HI VALERIE. THANK YOU FOR THE INFO. MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER'S NAME WAS THERESA ECKERT / ECKHART. SHE MARRIED ADAM LAMBRECHT SR. AS FAR AS I KNOW MY GRT. GRANPARENTS CAME TO CANADA ALONG WITH THERE CHILDREN. AND SETTLED IN SASKATCHEWAN . NOT SURE WHAT YR THAT WAS. ADAM LAMBRECHT JR. WAS MY GRANDFATHER. MY DAD WAS JOHN MATHIAS LAMBRECHT. THANKS AGAIN VAL

Our daughter recently was a victim of the same scam, except it was done through her Facebook account. She didn't know until Facebook removed her page and is still waiting for a response from Facebook. Our son said it was done through use of a "bot", since all money requests were done at the exact moment (1 pm), and all people linked to her page who happened to be online at that time received a money request. Kathy Bevier In a message dated 2/26/2010 11:52:57 A.M. Central Daylight Time, steveds@heroldtech.com writes: Scam Warning!!! A couple of subscribers to the list recently received a message from a former subscriber stating how he was someplace in Europe and had been robbed and needed money to get back home. The person is no longer a Banat subscriber so the email message to the list bounced. This a scam that has been going on for a couple of years. Somehow the email address for a person is hijacked....someone gets control of the address and password, changes the password and can do an amazing amount of damage given what they find in the email and email address book that are stored on a server....NOT your local PC. These messages will generally originate from addresses such as yahoo.com, gmail.com and hotmail.com. Never respond to the message....the person is either already aware of the problem or will not be able receive your message since he/she has been cut off from their email because the password was changed. Sending a message to them only gives the hijacker a live email address. I've seen a couple of these this year and three last year. In the last case I knew the person and called him. He was already aware of the hijack and was jumping through all kinds of hoops trying to minimize the damage. A good way to reduce the possibility of one of these hijackings is to make certain you use a strong password, i.e., one which contains at least one or two upper case letters and one or two numbers. And including a special character such as ! or # will also make it stronger. Also make certain that you do not store passwords in any messages that are left on the server. You can imagine the damage a person could do knowing the passwords to your bank account. Steve ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, Looking to mooch a ride from Portland to Salem and return. Arriving Portland Thu. Sep. 16 1435. Departing Portland Sun. Sep. 19 1500. Will gladly take the shuttle if this is not convenient for anyone, but thought I would give it a try. Bye for now. -- Glenn Schwartz President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca

THANK YOU GLENN FOR YOUR HELP. DOROTHY O"SHAUNESSY IS MY AUNT. MY DAD WAS HER BROTHER. SHE HAS HELPED ME WITH WHAT SHE CAN. I WILL GET IN TOUCH WITH RAY BORSCHOWA. THANKS AGAIN FOR THE HELP. VAL

HELLO TINA. I KNOW A LITTLE ABOUT FRANZ STRINJA. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE CONTACT WITH HIM IF POSSIBLE. MY MOTHER'S MAIDEN NAME WAS STRINJA AND SHE WAS BORN IN KARLSDORF. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP. VAL

I AM RESEARCHING THE FOLLOWING NAMES. I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE ANY HELP. BIRG /BERG - KARLSDORF DENIS - ? DILL - ? ECKERT / ECKHART - ? ZICHYDORF HAVERSACK .- KARLSDORF. LAMBRECHT - ZICHYDORF SPRINGMAN - ? STRINJA - KARLSDORF THANK YOU VAL

Please note that the address below was originally posted wrong. The house number at Schneewitchen Str. is 10 (and not 11). Many thanks, Rosina New Publication-Release: Marta Istvan - Josef Lang "Gedenkstätten der Donauschwaben in der Batschka, im Banat, in Syrmien" A color image documentation with introductions in German, Serbian and English languages. Published by the Danube Swabian Archive, Munich, Series III, 2010 This book collects in word and images the Memorials, Commemorative Plaques, Chapels and Cemeteries which were erected since 1994 for the Ethnic Germans in these settlement areas. Included are the memorials for those who perished in the death camps between 1944 to 1948, for those who were executed and also for the all the dead in the last 200 years who were buried in the cemeteries. I should serve as a lasting reminder and be a comfort to the descendants of the Danube Swabians. To facilitate visitors to locate the memorials in a foreign land, GPS coordinates and satellite images have been included in the documentation. 68 Pages Price: Euro 18.90 plus postage Contact: Josef Lang Schneewittchen Str. 10 D 81739 Munich Germany e-mail: josef.lang@freenet.de

Hello Glen, Sorry about the not-updated www.dsheritage.com (our Mt. Angel-Treffen webpage) however, Steve Herold is the webmaster for it and I hope he will update it as soon as he can. Regarding the hotel, yes the Keizer Inn is booked out by now, but it might be a good idea to find out first if they have any cancellations: http://www.keizerrenaissanceinn.com/ The other hotel is Red Lion Hotel in Salem, where we stayed previously: http://redlion.rdln.com/HotelLocator/HotelOverview.aspx?metaID=42 Just as last year only the dinner is planned for Thursday, the 16th of September and there will be nothing planned for Sunday, the 19th, in order to give us a whole day to experience what Mt. Angel itself has to offer. For their schedule please see: http://www.mtangel.org/ Looking forwards to see you there. Rosina Vancouver Island > Hi Rosina, > > I would like to make my plans for Mt. Angel, but there is still nothing > new on the deheritage web site. Please confirm some scheduling items for > me. > > 1. Is there anything planned on Thursday before the dinner? > > 2. Is there anything planned on Sunday? > > 3. I think I recall a message from you that said the Keiser Inn was full > and we should book at the Salem Inn. Please confirm. > > Thanks. > > -- > Glenn Schwartz > > President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) > Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, > Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in > Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, > Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. > Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca >

Recently, for what it’s worth, I ran across an interesting – although very academic – PhD dissertation on some aspects of linguistic anthropology and multilingualism in the Banat. If I missed it before, and this is old news, sorry. If not, and if any listers have time to read it, and have any thoughts, I’d be very interested in your reactions. It is titled “Language Ideologies in the Romanian Banat” by Petterei Laihonen, a 2009 PhD dissertation at the University of Jyvaskyla., and it can be found at https://jyx.jyu.fi/dspace/bitstream/handle/123456789/20324/9789513936082.pdf;jsessionid=E5FBDA0A43474629E78790046B175153?sequence=1 In it, Laihonen says, “This is the first study of the Banat using modern sociolinguistic framework. From the perspective of language ideologies, my work has drawn attention to this neglected, but important region.” All the best, Marilyn

New Publication-Release: Marta Istvan - Josef Lang "Gedenkstätten der Donauschwaben in der Batschka, im Banat, in Syrmien" A color image documentation with introductions in German, Serbian and English languages. Published by the Danube Swabian Archive, Munich, Series III, 2010 This book collects in word and images the Memorials, Commemorative Plaques, Chapels and Cemeteries which were erected since 1994 for the Ethnic Germans in these settlement areas. Included are the memorials for those who perished in the death camps between 1944 to 1948, for those who were executed and also for the all the dead in the last 200 years who were buried in the cemeteries. I should serve as a lasting reminder and be a comfort to the descendants of the Danube Swabians. To facilitate visitors to locate the memorials in a foreign land, GPS coordinates and satellite images have been included in the documentation. 68 Pages Price: Euro 18.90 plus postage Contact: Josef Lang Schneewittchen Str. 11 D 81739 Munich Germany e-mail: josef.lang@freenet.de

Jean- Not an easy one to find. I spotted 3 close to APFEL but none of the information looks like a match. ********** I found a Catharina APFL in the index of married women. She was the wife of Jacobus VEBER (or WEBER) - entry V151: Jacobus VEBER *7 Jun 1840 (Billed house #168), son of Ferd. Veber & Ang. Grossz oo 12 Feb 1866 (house 161) Catharina APFL *12 May 1842 < Beodra [not sure which town that is], daughter of Nic. Apfl & Magd. Heckler, +8 Feb 1931 They had 10 children. Catharina might also have come from Pesszak. If I'm reading the abbreviated entry correctly, that notation was when they recorded the birth of her 10th child (also Catharina). ********** There's a listing for Phillipus APL (A127) without much information. Phillipus APL oo Margaretha (unknown last name) They had 4 children, born between 1776 and 1782 in Billed. ********** There's a listing for Petrus APPLER (A132): Petrus APPLER *1846-1848 < Lovrin +22 Oct 1872 oo 4 Jul 1870 Barb. SCHAKMANN *28 Apr 1848 (later remarried to Martin Steiner) Two children: Franciscus and Barbara. Peter's parents were Jos. Appler and Magdalena Strupp (no further information about them). (I'm the "half 1st cousin 3 times removed" of Barbara Schakmann according to Family Tree for Window's relationship calculator.) --- Eric Benshetler -----Original Message----- From: banat-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:banat-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ken Christie Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 3:29 PM To: jean bell; Banat-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Billed Jean.. I took a look in the Billed FB and did not find an entry for either Apfel or Reimann.....also looked for some variant spellings but nothing close. Ken Christie (njgcards@yahoo.com) 112 Indigo Cove Kyle, TX 78640 --- On Fri, 4/3/09, jean bell <jbell@empnet.com> wrote: > From: jean bell <jbell@empnet.com> > Subject: [BANAT-L] Billed > To: BANAT-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, April 3, 2009, 4:16 PM > Hello: Could anyone give me some information on the Apfel > family in > Billed circa 1880? My great-Aunt listed Billed as where > she was born > on the ship's manifest when she came to the US. First I have heard of > this. Anna Apfel was born in 1880 in Billed and her parents were > Miklos Apfel and Anna Apfel geb Reimann. In 1882 their second > daughter, Kathe and their 3rd daughter Rosa born in 1884 were born in > Ittvarnok. Later they moved to Temeswar. Why did these > people move > from place to place? Thanks to everyone who has been of > so much help > to me. Jean Bell >

I have an APFEL family that married into my ARON line. The first being Ignatz APFEL (b: 1879 in Biodra?). He married Margaret ARON from Molidorf. They had a few children. They came to the U.S. and settled in Detroit. I was in touch with some from this line not long ago. Any connection to your APFEL's Jean? Scott --- On Fri, 3/12/10, Eric Benshetler <Penn77@comcast.net> wrote: > From: Eric Benshetler <Penn77@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Billed: APFEL/APFL > To: Banat-L@rootsweb.com > Cc: "'jean bell'" <jbell@empnet.com> > Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 7:48 PM > Jean- > > Not an easy one to find.  I spotted 3 close to APFEL > but none of the > information looks like a match. > > ********** > I found a Catharina APFL in the index of married > women.  She was the wife of > Jacobus VEBER (or WEBER) - entry V151: > > Jacobus VEBER *7 Jun 1840 (Billed house #168), son of Ferd. > Veber & Ang. > Grossz > oo 12 Feb 1866 (house 161) > Catharina APFL *12 May 1842 < Beodra [not sure which > town that is], daughter > of Nic. Apfl & Magd. Heckler, +8 Feb 1931 > > They had 10 children. > > Catharina might also have come from Pesszak.  If I'm > reading the abbreviated > entry correctly, that notation was when they recorded the > birth of her 10th > child (also Catharina). > > ********** > There's a listing for Phillipus APL (A127) without much > information. > > Phillipus APL > oo > Margaretha (unknown last name) > > They had 4 children, born between 1776 and 1782 in Billed. > > ********** > There's a listing for Petrus APPLER (A132): > > Petrus APPLER *1846-1848 < Lovrin +22 Oct 1872 > oo 4 Jul 1870 > Barb. SCHAKMANN *28 Apr 1848 (later remarried to Martin > Steiner) > Two children: Franciscus and Barbara. > > Peter's parents were Jos. Appler and Magdalena Strupp (no > further > information about them). > > (I'm the "half 1st cousin 3 times removed" of Barbara > Schakmann according to > Family Tree for Window's relationship calculator.) > >             >     --- Eric Benshetler > > -----Original Message----- > From: banat-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:banat-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Ken Christie > Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 3:29 PM > To: jean bell; Banat-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Billed > > Jean.. > > I took a look in the Billed FB and did not find an entry > for either Apfel or > Reimann.....also looked for some variant spellings but > nothing close. > > Ken Christie (njgcards@yahoo.com) > 112 Indigo Cove > Kyle, TX 78640 > > > --- On Fri, 4/3/09, jean bell <jbell@empnet.com> > wrote: > > > From: jean bell <jbell@empnet.com> > > Subject: [BANAT-L] Billed > > To: BANAT-L@rootsweb.com > > Date: Friday, April 3, 2009, 4:16 PM > > Hello:   Could anyone give me some > information on the Apfel > > family in > > Billed circa 1880?   My great-Aunt > listed Billed as where > > she was born > > on the ship's manifest when she came to the US.  > First I have heard of > > this.  Anna Apfel was born in 1880 in Billed and > her parents were > > Miklos  Apfel and Anna Apfel geb Reimann.  > In 1882 their second > > daughter, Kathe and their 3rd daughter  Rosa born > in 1884 were born in > > Ittvarnok.   Later they moved to > Temeswar.  Why did these > > people move > > from place to place?    Thanks to everyone > who has been of > > so much help > > to me.    Jean Bell > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Harold- Glad to help! Good - the 1851 date matches the OSB. Angela's parents were Casp[er?] Preissinger and Barbara Pritz (ah, there's the Pritz connection!). There's no information on their parents. Casper Preissinger *1816-1820 [i.e. uncertain year, no location] +16 Jan 1852 in Billed at age 36 oo 31 Jan 1843 in Billed at age 23 for both Casper and Barbara Barbara Pritz *1820 [no location] Children: 1. Susanna *16 Dec 1843 Billed +25 Sep 1893 oo 25 Nov 1862 to Jac. Frey [entry F379 - they had 4 children] 2. Angela *15 Aug 1851 Billed oo 7 Jan 1889 to Joa. Pratsko [entry P551] The mismatch in Casper's ages at marriage and death are why the birth year is uncertain. Some other pieces of information. Joannes Pratsko was a widower when he married Angela. It looks like his first wife was Agnes Linye. There's no further data about her. Joannes's parents were Joan[nes] Pratsko and Marg[aretha] Sturm. In Gr. Jetscha, he lived in house #498. When he married Angela and when Antonius was born they lived in Billed house #499, and in #449 when Angela was born (assuming that's not a typo). --- Eric -----Original Message----- From: banat-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:banat-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Harold Bratsko Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 6:55 PM To: Banat_List Subject: [BANAT-L] Pratsko/Preuszinger Eric, First of all I thank you for your time and effort very much ! The reason for the original query was to verify my ggreatgrandmothers age . When she and ggrandad came over in 1912 from Gilad her age was given as 36 which didn't add up. I believe this was a missprint. I have since found her tomb stone and it has her birthday as 1851. She died in 1927 in Trenton. There is a lot of tidbits in this family. Supposedly she had another child in 1903, a son named Georg . He is mentioned in her obit. I have no clue who he is. My father never mentioned him. This seems unlikely because she would have been 52 years old at the time ! Of course there is a lot my Father never mentioned ! This seems to be a common thing with people from the Banat areas and from that era. I have learned it takes a lot of time and effort to track down all available information. By the way, does it mention where Angela Preuszinger parents were from ? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again, Harold Bratsko

Harold- I was poking through some old Banat mail and came across your inquiry. Hopefully you've received more information in the intervening 4 years. Anyway, in addition to the information that Dave Dreyer sent you from Billed OSB entry p551... Angela PREUSZINGER also had another child (in OSB entry p554) when she was single: Catharina PREUSZINGER *19 Mar 1879 oo 22 Feb 1903 to Mathias STEUER. (Catharina's godfather was Nicolaus PRITZ [entry p609]. Angela had earlier been godmother to Nicolaus' 8th child Angela PRITZ *2 Dec 1876.) Mathias STEUER and Catharina emigrated to Trenton 2 years after they were married. The OSB cites information from Dave's passenger list extractions for this. Here's the entry from Dave's list: >>> STEIER Mathias -[S360]- Age: 26 -From: Billed -DtAr: Tuesday, 25 Apr 1905 - To: Trenton, NJ -Via: Bre/NY -Ship: Kronprinz Wilhelm -Note: Accompanied by wife Katharina 26. Going to join cousin, Wendel Gautuer [*1 Feb 1870, son of Josef Steuer and Magdalena Tritz, oo to Katharina Preiszinger]. <<< One other interesting tidbit is that Joannes PRATSKO appears to be several years younger than Angela. His birthdate (in Gr. Jetscha) is listed as *9 Dec 1865, which would make him 14 years younger than Angela. --- Eric Benshetler -----Original Message----- From: Dave Dreyer [mailto:ddreyer@pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:42 AM To: BANAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Dates Harold; >From the Billed family book. Pratsko Johann *Gr Jetscha oo 7 Jan 1889 Billed Preuszinger Angela, dau of Kaspar Preissinger and Barbara Pritz *15 Aug 1851 Billed kids Anton *6 Oct 1889 Billed oo Trenton NJ to Lina Weigand Angela *4 Jul 1891 Billed Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Bratsko" <bhbrat24@msn.com> To: <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 6:56 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] Dates > Hi everyone, > I have some conflicting dates on my ggrandmother and was wondering if anyone could please verify them. > My info is that an Angela Preuzinger, or Preissinger was born in Billed on August 15, 1851. She married a Joannes > Pratsko in Billed on January 7, 1889. But the ellis island records show her as 36 in 1912. I suspect the birth date is > wrong or she had a daughter by the same name who also married my ggrandfather ! His ages on everything seems > to be correct. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated ! > Harold Bratsko >

Tom, There are several pages of WERSCHING and I can send you the info if you like. It will need to be scanned first. Please let me know if this works for you. Eileen Lund-Johnson On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Tom and Elaine Schneider <sch64@charter.net > wrote: > Does someone on the list have a reference for Neubeschenowa? I recently > learned that I may have an early connection to Neubeschenowa in one of my > ancestral lines. Here is what I have learned. > > WERSCHING, Matthias born January 2, 1788 in Neubeschenowa to Johann > Wersching and Elisabeth Till. (source Nakodorf Familienbuch) > > I would like to verify this and find any further info on this family? > > I greatly appreciate your help and time. > > Tom Schneider > Wausau, WI > sch64@charter.net > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Eric, First of all I thank you for your time and effort very much ! The reason for the original query was to verify my ggreatgrandmothers age . When she and ggrandad came over in 1912 from Gilad her age was given as 36 which didn't add up. I believe this was a missprint. I have since found her tomb stone and it has her birthday as 1851. She died in 1927 in Trenton. There is a lot of tidbits in this family. Supposedly she had another child in 1903, a son named Georg . He is mentioned in her obit. I have no clue who he is. My father never mentioned him. This seems unlikely because she would have been 52 years old at the time ! Of course there is a lot my Father never mentioned ! This seems to be a common thing with people from the Banat areas and from that era. I have learned it takes a lot of time and effort to track down all available information. By the way, does it mention where Angela Preuszinger parents were from ? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again, Harold Bratsko

Very eloquent!!! Glenn Schwartz Rosina T Schmidt wrote: > > Hello to all, > > Sorry, gave you a wrong URL. For "The war against German Culture" article by Dr. Schemm please go to: http://www.hrastovac.net/historical/Schemm-War-against-German-Culture.htm > > Thanks, > > Rosina > www.hrastovac.net > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Glenn Schwartz President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca

Requesting lookups for the Mettler/Metler Surname in the following Family Books... FB Bleiderdingen 1747-1899 (Ehefrau Fam Nr 1526, 1978) FB Bischofsdhron (Fam_Nr 1774-1821) Still wondering where my 4xgg Thomas Metler/Mettler was born (abt 1747)..... he died in Grossjetscha 1819. Kathy Ward (nee Mettler) Stoney Creek, Ontario kward33@cogeco.ca Kathy Ward kward33@cogeco.ca

Does someone on the list have a reference for Neubeschenowa? I recently learned that I may have an early connection to Neubeschenowa in one of my ancestral lines. Here is what I have learned. WERSCHING, Matthias born January 2, 1788 in Neubeschenowa to Johann Wersching and Elisabeth Till. (source Nakodorf Familienbuch) I would like to verify this and find any further info on this family? I greatly appreciate your help and time. Tom Schneider Wausau, WI sch64@charter.net

Hi Tom, The Familienbuch for Neubeschenowa does list Mathias WERSCHING, W447 WERSCHING Johann *08.08.1756 Neubeschenowa +04.10.1796, age 40 oo 04.06.1776 TILL Elisabeth, dau of Johann Till & Katharina NN *03.10.1754 Neubeschenowa Mathias *02.01.1788 Neubeschenowa +18.08.1797 There is more info on the family, including all the children. I will send this to you off-list. Best regards, --Karen On Mar 12, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Tom and Elaine Schneider wrote: > Does someone on the list have a reference for Neubeschenowa? I > recently > learned that I may have an early connection to Neubeschenowa in one > of my > ancestral lines. Here is what I have learned. > > WERSCHING, Matthias born January 2, 1788 in Neubeschenowa to Johann > Wersching and Elisabeth Till. (source Nakodorf Familienbuch) > > I would like to verify this and find any further info on this family? > > I greatly appreciate your help and time. > > Tom Schneider > Wausau, WI > sch64@charter.net