Hi David,      There is a strong Horvath line in Darowa.  I checked, but I could not find your Lorenz.  However, you might find more Horvaths in the surrounding villages.  It might be worth asking for a look-up in Gizeladorf, Bakowa, Nitzkydorf, Lugoj, etc.       I am sorry that I could not be of more help. Cathy Teufel O'Neill

Hello Danube Swabian Researchers, If you are researching the Waffen-SS, this site (in German) might be of interest to you. - Rosina http://www.hagalil.com/lexikon/index.php?title=Ausl%C3%A4ndische_Freiwillige_der_Waffen-SS

Hello All, Someone posted a list of the residents in Ernsthausen in 1830, but I can't figure out what the list is? Can someone please take a look at the list and see if they might know what it is? http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1119508345048905732iElDPK http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1119510222048905732aWfwjW Thanks so much! I would appreciate it! Amy -- "Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle."

Hi Dave, You might have more luck if you put together all the information that's been posted on the list over the years and ask a more directed questions about Lorenz and Anna. From looking through all the information, it appears that there's quite a lot to go on and I think there's many pieces of their lives that could be gathered to put together the puzzle of where they originated from. And as for the Ernsthausen records - you're not going to find anything in those early Ernsthausen records as they only go until 1828, when they established their own parish. You need the 1830's records which are in the archives in Novi Sad. From looking at everything, I'd wager that's where both Lorenz Horvath and Anna Rollinger were both born. I think until the Ernsthausen records are copied, you're probably not going to find their births in other villages (although I think there's still quite a lot of information you could gather from the records in the other villages). You could always contact one of the researchers in Serbia to look up their births in the archives. I'd be willing to bet you'd find them there. Amy -----Original Message----- From: donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:donauschwaben-villages-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of davey1947@suddenlink.net Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 5:46 AM To: BANAT@rootsweb.com; Donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Subject: [DVHH] Brickwalls and hope in the DRE Hello List: I still have 3 brickwalls in my Genealogy, and I am hoping that someone will find these names in the village books that will be printed in the next few years or so. The Surnames are Rollinger, Horvath and Reimschneider (Riemschneider). To refresh the list's memory, Anna Rollinger was born somewhere in the 1830s (location not known at this point, married Lorenz Horvath in about 1856 and died in 1877. I have researched the microfilm for Ernsthausen and did not find her name there. Lorenz (Lorencz) Horvath was born about 1836, remarried Eva Lutz after Anna Rollinger died, Arrived in New York on the Ship Dresden on 21 Nov. 1893 coming from Bremen with his wife Eva and 3 daughters (Age 54). He died 6 April 1915 either in Mt. Angel or Gervais, Oregon. Anna Reimschneider (Riemschneider) was born about 5 March 1840, married Mathias Ehrenreich and they migrated to this country in 1897. They traveled on the Ship Bonn going from Bremen to Baltimore and arrived 2 December 1897. Anna was 56. they immediately went to Lincoln, IL. She died 24 February 1924 in Marshfield, Wood Co. Wisconsin. Supposedly both the Horvath and Ehrenreich families came from Josefsdorf, but most likely they were not born there. I looked at Dave Dreyer's Banat Ship list "Emigration from Banat in the National Archives Ship Records" to get the information on their arrival in the United States. I have found a lot of information in a website involiving research done by a Mr. Palanka. In that website, I found probably the whole list of cities that are in the Banat, which ones have family books, and which ones have websites. I am hoping that this website may help me more as well as the Donauschwaben Research Exchange. I thank the list for all their help in trying to knock down these brick walls. Sincerely, Dave Weinfurtner ------------------------------------- Ehebuch(-buecher) . marriage register. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here are HORVáTH from the Hatzfeld Familienbuch: Hatzfeld was one of the earlier villages settled in 1766. 4251 HORTI, Albert * um. .1818 in Alpár,Ungarn lebt(e) in Groß-Komlosch 8 22.01.1844 in Hf HORVáTH, Theresia Eltern siehe <4255> t 17.02.1824 in Hf 4252 HORVáTH, Johann Wwr. * um. .1780 + 24.03.1864 in Hf Bettler 4253 HORVáTH, Emmerich * um. .1782 + 22.04.1834 in Hf Schlosser 8 30.04.1815 in Hf HIRTH, Theresia Wwe. * um. .1786 + 05.05.1834 in Hf 4254 HORVáTH, Franz * um. .1788 8 07.11.1813 in Hf GENGLER, Elisabeth Eltern siehe <3011> t 07.02.1795 in Hf + 14.03.1865 in Hf 295 Kind(er) a) Anna t 10.11.1813 Hf b) Kaspar t 28.02.1818 Hf Ehe siehe <4263> c) Katharina t 11.05.1820 Hf d) Theodor t 02.11.1822 Hf Ehe siehe <4266> e) Katharina t 04.11.1824 Hf f) Franz t 18.08.1826 Hf + 22.10.1865 in Hf 573 Ehe siehe <4262> g) Sebastian t 21.01.1831 Hf + 04.08.1832 in Hf h) Karolina t 24.11.1832 Hf + 23.01.1835 i) Mathias t 09.12.1836 Hf j) Anna t 30.05.1839 Hf Ehe siehe <2789> k) Karl * 01.04.1841 Hf + 10.06.1842 in Hf 4255 HORVáTH, Johann * um. .1790 Stiefelmacher in Hf 459 8 KRIZSAN, Theresia * um. .1795 + 09.10.1849 in Hf Kind(er) a) Theresia t 17.02.1824 Hf Ehe siehe <4251> b) Josef t 14.05.1828 Hf Ehe siehe <4270> c) Juliana t 14.02.1830 Hf + 06.10.1849 in Hf d) Johann t 16.02.1833 Hf + 26.05.1833 in Hf e) Katharina t 21.03.1835 Hf + 27.08.1835 in Hf 4256 HORVáTH, Anton * um. .1793 8 HORVáTH*, Juliana * um. .1795 Kind(er) a) Stefan t 01.10.1813 Hf 4257 HORVáTH, Michael * um. .1806 Schneidermeister 8 26.11.1831 in Hf BORBáS, Anna * um. .1811 Kind(er) a) Josepha t 25.05.1833 Hf + 20.21.1837 in Hf b) Christina t 08.02.1835 Hf c) Josef Michael t 09.08.1837 Hf + 29.03.1838 in Hf d) Gyula t 29.12.1838 Hf e) Julius t 28.12.1839 Hf f) Susanna Berta * 29.05.1841 Hf Ehe siehe <3210> g) György * 21.02.1844 Hf + 02.02.1845 in Hf h) Peter Zsigmond t 15.12.1845 Hf i) György t 06.03.1848 Hf j) Peter t 27.07.1850 Hf + 27.08.1854 in Hnr 328 k) Theresia t 06.12.1852 Hnr 328 l) Josepha t 08.07.1855 Hf 328 + 29.10.1856 in Hf 328 m) Josepha Viktoria * 25.08.1857 Hf 300 n) Michael * 29.09.1859 Hf 236 4258 HORVáTH, Franz * um. .1810 8 MORVAY, Elisabeth Kind(er) a) Josepha * um. .1834 Rekasch + 22.06.1852 in Hf 4259 HORVáTH, Thomas * um. .1811 + 14.10.1861 in Hf Stiefelmacher 8 13.05.1839 in Hf FEDERSPIEL, Katharina Eltern siehe <2243> t 25.11.1819 in Hf Kind(er) a) Katharina * 24.07.1840 Hf b) Anna * 10.10.1841 Hf c) Juliana * 13.01.1843 Hf d) Theresia t 10.01.1846 Hf + 27.02.1847 in Hf e) Karolina * 11.04.1847 Hf + 11.04.1847 in Hf f) Viktoria t 09.03.1848 Hf + 29.04.1854 in Hnr 242 g) Karl t 04.11.1850 Hf h) Thomas t 09.01.1853 Hnr 288 i) Mathias t 07.06.1857 Hf 102 + 05.03.1859 in Hf 102 4260 HORVáTH, Gabriel * um. .1814 + 16.07.1836 in Hf Soldat 4261 HORVáTH, Michael * um. .1816 8 MATES, Anna Eltern siehe <7162> t 28.11.1816 in Hf Kind(er) a) József * um. .1836 4262 HORVáTH, Franz Eltern siehe <4254> t 18.08.1826 in Hf + 22.10.1865 in Hf 573 8 14.09.1858 in Hf FEITZ, Franziska Eltern siehe <2301> t 19.02.1838 in Hf Kind(er) a) Simeon Adolf * 16.07.1859 Hf 298 b) Martin Franz * 09.02.1866 Hf 4263 HORVáTH, Kaspar Eltern siehe <4254> t 28.02.1818 in Hf 8 08.02.1841 in Hf SCHMIDT, Franziska Eltern siehe <10289> t 07.03.1821 in Hf Kind(er) a) Katharina * 18.05.1841 Hf b) Ludwig * 19.12.1842 Hf 4264 HORVáTH, György * um. .1820 + 02.11.1848 in Hf Soldat 4265 HORVáTH, Franz * um. .1821 8 OPPERT, Katharina * um. .1822 Kind(er) a) Karl * um. .1843 + 08.04.1861 in Hf 4266 HORVáTH, Theodor Eltern siehe <4254> t 02.11.1822 in Hf Zimmermann 8 15.01.1844 in Hf LADáNYI, Elisabeth * um. .1822 Kind(er) a) Viktor * 10.05.1844 Hf b) Franz t 02.02.1846 Hf + 28.05.1853 in Hnr 269 c) Karl t 16.12.1847 Hf d) Theresia t 14.10.1849 Hf e) Elisabeth t 04.09.1851 Hf f) Anna t 05.08.1853 Hnr 269 + 31.07.1854 in Hnr 269 g) Katharina t 22.07.1855 Hf 196 h) Anna t 28.05.1857 Hf 422 i) Peter * 20.05.1859 Hf + 16.12.1859 in Hf 432 j) Michael * 15.11.1861 Hf 487 k) Franziska * 10.04.1863 Hf 549 4267 HORVáTH, Gertrud * um. .1824 + 04.01.1824 in Hf 4268 HORVáTH, Erzsebet * um. .1824 Tochter des Stiefelmachers 4269 HORVáTH, Josef * um. .1826 + 19.09.1826 in Hf 4270 HORVáTH, Josef Eltern siehe <4255> t 14.05.1828 in Hf 8 03.05.1852 in Hf HORVáTH, Katharina * um. .1830 4271 HORVáTH, Georg * um. .1830 + 18.01.1831 in Hf 4272 HORVáTH, Juliane * um. .1831 Kind(er) a) Peter August t 03.12.1851 Hf b) Agnes * um. .1865 + 20.08.1865 in Hf 94 4273 HORVáTH, Karl * um. .1839 in Heufeld Eltern: Samuel Horváth- 8 12.06.1864 in Hf TILL, Anna Eltern siehe <12306> * 15.06.1844 in Hf 4274 HORVáTH, Samuel * um. .1840 8 HANKOVSKY, Anna * um. .1841 Kind(er) a) Sarolta Maria * 11.10.1862 Hf 40 + 20.10.1862 in Hf b) Hajnal Piroska * 07.12.1863 Hf 495 4275 HORVáTH, Adam * um. .1840 in Ernshausen Eltern: Peter Horváth-Christina Kungl 8 22.10.1865 in Hf KOCH, Margaretha Eltern siehe <5588> * 25.04.1843 in Hf 4276 HORVáTH, Samuel * um. .1843 8 HANKOVSZKY, Anna um. .1844 Kind(er) a) Arpád Benjamin * 19.02.1865 Hf 82 5674 KOLOFFON, Mathias * um. .1762 8 HORVáTH, Barbara * um. .1764 Kind(er) a) Johann Nepomuk t 06.09.1782 Hf + 09.09.1784 in Hf b) Anna Maria t 29.07.1785 Hf 7769 MINDA, Josef * um. .1838 lebt(e) in Gut Pejáchevich 8 HORVáTH, Maria * um. .1839 Kind(er) a) Anna * 14.03.1860 Hf 9105 PUFERDING, Anton Eltern siehe <9101> t 21.01.1810 in Hf + 23.02.1855 in Hf 379 3/8 8 04.03.1832 in Hf HORVáTH, Anna weitere Ehe(n) <2559> * um. .1812 Kind(er) a) Katharina t 06.06.1833 Hf 11699 STOFFEL, Peter Eltern siehe <11684> t 02.10.1818 in Hf Radmacher 8 27.05.1845 in Hf weitere Ehe(n) <11700> HORVáTH, Rosina * um. .1820 + 09.10.1849 in Hf Kind(er) a) Pauline t 22.06.1847 Hf b) Elisabeth t 09.02.1849 Hf + 13.10.1849 in Hf 12026 SZáSZ, Josef * um. .1841 8 HORVáTH, Rosa * um. .1842 Kind(er) a) Josef * 30.08.1863 Hf 12491 TROST, August * um. .1808 in Komlosch 8 02.10.1836 in Hf HORVáTH, Anna * um. .1816 82 AMES, Nikolaus * um. .1811 Leineweber 8 18.08.1833 in Hf HORVáTH, Anna Maria * um. .1812 Kind(er) a) Franz t 16.10.1833 Hf + 09.05.1835 in Hf b) Kaspar t 27.02.1835 Hf Ehe siehe <83> c) Katharina t 03.10.1836 Hf + 27.12.1862 in Hf 794 Ehe siehe <10696> d) Nikolaus t 28.09.1838 Hf e) Dionysius * 04.11.1840 Hf f) Franz * 21.12.1842 + 14.07.1862 in Hf 794 g) Franz * 21.12.1842 Hf h) Johann * 31.01.1845 Hf + 19.07.1845 in Hf i) Josef * 26.08.1846 Hf + 01.09.1848 in Hf j) Eva t 20.08.1851 Hf + 19.05.1854 in Hnr 460 k) Michael t 12.12.1853 Hnr 439 + 13.08.1854 in Hnr 439 389 BALOGH, Johann * um. .1818 in Mélykut,Ungarn 8 04.10.1841 in Hf HORVáTH, Anna * um. .1819 in Bezdany,Ungarn 913 BITZA, Wenzel * um. .1800 Schuhmacher 38 18.06.1835 in Hf weitere Ehe(n) <911> <912> HORVáTH, Agnes t um. .1800 + 06.08.1836 in Hf 1096 BOJAR, Stephan um. .1820 8 HORVáTH, Elisabeth * um. .1820 Kind(er) a) Karl * 29.06.1841 Hf 2050 ELIDES, Michael Wwr. * um. .1806 vorherige Ehe unbekannt 28 21.11.1831 in Hf weitere Ehe(n) <2049> HORVáTH, Theresia * um. .1811 Kind(er) 1) Katharina * 10.04.1830 2) Johann t 05.10.1832 Hf 3) Anton t 31.07.1834 Hf + 25.10.1849 in Hf 4) Barbara t 24.02.1836 Hf 5) Nikolaus t 10.10.1837 Hf 2559 FORO, Michael; ev * um. .1819 in Siebenbürgen 8 12.10.1855 in Hf HORVáTH, Anna weitere Ehe(n) <9105> * um. .1812 2789 FRIEDRICH, Mathias Eltern siehe <2781> t 07.07.1836 in Hf 8 06.08.1860 in Hf HORVáTH, Anna Eltern siehe <4254> t 30.05.1839 in Hf Kind(er) a) Franziska * 01.12.1860 Hf 495 b) Mathias * 10.09.1862 Hf 13 + 10.10.1864 in Hf c) Anton * 13.11.1864 Hf 202 3210 GOKLER, Mathias Eltern siehe <3197> t 20.02.1835 in Hf 8 08.07.1861 in Hf HORVáTH (HORVáT), Susanna Berta Eltern siehe <4257> * 29.05.1841 in Hf Kind(er) a) Amalia * 02.01.1863 Hf 364 5589 KOCH, Johann * um. .1820 + 29.04.1863 in Hf 306 Bauer 8 03.02.1842 in Hf ROLLINGER, Anna Eltern siehe <9689> t 19.09.1822 in Hf Kind(er) a) Anna * 07.02.1843 Hf Ehe siehe <1999> b) Elisabeth * 28.12.1844 Hf Ehe siehe <3375> c) Johann t 06.10.1847 Hf d) Katharina t 15.12.1851 Hf e) Franz * 14.05.1854 Hnr 198 + 06.09.1854 in Hnr 198 f) Michael t 29.09.1855 Hf 198 g) Theresia * 10.03.1858 Hf 303 + 12.01.1931 in Hf h) Susanna * 12.03.1860 Hf 303 6260 KROPACSIR, Johann * um. .1836 8 ROLLINGER, Franziska t um. .1836 Kind(er) a) Aloys Wendelin * 20.10.1858 Hf 6838 LUFFI, Josef Eltern siehe <6832> t 05.09.1781 in Hf + 24.11.1827 in Hf 28 06.02.1803 in Hf weitere Ehe(n) <6837> <6839> ROLLINGER, Margaretha 1 um. .1781 + 02.06.1810 in Hf Kind(er) a) Elisabeth t 09.10.1809 Hf + 22.01.1810 in Hf 7596 MICHELS, Martin Eltern siehe <7544> t 20.06.1819 in Hf 8 16.08.1840 in Hf ROLLINGER, Katharina * um. .1822 Kind(er) a) Michael * 03.07.1841 Hf + 27.11.1841 in Hf b) Martin * 18.10.1842 Hf c) Theresia * 16.06.1844 Hf Ehe siehe <4156> d) Katharina t 03.04.1847 Hf + 21.08.1848 in Hf e) Martin t 16.05.1850 Hf f) Peter * 22.01.1852 Hf g) Johann * 24.05.1854 Hnr 314 h) Leopold t 30.07.1856 Hf 314 + 20.02.1859 in Hf 552 i) Katharina * 07.05.1858 Hf + 12.03.1861 in Hf 8144 NEIDENBACH, Peter Eltern siehe <8100> t 01.01.1820 in Hf 28 11.11.1845 in Hf weitere Ehe(n) <8143> ROLLINGER, Katharina Eltern siehe <9688> t 18.03.1820 in Hf Kind(er) a) Johann t 13.08.1846 Hf + 25.08.1846 in Hf b) Thomas t 23.07.1847 Hf c) Johann * um.12.1847 d) Nikolaus t 06.04.1849 Hf + 13.02.1872 in Hf e) Michael t 13.10.1851 Hf f) Katharina * 09.04.1854 Hnr 419 + 04.12.1854 in Hnr 419 g) Thomas t 28.10.1855 Hf 600 + 26.11.1857 in Hf 600 h) Barbara * 17.02.1861 Hf 8 9673 ROLLINGER, Johann * um. .1713 in Luxemburg + 27.11.1774 in Hf WK 71/26 Johannes Rollinger v.Linster/Lux. (Jung-Linster/ Dis.Grevenmacher) 8 ROLLINGER*, Elisabeth * um. .1721 in Lothringen + 03.03.1771 in Hf Kind(er) a) Magdalena * um. .1756 Ehe siehe <457> 9674 ROLLINGER, Susanna * um. .1720 im Trierischen + 17.01.1772 in Hf 9675 ROLLINGER, Katharina * um. .1735 + 07.06.1810 in Hf 9676 ROLLINGER, Johann um. .1745 + 18.10.1795 in Hf 8 08.06.1772 in Hf HEINZ, Margarethe weitere Ehe(n) <5908> um. .1752 + 12.01.1812 in Hf geh.als Maria Magdalene Kind(er) a) Anna Maria t 08.06.1779 Hf + 02.05.1781 in Hf b) Johann t 06.10.1781 Hf + 02.02.1854 in Hnr 145 8 2.Ehe siehe <9686> c) Christina t 11.07.1786 Hf Ehe siehe <11426> d) Sebastian t 17.01.1789 Hf Ehe siehe <9687> e) Susanna t 23.12.1790 Hf Ehe siehe <3869> f) Theresia t 23.12.1790 Hf g) Anna Maria t 25.05.1793 Hf + 06.05.1794 in Hf h) Katharina t 28.06.1795 Hf 9677 ROLLINGER, Johann * um. .1745 8 05.06.1770 in Hf GLASS, Elisabeth * um. .1750 9678 ROLLINGER, Michael * um. .1759 + 12.05.1833 in Hf 8 20.01.1812 in Hf GOKLER*, Magdalena Wwe. * um. .1792 erste Ehe unbekannt Kind(er) a) Theodor t 13.08.1816 Hf + 24.12.1816 in Hf 9679 ROLLINGER, Martin * um. .1763 + 04.04.1823 in Hf 8 06.02.1787 in Hf weitere Ehe(n) <9680> MEES, Anna Margaretha * um. .1769 + 23.02.1793 in Hf Kind(er) a) Magdalena t 03.07.1787 Hf + 03.07.1788 in Hf b) Johann t 20.12.1788 Hf c) Magdalena t 24.10.1790 Hf Ehe siehe <660> d) Katharina t 09.02.1793 Hf + 01.07.1794 in Hf 9680 ROLLINGER, Martin * um. .1763 + 04.04.1823 in Hf 28 16.04.1793 in Hf weitere Ehe(n) <9679> KANDlER, Anna Maria * um. .1773 Kind(er) 1) Johann t 17.04.1794 Hf + 10.12.1811 in Hf 2) Bernhard t 18.05.1796 Hf 3) Martin t 08.01.1798 Hf + 01.10.1831 in Hf Ehe siehe <9688> 4) Johann t 18.05.1800 Hf 5) Anna Maria t 17.09.1802 Hf + 10.07.1805 in Hf 6) Anna t 02.02.1804 Hf 7) Anna t 09.10.1805 Hf 8) Barbara t 27.09.1807 Hf 9) Nikolaus t 19.03.1810 Hf + 28.02.1811 in Hf 10) Johann t 21.12.1811 Hf + 10.01.1831 in Hf 11) Elisabeth t 31.03.1813 Hf 12) Franz t 01.08.1815 Hf + 21.03.1858 in Hf 461 Ehe siehe <9692> 9681 ROLLINGER, Mathias * um. .1766 + 19.08.1766 in HF 9682 ROLLINGER, Anna Margaretha * um. .1769 in Rosport,Grevenmacher + 23.02.1793 in Hf 9683 ROLLINGER, Anna M. Wwe. * um. .1769 + 29.07.1849 in Hf Ehe unbekannt 9684 ROLLINGER, Michael * um. .1769 8 ROLLINGER*, Magdalena * um. .1769 + 10.11.1839 in Hf 9685 ROLLINGER, Johann Eltern siehe <9676> t 06.10.1781 in Hf + 02.02.1854 in Hnr 145 Lehrer 8 weitere Ehe(n) <9686> MAUS, Maria Elisabeth Eltern siehe <7226> t um. .1788 + 26.11.1836 in Hf Kind(er) a) Johann t 15.12.1806 Hf + 12.02.1808 in Hf b) Franz t 07.01.1810 Hf 9686 ROLLINGER, Johann Eltern siehe <9676> t 06.10.1781 in Hf + 02.02.1854 in Hnr 145 Lehrer 28 21.02.1811 in Hf weitere Ehe(n) <9685> BECKER, Franziska * um. .1791 Kind(er) 1) Theresia t 23.02.1812 Hf Ehe siehe <12958> 2) Elisabeth t 27.06.1813 Hf Ehe siehe <13409> 3) Johann t 30.05.1815 Hf 4) Katharina t um. .1817 + 19.12.1848 in Schag Ehe siehe <1206> 5) Anton * um. .1819 Hf Ehe siehe <9351> 6) Sebastian * 25.02.1819 Hf + 03.03.1858 in Hf 374 Ehe siehe <9693> 7) Martin t 09.10.1820 Hf + 04.04.1821 in Hf 8) Martin t 05.12.1821 Hf 9) Johann t 02.04.1823 Hf + 24.02.1824 in Hf 10) Margaretha t 14.08.1826 Hf 11) Barbara t 15.10.1828 Hf 12) Genoveva t 16.03.1831 Hf 13) Anna Maria t 16.03.1831 Hf 14) Anna Maria t 19.11.1833 Hf 15) Nikolaus t 18.02.1835 Hf 9687 ROLLINGER, Sebastian Eltern siehe <9676> t 17.01.1789 in Hf 8 03.06.1821 in Hf WEGNER, Gertrud * um. .1801 Kind(er) a) Peter t 21.06.1820 Hf b) Johann t 21.06.1820 Hf + 28.08.1820 in Hf 9688 ROLLINGER, Martin Eltern siehe <9680> t 08.01.1798 in Hf + 01.10.1831 in Hf 8 25.05.1820 in Hf STRAKI, Elisabeth Eltern siehe <11757> weitere Ehe(n) <3779> t 18.12.1799 in Hf Kind(er) a) Katharina t 18.03.1820 Hf Ehe siehe <8144> b) Anna t 07.03.1823 Hf + 24.06.1825 in Hf c) Elisabeth t 16.04.1825 Hf Ehe siehe <1079> d) Peter t 11.05.1828 Hf + 29.05.1832 in Hf 9689 ROLLINGER, Johann * um. .1801 8 BREITENBACH, Elisabeth * um. .1803 Kind(er) a) Josef Rudolf Ernst t 30.01.1821 Hf b) Anna t 19.09.1822 Hf Ehe siehe <5589> c) Karl Josef t 03.11.1825 Hf + 05.04.1826 in Hf d) Josef Anton t 07.06.1827 Hf e) Anna Maria t 04.02.1832 Hf + 18.07.1832 in Hf 9690 ROLLINGER, Johann * um. .1804 8 ROLLINGER*, Theresia * um. .1806 Kind(er) a) Gertrud t 12.10.1824 Hf 9691 ROLLINGER, Elisabeth * um. .1811 + 29.09.1827 in Hf 9692 ROLLINGER, Franz Eltern siehe <9680> t 01.08.1815 in Hf + 21.03.1858 in Hf 461 Kleinhäusler 8 10.01.1837 in Hf MICHELS, Katharina Eltern siehe <7560> t 19.12.1815 in Hf Kind(er) a) Katharina t 10.03.1837 Hf Ehe siehe <198> b) Franz t 31.03.1839 Hf Ehe siehe <9700> c) Nikolaus * 08.10.1844 Hf d) Michael t 08.10.1844 Hf + 16.08.1849 in Hf e) Apollonia * um. .1847 + 04.10.1850 in Hf f) Anton t 04.01.1854 Hnr 461 + 10.12.1854 in Hnr 461 g) Heinrich t 04.01.1854 Hnr 463 h) Anton t 01.01.1856 Hf 468 9693 ROLLINGER, Sebastian Eltern siehe <9686> * 25.02.1819 in Hf + 03.03.1858 in Hf 374 Kleinhäusler 8 19.04.1841 in Hf BUCHHOLZ, Anna weitere Ehe(n) <980> * um. .1821 in Lenauheim Kind(er) 1) Sebastian * 23.10.1842 Hf + 09.06.1844 in Hf 2) Sebastian * 12.07.1844 Hf 3) Katharina t 05.08.1846 Hf + 30.07.1849 in Hf 4) Anna t 20.01.1849 Hf 5) Elisabeth * 10.04.1851 Hf + 11.05.1851 in Hf 6) Katharina t 26.04.1855 Hf 120 9694 ROLLINGER, Klara * um. .1820 in Ung.Betsche + 27.07.1820 in Hf 9695 ROLLINGER, Josef * um. .1821 + 14.06.1825 in Hf 9696 ROLLINGER, Simeon * um. .1823 + 28.03.1853 in Hnr 347 8 HARSCHL, Susanna * um. .1835 9697 ROLLINGER, Josef * um. .1828 8 22.02.1852 in Hf TULLITS, Wilhelmine um. .1830 Kind(er) a) Josef Georg Johann t 20.12.1852 Hnr 145 b) Georg Otto Ferdinand * 20.04.1854 Hnr 145 + 29.10.1877 in Hf c) Wilhelm Otto t 27.09.1855 Hf + 10.06.1856 in Hf 145 2/8 9698 ROLLINGER, Franziska um. .1830 Kind(er) a) Anna Theresia * 29.09.1860 Hf 324 9699 ROLLINGER, Franz * um. .1838 8 ROLLINGER*, Anna * um. .1839 Kind(er) a) Franz * 08.10.1860 Hf 336 + 12.10.1860 in Hf 336 9700 ROLLINGER, Franz Eltern siehe <9692> t 31.03.1839 in Hf 8 27.01.1861 in Hf STOFFEL, Elisabeth Eltern siehe <11696> t 08.07.1839 in Hf Kind(er) a) Michael * 01.07.1859 Hf b) Nikolaus * 27.11.1861 Hf 336 c) Elisabeth * 08.01.1864 Hf 336 d) Peter * 16.09.1866 Hf 335 10678 SCHRÖDER, Nikolaus * um. .1807 8 ROLLINGER, Christina * um. .1809 Kind(er) a) Peter t 23.04.1827 Hf 11211 SERVO, Michael Eltern siehe <11201> t 02.03.1809 in Hf 8 25.01.1829 in Hf weitere Ehe(n) <11212> ROLLINGER, Anna Maria * um. .1809 + 26.07.1849 in Hf Sterbealter 41 Jahre Kind(er) a) Katharina t 01.11.1829 Hf b) Josef t 22.01.1832 Hf + 24.06.1854 in Hnr 383 c) Anna t 03.06.1833 Hf Ehe siehe <10598> d) Anna * um. .1835 + 25.04.1858 in Hf 658 e) Mathias t 11.04.1838 Hf f) Aloys * 05.06.1842 Hf g) Martin t 13.03.1849 Hf + 01.08.1849 in Hf 11366 SPULER, Josef Eltern siehe <11357> t 10.12.1827 in Hf 8 07.11.1852 in Hf ROLLINGER, Apollonia * um. .1830 Kind(er) a) Katharina t 02.06.1853 Hnr 226 + 28.03.1940 in Hf b) Peter * 30.09.1854 Hnr 226 c) Anna t 03.10.1856 Hf 225 d) Magdale(na) * 19.06.1858 Hf 358 e) Margaretha * 17.03.1863 Hf 358 + 21.09.1933 in Hf f) Johann * 09.04.1865 Hf 358 + 26.11.1870 in Hf g) Franz * 05.03.1867 Hf 348 11412 STEIN, Johann Jakob * um. .1720 Nähers unbekannt 8 ROLLINGER, Susanna * 23.01.1723 in Hinzerath + 07.12.1786 in Hf Tochter d.Johann Rollinger-Angela Degen 11426 STEIN, Johann Nikolaus Eltern siehe <11415> t 14.12.1789 in Hf 8 01.06.1806 in Hf ROLLINGER, Christina Eltern siehe <9676> t 11.07.1786 in Hf Kind(er) a) Johann t 10.09.1812 Hf 8 2.Ehe siehe <11435> b) Franz t 15.01.1815 Hf + 24.01.1815 in Hf c) Franziska t 23.02.1816 Hf d) Katharina t 01.01.1819 Hf e) Martin t 10.09.1821 Hf + 27.01.1873 in Hf Ehe siehe <11440> f) Peter t 28.06.1824 Hf + 26.03.1825 in Hf g) Anna Maria t 22.02.1826 Hf + 13.03.1826 in Hf h) Anna t 31.05.1835 Hf Johann Rollinger was one of the earliest settlers of Landestreu, which was later annexed to Hatzfeld in 1766. 175 ANTON, Peter Eltern siehe <143> t 04.04.1812 in Hf 8 ROLLINGER, Anna Maria * um. .1814 Kind(er) a) Mathias * 22.01.1832 + 03.01.1866 in Hf 340 Ehe siehe <190> 198 ANTON, Johann Eltern siehe <167> t 10.07.1830 in Hf 8 22.01.1865 in Hf ROLLINGER, Katharina Eltern siehe <9692> t 10.03.1837 in Hf 457 BARTH, Johann * um. .1751 8 23.07.1776 in Hf ROLLINGER, Magdalena Eltern siehe <9673> * um. .1756 660 BEIL, Peter Eltern siehe <656> t 04.09.1788 in Hf + 25.01.1856 in Hf 407 28 30.05.1812 in Hf weitere Ehe(n) <659> ROLLINGER, Magdalena Eltern siehe <9679> t 24.10.1790 in Hf Kind(er) 1) Peter t 28.04.1813 Hf + 07.05.1813 in Hf 2) Magdalena t 28.04.1814 Hf 3) Franz t 04.06.1816 Hf Ehe siehe <666> 4) Katharina t 04.03.1818 Hf + 22.07.1862 in Hf 706 Ehe siehe <1974> 5) Martin t 01.04.1820 Hf + 04.09.1846 in Hf 6) Johann * um. .1825 Ehe siehe <668> 7) Judith t 28.04.1827 Hf + 19.07.1849 in Hf Ehe siehe <994> 8) Nikolaus t 04.10.1831 Hf Ehe siehe <670> 9) Anna Maria t 22.02.1834 Hf + 19.07.1849 in Hf 660 BEIL, Peter Eltern siehe <656> t 04.09.1788 in Hf + 25.01.1856 in Hf 407 28 30.05.1812 in Hf weitere Ehe(n) <659> ROLLINGER, Magdalena Eltern siehe <9679> t 24.10.1790 in Hf Kind(er) 1) Peter t 28.04.1813 Hf + 07.05.1813 in Hf 2) Magdalena t 28.04.1814 Hf 3) Franz t 04.06.1816 Hf Ehe siehe <666> 4) Katharina t 04.03.1818 Hf + 22.07.1862 in Hf 706 Ehe siehe <1974> 5) Martin t 01.04.1820 Hf + 04.09.1846 in Hf 6) Johann * um. .1825 Ehe siehe <668> 7) Judith t 28.04.1827 Hf + 19.07.1849 in Hf Ehe siehe <994> 8) Nikolaus t 04.10.1831 Hf Ehe siehe <670> 9) Anna Maria t 22.02.1834 Hf + 19.07.1849 in Hf 1079 BOHR, Kaspar * um. .1820 Bauer 8 28.01.1845 in Hf ROLLINGER, Elisabeth Eltern siehe <9688> t 16.04.1825 in Hf Kind(er) a) Anna f 31.12.1845 Hf b) Josef t 16.09.1847 Hf + 16.09.1851 in Hf c) Johann t 15.08.1849 Hf + 12.06.1878 in Hf d) Elisabeth t 26.10.1856 Hf 372 + 06.11.1856 in Hf There are also a few Horvath and Rollinger in the Zerne Familienbuch. Zerne was settled in the early 1800's. The Horvath in Zerne originate from Hatzfeld, Hetin, Tomsdorf, Parda, Ittebe, Sajan, Serb Zerne, Endre Major, Ruskodorf, Hungarian Zerne, Kis Rokus, Ottovesy, Mezlogyom, Toba, Ebendorf, Gross Kikinda, Nakodorf and Tschabe. And I have a great great grandmother Maria Horvath from Gottlob, who married Michael Kintsch of Gottlob and they lived in Serb Zerne. Happy Hunting! Fran Matkovich ----- Original Message - ---- From: davey1947@suddenlink.net To: BANAT@rootsweb.com ; Donauschwaben-villages@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 4:46 AM Subject: [BANAT-L] Brickwalls and hope in the DRE Hello List: I still have 3 brickwalls in my Genealogy, and I am hoping that someone will find these names in the village books that will be printed in the next few years or so. The Surnames are Rollinger, Horvath and Reimschneider (Riemschneider). To refresh the list's memory, Anna Rollinger was born somewhere in the 1830s (location not known at this point, married Lorenz Horvath in about 1856 and died in 1877. I have researched the microfilm for Ernsthausen and did not find her name there. Lorenz (Lorencz) Horvath was born about 1836, remarried Eva Lutz after Anna Rollinger died, Arrived in New York on the Ship Dresden on 21 Nov. 1893 coming from Bremen with his wife Eva and 3 daughters (Age 54). He died 6 April 1915 either in Mt. Angel or Gervais, Oregon. Anna Reimschneider (Riemschneider) was born about 5 March 1840, married Mathias Ehrenreich and they migrated to this country in 1897. They traveled on the Ship Bonn going from Bremen to Baltimore and arrived 2 December 1897. Anna was 56. they immediately went to Lincoln, IL. She died 24 February 1924 in Marshfield, Wood Co. Wisconsin. Supposedly both the Horvath and Ehrenreich families came from Josefsdorf, but most likely they were not born there. I looked at Dave Dreyer's Banat Ship list "Emigration from Banat in the National Archives Ship Records" to get the information on their arrival in the United States. I have found a lot of information in a website involiving research done by a Mr. Palanka. In that website, I found probably the whole list of cities that are in the Banat, which ones have family books, and which ones have websites. I am hoping that this website may help me more as well as the Donauschwaben Research Exchange. I thank the list for all their help in trying to knock down these brick walls. Sincerely, Dave Weinfurtner ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello List: I still have 3 brickwalls in my Genealogy, and I am hoping that someone will find these names in the village books that will be printed in the next few years or so. The Surnames are Rollinger, Horvath and Reimschneider (Riemschneider). To refresh the list's memory, Anna Rollinger was born somewhere in the 1830s (location not known at this point, married Lorenz Horvath in about 1856 and died in 1877. I have researched the microfilm for Ernsthausen and did not find her name there. Lorenz (Lorencz) Horvath was born about 1836, remarried Eva Lutz after Anna Rollinger died, Arrived in New York on the Ship Dresden on 21 Nov. 1893 coming from Bremen with his wife Eva and 3 daughters (Age 54). He died 6 April 1915 either in Mt. Angel or Gervais, Oregon. Anna Reimschneider (Riemschneider) was born about 5 March 1840, married Mathias Ehrenreich and they migrated to this country in 1897. They traveled on the Ship Bonn going from Bremen to Baltimore and arrived 2 December 1897. Anna was 56. they immediately went to Lincoln, IL. She died 24 February 1924 in Marshfield, Wood Co. Wisconsin. Supposedly both the Horvath and Ehrenreich families came from Josefsdorf, but most likely they were not born there. I looked at Dave Dreyer's Banat Ship list "Emigration from Banat in the National Archives Ship Records" to get the information on their arrival in the United States. I have found a lot of information in a website involiving research done by a Mr. Palanka. In that website, I found probably the whole list of cities that are in the Banat, which ones have family books, and which ones have websites. I am hoping that this website may help me more as well as the Donauschwaben Research Exchange. I thank the list for all their help in trying to knock down these brick walls. Sincerely, Dave Weinfurtner

Hoping that Anne and/or George still subscribe to the list. Would like to contact them about our common ancestors. Susan

Hello All, I would like to ask if there is anyone I have not been in contact with that is interested in the Ernsthausen Parish records? We've been working to identify where all the records are and hopefully have copies made of them. Marta Istvan has been able to copy the baptisms for Ernsthausen from May 1881 - May 1894 and would appreciate an email if anyone is interested in a copy of them. Thanks much, Amy Nichols -- "Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle."

Hello All, I would like to ask if there is anyone I have not been in contact with that is interested in the Ernsthausen Parish records? We've been working to identify where all the records are and hopefully have copies made of them. Marta Istvan has been able to copy the baptisms for Ernsthausen from May 1881 - May 1894 and would appreciate an email if anyone is interested in a copy of them. Thanks much, Amy Nichols

Hi Amy, Would you please add me to your list of people interested in Ernsthausen records. Thank you so much, Bobbie Schmidt In a message dated 10/11/2010 11:47:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, anichols@att.net writes: Hello All, I would like to ask if there is anyone I have not been in contact with that is interested in the Ernsthausen Parish records? We've been working to identify where all the records are and hopefully have copies made of them. Marta Istvan has been able to copy the baptisms for Ernsthausen from May 1881 - May 1894 and would appreciate it if anyone is interested in copies of these records. Thanks much, Amy Nichols PS.I have sent an email to all those who have expressed interested previously. ------------------------------------- Ehebuch(-buecher) . marriage register. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DONAUSCHWABEN-VILLAGES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello All, I would like to ask if there is anyone I have not been in contact with that is interested in the Ernsthausen Parish records? We've been working to identify where all the records are and hopefully have copies made of them. Marta Istvan has been able to copy the baptisms for Ernsthausen from May 1881 - May 1894 and would appreciate it if anyone is interested in copies of these records. Thanks much, Amy Nichols PS.I have sent an email to all those who have expressed interested previously.

>From the Hessen-L by Andreas Meininger: Published Name charts in the 'Hessische Familienkunde', starting with the Band 12 (1974/75), Spalte 443 ff.; Band 13 (1976/77), Spalte 87 ff. and Band 18, Sp. 33 ff by Johannes Götz and Jürgen H. Frickel about the "Gründau Court District" - the areas of former Reichs-Gerichts Gründau: Niedergründau (with the church on the Berg), Rothenbergen, Lieblos (including the Neue Herberge and the Kinzigmühle), Roth, Mittelgründau zu den Buchen und Gettenbach. Included are the following charts of the Family names: Die Familie Faß 1617-1735 in Bd. 12, Sp. 444 - 447 Die Familie Lauten(-r)bach 1634-1735 in Bd. 12, Sp. 447 - 450 Die Familie Lerch 1601-1735 in Bd. 12, Sp. 450 - 454 Die Familie Gambach 1677-1735 in Bd. 12, Sp. 491 - 492 Die Familie Grasmück 1673-1735 in Bd. 12, Sp. 492 - 493 Die Familie Heeg 1670 -1735 in Bd. 12, Sp. 493 - 494 Die Familie Hummel aus Tirol 1668 -1735 in Bd. 12, Sp. 494 Die Familie ImHof 1615 -1735 in Bd. 12, Sp. 494 - 496 Die Familie Kauffeld 1680 -1735 in Bd. 12, Sp. 496 Die Familie Keller aus der Schweiz 1666 -1735 in Bd. 12, Sp. 496 Die Familie Lauter 1610 -1735 in Bd. 12, Sp. 496 - 497 Die Familie Michelmann 1683 -1735 in Bd. 12, Sp. 498 Die Familie Mohn 1597 -1735 in Bd. 12, Sp. 498 - 500 Die Familie Götz 1656 -1735 in Bd. 13, Sp. 87 - 89 Die Familie Iserloh 1687 -1735 in Bd. 13, Sp. 89 - 90 Die Familie Meininger 1616 -1735 in Bd. 13, Sp. 90 - 92 Die Familie Reber 1634 -1736 in Bd. 13, Sp. 92 - 93 Die Familie Rippert 1638 -1735 in Bd. 13, Sp. 93 Die Familie Schmidt from Tirol 1673 -1735 in Bd. 13, Sp. 93 - 94 Die Familie Schnittger 1677 -1735 in Bd. 13, Sp. 94 Die Familie Schuchart 1676 -1735 in Bd. 13, Sp. 94 - 95 Die Familie Trinkel 1669 -1735 in Bd. 13, Sp. 95 - 96 Die Familie Wolke 1652 -1730 in Bd. 13, Sp. 96 Die Familie Boller 1633 -1735 in Bd. 13, Sp. 318 - 320 Die Familie Brem 1677 -1735 in Bd. 13, Sp. 320 Die Familie Brunner from Switzerland 1668 -1735 in Bd. 13, Sp. 320 - 321 Die Familie Croll 1642 -1735 in Bd. 13, Sp. 321 Die Familie Clostermann 1616 -1735 in Bd. 13, Sp. 321 - 322 Die Familie Engel 1650 -1735 in Bd. 13, Sp. 322 - 323 Die Familie Joh 1646 -1735 in Bd. 13, Sp. 323 - 324 Die Familie Schreiber 1602 -1735 in Bd. 13, Sp. 324 - 325 Die Familie Stumpf 1601 -1735 in Bd. 13, Sp. 325 - 328 Die Familie Früh 1669 -1725 in Bd. 18, Sp. 33 - 34 Die Familie Günther (I) (in Roth) 1603 -1735 in Bd. 18, Sp. 34 - 37 Die Familie Günther (II) (in Mittelgründau) 1680 -1735 in Bd. 18, Sp. 37 -38 Die Familie Kindermann 1690 -1735 in Bd. 18, Sp. 38 - 39 Die Familie Knoth 1645 -1735 in Bd. 18, Sp. 39 Die Familie Köhler (I) from Hofgeismar 1647 -1735 in Bd. 18, Sp. 40 - 41 Die Familie Köhler (II) from Hüttengesäß 1606 -1735 in Bd. 18, Sp. 42 Die Familie Köhler (III) from Kempfenbrunn 1692 -1735 in Bd. 18, Sp. 42 - 43 Die Familie Loos 1610 -1735 in Bd. 18, Sp. 43 - 44 Die Familie Paul 1633 -1735 in Bd. 18, Sp. 44 - 45 Die Familie Schleucher 1610 -1735 in Bd. 18, Sp. 45 - 50 Die Familie Daubert 1698 -1735 in Bd. 18, Sp. 347 - 349 Die Familie Dietrich 1680 -1735 in Bd. 18, Sp. 349 - 350 Die Familie Geßner 1694 -1735 in Bd. 18, Sp. 350 - 351 Die Familie Ost 1704 -1735 in Bd. 18, Sp. 351 Die Familie Ott 1650 -1735 in Bd. 18, Sp. 351 - 352 Die Familie Prinz 1658 -1735 in Bd. 18, Sp. 353 Die Familie Rapp 1673 -1735 in Bd. 18, Sp. 353 - 354 Die Familie Schuster 1677 -1735 in Bd. 18, Sp. 354 - 356 Die Families alphabetically: Boller, Brem, Brunner, Clostermann, Croll, Daubert, Dietrich, Engel, Faß, Früh, Gambach, Geßner,Götz, Grasmück, Günther, Heeg, Hummel, ImHof, Iserloh, Joh, Kauffeld, Keller, Kindermann, Knoth, Köhler, Lauten(-r)bach, Lauter, Lerch, Loos, Meininger, Michelmann, Mohn, Ost, Ott, Paul, Prinz, Rapp, Reber, Rippert, Schleucher, Schmidt, Schnittger, Schreiber, Schuchart, Schuster, Stumpf, Trinkel, Wolke

Dear List, in the article about the Josefsdorfer Heimattreffen, 1985 in Augsburg, was reported that Mr. Josef Köllmel from America was there. (Banater Post from o5. August 1985, page 11-12). At that time he was in age of a pensioner. He emigrated to North America before Second World War. But in the Heimatbuch Josefsdorf, 1986 from Hans Klein, he was not his listed in the address-list. In the area of Castor in Canada also some Josefsdorfer homesteaded. Has anyone an idea where Mr. Josef Köllmel lived or what the last informations about him existed? Thank you very much to all for any help. Werner Weissmüller _____ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter <http://www.spamfighter.com/len> . SPAMfighter has removed 4775 of my spam emails to date. Do you have a slow PC? <http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen> Try free scan!

I don't know what is wrong ?! I will give it another try -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Jakob Huegel born around 1735 in Martinshoehe married abour 1765 NN Anna Maria bonr around 1745 somewhere in Palatina > > children: Elisabeth born about 1767 in Schönau died 15.7.1770 in Grabatz Elisabeth born 8.9.1771 in Grabatz Rosina born 20.1.1773 in Grabatz Franz born 14.2.1775 in Grabatz Bernhard 9.4.1777 in Grabatz + 16.4.1777 in Grabatz Kaspar 19.3.1778 in Grabatz 20.4.1838 Zichydorf oo 1796 Anna Szar-Maly Wendelin 20.10.1781 in Grabatz Nikolaus 4.3.1786 in Grabatz Anni -- GRATIS! Movie-FLAT mit über 300 Videos. Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome

Sorry, I pressed the wrong button, I will continue in the text: -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Jakob Huegel born around 1735 in Martinshoehe > married abour 1765 > NN Anna Maria bonr around 1745 somewhere in Palatina > children: > Elisabeth born about 1767 in Schönau died 15.7.1770 in Grabatz > Elisabeth born 8.9.1771 in Grabatz > Rosina born 20.1.1773 in Grabatz > Franz born 14.2.1775 in Grabatz Bernhard > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > > Datum: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 17:31:03 EDT > > Von: JS8237@aol.com > > An: genealogy@banat.ro > > CC: banat-l@rootsweb.com > > Betreff: Re: [BANAT-L] [GenRoG] --Luck-up in Grabatz Familienbuch > > > Would someone be kind enough to look up the following in the Grabatz > > Familienbuch > > Jakob Hugel and his wife Anna Maria, if they are in the book. Their > first > > child's name was Elizabeth Hugel born in 1767. Maybe in Gajdobra, > Backa. > > Their second child had the same name and was born 9-8-1771 and probably > > baptized in Zichydorf. > > I do not know their birthdates, their marriage date, or their date of > > death. > > All together they had 8 children > > > > > > Thank you for your help. > > Jozef Svetlik > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message > > -- > GMX DSL Doppel-Flat ab 19,99 &euro;/mtl.! Jetzt auch mit > gratis Notebook-Flat! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message -- Ihr GMX Postfach immer dabei: die kostenlose GMX Mail App für Android. Komfortabel, sicher und schnell: www.gmx.de/android

Jakob Huegel born around 1735 in Martinshoehe married abour 1765 NN Anna Maria bonr around 1745 somewhere in Palatina children: Elisabeth born about 1767 in Schönau died 15.7.1770 in Grabatz Elisabeth born 8.9.1771 in Grabatz Rosina born 20.1.1773 in Grabatz Franz -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 17:31:03 EDT > Von: JS8237@aol.com > An: genealogy@banat.ro > CC: banat-l@rootsweb.com > Betreff: Re: [BANAT-L] [GenRoG] --Luck-up in Grabatz Familienbuch > Would someone be kind enough to look up the following in the Grabatz > Familienbuch > Jakob Hugel and his wife Anna Maria, if they are in the book. Their first > child's name was Elizabeth Hugel born in 1767. Maybe in Gajdobra, Backa. > Their second child had the same name and was born 9-8-1771 and probably > baptized in Zichydorf. > I do not know their birthdates, their marriage date, or their date of > death. > All together they had 8 children > > > Thank you for your help. > Jozef Svetlik > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message -- GMX DSL Doppel-Flat ab 19,99 &euro;/mtl.! Jetzt auch mit gratis Notebook-Flat! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl

Anna, Sorry I duplicated your transcription; I did not see your reply until after I sent one, too. My apologies for the duplication. Dolores Jungheim Barber On Oct 10, 2010, at 6:20 PM, Anna Lorenz wrote: > I don't know what is wrong ?! > I will give it another try > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Jakob Huegel born around 1735 in Martinshoehe > married abour 1765 > NN Anna Maria bonr around 1745 somewhere in Palatina >>> children: > Elisabeth born about 1767 in Schönau died 15.7.1770 in Grabatz > Elisabeth born 8.9.1771 in Grabatz > Rosina born 20.1.1773 in Grabatz > Franz born 14.2.1775 in Grabatz > Bernhard 9.4.1777 in Grabatz + 16.4.1777 in > Grabatz > Kaspar 19.3.1778 in Grabatz 20.4.1838 Zichydorf > oo 1796 Anna Szar-Maly > Wendelin 20.10.1781 in Grabatz > Nikolaus 4.3.1786 in Grabatz > > > Anni > -- > GRATIS! Movie-FLAT mit über 300 Videos. > Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Jozef, From Alfred Ivanov's Grabatz Familienbuch: --------------------------------------------------------- 2294 Hu[umlaut]gel Jakob * um 1735 Martinsho[umlaut]he oo um 1865 N.N. Maria Anna * um 1745 Pfalz 1. Elisabeth * um 1767 Scho[umlaut]nau + 15.07.1770 Grabatz 2. Elisabeth *08.09.1771 Grabatz 3. Rosina *20.01.1773 Grabatz 4. Franz *14.02.1775 Grabatz 5. Bernhard * 04.04.1777 +16.04.1777 Grabatz 6. Kaspar * 19.03.1778 Grabatz +20.04.1838 Zichydorf oo um 1796 MALY Anna (*Szar) 7. Wendelin *20.10.1781 Grabatz 8. Nikolaus *04.03.1786 Grabatz Paten: 2. Peter Bo[umlaut]hm, Elisabeth Inn; 3. Andreas Fritz, Rosina Gartner; 4. Franz Peter Kraus, Anna Trabnel; 5. Bernhard Wetzel, Eva Kraus; 6. Kaspar Straubinger, Katharina; 7. Johann Rochus Heffele, Eva Hohenberger; 8. Nikolaus Wilhelm, Theresia -------------------------------------------------------------- Hope this helps. Dolores Jungheim Barber On Oct 10, 2010, at 4:31 PM, JS8237@aol.com wrote: > Would someone be kind enough to look up the following in the Grabatz > Familienbuch > Jakob Hugel and his wife Anna Maria, if they are in the book. Their > first > child's name was Elizabeth Hugel born in 1767. Maybe in Gajdobra, > Backa. > Their second child had the same name and was born 9-8-1771 and > probably > baptized in Zichydorf. > I do not know their birthdates, their marriage date, or their date of > death. > All together they had 8 children > > > Thank you for your help. > Jozef Svetlik > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Would someone be kind enough to look up the following in the Grabatz Familienbuch Jakob Hugel and his wife Anna Maria, if they are in the book. Their first child's name was Elizabeth Hugel born in 1767. Maybe in Gajdobra, Backa. Their second child had the same name and was born 9-8-1771 and probably baptized in Zichydorf. I do not know their birthdates, their marriage date, or their date of death. All together they had 8 children Thank you for your help. Jozef Svetlik

Many, many thanks to all listers who responded to my search for the name of the church in Lovrin. This is the church where my mother and her sister, Anna were Baptized. One of Anna's grandchildren actually used "Lovrin" as middle name for his daughter! So much, does this family want to keep the memory of their heritage alive. Another grand- daughter is having the photo of the church blown-up and will give it to each of her siblings (with the name on the bottom) as a Christmas gift this year. I am sure the curiosity of the name "Emily Lovrin" Rice, along with the picture will keep the memory of the Banat alive for many generations. Anne from Phila.