that nickname because he had red hair? > > Of course we are guessing here; maybe somebody has better ideas?? > > Cheers, > Nick > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: banat-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:banat-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Edward J. Lowitz > Sent: 15-Feb-10 15:06 > To: Banat@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BANAT-L] Herrschaftspass & Roth Schack? > > I was sieving my books for any information which I might have missed and > found two entries which I can't translate/understand: > > 1) In Hans Wikete's Ortsippenbuch for Grossjetscha, under o38, he mentions > "Herrschaftspass". I can't seem to find any references to it on the web > and > a quick check on the Banat archives did not uncover any mention of it > either. Would someone provide some insight please? > > 2) In Ewald Spang's Familienbuch for Bogarosch, under k325, he mentions > "Roth Schack". I can translate 'Roth' but not 'Schack' nor 'Roth Schack'. > A translation would be appreciated! > > Thanks guys! > > Ed. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message