Can someone tell me the significance of the costume this woman is wearing? Is it a wedding dress? Or something else? http://picasaweb.google.com/marceschulz/Parison#5521946040841324690 Thanks so much, Marce in Pittsburgh

Marce, I see a rosemary on her left front, so the person was at a wedding. But I do not see any head wreath to indicate that it is the bride. There is also no wedding ring on her left hand, and the space for a wedding ring is taken by a stone ring. Rosina www.hrastovac.net > Can someone tell me the significance of the costume this woman is wearing? > Is it a wedding dress? Or something else? > > > > http://picasaweb.google.com/marceschulz/Parison#5521946040841324690 > > > > Thanks so much, > > > > Marce in Pittsburgh > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Can some kind soul translate these two postcards? I can't make out the writing. http://picasaweb.google.com/marceschulz/Parison?fgl=true <http://picasaweb.google.com/marceschulz/Parison?fgl=true&pli=1#552195276516 0507538> &pli=1#5521952765160507538 http://picasaweb.google.com/marceschulz/Parison?fgl=true <http://picasaweb.google.com/marceschulz/Parison?fgl=true&pli=1#552195483026 6258898> &pli=1#5521954830266258898 Thanks in advance, Marce in Pittsburgh

Hello Dave, I am looking for Nicolaus Remillong and Louis Remillong. Unfortunately, I do not have specific date or place information for either. I do know that Nicolaus, my great-grandfather, was married to Anna Herberholz. Their son Albert was born in 1888 in Ujvar. I am guessing that Nicolaus and Anna were married in the 1880s and born in the 1860s. I do know that Louis, my gg-grandfather, was married to Agnes Lefor. I am guessing they were born in the 1840s. Many members have searched various FBs for me without success. Let me know if you have any questions or suggestions. Thanks, Jerry ________________________________ From: Dave Dreyer <ddreyer@pacbell.net> To: Jerry Remillong <jerrymandering@sbcglobal.net> Cc: Banat List <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, November 1, 2010 7:39:23 PM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Pardan Lookup Jerry; Which Remillong are you looking for? Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Remillong" <jerrymandering@sbcglobal.net> To: "Harold Bratsko" <bhbrat24@msn.com>; "Karen Dalton Preston" <Karen@golden-hills.com> Cc: <banat@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Pardan Lookup > Hello Harold, > > Sorry for the delayed response. Thank you for trying to help me find my > Remillong ancestors in the Banat. Unfortunately for me, none of those > listed in > Zichydorf sound familiar yet. > > Actually, I saw your original note to the Banat list back in February > about the > online FB site. I checked it right away but came up empty. However, it > is a > great resource for all the List members to have free access. So on behalf > of > myself and everyone else, thank you for that great contribution. > > Sincerely, > Jerry Remillong > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Harold Bratsko <bhbrat24@msn.com> > To: Karen Dalton Preston <Karen@golden-hills.com>; Jerry Remillong > <jerrymandering@sbcglobal.net> > Cc: banat@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 8:23:19 AM > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Pardan Lookup > > > Jerry, > > Here are a few in > Zichydorf, > http://www.online-ofb.de/famlist.php?ofb=zichydorf&b=R〈=de&modus= > Harold > From: Jerry Remillong >>To: Karen Dalton Preston >>Cc: banat@rootsweb.com >>Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 10:57 PM >>Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Pardan Lookup >> >>Hi Karen, >>Thanks a lot for taking the time to send that to me. >>Quite interesting to see. Unfortunately, I am still looking for my >>Remillongs >> >>in the Banat. >> >>Thanks again. >>Sincerely, >>Jerry >> >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>From: Karen Dalton Preston <Karen@golden-hills.com> >>To: Jerry Remillong <jerrymandering@sbcglobal.net> >>Cc: banat@rootsweb.com >>Sent: Sun, October 17, 2010 2:44:56 PM >>Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Pardan Lookup >> >>HI JERRY, >> >>I'll send you the REMILLONG info from Parda,as an attachment, off-list. >> >>--Karen >>On Oct 17, 2010, at 1:24 PM, Jerry Remillong wrote: >> >>> Greetings Banat List Members, >>> >>> I am still in need of this favor if someone has time. >>> >>> Would someone who has the Pardan FB please send me a copy of any and >>> all >>> "Remillong" families listed there? (I am still looking for a needle >>> in a >>> haystack.) >>> >>> Thank you in advance for your time. >>> >>> For reference, my ancestors include Remillong, Bruck, Herberholz, >>> Parison, > >>> Lefor, Mueller, Stumpf and Madler. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> Jerry Remillong >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>quotes in >>>the >>> >>>subject and the body of the message >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in >>the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Amy, I received the pages you sent - thanks a lot for sending them. I didn't find any definite connection yet but I think I just missed some ancestors. I will have to find one more link / generation before I can say for sure. Regardless, thanks for taking the time and getting me closer to discovery! Sincerely, Jerry ________________________________ From: Amy Nichols <absn15@gmail.com> To: Jerry Remillong <jerrymandering@sbcglobal.net> Cc: banat@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, November 1, 2010 3:39:23 AM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Sartscha Lookup For Herberholz Hi Jerry, I emailed you the Herberholz pages out of the Sartscha FB. Amy On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Jerry Remillong <jerrymandering@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Greetings Banat List Members, > >Thanks again to all who have assisted in my search for my needle in a haystack! > >With your assistance I would like to try again. Would someone who has the >Sartscha FB please send me a copy of any and all Herberholz families listed >there? Thank you for your time. > >For reference, my ancestors include Remillong, Bruck, Herberholz, Parison, >Lefor, Mueller, Stumpf and Madler. > >Sincerely, >Jerry Remillong > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of >the message > -- "Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle."

In Hungary the main day to go to the cemeteries is November 1st, All Saints' Day, not the day before. Lucky, if it is on the week-end or on Friday or Monday, because then people take advantage of the weekend, go for three days, not everyone on the same day. Many people also go the previous weekend or a few days earlier to beautify the graves, and then again on the afternoon on the 1st to bring fresh flowers and light the candles. We went on Sunday. Met at my grandparents' grave: my mother, 2 aunts, uncle, 2 cousins with spouses and children, my sister with husband and children, my children and I. This year it was a smaller crowd of us, then usual. :-) Then we go to all "our" graves which are all over the main cemetery of Pécs. It takes about 2-3 hours to visit them all. We put some more flowers and the candles on the graves, my aut says a short prayer, and we move on to the next. Finally we visit the "memorial for the unknow soldier", and "the cross" where one lits candles for loved ones burried somewhere else (or at unknown places). Those memorials are beautiful with the hundreds of candles flickering in front of them. In the meantime we have a good chat, say old stories about the deceised, have a good time togethe. It is always completely dark by the time we leave, and all you see is the candles everywhere. The weekend is also good, because many people need to run around the country to visit their relatives' graves, and it is impossible to do it in one day. Also, then they generally take the time to meet their relatives still living in those places. In Hungary people generally visit the cemeteries on the birthday of the burried person, on the day of his/her death, mothers on Mothers' Day, on All Saints Day and at around Christmas. You can often see decorated Christmas trees on children's graves at that time of the year. I visited some graves in the US. They look beautiful, well maintained, but I hear that people burry their relatives, pay for the maintence and rarely go and visit, though the graves are supposed to be there forever. Here, as it was discussed on the list earlier, in larger settlements, due to space constraints, one gets the grave for 25 or 30 years and one has to pay again to keep the grave after that. Most families do pay. But why keep a grave if no one cares any more about the person in it? It seemed to me that for some our system sounds cruel. To me not visiting the graves sounds cruel. Boglárka

Hello Boglarka, In Lugoj we always went to the cemetery on Nov. 1st too. If I am not mistaken Nov. 1st is a holiday in Baden Württemberg, Germany (no school, no work). And yes the days before Allerheiligen people were busy cleaning the graves, the walk ways and decorating everything nicely with flowers. We usually went to the cemetery after sunset to light the candles. There were always so many people there and it was so pretty with all the candles burning. I always light a candle at my house at least now that I don't live in Romania or Germany anymore. Ruxandra Meinze -----Original Message----- From: banat-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:banat-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Boglarka Lazar Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 7:36 AM To: Banat@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Candles on graves on 31st of October In Hungary the main day to go to the cemeteries is November 1st, All Saints' Day, not the day before. Lucky, if it is on the week-end or on Friday or Monday, because then people take advantage of the weekend, go for three days, not everyone on the same day. Many people also go the previous weekend or a few days earlier to beautify the graves, and then again on the afternoon on the 1st to bring fresh flowers and light the candles. We went on Sunday. Met at my grandparents' grave: my mother, 2 aunts, uncle, 2 cousins with spouses and children, my sister with husband and children, my children and I. This year it was a smaller crowd of us, then usual. :-) Then we go to all "our" graves which are all over the main cemetery of Pécs. It takes about 2-3 hours to visit them all. We put some more flowers and the candles on the graves, my aut says a short prayer, and we move on to the next. Finally we visit the "memorial for the unknow soldier", and "the cross" where one lits candles for loved ones burried somewhere else (or at unknown places). Those memorials are beautiful with the hundreds of candles flickering in front of them. In the meantime we have a good chat, say old stories about the deceised, have a good time togethe. It is always completely dark by the time we leave, and all you see is the candles everywhere. The weekend is also good, because many people need to run around the country to visit their relatives' graves, and it is impossible to do it in one day. Also, then they generally take the time to meet their relatives still living in those places. In Hungary people generally visit the cemeteries on the birthday of the burried person, on the day of his/her death, mothers on Mothers' Day, on All Saints Day and at around Christmas. You can often see decorated Christmas trees on children's graves at that time of the year. I visited some graves in the US. They look beautiful, well maintained, but I hear that people burry their relatives, pay for the maintence and rarely go and visit, though the graves are supposed to be there forever. Here, as it was discussed on the list earlier, in larger settlements, due to space constraints, one gets the grave for 25 or 30 years and one has to pay again to keep the grave after that. Most families do pay. But why keep a grave if no one cares any more about the person in it? It seemed to me that for some our system sounds cruel. To me not visiting the graves sounds cruel. Boglárka ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you, Boglárka, For 'painting' to us so beautifully a mental picture of Hungarian All Saints Day's custom, which were similar as in the days of my youth while growing up in Zagreb. Warm greetings from Canada, Rosina In Hungary the main day to go to the cemeteries is November 1st, All Saints' Day, not the day before. Lucky, if it is on the week-end or on Friday or Monday, because then people take advantage of the weekend, go for three days, not everyone on the same day. Many people also go the previous weekend or a few days earlier to beautify the graves, and then again on the afternoon on the 1st to bring fresh flowers and light the candles. We went on Sunday. Met at my grandparents' grave: my mother, 2 aunts, uncle, 2 cousins with spouses and children, my sister with husband and children, my children and I. This year it was a smaller crowd of us, then usual. :-) Then we go to all "our" graves which are all over the main cemetery of Pécs. It takes about 2-3 hours to visit them all. We put some more flowers and the candles on the graves, my aut says a short prayer, and we move on to the next. Finally we visit the "memorial for the unknow soldier", and "the cross" where one lits candles for loved ones burried somewhere else (or at unknown places). Those memorials are beautiful with the hundreds of candles flickering in front of them. In the meantime we have a good chat, say old stories about the deceised, have a good time togethe. It is always completely dark by the time we leave, and all you see is the candles everywhere. The weekend is also good, because many people need to run around the country to visit their relatives' graves, and it is impossible to do it in one day. Also, then they generally take the time to meet their relatives still living in those places. In Hungary people generally visit the cemeteries on the birthday of the burried person, on the day of his/her death, mothers on Mothers' Day, on All Saints Day and at around Christmas. You can often see decorated Christmas trees on children's graves at that time of the year. I visited some graves in the US. They look beautiful, well maintained, but I hear that people burry their relatives, pay for the maintence and rarely go and visit, though the graves are supposed to be there forever. Here, as it was discussed on the list earlier, in larger settlements, due to space constraints, one gets the grave for 25 or 30 years and one has to pay again to keep the grave after that. Most families do pay. But why keep a grave if no one cares any more about the person in it? It seemed to me that for some our system sounds cruel. To me not visiting the graves sounds cruel. Boglárka

The book is also available at Barnes and Noble. http://search.barnesandnoble.com/From-the-Banat-to-North-Dakota/David-Dreyer /e/9780911042665/?itm=1&USRI=Banat+to+North+Dakota for $17.05 online. Steve -----Original Message----- From: banat-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:banat-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave Dreyer Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 9:36 PM To: Mandy L. Wilson Cc: Banat List Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] From the Banat to ND Mandy; The Neuhaus family is not specifically noted in the book. The book, for $20 plus postage, can be ordered directly from the North Dakota Institute for regional Studies from their website at; http://www.ndsu.edu/ahss/ndirs/ Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mandy L. Wilson" <mandylwilson@hotmail.com> To: "Dave Dreyer" <ddreyer@pacbell.net> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] From the Banat to ND > Is there any mention of the Adam Neuhaus family in this book "From the > Banat to North Dakota" ? I would also love to acquire a copy of this book. > Do you know where it is available? > > > > Thanks! > Mandy > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Dave Dreyer" <ddreyer@pacbell.net> > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 11:27 AM > To: "cindy alpert" <ca_alpert@yahoo.com> > Cc: "Banat List" <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] From the Banat to ND > >> Cindy; >> Please see below; >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: cindy alpert >> To: ddreyer@pacbell.net >> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:38 PM >> Subject: From the Banat to ND >> >> >> Hi, I am originally from Richardton, ND but presently >> living in Bismarck. I was at the Heritage Center today and bought the >> book "From the Banat to North Dakota. I knew some of my relatives were >> from that area, specifically Bokowa and that they arrived in ND in 1898. >> I did find my great-grandmother on the manifest on page 30. Her name was >> Anna Pfeiffer and Maria was one of her daughters. It did not list her >> daugter Magdalena (Lena) who would have been 12 years old. Lena was my >> grandmother. Did the manifest just list people over a certain age? >> >> No, everyone was listed on the manifest. Either Magdalena >> came on a different ship, perhaps with another family or perhaps she is >> on the same ship as her mother but was listed separately on another page >> and the entry has been overlooked. >> . >> Also, what is the date of the list which starts on p. >> 198? Another of my great grandmother's daughters was Susanna who married >> Peter Dassinger. The list has her down as a widow. >> >> The Kalenders were published from 1932 to 1954. The data on >> Susanna Dassinger came from the 1951 issue but she could be in the >> issures of other years as well.. >> Go to Banatbooks.com for an index to the kalenders. >> Did the original picture on p. 31 identify the >> individuals?. I have seen that picture before in the Gladstone >> centennial book. >> >> Yes, this a great photo and very widely distributed. We >> know who all is in the photo because we have the names of those in the >> Karl Huth party from the passenger ship manifest but we do not know who >> is who. >> Do you have any information on Anton Emenet and his wife >> Rosalia who also were German Hungarians and settled about 8 miles south >> of Richardton? Their oldest daughter Rosalia married Henry Brandt. ( >> Henry and Rosalia were my grandparents.) The younger Emenet daughter, >> Josephine, married John Goetz. Anton, Rosalia, and Josephine are all >> buried at St. Stephen's cemetary south of Richardton. >> >> Anton Ement was from St Anna. There is a family book for St >> Anna by Alf Kuehrt. >> Emenet Anton, son of Anton Emeneth and Margaret Ganter >> *10 Nov 1847 St Anna +26 Mar 1920 Richardton >> oo >> Hone Rosalia >> *1848 Arad +1920 Richardton >> Josefine *19 Mar 1890 Tschanad +24 >> Dec 1932 Richardton >> >> Rosalia is not in the St Anna family book so one must assume >> she was likely born in another locality. >> You will be able to track the Ement family back to ca 1770 >> with the data in the St Anna family book.. As you probably know, Henry >> Brandt was from Germany. >> >> Any information or suggestions you have that could steer me >> in the right direction would be helpful. >> If you are interested in Banat family history matters you >> might consider subscribing to the Banat mailing list. To join the list >> go to rootsweb.com, click on mailing lists and then follow the >> instructions to get to the Banat list and to subscribe. You will find >> others there on the mailing list who have connections with the North >> Dakota Banat colony. Reinhardt Lovas is working on a family book for >> Bakowa and it should be published in the next year or two. Certainly a >> notice will be posted to the Banat list when it is available. >> You are lucky to have found a copy of "From the Banat to >> North Dakota" When I talked to the publisher, "The North Dakota >> Institute for Regional Studies", a couple of months ago, out of a press >> run of 650 copies they only had a few copies still in stock. >> Dave Dreyer >> >> >> >> . >> Thank you. Cindy Alpert >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jerry; Which Remillong are you looking for? Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Remillong" <jerrymandering@sbcglobal.net> To: "Harold Bratsko" <bhbrat24@msn.com>; "Karen Dalton Preston" <Karen@golden-hills.com> Cc: <banat@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Pardan Lookup > Hello Harold, > > Sorry for the delayed response. Thank you for trying to help me find my > Remillong ancestors in the Banat. Unfortunately for me, none of those > listed in > Zichydorf sound familiar yet. > > Actually, I saw your original note to the Banat list back in February > about the > online FB site. I checked it right away but came up empty. However, it > is a > great resource for all the List members to have free access. So on behalf > of > myself and everyone else, thank you for that great contribution. > > Sincerely, > Jerry Remillong > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Harold Bratsko <bhbrat24@msn.com> > To: Karen Dalton Preston <Karen@golden-hills.com>; Jerry Remillong > <jerrymandering@sbcglobal.net> > Cc: banat@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 8:23:19 AM > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Pardan Lookup > > > Jerry, > > Here are a few in > Zichydorf, > http://www.online-ofb.de/famlist.php?ofb=zichydorf&b=R〈=de&modus= > Harold > From: Jerry Remillong >>To: Karen Dalton Preston >>Cc: banat@rootsweb.com >>Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 10:57 PM >>Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Pardan Lookup >> >>Hi Karen, >>Thanks a lot for taking the time to send that to me. >>Quite interesting to see. Unfortunately, I am still looking for my >>Remillongs >> >>in the Banat. >> >>Thanks again. >>Sincerely, >>Jerry >> >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>From: Karen Dalton Preston <Karen@golden-hills.com> >>To: Jerry Remillong <jerrymandering@sbcglobal.net> >>Cc: banat@rootsweb.com >>Sent: Sun, October 17, 2010 2:44:56 PM >>Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Pardan Lookup >> >>HI JERRY, >> >>I'll send you the REMILLONG info from Parda,as an attachment, off-list. >> >>--Karen >>On Oct 17, 2010, at 1:24 PM, Jerry Remillong wrote: >> >>> Greetings Banat List Members, >>> >>> I am still in need of this favor if someone has time. >>> >>> Would someone who has the Pardan FB please send me a copy of any and >>> all >>> "Remillong" families listed there? (I am still looking for a needle >>> in a >>> haystack.) >>> >>> Thank you in advance for your time. >>> >>> For reference, my ancestors include Remillong, Bruck, Herberholz, >>> Parison, > >>> Lefor, Mueller, Stumpf and Madler. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> Jerry Remillong >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>quotes in >>>the >>> >>>subject and the body of the message >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in >>the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Mandy; The Neuhaus family is not specifically noted in the book. The book, for $20 plus postage, can be ordered directly from the North Dakota Institute for regional Studies from their website at; http://www.ndsu.edu/ahss/ndirs/ Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mandy L. Wilson" <mandylwilson@hotmail.com> To: "Dave Dreyer" <ddreyer@pacbell.net> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] From the Banat to ND > Is there any mention of the Adam Neuhaus family in this book "From the > Banat to North Dakota" ? I would also love to acquire a copy of this book. > Do you know where it is available? > > > > Thanks! > Mandy > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Dave Dreyer" <ddreyer@pacbell.net> > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 11:27 AM > To: "cindy alpert" <ca_alpert@yahoo.com> > Cc: "Banat List" <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] From the Banat to ND > >> Cindy; >> Please see below; >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: cindy alpert >> To: ddreyer@pacbell.net >> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:38 PM >> Subject: From the Banat to ND >> >> >> Hi, I am originally from Richardton, ND but presently >> living in Bismarck. I was at the Heritage Center today and bought the >> book "From the Banat to North Dakota. I knew some of my relatives were >> from that area, specifically Bokowa and that they arrived in ND in 1898. >> I did find my great-grandmother on the manifest on page 30. Her name was >> Anna Pfeiffer and Maria was one of her daughters. It did not list her >> daugter Magdalena (Lena) who would have been 12 years old. Lena was my >> grandmother. Did the manifest just list people over a certain age? >> >> No, everyone was listed on the manifest. Either Magdalena >> came on a different ship, perhaps with another family or perhaps she is >> on the same ship as her mother but was listed separately on another page >> and the entry has been overlooked. >> . >> Also, what is the date of the list which starts on p. >> 198? Another of my great grandmother's daughters was Susanna who married >> Peter Dassinger. The list has her down as a widow. >> >> The Kalenders were published from 1932 to 1954. The data on >> Susanna Dassinger came from the 1951 issue but she could be in the >> issures of other years as well.. >> Go to Banatbooks.com for an index to the kalenders. >> Did the original picture on p. 31 identify the >> individuals?. I have seen that picture before in the Gladstone >> centennial book. >> >> Yes, this a great photo and very widely distributed. We >> know who all is in the photo because we have the names of those in the >> Karl Huth party from the passenger ship manifest but we do not know who >> is who. >> Do you have any information on Anton Emenet and his wife >> Rosalia who also were German Hungarians and settled about 8 miles south >> of Richardton? Their oldest daughter Rosalia married Henry Brandt. ( >> Henry and Rosalia were my grandparents.) The younger Emenet daughter, >> Josephine, married John Goetz. Anton, Rosalia, and Josephine are all >> buried at St. Stephen's cemetary south of Richardton. >> >> Anton Ement was from St Anna. There is a family book for St >> Anna by Alf Kuehrt. >> Emenet Anton, son of Anton Emeneth and Margaret Ganter >> *10 Nov 1847 St Anna +26 Mar 1920 Richardton >> oo >> Hone Rosalia >> *1848 Arad +1920 Richardton >> Josefine *19 Mar 1890 Tschanad +24 >> Dec 1932 Richardton >> >> Rosalia is not in the St Anna family book so one must assume >> she was likely born in another locality. >> You will be able to track the Ement family back to ca 1770 >> with the data in the St Anna family book.. As you probably know, Henry >> Brandt was from Germany. >> >> Any information or suggestions you have that could steer me >> in the right direction would be helpful. >> If you are interested in Banat family history matters you >> might consider subscribing to the Banat mailing list. To join the list >> go to rootsweb.com, click on mailing lists and then follow the >> instructions to get to the Banat list and to subscribe. You will find >> others there on the mailing list who have connections with the North >> Dakota Banat colony. Reinhardt Lovas is working on a family book for >> Bakowa and it should be published in the next year or two. Certainly a >> notice will be posted to the Banat list when it is available. >> You are lucky to have found a copy of "From the Banat to >> North Dakota" When I talked to the publisher, "The North Dakota >> Institute for Regional Studies", a couple of months ago, out of a press >> run of 650 copies they only had a few copies still in stock. >> Dave Dreyer >> >> >> >> . >> Thank you. Cindy Alpert >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >

Dave and Cindy, I found Anna Pfeiffer age 54 with daughters Maria age 20 and Magdalena age 11 arriving on the Willehad in Oct 1898 at port of Baltimore. They are going to Gladstone, ND and are from Bakova and going to relation Peter Dassinger. Found Peter Dassinger and wife Susie and children Stephen, Mary and Anna in Stark Co, ND 1900 but haven't found the Pfeiffer's in 1900. Hope this helps. Shelley On Nov 1, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Dave Dreyer wrote: > Cindy; > Please see below; > ----- Original Message ----- > From: cindy alpert > To: ddreyer@pacbell.net > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:38 PM > Subject: From the Banat to ND > > > Hi, I am originally from Richardton, ND but presently living in Bismarck. I was at the Heritage Center today and bought the book "From the Banat to North Dakota. I knew some of my relatives were from that area, specifically Bokowa and that they arrived in ND in 1898. I did find my great-grandmother on the manifest on page 30. Her name was Anna Pfeiffer and Maria was one of her daughters. It did not list her daugter Magdalena (Lena) who would have been 12 years old. Lena was my grandmother. Did the manifest just list people over a certain age? > > No, everyone was listed on the manifest. Either Magdalena came on a different ship, perhaps with another family or perhaps she is on the same ship as her mother but was listed separately on another page and the entry has been overlooked. > . > Also, what is the date of the list which starts on p. 198? Another of my great grandmother's daughters was Susanna who married Peter Dassinger. The list has her down as a widow. > > The Kalenders were published from 1932 to 1954. The data on Susanna Dassinger came from the 1951 issue but she could be in the issures of other years as well.. > Go to Banatbooks.com for an index to the kalenders. > Did the original picture on p. 31 identify the individuals?. I have seen that picture before in the Gladstone centennial book. > > Yes, this a great photo and very widely distributed. We know who all is in the photo because we have the names of those in the Karl Huth party from the passenger ship manifest but we do not know who is who. > Do you have any information on Anton Emenet and his wife Rosalia who also were German Hungarians and settled about 8 miles south of Richardton? Their oldest daughter Rosalia married Henry Brandt. ( Henry and Rosalia were my grandparents.) The younger Emenet daughter, Josephine, married John Goetz. Anton, Rosalia, and Josephine are all buried at St. Stephen's cemetary south of Richardton. > > Anton Ement was from St Anna. There is a family book for St Anna by Alf Kuehrt. > Emenet Anton, son of Anton Emeneth and Margaret Ganter > *10 Nov 1847 St Anna +26 Mar 1920 Richardton > oo > Hone Rosalia > *1848 Arad +1920 Richardton > Josefine *19 Mar 1890 Tschanad +24 Dec 1932 Richardton > > Rosalia is not in the St Anna family book so one must assume she was likely born in another locality. > You will be able to track the Ement family back to ca 1770 with the data in the St Anna family book.. As you probably know, Henry Brandt was from Germany. > > Any information or suggestions you have that could steer me in the right direction would be helpful. > If you are interested in Banat family history matters you might consider subscribing to the Banat mailing list. To join the list go to rootsweb.com, click on mailing lists and then follow the instructions to get to the Banat list and to subscribe. You will find others there on the mailing list who have connections with the North Dakota Banat colony. Reinhardt Lovas is working on a family book for Bakowa and it should be published in the next year or two. Certainly a notice will be posted to the Banat list when it is available. > You are lucky to have found a copy of "From the Banat to North Dakota" When I talked to the publisher, "The North Dakota Institute for Regional Studies", a couple of months ago, out of a press run of 650 copies they only had a few copies still in stock. > Dave Dreyer > > > > . > Thank you. Cindy Alpert > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We had the same situation in Starcevo.  The cemetery was waist high in weeds.  Some stones were down and others were difficult to find unless you tripped over them. The adjacent Church was in great shape, though. Linda Pichner Klais

Cindy; Please see below; ----- Original Message ----- From: cindy alpert To: ddreyer@pacbell.net Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:38 PM Subject: From the Banat to ND Hi, I am originally from Richardton, ND but presently living in Bismarck. I was at the Heritage Center today and bought the book "From the Banat to North Dakota. I knew some of my relatives were from that area, specifically Bokowa and that they arrived in ND in 1898. I did find my great-grandmother on the manifest on page 30. Her name was Anna Pfeiffer and Maria was one of her daughters. It did not list her daugter Magdalena (Lena) who would have been 12 years old. Lena was my grandmother. Did the manifest just list people over a certain age? No, everyone was listed on the manifest. Either Magdalena came on a different ship, perhaps with another family or perhaps she is on the same ship as her mother but was listed separately on another page and the entry has been overlooked. . Also, what is the date of the list which starts on p. 198? Another of my great grandmother's daughters was Susanna who married Peter Dassinger. The list has her down as a widow. The Kalenders were published from 1932 to 1954. The data on Susanna Dassinger came from the 1951 issue but she could be in the issures of other years as well.. Go to Banatbooks.com for an index to the kalenders. Did the original picture on p. 31 identify the individuals?. I have seen that picture before in the Gladstone centennial book. Yes, this a great photo and very widely distributed. We know who all is in the photo because we have the names of those in the Karl Huth party from the passenger ship manifest but we do not know who is who. Do you have any information on Anton Emenet and his wife Rosalia who also were German Hungarians and settled about 8 miles south of Richardton? Their oldest daughter Rosalia married Henry Brandt. ( Henry and Rosalia were my grandparents.) The younger Emenet daughter, Josephine, married John Goetz. Anton, Rosalia, and Josephine are all buried at St. Stephen's cemetary south of Richardton. Anton Ement was from St Anna. There is a family book for St Anna by Alf Kuehrt. Emenet Anton, son of Anton Emeneth and Margaret Ganter *10 Nov 1847 St Anna +26 Mar 1920 Richardton oo Hone Rosalia *1848 Arad +1920 Richardton Josefine *19 Mar 1890 Tschanad +24 Dec 1932 Richardton Rosalia is not in the St Anna family book so one must assume she was likely born in another locality. You will be able to track the Ement family back to ca 1770 with the data in the St Anna family book.. As you probably know, Henry Brandt was from Germany. Any information or suggestions you have that could steer me in the right direction would be helpful. If you are interested in Banat family history matters you might consider subscribing to the Banat mailing list. To join the list go to rootsweb.com, click on mailing lists and then follow the instructions to get to the Banat list and to subscribe. You will find others there on the mailing list who have connections with the North Dakota Banat colony. Reinhardt Lovas is working on a family book for Bakowa and it should be published in the next year or two. Certainly a notice will be posted to the Banat list when it is available. You are lucky to have found a copy of "From the Banat to North Dakota" When I talked to the publisher, "The North Dakota Institute for Regional Studies", a couple of months ago, out of a press run of 650 copies they only had a few copies still in stock. Dave Dreyer . Thank you. Cindy Alpert

Hi Jerry, I emailed you the Herberholz pages out of the Sartscha FB. Amy On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Jerry Remillong < jerrymandering@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Greetings Banat List Members, > > Thanks again to all who have assisted in my search for my needle in a > haystack! > > With your assistance I would like to try again. Would someone who has the > Sartscha FB please send me a copy of any and all Herberholz families listed > there? Thank you for your time. > > For reference, my ancestors include Remillong, Bruck, Herberholz, Parison, > Lefor, Mueller, Stumpf and Madler. > > Sincerely, > Jerry Remillong > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- "Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle."

Greetings Banat List Members, Thanks again to all who have assisted in my search for my needle in a haystack! With your assistance I would like to try again. Would someone who has the Sartscha FB please send me a copy of any and all Herberholz families listed there? Thank you for your time. For reference, my ancestors include Remillong, Bruck, Herberholz, Parison, Lefor, Mueller, Stumpf and Madler. Sincerely, Jerry Remillong

Hello Harold, Sorry for the delayed response. Thank you for trying to help me find my Remillong ancestors in the Banat. Unfortunately for me, none of those listed in Zichydorf sound familiar yet. Actually, I saw your original note to the Banat list back in February about the online FB site. I checked it right away but came up empty. However, it is a great resource for all the List members to have free access. So on behalf of myself and everyone else, thank you for that great contribution. Sincerely, Jerry Remillong ________________________________ From: Harold Bratsko <bhbrat24@msn.com> To: Karen Dalton Preston <Karen@golden-hills.com>; Jerry Remillong <jerrymandering@sbcglobal.net> Cc: banat@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 8:23:19 AM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Pardan Lookup Jerry, Here are a few in Zichydorf, http://www.online-ofb.de/famlist.php?ofb=zichydorf&b=R〈=de&modus= Harold From: Jerry Remillong >To: Karen Dalton Preston >Cc: banat@rootsweb.com >Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 10:57 PM >Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Pardan Lookup > >Hi Karen, >Thanks a lot for taking the time to send that to me. >Quite interesting to see. Unfortunately, I am still looking for my >Remillongs > >in the Banat. > >Thanks again. >Sincerely, >Jerry > > > > >________________________________ >From: Karen Dalton Preston <Karen@golden-hills.com> >To: Jerry Remillong <jerrymandering@sbcglobal.net> >Cc: banat@rootsweb.com >Sent: Sun, October 17, 2010 2:44:56 PM >Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Pardan Lookup > >HI JERRY, > >I'll send you the REMILLONG info from Parda,as an attachment, off-list. > >--Karen >On Oct 17, 2010, at 1:24 PM, Jerry Remillong wrote: > >> Greetings Banat List Members, >> >> I am still in need of this favor if someone has time. >> >> Would someone who has the Pardan FB please send me a copy of any and all >> "Remillong" families listed there? (I am still looking for a needle in a >> haystack.) >> >> Thank you in advance for your time. >> >> For reference, my ancestors include Remillong, Bruck, Herberholz, Parison, >> Lefor, Mueller, Stumpf and Madler. >> >> Sincerely, >> Jerry Remillong >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >>the >> >>subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message >

Marvin, It definitely is upsetting when visiting those cemeteries and finding them in such a ruin. We all know that in 1944 a treaty was signed that in exchange for our huge DS assets our cemeteries will be looked after for all the times to come. And how are they looked after? Its a crying shame! Rosina www.hrastovac.net Rosina, Just returned from a trip to Romania and Serbia visiting villages where my German grandparents had lived 100 years ago. Situation of the cemetery was better in Uivar, Romania, but the Rudolphsgnad and D. Etschka were very upsetting. I do not know if individual families or the communities care for the cemeteies. Rudolphsgnad had a lovely Serbian section and next to it was a ruin of broken stones, damaged stones, etc. The whole area was engulfed in weeds and much of it entangled in vines. It was nearly impossible to walk through it. It was extremely disheartening. D. Etschka was not nearly as bad but also uncared for with a tangle of weeks. Stones were not damaged, however. Marvin

Thanks, Fred, That surely is interesting. It definitely is the custom not only in Europe to light candles when one visits the family graves, but specifically on the 31st of October all of the graves will receive lit candles. I hope our members in Switzerland/Germany or Zagreb (!) will send us a photo of it and I shall post it on the webpage for all of us to see. Rosina Rosina.... I live outside Kirkfield, Ont. There is a Catholic Cemetery across the road and we are surrounded by miles of bush. Some years ago someone put one of those small solar powered lights on a grave and now it has become so popular that at night the cemetery looks like a city all lit up. Some are even coloured!!. I have a feeling that this quaint idea will spread as prople see it. Fred Sprager

Thank you Kathe, for confirming the date. Yes, it is a beautiful sight seeing all those candles flickering on the graves come evening and I hope those touching customs will be implemented here in North America also. Rosina > Hi Rosina, > > I remember, on October 3lst, going to the cemetery with candles and > flowers. . The graves where all decorated and it was a most beautiful > place when it got dark and the candles were lit. For days people polished > the stones and cleaned the graves. On the night before All Saints day, the > cemetery was always filled with people. > > For All Souls day, the 2nd of November, our family celebrated with > lighting candles after the evening meal followed with prayers. > > I think you are correct. Kathe > > That was a very special time in the village. Kathe