Jody McKim forwarded a message from Richard Jaeger about the new Mercydorf Familienbuch. I would like to inform you that on Saturday April 10th Richard Jaeger stepped down as chairman of AKdFF. During the spring meeting of the AKdFF on Sunday April 11th in Sindelfingen Guenter Junkers was elected as interim chairman. The next regular meeting of AKdFF at which a new executive will be elected will take place on October 17th 2010 in Sindelfingen. Regards Guenter Junkers akdff@genealogy.net

AKdFF = Arbetiskreis der Familen Forscher = Families reserachers work group Rosina www.hrastovac.net > For those of us less familiar with acronyms - what does AKdFF represent? > Congratulations to Guenter on his new responsibilities. > > Denise Sproed > (with ancestors from Pankota & Neupanat) > > My genealogy related pages are at: > http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~merritt/ > and http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~merritt/ > The latter created using John Cardinal's Second Site >

For those of us less familiar with acronyms - what does AKdFF represent? Congratulations to Guenter on his new responsibilities. Denise Sproed (with ancestors from Pankota & Neupanat) My genealogy related pages are at: http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~merritt/ and http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~merritt/ The latter created using John Cardinal's Second Site ----- Original Message ----- From: "CG Junkers" <CGJunkers@web.de> > I would like to inform you that on Saturday April 10th Richard Jaeger > stepped down as chairman of AKdFF. > During the spring meeting of the AKdFF on Sunday April 11th in > Sindelfingen Guenter Junkers was elected as interim chairman. > The next regular meeting of AKdFF at which a new executive will be elected > will take place on October 17th 2010 in Sindelfingen. > > Regards > Guenter Junkers > akdff@genealogy.net

JoAnn; The Modosch family book by Porte and his wife, covers the period 1781 to 1854. It is now out of print. There are no Rettingers listed in the book which means that your Rettringers arrived in Modosch sometime after 1854. Rettinger is a common surname in nearby Stefansfeld and Setschan and is likely the origin of the Modosch Rettingers. There are family books for Stefansfeld and Setschan but I cannot make a connection with your Carl Rettinger and any of those in these two family books. Obviously there is a one generation gap between your hand-me-down family history and Rettinger data in published sources. This is a very common problem with Banat researchers. So far as I know, on one has copies of the Modosch KBs after 1854 which is where you will find the data needed to bridge the gap. You might consider contacting Marta Istvan who is a family history researcher located in Gr Kikinda. Martha is knowledgeable about archives in this region of the Banat with location of KBs, has a good reputation among Banat list subscribers, communicates in English and has very reasonable rates. Should you want to contact Marta her address is; marta.istvan@yahoo.com If you look at the distribution of the Samson surname in the passenger ship database at; http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~banatdata/DDB/HomePage.htm It is fairly widely distributed among villages of the lower Temesch and Bega so it is difficult to pinpoint an initial place to search. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg and JoAnn Douthwaite" <douthwaite@wi.rr.com> To: <Banat-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 6:51 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] Rettinger > My Great Grandfather and Grandfather came from Modosch. My Great Grandfather is Carl Rettinger. He came over to Ellis Island in 1910. My Grandfather, Johann Rettinger, came over in 1922 to Ellis Island and settled in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. The rest of the Rettinger clan came over to the U.S. and settled in St. Louis, Missouri. Does this ring a bell to anyone? Johann was born in Cavos, Yugoslavia in 1890. He was a baker. His father, Carl, was a furrier. Johann's Grandfather was Nikolas Samson (obviously his mother's father). > > JoAnn Douthwaite

Cathy, A quick check of St. Hubert, Molidorf and Hatzfeld yields nothing like Berweiler/Perweiler. Cheers, Bill In a message dated 4/16/2010 7:52:19 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rcateuf@yahoo.com writes: Hello, I have been helping a fellow researcher from the Lorraine with his Berweiler/Perweiler line in Mercydorf. I was wondering if any Berweilers show up in other villages in the Banat - particularly the French ones. His ancestor is Michel Berweiler of Hargarten-aux-Mines, Moselle, Lorraine. Thanks, Cathy Teufel O'Neill ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://www.banaterheide.de/fambuch/perjamosch/perj_a_f/FB-B12.htm<http://www.banaterheide.de/fambuch/perjamosch/perj_a_f/FB-B12.htm> Found a couple in Perjamosch, check above link. Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: Catherine Teufel<mailto:rcateuf@yahoo.com> To: BANAT-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 8:51 AM Subject: [BANAT-L] Berweiler/Perweiler in the Banat Hello, I have been helping a fellow researcher from the Lorraine with his Berweiler/Perweiler line in Mercydorf. I was wondering if any Berweilers show up in other villages in the Banat - particularly the French ones. His ancestor is Michel Berweiler of Hargarten-aux-Mines, Moselle, Lorraine. Thanks, Cathy Teufel O'Neill ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:BANAT-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Cathy, There is nothing in the Triebswetter Fb either. --Karen On Apr 16, 2010, at 8:14 AM, wknuttel@aol.com wrote: > Cathy, > A quick check of St. Hubert, Molidorf and Hatzfeld yields nothing like > Berweiler/Perweiler. > Cheers, > Bill > > > In a message dated 4/16/2010 7:52:19 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > rcateuf@yahoo.com writes: > > Hello, > > I have been helping a fellow researcher from the Lorraine with his > Berweiler/Perweiler line in Mercydorf. I was wondering if any > Berweilers show up > in other villages in the Banat - particularly the French ones. His > ancestor is Michel Berweiler of Hargarten-aux-Mines, Moselle, > Lorraine. > > Thanks, > Cathy Teufel O'Neill

Hello, I have been helping a fellow researcher from the Lorraine with his Berweiler/Perweiler line in Mercydorf.  I was wondering if any Berweilers show up in other villages in the Banat - particularly the French ones.  His ancestor is Michel Berweiler of Hargarten-aux-Mines, Moselle, Lorraine. Thanks, Cathy Teufel O'Neill

The following announcement about a new Familienbuch for Mercydorf was posted on the DVHH List: Begin forwarded message: > From: "Jody McKim" <jodymckim@comcast.net> > Date: April 15, 2010 3:16:50 PM PDT > To: "dvhh-l" <DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES@rootsweb.com>, "Alex Leeb" <ajleeb@shaw.ca > > > Subject: [DVHH] Mercydorf Family Book 1734 to 1843 + parishes of > Baratzhausen, Hodony & Zsadany, + entries from Neubeschenowa & Sankt > Andres. > > Just in from Richard Jäger, AkdFF President, Original German message > below > the English verson, translation by Rose Vetter. > > To be published soon: The Family Book of the Roman-Catholic parish of > Mercydorf, Banat, its affiliated parishes of Baratzhausen, Hodony and > Zsadany, with entries from Neubeschenowa and Sankt Andres. > > The book has 558 pages and lists 2982 families who lived in > Mercydorf and > its affiliated parishes from settlement in 1734 until 1843. An > index of the > wives who married into the families, as well as a village index are > included. In addition, there is a history of Mercydorf at the > beginning of > the book, directions for use and greetings by HOG president Bianka > Berger. > The price will depend on the number of advance orders and the print > run, but > will be less than 50 Euros. The advance orders will determine the > number of > books printed. Therefore, we ask for binding advance orders to: > > Richard Jäger > Ruhrstrasse 7 > 68167 Mannheim > Germany > > E-mail: richard.s.jaeger@t-online.de > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Richard Jaeger > To: Mercydorf Coordinator > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 3:18 AM > Subject: Re: Mercydorf Book > > Familienbuch Mercydorf > > Das Familienbuch der röm.-kath. Pfarrgemeinde Mercydorf im Banat mit > den > Filialen Baratzhausen, Hodony und Zsadany, sowie Einträgen aus > Neubeschenowa > und Sankt Andres für die Zeitspanne 1734 bis 1843 wird demnächst > erscheinen. > > Das Buch enthält 2982 Familien auf 558 Seiten, die von der > Ansiedlung bis um > das Jahr 1843 in Mercydorf oder den Filialgemeinden lebten. Dem Buch > ist ein > Index der eingeheirateten Ehefrauen und ein Ortsindex beigefügt. > Außerdem > findet sich am Anfang des Buches eine historische Beschreibung der > Gemeinde > Mercydorf ebenso eine Benutzereinleitung und die Grußworte der > HOG-Vorsitzenden Bianka Berger. > > Der Preis richtet sich nach der Zahl der Vorbestellungen und der > Höhe der > Auflage. Der Preis wird jedoch unter 50 Euro liegen. Es werden nur > soviele > Familienbücher gedruckt wie es Vorbestellungen gibt. Wir bitten > deshalb um > verbindliche Vorbestellungen an > > Richard Jäger > Ruhrstr.7 > 68167 Mannheim > E-Mail: richard.s.jaeger@t-online.de .

Hello Amy, That's easy: census on 1931! Rosina www.hrastovac.net > > > Hello, > > > Does anyone know where the information in these pages comes from? > http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/ESE/banat_s.htm > > > I'm just wondering how they know how many people were living in these > towns in certain dates? Setschafeld lists 731 people in 1931, but other > towns list dates of 1910, 1913, 1930, 1940. And it gives percentages of > how many were Germans. Does anyone know where this information comes > from? I didn't see any sources listed. > > > Thanks, > Amy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Do I detect St. Nick in that name? Fran Matkovich ----- Original Message ----- From: Charlie Tiller To: banat@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] town locations and other names For Nemetzentnichdy, you might also try Nemetczernja, which is also Deutsch and Serbish Zerne. There are various similar spellings. Charlie Tiller charlietiller@hotmail.com St. Paul, MN > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:37:11 -0500 > Subject: [BANAT-L] town location and other names > > Dear Banaters, > I need help in locating some towns, and alternate names for the > following towns-found on ship manifest documents. > > Szentlangfalva, Romania > Obalish, Romania > Nemetzentnichdy, Hungary _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For Nemetzentnichdy, you might also try Nemetczernja, which is also Deutsch and Serbish Zerne. There are various similar spellings. Charlie Tiller charlietiller@hotmail.com St. Paul, MN > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:37:11 -0500 > Subject: [BANAT-L] town location and other names > > Dear Banaters, > I need help in locating some towns, and alternate names for the > following towns-found on ship manifest documents. > > Szentlangfalva, Romania > Obalish, Romania > Nemetzentnichdy, Hungary _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1

Hello, Does anyone know where the information in these pages comes from? http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/ESE/banat_s.htm I'm just wondering how they know how many people were living in these towns in certain dates? Setschafeld lists 731 people in 1931, but other towns list dates of 1910, 1913, 1930, 1940. And it gives percentages of how many were Germans. Does anyone know where this information comes from? I didn't see any sources listed. Thanks, Amy

hi could I have the mail adress from Edgar Aldag thanks Charles

Here are a couple of suggestions; keep in mind they are only ideas. 1. Szentlangfalva -- Szent-Leanyfalva, Arad (Hungarian) = Sânleani (Romanian), which may be in the Sigmundsfeld area 2. Obalish, Romania -- no ideas, sorry. 3. Nemetzentnichdy, Hungary -- Nemet Szent Mihaly Szent-Milhaly (Hungarian) = Sánmihalu (Romanian) or Sánmihaiu, Deutsch-Sankt_Mihcale (German), Grosspetersdorf (Austrian) Try Torontál county. Good luck! Eileen -----Original Message----- From: banat-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:banat-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ken Christie Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 5:02 PM To: lpflau@ilstu.edu Cc: Banat-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] town location and other names Lorraine...   I ran all of these names plus some alternate spellings through Hungarian Village Finder and came up empty.  I've found that the spellings of villages of origin on ship manifests is a challenge. Ken Christie (njgcards@yahoo.com) 112 Indigo Cove Kyle, TX 78640 --- On Wed, 4/14/10, Harold Bratsko <bhbrat24@msn.com> wrote: From: Harold Bratsko <bhbrat24@msn.com> Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] town location and other names To: Banat-L@rootsweb.com, lpflau@ilstu.edu Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 3:17 PM Lorraine,         What port did these names come through ? Dave Dreyer's web sit shows a Pflaumer coming from Neupaulisch and a Siks coming from Mokrin. I ran your town names through the Shetl seeker and it comes up with nothing. What are the peoples first names?                                                                              Harold   ----- Original Message -----   From: lpflau@ilstu.edu<mailto:lpflau@ilstu.edu>   To: Banat-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:Banat-L@rootsweb.com>   Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:37 PM   Subject: [BANAT-L] town location and other names     Dear Banaters,      I need help in locating some towns, and alternate names for the    following towns-found on ship manifest documents.              Szentlangfalva, Romania              Obalish, Romania              Nemetzentnichdy, Hungary   Looking for Pflaumer and Siks ( Sicks, Sziks, Six)   Thank you   Lorraine   --------------------------------------------------------------   This message was sent using Illinois State University Webmail.       -------------------------------   To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:BANAT-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try: Szent-Leanyfalva Maybe Ujpalos? And the last one is probably Nemetz Szent (something)... See http://www.hungarianvillagefinder.com/HVFIndex2/03_ARAD.html Vicki Albu -----Original Message----- From: banat-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:banat-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of lpflau@ilstu.edu Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 1:37 PM To: Banat-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BANAT-L] town location and other names Dear Banaters, I need help in locating some towns, and alternate names for the following towns-found on ship manifest documents. Szentlangfalva, Romania Obalish, Romania Nemetzentnichdy, Hungary Looking for Pflaumer and Siks ( Sicks, Sziks, Six) Thank you Lorraine -------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Illinois State University Webmail. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Begin forwarded message: > From: Karen Dalton Preston <Karen@golden-hills.com> > Date: April 14, 2010 1:33:58 PM PDT > To: lpflau@ilstu.edu > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] town location and other names > > Hi Lorraine, > > I checked a Hungarian Gazetteer -- "Gazetteer of the Kingdom of > Hungary", which list place names of the former Kingdom of Hungary in > the 1880's. This includes an area much larger than Hungary is today. > 1. Szentlangfalva, Romania > this is probably Szentleányfalva, in Arad county, Romania, also > known as Senlan > > 2. Obalish, Romania > the closest listing is for Obarsia, Romania, also known as Obersa, > near Arad > > 3. Nemetzentnichdy, Hungary > the closest listing is for Nemetszentmihaly, there are 2, one in > Temes county; one in Vas county > > I hope this helps, > --Karen > On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:37 AM, lpflau@ilstu.edu wrote: > >> Dear Banaters, >> I need help in locating some towns, and alternate names for the >> following towns-found on ship manifest documents. >> >> Szentlangfalva, Romania >> Obalish, Romania >> Nemetzentnichdy, Hungary >> >> Looking for Pflaumer and Siks ( Sicks, Sziks, Six) >> >> >> Thank you >> Lorraine >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message was sent using Illinois State University Webmail. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >

Thank you to everyone who provided me with a recipe of sweet milk bread and "grappa". I found a family member that had the receipes and am pasting them for all of you here! Nana’s Grappa 3 egg yokes 2 cups warm milk 1 T. yeast 1/2 cup sugar 1 tsp salt 1 tsp. Vanilla 1/2 cup veg. oil 4 cups white flour ( will need at least 1/2 cup kneading and rolling) Dissolve yeast in warm milk, add sugar, egg yokes, oil and vanilla. Mix in 2 cups flour and then add salt. Add remaining flour and knead. If mixture is stick add small amounts of flour just to work easier. Dough must be very soft. Form 2 balls and place in a oil lined bowl and cover with plastic wrap for 40 minutes. Roll our one ball at a time to about 2 inches thick and cut circles. Place on floured board and cover to raise for 40 minutes. Mean while prepare your deep fryer with new oil. Take donut and with thumb and index finger tear center to make a hole and place in hot oil. Careful not to croud fryer as they will not cook evenly. Watch temp. Med heat works best. drain on newspaper or paper towel and dust with any sugers you like. Nana’s Milk Bread 1 quart (four cups) warm water 1 quart warm milk 4 egg yokes 3 tab yeast 1/2 cup sugar 1/2 cup veg oil 3 T. ground ginger 2 tab salt 17 cups white flour (extra needed for working dough) Egg yoke mix: 2 egg yokes + 2 tab water. Combine milk, water, yeast and sugar, allow to set until foamy. Add oil, egg yokes, ginger and 2 cups of flour at a time, adding salt after some flour has been added. Mixing well between then knead for 3-4 minutes. Cover and allow dough to rest for 20 minutes. Knead well again after rest. Cover and allow to raise 1 hour. To braid dough for fancy loaves take dough the size of a soft ball. Working on a floured board, roll dough in a rope shape 10 inches long,3 inches thick ( make 3) braid & form a circle and tuck ends under loaf. I put my big round loaves in a big glass pie pan. Brush with egg yoke mix and allow to raise 40 minutes. Have oven at 375 degrees. Bake for 45 minutes. Place bakes loaves on cooling rack and brush while still hot with sugar solution ( 1/2 cup sugar and 3 T. hot water) this should cover all loaves. This should make 4-5 big loaves. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2

Lorraine...   I ran all of these names plus some alternate spellings through Hungarian Village Finder and came up empty.  I've found that the spellings of villages of origin on ship manifests is a challenge. Ken Christie (njgcards@yahoo.com) 112 Indigo Cove Kyle, TX 78640 --- On Wed, 4/14/10, Harold Bratsko <bhbrat24@msn.com> wrote: From: Harold Bratsko <bhbrat24@msn.com> Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] town location and other names To: Banat-L@rootsweb.com, lpflau@ilstu.edu Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 3:17 PM Lorraine,         What port did these names come through ? Dave Dreyer's web sit shows a Pflaumer coming from Neupaulisch and a Siks coming from Mokrin. I ran your town names through the Shetl seeker and it comes up with nothing. What are the peoples first names?                                                                              Harold   ----- Original Message -----   From: lpflau@ilstu.edu<mailto:lpflau@ilstu.edu>   To: Banat-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:Banat-L@rootsweb.com>   Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:37 PM   Subject: [BANAT-L] town location and other names     Dear Banaters,      I need help in locating some towns, and alternate names for the    following towns-found on ship manifest documents.              Szentlangfalva, Romania              Obalish, Romania              Nemetzentnichdy, Hungary   Looking for Pflaumer and Siks ( Sicks, Sziks, Six)   Thank you   Lorraine   --------------------------------------------------------------   This message was sent using Illinois State University Webmail.       -------------------------------   To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:BANAT-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lorraine, What port did these names come through ? Dave Dreyer's web sit shows a Pflaumer coming from Neupaulisch and a Siks coming from Mokrin. I ran your town names through the Shetl seeker and it comes up with nothing. What are the peoples first names? Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: lpflau@ilstu.edu<mailto:lpflau@ilstu.edu> To: Banat-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:Banat-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:37 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] town location and other names Dear Banaters, I need help in locating some towns, and alternate names for the following towns-found on ship manifest documents. Szentlangfalva, Romania Obalish, Romania Nemetzentnichdy, Hungary Looking for Pflaumer and Siks ( Sicks, Sziks, Six) Thank you Lorraine -------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Illinois State University Webmail. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:BANAT-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message