I will second what Glenn said. I was on the tour. Stasa and Sorin were excellent hosts, they went out of their way to help us. Also Glenn put an immense effort into planning the tour so everyone had an enjoyable time. Ray On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Glenn Schwartz <gschwartz@accesscomm.ca>wrote: > Hello all, > > I have finally got my head above water after returning from our three > week group tour to Europe, including the Banat. A good time was had by > all, due in no small part to our two guides, Stasa Cvetkovic and Sorin > Fortiu. Stasa is an organizer extrordinaire and Sorin is the authority > on Banat, especially Romania. Their knowledge of people and places and > their translation skills were vital components of our trip. I can't say > enough good things about both of them. > > If anyone would like to follow our trip, I posted a blog at > zichydorf10.blogspot.com. > -- > Glenn Schwartz > > President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) > Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, > Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in > Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in > Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. > Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca > -------------------------- > zweite Ehe . > second marriage . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I appreciate the responses that I have been getting, regarding a good Banat map. I am aware of the dvhh map and I use it constantly. What I neglected to mention is that I am looking for a 'real' map. One that I can hang on my wall or use anytime. One that I can purchase. If there are others of you that know, please let me know. Thank you for all of the responses that I have received so far. Peggy mpkausch@sbcglobal.net wrote: > Denise - Thank you so much. These are excellent. > Michael Kausch > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denise Sproed" <denisesproed@onlinenw.com> > To: <BANAT@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:44 PM > Subject: [BANAT-L] Good map of the Banat > > > >> My favorite map is at >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~romban/map/xymap.html >> >> Another site linked to that with Village Index is at >> http://www.dvhh.org/banat/village/index.htm >> >> Denise in Oregon >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Peggy Miller" <milpegg@centurytel.net> >> To: "DVHH Mailing List" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com>; "Banat >> Mailing list" <BANAT@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:02 PM >> Subject: [BANAT-L] Good map of the Banat >> >> >> >>> I think this topic has been addresses in the past, but I can not seem to >>> find it. I am looking for someone who can recommend a good map of the >>> Banat area that might use both the German and Hungarian names of the >>> villages. And perhaps the current day name too? >>> Thanks, >>> Peggy Miller >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Dear List - Special thanks to Werner & Pierre who patiently provided precisely what I needed in terms of insight and info on my gggg grndmthr Anna Margaretha Mittler's family in Ulmbach, for which I am most grateful!  Turns out of those ten pages, she is related to the vast majority, and we have found another 2 generations, back to original settler Joh. Georg Mittler of Trierischen b um 1709, who was first married in 1738 in Tscherwenka.  Am still curious however, whether there are many Werschings covered in Ulmbach (have made some headway - WK 44/40 thanks to Karen/Tschanad reference, but still trying to connect back to Flacker work, as yet unsuccessfully.)  It's been GREAT hunting!  Many, many thanks to all who so generously give their time! Theresa ----- Original Message ----- From: banat-request@rootsweb.com To: banat@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:01:57 AM Subject: BANAT Digest, Vol 5, Issue 166 Today's Topics:    1. Anna Margaretha Mitler/Midler/Mittler -Ulmbach (Dave Dreyer)    2. Sorin & Stasa (Glenn Schwartz)    3. Re: Sorin & Stasa (Rosina T Schmidt)    4. Dr. Geiger's book (Rosina T Schmidt) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:57:59 -0700 From: "Dave Dreyer" <ddreyer@pacbell.net> Subject: [BANAT-L] Anna Margaretha Mitler/Midler/Mittler -Ulmbach To: "Banat List" <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <698674CC989C43B1910072A015E78C57@D99J3Q21> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8";         reply-type=original Theresa; There are about 10 pages of Mittlers in the second volume of the Ulmbach family book and without more precise information it is difficult to find the guys you are looking for. Similar comments apply to Wersching. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theresa Olinzock" <famhist@wowway.com> To: <BANAT@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 4:24 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] Look up Request: Anna Margaretha Mitler/Midler/Mittler -Ulmbach > Dear List > > I am looking for any information from the Ul mach Familienbuch regarding > Anna Margaretha Mittler/Mitler/Midler's birth, siblings, parents, or her > other children (if any) from husband Jak. Niclos. Also, i s there much > more information contained in the Ulmbach Familienbuch about this family > or other Wersching or Mittler families? > > Here is what I know of my gggg grandmother's marriage to Johann Wersching > from the NeuBeschenowa Familienbuch by Hans Grimm(see below). > > W449 WERSCHING Johann > > 1 o 02.11.1790 Perjamosch Hn162 Tz: Jakob Ehling.Philipp Hollerbach > > FB.Perjamosch S.1621 W260 von A. Kr?mer o 02.11.1790 Perjamosch Hn162 Tz: > Jakob Ehling.Philipp Hollerbach > > FB.Perjamosch S.1621 W260 von A. Kr?mer > > HOLLERBACH Katharina Tv. Franz H. u. Susanna Elling Tv. Franz H. u. > Susanna Elling > > * 05.02.1775 Perjamosch ?18.02.1796 Nb. 22 J. > > Q: Fb Pj W260 > > 1 Katharina *11.02.1791 Pj * in Periamosch > > 2 Anna Maria *15.08.1793 Nb A.M.Hoffmann.Jakoby Math. A.M.Hoffmann.Jakoby > Math. > > 3 Mathias *22.06.1795 Nb <W454> Math.Franzen.Magd.Mussler <W454> > Math.Franzen.Magd.Mussler > > 2 o Hn162 o Hn162 > > MITTLER Anna Margaretha Tv. Nik. M. u. A. Maria Gremer [Mitler Midler] Tv. > Nik. M. u. A. Maria Gremer [Mitler Midler] > > * 24.04.1774 Ulmbach > > verm.Wwe.von Jak. Niclos Ulmbach Q: FB Ulb 682.7 > > 1 Barbara *22.11.1797 Nb ?18.09.1798 B.Trajer.Christ.Wersching > B.Trajer.Christ.Wersching > > 2 Peter *05.06.1799 Nb <W455> P.Eberhard.Julianna Lenin <W455> > P.Eberhard.Julianna Lenin > > 3 Jakob *27.08.1801 ?13.12.1801 *+Mastort > > 4 Anton *27.01.1803 *Mastort > > 5 Angela *09.12.1806 ?10.12.1806 *+Ruskodorf > > 6 Georg *11.03.1808 *Ruskodorf > > 7 Martin * 1814 > >> For informational purposes, after examining Ruskodorf records I find that > Johann and Anna Margaretha moved their family to Ruskodorf (KisOrosz) > where they had other children in 1805, 1810, 1811, & Martin 1814, and > where she was laid to rest on 30 Mar 1814 "Margaretha Versingin". > >> Thanks so much for any information from the Ulmbach Familienbuch or other > sources and thoughts you may have to offer. > > Theresa

Peggy, There will be Banat maps for sale at the Mt. Angel conference Sept. 16-19th. I hope you will be able to come. Rosina www.hrastovac.net

Denise - Thank you so much. These are excellent. Michael Kausch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise Sproed" <denisesproed@onlinenw.com> To: <BANAT@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:44 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] Good map of the Banat > My favorite map is at > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~romban/map/xymap.html > > Another site linked to that with Village Index is at > http://www.dvhh.org/banat/village/index.htm > > Denise in Oregon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peggy Miller" <milpegg@centurytel.net> > To: "DVHH Mailing List" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com>; "Banat > Mailing list" <BANAT@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:02 PM > Subject: [BANAT-L] Good map of the Banat > > >>I think this topic has been addresses in the past, but I can not seem to >> find it. I am looking for someone who can recommend a good map of the >> Banat area that might use both the German and Hungarian names of the >> villages. And perhaps the current day name too? >> Thanks, >> Peggy Miller > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I agree! Michael Kausch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy Miller" <milpegg@centurytel.net> To: "DVHH Mailing List" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com>; "Banat Mailing list" <BANAT@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:02 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] Good map of the Banat >I think this topic has been addresses in the past, but I can not seem to > find it. I am looking for someone who can recommend a good map of the > Banat area that might use both the German and Hungarian names of the > villages. And perhaps the current day name too? > Thanks, > Peggy Miller > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I think this topic has been addresses in the past, but I can not seem to find it. I am looking for someone who can recommend a good map of the Banat area that might use both the German and Hungarian names of the villages. And perhaps the current day name too? Thanks, Peggy Miller

My favorite map is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~romban/map/xymap.html Another site linked to that with Village Index is at http://www.dvhh.org/banat/village/index.htm Denise in Oregon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy Miller" <milpegg@centurytel.net> To: "DVHH Mailing List" <donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com>; "Banat Mailing list" <BANAT@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:02 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] Good map of the Banat >I think this topic has been addresses in the past, but I can not seem to > find it. I am looking for someone who can recommend a good map of the > Banat area that might use both the German and Hungarian names of the > villages. And perhaps the current day name too? > Thanks, > Peggy Miller

Hello to all, If you are researching your Russian-German roots, this pages might be of help: http://www.mennonites.ca/dorfbericht/index.html See you all in Mt. Angel, Rosina www.hrastovac.net

Hello Novi Banovci and Franzfeld Researchers, Would you be able to help Lydia Decker tango3301@att.net with her search for: Philipp Degen, * 1848 in Novi Banovci, daughter Elisabeth Degen, *31 Oct 1879 in Novi Banovci. Johann Zier, *24 Jul 1878 in Franzfeld, + WWI Many thanks, Rosina www.hrastovac.net

Hello Researching Friends, Dr. Geiger's latest book "Das Schicksal der Jugoslawiendeutschen in der Kroatischen und Serbischen Literatur" just came into my hands, where he elegantly weaves between books published by various Croatian and Serbian authors all describing the lives and times of the Danube Swabians living in their midst before, during and after WWII war. The book is written in German and Croatian. ISBN 978-953-99941-4-1, 2009. It is interesting to see just how much it was already published in recent years. Well known names also: Predrag Adamov, Ludwig Bauer, Ivan Brajdic, Vladimir Geiger, Damilo Kiš, Mladen Markov, Josip Palada, Mišo Slavonac, Aleksander Tišna, Pavle Uginov, Johannes Weidenheim, just to name a few. To order the book, please write to: geiger@isp.hr See you all in Mt. Angel, Rosina www.hrastovac.net

Thanks, Glenn, We are looking forwards to your presentation about your trip at Mt. Angel! See you there, Rosina www.hrastovac.net Hello all, I have finally got my head above water after returning from our three week group tour to Europe, including the Banat. A good time was had by all, due in no small part to our two guides, Stasa Cvetkovic and Sorin Fortiu. Stasa is an organizer extrordinaire and Sorin is the authority on Banat, especially Romania. Their knowledge of people and places and their translation skills were vital components of our trip. I can't say enough good things about both of them. If anyone would like to follow our trip, I posted a blog at zichydorf10.blogspot.com. -- Glenn Schwartz President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca -------------------------------

Hello all, I have finally got my head above water after returning from our three week group tour to Europe, including the Banat. A good time was had by all, due in no small part to our two guides, Stasa Cvetkovic and Sorin Fortiu. Stasa is an organizer extrordinaire and Sorin is the authority on Banat, especially Romania. Their knowledge of people and places and their translation skills were vital components of our trip. I can't say enough good things about both of them. If anyone would like to follow our trip, I posted a blog at zichydorf10.blogspot.com. -- Glenn Schwartz President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca

Theresa; There are about 10 pages of Mittlers in the second volume of the Ulmbach family book and without more precise information it is difficult to find the guys you are looking for. Similar comments apply to Wersching. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theresa Olinzock" <famhist@wowway.com> To: <BANAT@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 4:24 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] Look up Request: Anna Margaretha Mitler/Midler/Mittler -Ulmbach > > > > Dear List > > > > I am looking for any information from the Ul mach Familienbuch regarding > Anna Margaretha Mittler/Mitler/Midler's birth, siblings, parents, or her > other children (if any) from husband Jak. Niclos. Also, i s there much > more information contained in the Ulmbach Familienbuch about this family > or other Wersching or Mittler families? > > > > Here is what I know of my gggg grandmother's marriage to Johann Wersching > from the NeuBeschenowa Familienbuch by Hans Grimm(see below). > > > > W449 WERSCHING Johann > > 1 o 02.11.1790 Perjamosch Hn162 Tz: Jakob Ehling.Philipp Hollerbach > > FB.Perjamosch S.1621 W260 von A. Krämer o 02.11.1790 Perjamosch Hn162 Tz: > Jakob Ehling.Philipp Hollerbach > > FB.Perjamosch S.1621 W260 von A. Krämer > > HOLLERBACH Katharina Tv. Franz H. u. Susanna Elling Tv. Franz H. u. > Susanna Elling > > * 05.02.1775 Perjamosch †18.02.1796 Nb. 22 J. > > Q: Fb Pj W260 > > 1 Katharina *11.02.1791 Pj * in Periamosch > > 2 Anna Maria *15.08.1793 Nb A.M.Hoffmann.Jakoby Math. A.M.Hoffmann.Jakoby > Math. > > 3 Mathias *22.06.1795 Nb <W454> Math.Franzen.Magd.Mussler <W454> > Math.Franzen.Magd.Mussler > > 2 o Hn162 o Hn162 > > MITTLER Anna Margaretha Tv. Nik. M. u. A. Maria Gremer [Mitler Midler] Tv. > Nik. M. u. A. Maria Gremer [Mitler Midler] > > * 24.04.1774 Ulmbach > > verm.Wwe.von Jak. Niclos Ulmbach Q: FB Ulb 682.7 > > 1 Barbara *22.11.1797 Nb †18.09.1798 B.Trajer.Christ.Wersching > B.Trajer.Christ.Wersching > > 2 Peter *05.06.1799 Nb <W455> P.Eberhard.Julianna Lenin <W455> > P.Eberhard.Julianna Lenin > > 3 Jakob *27.08.1801 †13.12.1801 *+Mastort > > 4 Anton *27.01.1803 *Mastort > > 5 Angela *09.12.1806 †10.12.1806 *+Ruskodorf > > 6 Georg *11.03.1808 *Ruskodorf > > 7 Martin * 1814 > > > > > > For informational purposes, after examining Ruskodorf records I find that > Johann and Anna Margaretha moved their family to Ruskodorf (KisOrosz) > where they had other children in 1805, 1810, 1811, & Martin 1814, and > where she was laid to rest on 30 Mar 1814 "Margaretha Versingin". > > > > Thanks so much for any information from the Ulmbach Familienbuch or other > sources and thoughts you may have to offer. > > > > Theresa > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Judy, Thanks for your response. Pasted below is the data I have for Hecks in Josefsdorf. As you can see it is not clear where or if Katharina Heck, *8.01.1855, fits in with the data I have. Is there anything in your Stanischitz family book which might clear up this point? Dave Dreyer HECK Anton, son of Josef HECK and Magdalena SCHOEN HN 197 *2 Jun 1823 Stanischitz/Batschka +19 Apr 1897 Josefsdorf 1oo 1840 SCHMIDT Agatha, dau of Mathias SCHMIDT and Katharina MATHEIS *4 Apr 1823 Stanischitz 1 Theresia *5 Apr 1848 Stanischitz/Batschka oo Jakob BERGMANN 2oo 1867 Stanischitz KLEMM Margaret, dau of Anton KLEMM and Agatha NUSPL, wid of Josef ELMER *26 Oct 1834 Stanischitz/Batschka +7 Feb 1923 Josefsdorf HN 25(Modosch) 2 Veronia *1868 Stanischitz/Batschka oo Franz WERTSCHECK HECK Johann, son of Anton HECK and Margaret KLEM HN 28 *26 Jun1865 Stanischitz/Batschka oo 8 Jul 1888 Josefsdorf LABA Barbara, dau of Josef LABA and Rosalia WENDLING ex Sackelhausen *1867 HECK Josef HN 95 ex Stanischitz/Batschka oo PECHL Anna ex Temerin/Batschka 1 Katharina *1883 +30 Apr 1891 Josefsdorf 2 Eva *14 Nov 1885 Josefsdorf 3 Stefan *8 Jun 1888 Josefsdorf 4 Nikolaus *18 Jun 1890 Josefsdorf 5 Josef *23 Oct 1893 Josefsdorf HN 222 To Philadelphia 1911 6 Johann *23 Oct 1893 Josefsdorf HECK Katharina HN 288b ex Modosch 1 Josef *26 Nov 1893 Josefsdorf, To Philadelphia 1911, WWI Draft registration, Cincinnati 2 Maria *11 Mar 1899 Josefsdorf HN 8 +4 Feb 1900 Josefsdorf 3 Johann *2 Apr 1900 Josefsdorf HM 288 +2 Nov 1903 HN 51 Josefsdorf 4 Georg *1906 +24 May 1906 HN 11 Josefsdorf 5 Mathias *7 Jul 1912 Josefsdorf oo M A EICHHORN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Ottinger" <ottinger515@sbcglobal.net> To: "'Dave Dreyer'" <ddreyer@pacbell.net>; "'Akdff-l'" <akdff-l@genealogy.net> Cc: "'Banat List'" <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:33 PM Subject: RE: [BANAT-L] [Akdff-l] Bitte Ergänzung:Setschan zu Karl SCHESZTAK oo Julianna RAABER There are 3 pages of Hecks in the Stanischitz OSB. The closest I could come for a Katharina born in 1853 is: Katharina Heck *8.01.1855 Daughter of Josef Heck * 24.11.1804 in Stanischitz and Katharina Heichele *25.12.1803 in Stanischitz. If you believe this is your Katharina please let me know and I will send the rest of that family information. I did not find the name Schestak listed. Judy -----Original Message----- From: banat-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:banat-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave Dreyer Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:24 PM To: Akdff-l Cc: Banat List Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] [Akdff-l] Bitte Ergänzung:Setschan zu Karl SCHESZTAK oo Julianna RAABER Reinholdt; Pasted below is the family block for Karl Schestak and one of his sons. The first two kids, Nikolaus and Elisabeth who are in the passenger ship record must be the result from the first marriage to Katharina Heck who was from Stanischitz/Batschka. There were several families in Josefsdorf who came from Stanischitz. I think there is a Stanischitz Familienbuch in the Sindelfingen archvies which may have more information of Katharina Heck. This Schestak family moved from North Dakota out to Portland Oregon sometime between 1910 and 1920. Dave Dreyer SCHESTAK Karl HN 257 To ND 1893 *10 Jun 1861 Bakowa +Portland OR 1oo HECK Katharine ex Stanischitz/Batschka *1853 +9 Apr 1886 Josefsdorf 1 Elisabeth *16 Oct 1885 Josefsdorf To Richardton ND 1909 2oo 23 May 1886 Josefsdorf RAABER Julianna, dau of Peter RAABER and Rosina BERGKESSEL, wd of Valentin LAMBERT HN 11 *11 Jul 1852 Setschan 2 Johann *14 Jul 1888 Josefsdorf +14 Jul 1888 Josefsdorf HN 41 3 Josef *30 Sep 1889 Josefsdorf oo Anna BERNAUER 4 Johann *6 May 1892 Josefsdorf +4 Jan 1969 Portland OR, oo Margaret NN SCHESTAK Josef Heinrich, son of Karl SCHESTAK and Julianna RAABER To ND 1893 *30 Sep 1889 Josefsdorf +6 Jun 1984 Portland OR oo 20 Aug 1911 Dickinson ND BERNAUER Anna, dau of Jakob BERNAUER and A M MAZER *20 Dec 1893 Stefansfeld ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reinholdt Lovasz" <lovaszrm@web.de> To: <akdff-l@genealogy.net> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 2:04 PM Subject: [Akdff-l] Bitte Ergänzung:Setschan zu Karl SCHESZTAK oo Julianna RAABER > Familienblatt fr: Karl SCHESZTAK und Julianna RAABER [7215] > Erstellt am 09.06.2010 von Reinholdt Lovasz mit Gen_Plus aus Mandant: > C:\GEN_PLUSWIN\BAKOWA OFB 06.06.2010\ > Vater: > < 15815> Karl SCHESZTAK, rk > * am 10.06.1861 HNr.10 in Bakowa. > ~ am 11.06.1861 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. II. Ba, Seite: 228/56. > Paten: Karl LAMPL; Anna CHRIST. > {SCHESTAK Carl -[S232]- Age: 32 - From: Josefsdorf -DtAr: 11 May 1893 - > To: North Dakota, ND -Via: Bre/Bal -Ship: Gera -Note: Accompanied by > wife, Julia 40 and kids, Nikolaus 11, Elisabeth 5, Josef 3 and Johann > 9/121. Initial destination, New York[*1861, Bakowa. 2oo 23 May 1886 to > Julianna Raaber, *1850, Setschan].} > Eltern: > < 14522> Johann SCHESZTAK (Sestak; Scheszler), rk > * in Jecsa Gross/Kleinjetscha?. > Beruf: Inquilinus. > oo [ 5073] 19.08.1860 in Bakowa mit > < 15091> Margaretha HACKENBERGER (Hakenperger ( geb,Schneider?)), rk > * 1829 in Lowrin TM Banat RO. > [ 7215] > mit > Mutter: > < 21529> Julianna RAABER > * 1850 ? in Setschan ?. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Akdff-l mailing list Akdff-l@genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mm/listinfo/akdff-l ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi everyone- Is there anyway to find vital record information for Mramorak after 1866? I have exhausted David Kemles resources on his website and the Mramorak books that I have been able to find. I am relatively new to researching this area so I am at a loss as to what to try next. Here is my situation: My great grandmother Elisabeth Kaschuba (1884-1917) and her brother Frederick Kaschuba (1877-1933) left Mramorak in 1901. By 1862 all of their aunts and uncles had died (all before age 10) and their grandfather had died as well. Their grandmother married again in 1863. I am trying to figure out how to find: their grandmother's date of death their mother and father's date of death any other siblings - their parents married in 1869 so there must be have been other children Any suggestions are extremely appreciated. Thanks! Karen

Hello Mt. Angel travelers, Some more good news: Pat Haley wrote: "I picked up a cookbook in Sindelfingen at the museum. It is in German and it is called 'Unvergessene Kueche' by Resi Scherer. I want to donate it. Do you think anybody will want a German language cookbook?" Pat, I am sure there will be many of us who just would love to have a German cookbook, so many thanks for you kind donations. See you all in Mt. Angel! Rosina www.hrastovac.net

Hello Mt. Angel Travelers, Our Henry Fischer wrote: "I will provide a set of my books as a donation to the Mt. Angel event: Children of the Danube, The Pioneers, Strangers and Sojourners." That's wonderful, Henry, and your generous contribution is very much appreciated! See you all at Mt. Angel www.dsheritage.com, Rosina www.hrastovac.net

Hello Mt. Angel Travelers, The www.dsheritage.com pages are telling us there are only 97 days to Mt. Angel Conference. Did you register yet? Leah's Strudel making class has for sure many fans. Even Gentlemen Strudel makers! Wow, I AM impressed! For you who are flying in, here is once again the shuttle bus info: http://www.salemoregon.com/salemshuttle/ And if you are driving, make sure to stop at Mt. Hood: http://www.fsvisimages.com/moho2/moho2.html Looking forwards to see you all again, Rosina www.hrastovac.net

Dear List I am looking for any information from the Ul mach Familienbuch regarding Anna Margaretha Mittler/Mitler/Midler's birth, siblings, parents, or her other children (if any) from husband Jak. Niclos.  Also, i s there much more information contained in the Ulmbach Familienbuch about this family or other Wersching or Mittler families?   Here is what I know of my gggg grandmother's marriage to Johann Wersching from the NeuBeschenowa Familienbuch by Hans Grimm(see below).  W449 WERSCHING Johann 1 o 02.11.1790 Perjamosch Hn162 Tz: Jakob Ehling.Philipp Hollerbach FB.Perjamosch S.1621 W260 von A. Krämer o 02.11.1790 Perjamosch Hn162 Tz: Jakob Ehling.Philipp Hollerbach FB.Perjamosch S.1621 W260 von A. Krämer HOLLERBACH Katharina Tv. Franz H. u. Susanna Elling Tv. Franz H. u. Susanna Elling * 05.02.1775 Perjamosch †18.02.1796 Nb. 22 J. Q: Fb Pj W260 1 Katharina *11.02.1791 Pj * in Periamosch 2 Anna Maria *15.08.1793 Nb A.M.Hoffmann.Jakoby Math. A.M.Hoffmann.Jakoby Math. 3 Mathias *22.06.1795 Nb <W454> Math.Franzen.Magd.Mussler <W454> Math.Franzen.Magd.Mussler 2 o Hn162 o Hn162 MITTLER Anna Margaretha Tv. Nik. M. u. A. Maria Gremer [Mitler Midler] Tv. Nik. M. u. A. Maria Gremer [Mitler Midler] *  24.04.1774 Ulmbach verm.Wwe.von Jak. Niclos Ulmbach Q: FB Ulb 682.7 1 Barbara *22.11.1797 Nb †18.09.1798 B.Trajer.Christ.Wersching B.Trajer.Christ.Wersching 2 Peter *05.06.1799 Nb <W455> P.Eberhard.Julianna Lenin <W455> P.Eberhard.Julianna Lenin 3 Jakob *27.08.1801 †13.12.1801 *+Mastort 4 Anton *27.01.1803 *Mastort 5 Angela *09.12.1806 †10.12.1806 *+Ruskodorf 6 Georg *11.03.1808 *Ruskodorf 7 Martin * 1814 For informational purposes, after examining Ruskodorf records I find that Johann and Anna Margaretha moved their family to Ruskodorf (KisOrosz) where they had other children in 1805, 1810, 1811, & Martin 1814, and where she was laid to rest on 30 Mar 1814 "Margaretha Versingin". Thanks so much for any information from the Ulmbach Familienbuch or other sources and thoughts you may have to offer. Theresa