P.S. I neglected to give the town where my grandmother was born. She was born to Susanna Haas around 1889 in Ruskodorf. Thank you, Joan Denton ________________________________ From: Joan Denton <denton_joan@yahoo.com> To: BANAT-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, October 29, 2010 12:47:01 PM Subject: Letang Hello, My grandparents immigrated to the United States from the Banat area. I have been able to get a lot of family background from my mother's cousin, but here is one piece of info I cannot retrieve. My grandmother, Katerina Letang Nothof, was born to Susanna Haas in 1889. No father's name was given, but my grandmother's maiden name was Letang. No one in the family ever spoke of who her father was, so it might be impossible to locate a first name or the Letang family who had lived in that area at that time. My grandmother died at a very early age in March of 1937. I was just a very young girl at that time. My grandmother married Anton Nothof who I believe was also from that area. Foolishly, I never asked him anything about my grandmother's family. No one ever wanted to talk about their life in Europe. My grandfather would tell me, "That's all in the past. Look forward." My cousin told me to contact your web site to request if anyone knew anything about the Letangs in the late 1880's. I would appreciate this very much My cousin told me to subscribe to your website. How do I do this. Thank you for your help. Joan Denton Omaha, Nebraska U.S.A.
Hello, My grandparents immigrated to the United States from the Banat area. I have been able to get a lot of family background from my mother's cousin, but here is one piece of info I cannot retrieve. My grandmother, Katerina Letang Nothof, was born to Susanna Haas in 1889. No father's name was given, but my grandmother's maiden name was Letang. No one in the family ever spoke of who her father was, so it might be impossible to locate a first name or the Letang family who had lived in that area at that time. My grandmother died at a very early age in March of 1937. I was just a very young girl at that time. My grandmother married Anton Nothof who I believe was also from that area. Foolishly, I never asked him anything about my grandmother's family. No one ever wanted to talk about their life in Europe. My grandfather would tell me, "That's all in the past. Look forward." My cousin told me to contact your web site to request if anyone knew anything about the Letangs in the late 1880's. I would appreciate this very much My cousin told me to subscribe to your website. How do I do this. Thank you for your help. Joan Denton Omaha, Nebraska U.S.A.
hi couls someone have a look in the fb Lovrin Looking for ANNA family thanks Charles Envoyé depuis Ma Messagerie SFR. 10 Go de stockage - en savoir plus.
Charles; What exactly do you want to know? The first entries are; Anna(ONHA), Johann Adam ex Willingen, Kr Bolchen oo NN A M WK 13 Jul 1784 7 persons ex Niedergailbach/Zweibrucken Anna, Johann oo 21 Nov 1897 Katoli Elisabeth two daughters born in Lowrin Anna Andreas oo 21 Nov 1800 Khun(sic) Margareta ll kids born in Lowrin Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "charles amann" <charles.amann@sfr.fr> To: "banat" <banat@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 7:22 AM Subject: [BANAT-L] lovrin > > hi > couls someone have a look in the fb Lovrin > > > Looking for ANNA family > > > thanks > Charles > > > > Envoyé depuis Ma Messagerie SFR. 10 Go de stockage - en savoir plus. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
Karen, Georg Schultz was Roman Catholic. In our family there are no Jewish. Its possible he maried and chanched the religion. Best wishes, André -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: "Karen Dalton Preston" <Karen@golden-hills.com> Gesendet: 26.10.2010 20:04:06 An: "Robert Evensen" <revensen@comcast.net> Betreff: Re: [BANAT-L] Suche nach Georg Schultz, Ausgewandert ca. 1950 bis 1957 in die USA. >André and Robert, > >Do we know if the Schultz family was Jewish? > >The one thing that jumped out of the obituary is "Shiva to be held . . . " I think that indicates the Selma Schultz was Jewish. > >--Karen >On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:54 AM, Robert Evensen wrote: > >> André, >> >> I cannot be absolutely sure, but I believe this is the obituary for the >> widow of George Schultz. >> >> Schultz, Selma: Newspaper Obituary and Death Notice >> South Florida Sun-Sentinel (Fort Lauderdale, FL) - August 19, 2003 >> Deceased Name: Schultz, Selma >> Schultz, Selma, 87, died August 17, 2003 af! ter a brief illness. Devoted wife >> to the late George Schultz. Mother of Ira (Patricia) of Silver Spring, MD. >> Grandmother of David and Amy. Graveside Services to be held Tuesday, August >> 19, 2003, 10 AM Star of David Cemetery, N. Lauderdale, FL. Shiva to be held >> August 19, 2003, 5-7 PM at Forest Trace Apartments in Lauderhill. >> Edition: Broward Metro >> >> >> >> I believe it is so, as both were living together in 1984 in Pompano Beach. >> I cannot find another George Schultz at this time there. I may be wrong, >> but again the funeral home may list her as the widow. Then you would have >> proof. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Robert Evensen >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ___________________________________________________________ WEB.DE DSL Doppel-Flat ab 19,99 €/mtl.! Jetzt auch mit gratis Notebook-Flat! http://produkte.web.de/go/DSL_Doppel_Flatrate/2
Robert and Dave, I will chek it. This is a good information. Give me two weeks. In Germany, Bremen i look at the moment for the ship. André ----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: "Robert Evensen" Gesendet: 26.10.2010 19:54:12 An: "Dave Dreyer" , "André Schultz" Betreff: Re: [BANAT-L] Suche nach Georg Schultz,Ausgewandert ca. 1950 bis 1957 in die USA. >André, > >I cannot be absolutely sure, but I believe this is the obituary for the >widow of George Schultz. > >Schultz, Selma: Newspaper Obituary and Death Notice >South Florida Sun-Sentinel (Fort Lauderdale, FL) - August 19, 2003 >Deceased Name: Schultz, Selma >Schultz, Selma, 87, died August 17, 2003 after a brief illness. Devoted wife >to the late George Schultz. Mother of Ira (Patricia) of Silver Spring, MD. >Grandmother of David and Amy. Graveside Services to be held Tuesday, August >19, 2003, 10 AM Star of David Cemetery, N. Lauderdale, FL. Shiva to be held >August 19, 2003, 5-7 PM at Forest Trace Apartments in Lauderhill. >Edition: Broward Metro > > > >I believe it is so, as both were living together in 1984 in Pompano Beach. >I cannot find another George Schultz at this time there. I may be wrong, >but again the funeral home may list her as the widow. Then you would have >proof. > >Best wishes, > >Robert Evensen > ___________________________________________________________ GRATIS! Movie-FLAT mit über 300 Videos. Jetzt freischalten unter http://movieflat.web.de
Amy; Please see below; ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amy Nichols" <absn15@gmail.com> To: <BANAT@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 8:07 AM Subject: [BANAT-L] Neuburg an der Bega (Ujwar) - Horvath, Heinrich, Urban,and Klemens Hello, I was wondering if anyone might have the Neuburg an der Bega (Ujwar) Familienbuch by Josef Kuhn and be willing to look up a few couples for me? There are a few couples in the Gross Gaj records that are listed as originating from the village of Ujvar: 1. *Paul Urban (b. abt 1816) and Rosalia Szemer*. They had at least two sons: Nikolaus (b. abt 1846) and Paul (b. abt 1844) that should up in the Gross Gaj records. FAMILY #1317 2. *Wendel Heinrich and Katharna Grossman*. They had the following children that show up in GG records: Peter (*22 NOV 1830), Elisabeth (NO ELISABETH), Stefan (*6 OCT 1838), and, I think, Nikolaus (NO NIKOLAUS). THIS FAMILY IS IN THE BOOK UNDER WENDEL HEINRICH AND KATHARINA GROSS WITH TWELVE KIDS AND A SECOND MARRIAGE OF THE WIDOW TO JOSEF WIESINGER THERE IS A SEPARATE FAMILY HEINRICH NIKOLAUS *1827 oo SZEMER MARGRAET, DAU OF JOHANN SCHEMER AND BARBARA BAMBALICH *28 JAN 1827 ELISABETH *10 OCT 1848 *Johann Klemens (b. abt 1821) and Clara Semer* NO IN THE BOOK 3. *Horvaths* – The families above were somehow connected with the Horvaths that lived in KrivaBara (Ujfalu) and I am hoping that the connection may have begun in Ujvar. If there is any records of any Horvaths in the book, I would very much appreciate it. Specifically I would be looking for the family of Josef Horvath (b, abt 1817) and Elisabeth Heck or Jakob Horvath (b. 1812 in Grabatz) and Elisabeth Tanbrier (Tanguay). NO HORVATHS IN THE BOOK Thank you so much! I would appreciate any assistance with this! I did see that the book is out of print, so I’m hoping that there might be someone on the list who might have a copy. Amy Nichols -- "Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle." ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Andre, I found three George Schultzes in Pompano Beach Florida. Your George Schultz lived in LIGHTHOUSE POINT, FL POMPANO BEACH, FL FLUSHING, NY. His wife, who was about the same age as he was, was named SCHULTZ, HEDWIG BARBARA. He might also be related to a Clara Schultz who was born about 20 years before him. There was also a George Schultz who was married to Selma, but that George Schultz was 10 years older than your George and did not have any links to NY as far as I can determine. Flushing is in the borough of Queens in the city of NY. I hope this helps. Sincerely, Cathy Teufel O'Neill in NYC
André, You might try contacting the funeral home who handled his burial. See below: Schultz, George: Newspaper Obituary and Death Notice Miami Herald, The (FL) - March 8, 1990 Deceased Name: Schultz, George Schultz, George, POMPANO BEACH, died Wednesday. Kraeer Pompano Beach Funeral Home. http://www.kraeerfuneralhome.com/dm20/en_US/group/business/kraeerfuneralhome/index.page They may be able to give you more information on next of kin. Hope this helps. Robert Evensen
André, I cannot be absolutely sure, but I believe this is the obituary for the widow of George Schultz. Schultz, Selma: Newspaper Obituary and Death Notice South Florida Sun-Sentinel (Fort Lauderdale, FL) - August 19, 2003 Deceased Name: Schultz, Selma Schultz, Selma, 87, died August 17, 2003 after a brief illness. Devoted wife to the late George Schultz. Mother of Ira (Patricia) of Silver Spring, MD. Grandmother of David and Amy. Graveside Services to be held Tuesday, August 19, 2003, 10 AM Star of David Cemetery, N. Lauderdale, FL. Shiva to be held August 19, 2003, 5-7 PM at Forest Trace Apartments in Lauderhill. Edition: Broward Metro I believe it is so, as both were living together in 1984 in Pompano Beach. I cannot find another George Schultz at this time there. I may be wrong, but again the funeral home may list her as the widow. Then you would have proof. Best wishes, Robert Evensen
Hello, I was wondering if anyone might have the Neuburg an der Bega (Ujwar) Familienbuch by Josef Kuhn and be willing to look up a few couples for me? There are a few couples in the Gross Gaj records that are listed as originating from the village of Ujvar: 1. *Paul Urban (b. abt 1816) and Rosalia Szemer*. They had at least two sons: Nikolaus (b. abt 1846) and Paul (b. abt 1844) that should up in the Gross Gaj records. 2. *Wendel Heinrich and Katharna Grossman*. They had the following children that show up in GG records: Peter (b. 1bt 1830), Elisabeth (b. abt 1837), Stefan (b. abt. 1838), and, I think, Nikolaus (b ?). *Johann Klemens (b. abt 1821) and Clara Semer* 3. *Horvaths* – The families above were somehow connected with the Horvaths that lived in KrivaBara (Ujfalu) and I am hoping that the connection may have begun in Ujvar. If there is any records of any Horvaths in the book, I would very much appreciate it. Specifically I would be looking for the family of Josef Horvath (b, abt 1817) and Elisabeth Heck or Jakob Horvath (b. 1812 in Grabatz) and Elisabeth Tanbrier (Tanguay). Thank you so much! I would appreciate any assistance with this! I did see that the book is out of print, so I’m hoping that there might be someone on the list who might have a copy. Amy Nichols -- "Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle."
André and Robert, Do we know if the Schultz family was Jewish? The one thing that jumped out of the obituary is "Shiva to be held . . . " I think that indicates the Selma Schultz was Jewish. --Karen On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:54 AM, Robert Evensen wrote: > André, > > I cannot be absolutely sure, but I believe this is the obituary for the > widow of George Schultz. > > Schultz, Selma: Newspaper Obituary and Death Notice > South Florida Sun-Sentinel (Fort Lauderdale, FL) - August 19, 2003 > Deceased Name: Schultz, Selma > Schultz, Selma, 87, died August 17, 2003 after a brief illness. Devoted wife > to the late George Schultz. Mother of Ira (Patricia) of Silver Spring, MD. > Grandmother of David and Amy. Graveside Services to be held Tuesday, August > 19, 2003, 10 AM Star of David Cemetery, N. Lauderdale, FL. Shiva to be held > August 19, 2003, 5-7 PM at Forest Trace Apartments in Lauderhill. > Edition: Broward Metro > > > > I believe it is so, as both were living together in 1984 in Pompano Beach. > I cannot find another George Schultz at this time there. I may be wrong, > but again the funeral home may list her as the widow. Then you would have > proof. > > Best wishes, > > Robert Evensen > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Andre; Before moving to Florida I suspect that Georg Schultz lived somewhere in New York. We have searched several on-line obituary databases for him without success. Normally in such a case one would search the on-line telephone books for relatives. But it is not practical in this case because Schultz is such a common surname. You can go to a on-line telephone directory like "Switchboard" and see if you find anything which is promising. I am sorry we can not be of more help. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: " André Schultz " <schultz.andre1@web.de> To: "Dave Dreyer" <ddreyer@pacbell.net> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 1:21 PM Subject: Re: Suche nach Georg Schultz, Ausgewandert ca. 1950 bis 1957 in die USA. Dear Dave, thank you for this quick answer. Is it possible to find out whether he has a family and children during his live? Is it possible to find in a council where he lived? Many regards André -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: "Dave Dreyer" Gesendet: 22.10.2010 04:58:25 An: "André Schultz" Betreff: Re: Suche nach Georg Schultz, Ausgewandert ca. 1950 bis 1957 in die USA. >Andre >I am not able to identify Georg Schultz in the passenger ship records. >However, I do find him in the Social Security Death Index. Thee is no >doubt >this is the correct Georg Schultz since it also has his birth date. >Georg Schultz was registered with Social Security sometime between >1954-1956 >in New York. He died 7 Mar 1990 living at Pompano Beach, Florida 33062. >He probably moved to Florida when he retired. >Dave Dreyer > >----- Original Message ----- >From: " André Schultz " >To: >Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 10:49 AM >Subject: Suche nach Georg Schultz, Ausgewandert ca. 1950 bis 1957 in die >USA. > > >Sehr geehrter Herr Dreyer, > >konnte heute kurz mit Ihnen bei den Ahnenforschern im Haus der >Donauschwaben >in Sindelfingen >sprechen. > >Ich suche nach einem Verwandten, Geog Schultz, Geboren ca, 2.11.1921 in >Báthaszék in Ungarn. >Ausgewiesen 1948 nach Deutschland. >Ausgewandert in die USA ca. 1950 bis 1957. > >Haben Sie da eine Möglichkeit oder eine Adresse, etwas heraus zu bekommen? > >Georg Schultz lebt vermutlich nicht mehr. Er könnte aber Kinder haben. > > >Haben Sie einen Punkt, bei dem ich Ihnen weiter helfen kann? > >Über eine Antwort würde ich mich freuen. > >André Schultz >Schliffkopfweg - 4 >71106 Magstadt >___________________________________________________________ >WEB.DE DSL Doppel-Flat ab 19,99 €/mtl.! Jetzt auch mit >gratis Notebook-Flat! http://produkte.web.de/go/DSL_Doppel_Flatrate/2 > > ___________________________________________________________ WEB.DE DSL Doppel-Flat ab 19,99 €/mtl.! Jetzt auch mit gratis Notebook-Flat! http://produkte.web.de/go/DSL_Doppel_Flatrate/2
Familienbuch der katholischen Pfarrgemeinde MERCYDORF im Banat mit den Filialen Baratzhausen, Hodony und Schadan, Einträge aus Neu-Beschenowa und Sankt Andreas 1737/1734-1832/1843 von Karl Benz und Edgar Aldag (Teil 1), hrsg. v. Arbeitskreis donauschwäbischer Familienforscher (AKdFF), Sindelfingen 2010. Schriftenreihe zur donauschwäbischen Herkunftsforschung Band 167, Deutsche Ortssippenbücher Band B 495 Zentralstelle für Personen- und Familiengeschichte D 60509 Frankfurt am Main. Hardcover mit Golddruck, 640 Seiten, + 2 Landkarten, Ortslageplan, Farbfoto der Kirche, Preis 50 € (zzgl. Porto). Bezug: Arbeitskreis donauschwäbischer Familienforscher e.V. (AKdFF), Goldmühlestr. 30, 71065 Sindelfingen Tel. 07031-79376-37, E-Mail: akdff@haus-donauschwaben.de Inhalt: Vorwort des Herausgebers (Dr. Günter Junkers, Arbeitskreis donauschwäbischer Familienforscher), Vorwort des Autors, Karl Benz, Die Gemeinde Mercydorf, Bianka Berger, Vorsitzende der HOG Mercydorf, Ortsplan, Skizze mit Straßennamen, Erläuterungen zum Gebrauch des Familienbuches, Verzeichnis der verwendeten Abkürzungen, Quellen und Literaturverzeichnis, 2 Kartenbeilagen. Die 2982 Familien der Pfarrei in alphabetischer Reihenfolge, Index der eingeheirateten Frauen in alphabetischer Folge der Namen mit weiterführenden Hinweisen zu den Ehemännern und Familiennummern (29 Seiten), Liste der unbekannten Familiennamen (NN) der Frauen mit Hinweisen zu den Ehemännern und Familiennummern (7 Seiten), Ortsindex mit Benennungen in verschiedenen Sprachen (13 Seiten), Schriftenreihe zur donauschwäbischen Familiengeschichtsforschung mit Hinweisen auf Bezug und Preis. Das Familienbuch Mercydorf schließt eine Lücke in der Banater Familienforschung. Als Ergebnis einer gediegenen Arbeit ist es empfehlenswert. Zu beachten: der Autor Karl Benz arbeitet an Teil 2, der die Fortsetzung enthalten wird. Nikolaus Horn
This is my annual rearch for ANYTHING related to this surname.... from Arad area. anyone ever run across this surname?? Jim
Thank you so much Karen for the info. My Nicholas also married a Franciska Mellinger so Franz must be my guy. Judy Wasness
Antal/Dianoczki look up in Temesvar/Timisoara, please. My grandparents, Etel Antal and Janos Angner were married at the Millennium Roman Catholic Church November 26 1911. His parents were Matyas Angner and Terez Lambrecht. Janos was born June 4 1884 in Stefansfeld. At time of marriage family lived in Temesvar at Franzstadt District Torok Str.4 Etel Antal is/was the daughter of Andras Antal and Maria Dianoczki(?). Etel was born November 25, 1891 in Peterrev(?). At time of marriage family lived in Temesvar at Fabriker District, Barany Str.2 Their marriage is recorded on page 59 of 1911 in November at the Millennium Church. So where I may not have the exact spelling correct due to translation it could be looked at by someone who reads Hungarian. This would help our family immensely as we are unable to go to Timisoara at this time. Etel and Janos left Temesvar/Timisoara and moved to the United States where they raised their family. I would like to find out what happened to their parents, when and where they died, where they are buried. In the case of Etel Antal side of family I would like to find out more history on her family. All I have is what I have given in this email. I know nothing about my grandmother's parents, grandparents or their history. I do have the information on Janos Angner going back to 1500's except for death information and burial location. Any help will be appreciated on this matter. Suzanne Vax Antal/Dianoczki(?) PS. Maybe records of death and burial are at the Millennium Roman Catholic Church where Etel and Janos were married. Is it possible their parents stayed in town and are in a cemetery there? Would the diocese have records on the families? Would the diocese have burial records? Thank you, again for any help on this very important matter to my family. -----Original Message----- From: banat-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:banat-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of banat-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 2:01 AM To: banat@rootsweb.com Subject: BANAT Digest, Vol 5, Issue 288 Today's Topics: 1. Alberts from Teufel's Mercydorf Village Family Tree (Catherine Teufel) 2. [GenRoG] --RE:Re: Lock-up in Familienbuch Deutsch-Stamora (GenealogyRO Group) 3. Rekasch - Rollingers (Amy Nichols) 4. Gerber lookup in Grabatz Familienbuch (Judy Wasness) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 05:48:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine Teufel <rcateuf@yahoo.com> Subject: [BANAT-L] Alberts from Teufel's Mercydorf Village Family Tree To: BANAT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <698385.55754.qm@web113708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 FROM MY VILLAGE OF MERCYDORF FAMILY TREE: ? Adam Albert and Maria Anna of Orczidorf 1.? Georg *`1784 +10 Sep 1785 House #197 2.? Josef #1776 +27 Aug 1784 House #197 ----- Peter Zimmer and Angela Albert *~1785 +1 Mar 1830 House # 106 Mercydorf (8 children) ----- Jakob Albert of Luxemburg and Marie/Anne Marie (Maria/Anna Maria) Gloss (1727-16 Aug 1747 Mercydorf) ?of either Lorraine or Differdingen(?), Kanton Esch, Lux. 1. Maria Josefa *~1761 + 4 Feb 1871 House # NG 2.? Sebastian *8/18? Mar 1767 House # NG? Mercydorf ? oo Anna Sparier of Trier on 22 Sep 1767 House #NG Mercydorf ----- ? Andr? CRUSER/CRAUSER/GRAUTER And Marie Albert (1 child) ----- ? Johann Dage oo 30 Jan 1779 House # 3 Mercydorf? ?Katharina Albreth (*~1753 Luxemburg or Prov. Lux. Belgien? +4 Sep 1776 House # NG Mercydorf ) ? ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 16:15:06 +0300 From: "GenealogyRO Group" <genealogy@banat.ro> Subject: [BANAT-L] [GenRoG] --RE:Re: Lock-up in Familienbuch Deutsch-Stamora To: <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com>, <jotAlbert@Comcast.net> Message-ID: <002301cb737d$7d029aa0$6502a8c0@sorin> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thank You, Rick! Your help is always very much appreciated. It is clear that Mr. Joe ALBERT's great grand-father is Petrus ALBERT, born on 08.12.1824 in Malenitzfalva, as son of Nicolaus ALBERT & Maria Anna HOLZ [or KOLZ?] [according to his M and D dates / ages, he was B ~1826-'27 but a difference of ? 2 years is quite common]. I suspect that Nicolaus ALBERT is the son of Michael ALBERT & Elizabeth NN. In Zychidorf FB: <5409> NIEDERMAYER Christian * ~1755, Strassbourg ? 26.01.1837, Zichydorf oo1. [??] MAYER Magdalena [* ~1763; ? 16.02.1829, Zichydorf] oo2. 31.05.1829, Zichydorf, with Elisabeth ALBERT from Malenitzfalva [MC: she is probably the wife of Michael ALBERT (? 10.11.1826 in Malenitzfalva)], Tz: Peter Boden, Josef Wirth oo3. Elisabeth SCHULTZ [MC: it is quite posible that Elisabeth's family name was SCHULTZ!] <64> ALBERT Johann oo NN Sara 1. Elisabeth, * 24.10.1812, Heidesch?tz, Tp. Piladi Josef, Elisabeth Now, Mr. Joe ALBERT must find the place of origin for the couple Michael ALBERT & Elizabeth [SCHULTZ?]. And there are a lot of possibilities / places to search for clues ... S o r i n http://www.genealogy.ro/contributions.htm ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 10:27:07 -0400 From: Amy Nichols <absn15@gmail.com> Subject: [BANAT-L] Rekasch - Rollingers To: BANAT-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <AANLkTikXvPVTnQBibhjLeM2jHNXCYSQR+eA_+9jWCJCV@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Dave, I have gone back and read past emails in the archives and saw an email regarding the church records of Josefdorf and Rekasch, but there wasn't a note of what year these records were for. I know the family of Lorenz Horvath and Anna Rollinger has probably reached its saturation point, but I did find records in the Gross Gaj records of a Nikolaus Rollinger (Pollinger) married to Magdalena (Kriveton) Grifferton (with possibly a first marriage to Elisabeth Steier). One daughter, Katharina, is listed on her burial record as having been born in Rekasch in abt. 1862. They had another daughter in Ujfalu in 1865 and Anna Rollinger, wife of Lorenz Horvath, is the godmother. I would presume from this that there was some sort of relationship between Nikolaus and Anna. It doesn?t seem that the Josefdorf FB would go back this far, but from the previous email it seems that you may have copies of the Rekasch records, but I wasn't sure if they might go back this far. If it's not too much trouble, could you tell me if there might be any information on Nikolaus in the records? I would very much appreciate it! Thanks so much! Amy Nichols -- "Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle." ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 11:36:26 -0500 From: "Judy Wasness" <judhard@bis.midco.net> Subject: [BANAT-L] Gerber lookup in Grabatz Familienbuch To: "banat" <banat@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <247F2245456B4E2DB6B749418809CDFA@JudyPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am looking for information on Franz Gerber, wife Anna Marie. Their son Nicholas was born in Grabatz in 1799 but I have no further information on Franz or any other children he and Anna Marie may have had or if there were any Gerbers before Franz. Thank you in advance. judy wasness ------------------------------ To contact the BANAT list administrator, send an email to BANAT-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Hello Danube Swabians, One of our great Danube Swabian researchers was Anton Krämer, who passed away this March. I was fortunate to purchase at the Silent Auction in Mt. Angel his manuscript "Von Ulmbach im Bant nach Ingelheim am Rhein" and translated some of the sections for you. More will follow. Please see: From Ulmbach to Ingelheim at www.hrastovac.net via the Bulletin Board as usual. Warm greetings, Rosina Vancouver Island
Hi Judy, I checked the Grabatz book, and the only Franz GERBER that is listed is Franz Josef GERBER, with wife Magdalena. Their first son Nikolaus was born 20.11.1802. Franz is the one who emigrated to the Banat, so there are no GERBERs before him. There are also many GERGERs in the book, which I checked, too. But there was no Franz near the time frame you mentioned. Here is the info from the Grabatz Familienbuch by Alfred Ivanov: 1577 GERBER Franz Josef, carpenter/cabinetmaker * abt. 1781 Eckartsweiler +25.11.1829 Grabatz oo abt. 1800 in Alsace NN Magdalena * abt. 1780 in Alsace children: 1. Nikolaus *20.11.1802 Grabatz oo 12.06.1825 Nitzkydorf to Franziska MELLINGER +10.04.1871 Nitzkydorf 2. Josef *12.09.1804 Grabatz oo 1827 Anna Maria LAMBRECHT 3. Franz *31.01.1809 Grabatz 4. Maria Anna *26.08.1811 Grabatz 5. Margaretha *26.08.1811 Grabatz +17.02.1812 Grabatz 6. Margaretha *19.01.1814 Grabatz +26.12.1818 Grabatz 7. Johann *01.08.1816 Grabatz 8. Magdalena *01.11.1818 Grabatz 9. Georg *19.04.1821 Grabatz +15.12.1822 Grabatz 10.Katharina *09.11.1823 Grabatz oo 1843 Johann PAUL I hope this will be helpful! --Karen On Oct 24, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Judy Wasness wrote: > I am looking for information on Franz Gerber, wife Anna Marie. Their son Nicholas was born in Grabatz in 1799 > but I have no further information on Franz or any other children he and Anna Marie may have had or if there > were any Gerbers before Franz. Thank you in advance. judy wasness
Thank You, Rick! Your help is always very much appreciated. It is clear that Mr. Joe ALBERT's great grand-father is Petrus ALBERT, born on 08.12.1824 in Malenitzfalva, as son of Nicolaus ALBERT & Maria Anna HOLZ [or KOLZ?] [according to his M and D dates / ages, he was B ~1826-'27 but a difference of ± 2 years is quite common]. I suspect that Nicolaus ALBERT is the son of Michael ALBERT & Elizabeth NN. In Zychidorf FB: <5409> NIEDERMAYER Christian * ~1755, Strassbourg ? 26.01.1837, Zichydorf oo1. [??] MAYER Magdalena [* ~1763; ? 16.02.1829, Zichydorf] oo2. 31.05.1829, Zichydorf, with Elisabeth ALBERT from Malenitzfalva [MC: she is probably the wife of Michael ALBERT (? 10.11.1826 in Malenitzfalva)], Tz: Peter Boden, Josef Wirth oo3. Elisabeth SCHULTZ [MC: it is quite posible that Elisabeth's family name was SCHULTZ!] <64> ALBERT Johann oo NN Sara 1. Elisabeth, * 24.10.1812, Heideschütz, Tp. Piladi Josef, Elisabeth Now, Mr. Joe ALBERT must find the place of origin for the couple Michael ALBERT & Elizabeth [SCHULTZ?]. And there are a lot of possibilities / places to search for clues ... S o r i n http://www.genealogy.ro/contributions.htm