I am new to the list and looking for information on my Grandparents from the Banat. What information I have on them from Hungary is from family stories and documents that my father had. I have not been able to find anything on them in any other records or indexes. I have not been able to verify the names of my Great Grandparents or go back any further - I have hit a brick wall. Any information anyone can provide or point me in the right direction is greatly appreciated. Catherine ROTH had a father or brothers named Anthony ROTH and Pal ROTH. Adam FOHS & Catherine ROTH had: * Elizabeth FOHS b. 1883 in Nagykikinda, Hungary * Adam FOHS b. 6 Nov 1889 in Nagykikinda, Hungary m. Magdalena KNAB 1Jan1918 in Chicago, IL. Adam left Bremen on 11Sep1912 aboard the S.S. Konigin Luise. Starting at the age of 14, Adam spent his 4-year apprenticeship under master ropemaker Pal ROTH at Nagykikinda, Hungary from 1 March 1904 to 1 March 1908 as an apprentice studying the craft of ropemaking. Juszt KNAB & Maria RECZLER had: * Magdalena KNAB b. 24 Dec 1879 in Seultour, Hungary m. Josef Klar (b. about 1881) in1902. She was baptized Catholic at Saint-Hubert. Magdalena arrived in New York on 16Oct1907 aboard the Barbarossa. They divorced or Josef died. Magdalena KLAR & Josef KLAR had: * Elizabeth KLAR b. 10Sep1903 in Yugoslavia. Josef HIPFEL b. 25Feb1881 in Grabatz, Hungary m. Elizabeth FOHS in 1900. Josef HIPFEL & Elizabeth FOHS had: * Teresa A. HIPFEL b. 28Aug1901 in Hungary * Elizabeth HIPFEL b. 1Jul1905 in Hungary * Joseph A. HIPFEL b. 19May1906 in Hungary Thanks, Maria Moore

Hello Dave Dreyer, I'm glad that you could help me with the Information of his parents at least, I really appreciate any other kind of help that someone could provide. Thank you very much for all of your assistance, wish you good health and have a nice day. Best Regards, Charles S. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Dreyer Sent: 03/26/14 08:08 PM To: Charles Smith Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] St. Georgen Family Lookup Charles, The parents are given as Johann Bier and Ann Maria NN. There is no further information. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Smith" <[email protected]> To: "BANAT" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:54 AM Subject: [BANAT-L] St. Georgen Family Lookup > Hello and Greetings to the Banat Researchers in this mailing list > > I would like to know if someone can lookup on the Kathreinfeld/St.Georgen > an der Bega Familienbuch for the family of Franz Bier, who was born or > Christened in St. György (St. Georgen) on *09.11.1815, and later he moved > to Tschesterlek, according to what I've learned. I will be very glad if I > could know who were his parents and ancestors that came to the Banat. I'll > be patiently waiting for your answer. > Thank you very much for all of your help and wish you a wonderful day and > to all the community of the Banat mailing list. > > > Best Regards, > Charles S. > > ------------------------------- ! > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Dave for the information. Theresia was the widow of my cousin Josef Bitto. Robert Evensen -----Original Message----- From: Dave Dreyer Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 4:00 PM To: Banat List Subject: [BANAT-L] Death of Theresia Bitto Long time Banat resercher, Theresia Bitto of Ontario Canada has passed away at the age of 86. Theresia was born in Arad and was active in Banat family history matters long before the Banat list and the internet made communication so facile. Dave Dreyer ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Charles, The parents are given as Johann Bier and Ann Maria NN. There is no further information. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Smith" <[email protected]> To: "BANAT" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:54 AM Subject: [BANAT-L] St. Georgen Family Lookup > Hello and Greetings to the Banat Researchers in this mailing list > > I would like to know if someone can lookup on the Kathreinfeld/St.Georgen > an der Bega Familienbuch for the family of Franz Bier, who was born or > Christened in St. György (St. Georgen) on *09.11.1815, and later he moved > to Tschesterlek, according to what I've learned. I will be very glad if I > could know who were his parents and ancestors that came to the Banat. I'll > be patiently waiting for your answer. > Thank you very much for all of your help and wish you a wonderful day and > to all the community of the Banat mailing list. > > > Best Regards, > Charles S. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Dave - Our thoughts and prayers go out to the family of Theresia Bitto. Our thanks to her for the long time devoted to family history for the benefit of all. Sincerely - Betty On 26/03/2014 2:00 PM, Dave Dreyer wrote: > Long time Banat resercher, Theresia Bitto of Ontario Canada has passed away at the age of 86. > Theresia was born in Arad and was active in Banat family history matters long before the Banat list and the internet made communication so facile. > Dave Dreyer > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Long time Banat resercher, Theresia Bitto of Ontario Canada has passed away at the age of 86. Theresia was born in Arad and was active in Banat family history matters long before the Banat list and the internet made communication so facile. Dave Dreyer

Hello and Greetings to the Banat Researchers in this mailing list I would like to know if someone can lookup on the Kathreinfeld/St.Georgen an der Bega Familienbuch for the family of Franz Bier, who was born or Christened in St. György (St. Georgen) on *09.11.1815, and later he moved to Tschesterlek, according to what I've learned. I will be very glad if I could know who were his parents and ancestors that came to the Banat. I'll be patiently waiting for your answer. Thank you very much for all of your help and wish you a wonderful day and to all the community of the Banat mailing list. Best Regards, Charles S.

I just found in the Setschan fb a Till (Diel) Josef b. 1848 Tschestelek to Wilhelm u Eliz Wagner. Josef married Theresia Lux in Setschan. Could somebody please give me information on Wilhelm and Josef Till (Diel) and any families related. Use your imagination on the spelling of this name please. Thank you in advance. Pat Haley

Darrel, There was a query on the AKdFF list from Ragner Schmidt asking about your Kuehlburger family. Pasted below is my reply to Ragner. Perhaps he was asking on your behaft. If not perhaps my answer will be of interest to you. Dave Dreyer Ragnar, > From the Raaz St Peter Familienbuch by Franz Lux. > Kuehlburger Jakob > 1oo 04.02.1834 RSP > Lorch Magdalena > 2oo 03.02.1826 Perjamosch > Lux Eva, dau of Wendelin Lux and Marianna Frank > *21.02.1826 RSP > 1 Magdalena *1844 +08.09.1849 RSP > 2 Philipp *24.11.1845 Perjamosch > 3 Eva *05.08.1848 Perjamosch > 4 Katharina *04.05.1851 RSP > > Further data on this family can also be found in the Perjamosch family > book. > Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Dreyer" <[email protected]> To: "Darrel Hockley" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Jakob Kulburg family of Perjamosch - 1850s > Darrel, > My best guess is that your data will be found in Warjasch. Unfortunately > there is no Warjasch familybook available at this time. > Dave Dreyer > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Darrel Hockley" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 4:03 PM > Subject: [BANAT-L] Jakob Kulburg family of Perjamosch - 1850s > > >> Would anyone please know where the family of Jakob Kulburg and his wife >> Eva Lux of Perjamosch moved to? Jakob was born there in 1822 and Eva was >> born there in 1826. They married at Perjamosch in 1845 and had four >> children: Magdalena (died 1849), Philipp (born 1845), Eva (born 1848), >> and Katharina (born 1851). At some point Eva married Jakob Piller and >> Katharina married Nikolaus Kronberger (born 1849 at Neusiedel, son of >> Johann Kronberger and Barbara Schutz). Katharina Kronberger survived >> Nikolaus and died on 30 January 1924 at Bogarosch. I do not know when and >> where Nikolaus died. >> >> >> I am interested in where Jakob and Eva Kulburg died and where their >> daughters Eva and Katharina got married to their respective husbands. >> Thank you. >> >> Darrel Hockley >> Regina, SK, Canada >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >

Sharon, There is no Bakowa family book at this time. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:23 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] Wagendorfs in Bakowa > Thank you David Dreyer for the information on Johann Wagendorf from Bakowa > who immigrated to North Dakota. Now I wondering if someone has a Bakowa > family book and if there are Wagendorfs in it besides Johann b. 1854. I > know his father was also Johann, but have no birth date for him. I'm > looking for a Ferencz Wagendorf possibly born before or after 1854. Any > ideas will be most appreciated! > > Sharon Aller > Seattle > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sharon, There is a Franz Wagendorf *09.09.1793 Darowa. There is second Franz W. *04.05.1826 Darowa. There is a third Franz W. *08.09.1843 Wet. There is a fourth Frax W. *1861 Wet. +09.02.1891 Darowa. All information is from the Darowa familienbuch.  This information might be updated in the second edition of the book. I hope this helps. Cathy Teufel O'Neill

Thank you David Dreyer for the information on Johann Wagendorf from Bakowa who immigrated to North Dakota. Now I wondering if someone has a Bakowa family book and if there are Wagendorfs in it besides Johann b. 1854. I know his father was also Johann, but have no birth date for him. I'm looking for a Ferencz Wagendorf possibly born before or after 1854. Any ideas will be most appreciated! Sharon Aller Seattle ----- Original Message -----

Sharon, There was a Wagendorf in the Banat North Dakota colony. For details see the Josefsdorf-North Dakota file at Banatbooks.com Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] BANAT Digest, Vol 9, Issue 56 >I have information about the Wagendorf family in the Darova Lugosch Timis >area, but only up to 1835. I'm looking for ancestors born after 1834 and up >to 1900. Does anyone have a family book or know of another source where I >might find more recent entries? > > Sharon > Seattle > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

hello Staša i know, where i found it. http://www.arhivpancevo.org.rs/fondmfde.htm To get this church records on DVD? Stefan Am 16.03.2014 15:18, schrieb Stasa Cvetkovic: > Hello Stefan, the only CB's for Crepaja available in our archives in > Serbia are Serbian Orthodox: > > B: 1798-1895 > > C: 1821-1895 > > D: 1821-1895 > > > Staša > > > > On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Stefan Sabolowitsch > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Hello all, > I'm looking for the church books of Zrepaja (Crepaja) close to > Pantcevo and Jabuka. > My family came from Jabuka and i've had the church registers. > At the wedding of my first ancestors from Jabuka, i took some > notes from Zrepaja (Crepaja). > > thanks for any help. > Stefan Sabolowitsch > > > > > -- > *Stasa Cvetkovic** > * > *http://www.synergia.rs/* > *Tel/fax: +381 21 553 265* > *Mobile: +381 62 598 517* > *Novi Sad, Serbia* > * > * > *Visit our webpage <http://www.synergia.rs/> > *

Hello Stefan, the only CB's for Crepaja available in our archives in Serbia are Serbian Orthodox: B: 1798-1895 C: 1821-1895 D: 1821-1895 Staša On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Stefan Sabolowitsch < [email protected]> wrote: > Hello all, > I'm looking for the church books of Zrepaja (Crepaja) close to Pantcevo > and Jabuka. > My family came from Jabuka and i've had the church registers. > At the wedding of my first ancestors from Jabuka, i took some notes from > Zrepaja (Crepaja). > > thanks for any help. > Stefan Sabolowitsch > -- *Stasa Cvetkovic* *http://www.synergia.rs/ <http://www.synergia.rs/>* *Tel/fax: +381 21 553 265* *Mobile: +381 62 598 517* *Novi Sad, Serbia* *Visit our webpage <http://www.synergia.rs/>*

Hello all, I'm looking for the church books of Zrepaja (Crepaja) close to Pantcevo and Jabuka. My family came from Jabuka and i've had the church registers. At the wedding of my first ancestors from Jabuka, i took some notes from Zrepaja (Crepaja). thanks for any help. Stefan Sabolowitsch

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Hello Rita, I can provide the following Debeljača records: REFORMED: B 1794-1908 M 1794-1899 D 1805-1893 Staša On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Rita Schiwanowitsch <[email protected]>wrote: > I am in search of church records for the following village in Banat (all > of the names denote the same village). > > Torontalvasarhely (Hungarian) or Vasarhely > Debeljatscha (German) > Debeljaca (Serbian) > > I believe the city I am looking for is just north of Belgrade. I have > found several entries in the Jabuka (a neighboring town) that list this > city of birth. > > The religious preference in the town is unknown. > > Thank you, > > Rita > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Stasa Cvetkovic* *http://www.synergia.rs/ <http://www.synergia.rs/>* *Tel/fax: +381 21 553 265* *Mobile: +381 62 598 517* *Novi Sad, Serbia* *Visit our webpage <http://www.synergia.rs/>*

Stephan, If you are successful in achieving this... could you please let me know? Rita > Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 15:32:19 +0100 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > CC: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Zrepaja (Crepaja) > > hello Staša > i know, where i found it. > http://www.arhivpancevo.org.rs/fondmfde.htm > > To get this church records on DVD? > > Stefan > > Am 16.03.2014 15:18, schrieb Stasa Cvetkovic: > > Hello Stefan, the only CB's for Crepaja available in our archives in > > Serbia are Serbian Orthodox: > > > > B: 1798-1895 > > > > C: 1821-1895 > > > > D: 1821-1895 > > > > > > Staša > > > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Stefan Sabolowitsch > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > Hello all, > > I'm looking for the church books of Zrepaja (Crepaja) close to > > Pantcevo and Jabuka. > > My family came from Jabuka and i've had the church registers. > > At the wedding of my first ancestors from Jabuka, i took some > > notes from Zrepaja (Crepaja). > > > > thanks for any help. > > Stefan Sabolowitsch > > > > > > > > > > -- > > *Stasa Cvetkovic** > > * > > *http://www.synergia.rs/* > > *Tel/fax: +381 21 553 265* > > *Mobile: +381 62 598 517* > > *Novi Sad, Serbia* > > * > > * > > *Visit our webpage <http://www.synergia.rs/> > > * > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Rita, here is what I found on the internet. *Debeljača*hill 44°30' N 16°06' E <http://data.jewishgen.org/maps/mapdist8.asp?lat=44.5006&long=16.1056>E<http://www.jewishgen.org/cgi-bin/expediamaps2.pl?lat=44.5006&lng=16.1056> M <http://www.jewishgen.org/cgi-bin/mapquest.pl?lat=445006&lng=161056> U<http://www.jewishgen.org/cgi-bin/multimap.pl?lat=44.5006&lng=16.1056> G<http://www.jewishgen.org/cgi-bin/google.pl?q=44.5006,16.1056+(Debeljača)>Croatia 89.9 miles S of Zagreb 45°48' N 16°0' E<http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~gazetteer_radius~10~MILES~44~30~16~06~~> *Debeljača*mountain 44°30' N 16°06' E <http://data.jewishgen.org/maps/mapdist8.asp?lat=44.4964&long=16.1069>E<http://www.jewishgen.org/cgi-bin/expediamaps2.pl?lat=44.4964&lng=16.1069> M <http://www.jewishgen.org/cgi-bin/mapquest.pl?lat=444964&lng=161069> U<http://www.jewishgen.org/cgi-bin/multimap.pl?lat=44.4964&lng=16.1069> G<http://www.jewishgen.org/cgi-bin/google.pl?q=44.4964,16.1069+(Debeljača)>Croatia 90.2 miles S of Zagreb 45°48' N 16°0' E On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 2:01 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Vasarhely (Rita Schiwanowitsch) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 11:33:53 -0600 > From: Rita Schiwanowitsch <[email protected]> > Subject: [BANAT-L] Vasarhely > To: "[email protected]" > <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I am in search of church records for the following village in Banat (all > of the names denote the same village). > > Torontalvasarhely (Hungarian) or Vasarhely > Debeljatscha (German) > Debeljaca (Serbian) > > I believe the city I am looking for is just north of Belgrade. I have > found several entries in the Jabuka (a neighboring town) that list this > city of birth. > > The religious preference in the town is unknown. > > Thank you, > > Rita > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BANAT list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the BANAT mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of BANAT Digest, Vol 9, Issue 59 > ************************************ >