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    1. [BANAT-L] Kittl in Signmondfeld
    2. brenda bering
    3. I was wondering if there are any listings on Johann Kittl and Magdelena Knapp's children? Johann Kittl born March 7, 1884 in Giera and his wife Magadelena Knapp born March 22, 1887 in Sigmundfeld There children are: Stephen Kittl born in 1907 died in 1911 in Sigmundfeld Anna Kittl born December 14, 1909 in Sigmundfeld Paul Kittl born September 23, 1914 in Sigmundfeld Barbara Kittl born on September 9, 1920 in Sigmundfeld

    04/07/2014 06:59:53
    1. [BANAT-L] Johann Kittl in Giera
    2. brenda bering
    3. I am looking for Johann Kittl who married Magdelena Knapp I am told by a family member that his parents are Nikolaus Schneider and Frances Kittl Nicholas Schneider born March 1856 married Frances Kittl born 1854 There children are: Katie born 1880 in Gros Scengony Nani born in 1882 in Giera Johann born march 7, 1884 in Giera He took on the name Kittl He married Magdelena Knapp daughter of Nicholas and Christina Knapp Kathi born March 5, 1886 in Gier, married a Koller Anna born June 22, 1990 Nicholas

    04/07/2014 06:55:15
    1. [BANAT-L] Dama in Klek
    2. brenda bering
    3. I am looking for Nikolaus Dama he is on the ship York from Bremen departure records to Winnipeg, MB His father is Anton Dama lives at Klek 114 Anton Dama father is Peter Dama Peter's father is George Dama I was wondering if the children would be including in the listings, I am trying to tie this family with Wenzel Dama and Anna Mariea Brech, Wenzel is the son of Johann Stephan and Agnes Kolin, Johann is the son of Jakob and Mariea Anna Lenoire family. I was told that Peter and Wenzel may have been brothers?

    04/07/2014 06:50:28
    1. [BANAT-L] Joseph Szentivanyi
    2. Searching for Joseph Szentivanyi born Siebenburgen 1887. Arrived in states via Maryland port . Mother and father separated and mother used the name Sara Baku. Had a brother John and a sister Beppi. Sister had children. Ann Hwass

    04/06/2014 05:25:18
    1. Re: [BANAT-L] Rehling or Grosser in Klek
    2. Paul Clark
    3. Hello, There doesn't appear to be a match or perhaps there are gaps in the Lazarfeld/Klek book.  Klek church was part of Lazarfeld parish at times and records were good, but when it became it's own parish (someone else may no more) , records are lacking.  Additional information would be needed to fill the gaps. Below is the info for Rehling.  Similar for Grosser, there are many possible Magdalena, but additional information is needed and info is below.   Paul Quentin Clark   1438 Rheli ( Rehling, Reli, Rely ) Adam, Sv Johann Reli u. Barbara Müller * 05.05.1787 Sackelhausen 1. oo 28.10.1805 Großjestscha Steur ( Steuer, Steier, Steyer ) Angela, Tv Jakob St. u. Franziska Gilion * 17.03.1788 Gje. + 20.08.1825 SGB. 1. Sebastian * 18.08.1806 Gje. 2. Joseph * 23.09.1809 Gje. 3. Anton * 02.02.1816 SGB. 4. Johann * 12.08.1819 SGB. oo ( 1440 ) 5. Mathias * 19.09.1821 SGB. oo ( 1439 ) 2. oo 15.10.1826 Kathreinfeld Krisch Barbara, Witwe des Adam Krisch * 1770 ? + 01.08.1830 SGB. 3. oo 16.05.1833 Laz. Tz: Nikolaus Orszo u. Jakob Jung Dinser Elisabeth, Witwe des Christoph D. Klek ( 1860 ) * 1792 ? + 15.04.1834, 42 J. Kkl. Josef Queiser: Fb. Kathreinfeld-ST. Georgen / Bega 1691 Josef Kühn: Fb. Sackelhausen 2713.5 Hans Wikete: Fb. Großjetscha 1439 Rheling ( Reli ) Mathias, Sv Adam R. u. Angela Steuer ( 1438.5 ) * 09.09.1821 SGB. oo 1841 ? Hari Katharina ( 0537.4 ) * 03.01.1821 1. Martin * 18.09.1841 Kkl. 2. Eva * 05.02.1843 Kkl. 3. Peter * 22.10.1844 Kkl. 4. Martin * 13.11.1846 Kkl. 5. Anna * 12.10.1848 Kkl. Josef Queiser: Fb. Kathreinfeld-St. Georgen/ Bega 2583.3 1440 Rehling Johann ( 1438.4 ) * 12.08.1819 SGB. 1. oo 1842 ? Leitner Eva, Tv Johann L. u. Elisabeth Klinghammer * 10.06.1814 Heufeld + vor 1847 ? 1. Marianna * 05.09.1843 Kkl. 2. oo vor 1847 Salomon ( Szalomon ) Katharina, ( 1492.2 ) * 05.12.1824 Kkl. 2. Anna * 11.05.1847 Kkl. 3. Johann * 06.12.1848 Kkl. Josef Kühn: Fb. Heufeld-Mastort 1883.11 Josef Queiser: Fb. Kathreinfeld-St. Georgen / Bega 2583.2     0495 Gröszer ( Groszer, Gräzer ) Friedrich 1. oo 1818 ? NN Anna Maria + 27.08.1831, 27 J. Kkl. 1. Franz  * 30.12.1818 Kkl. oo ( 0500 ) 2. Katharina  * 10.07.1821 Kkl. + 02.11.1826 Kkl. 3. Eva * 24.12.1824 Kkl. 4. Jakob * 1826 ? + 29.09.1827, 1 J. Kkl. 5. Anna * 22.10.1828 Kkl. o-o Magdalena ( 0504 ) 6. Peter * 02.12.1830 Kkl. + 09.01.1831 Kkl. 2. oo 13.11.1831 Laz. Tz: Anton Jegel u. Nikolaus Altmayer Kretler Maria, Witwe des Franz K. ( 0956 ) geb. Schampier Tv Johann Peter Sch. u. Anna Maria Hari * 31.01.1811 Lovrin 7. Jakob * 26.05.1834 Kkl. 8. Joseph * 03.01.1837 Kkl. 9. Elisabeth * 08.08.1839 Kkl. 10. Anna * 02.02.1842 Kkl. 11. Johann * 01.03.1843 Kkl. 12. Marianna * 16.04.1847 Kkl. 13. Anna * 27.02.1850 Kkl. Philipp Lung: Fb. Deutsch-Etschka-Sigmundfeld 3122.h 0496 Gröszer Joseph in Klek * 1800 ? oo 1820 ? Ernst Magdalena * 1800 ? 1. Barbara * 19.11.1820 Kkl. oo Nikolaus Petri ( 1319) 2. Joseph * 01.01.1823 Kkl. oo ( 0503 ) 3. Anna * 23.07.1826 Kkl. + 17.08.1827 Kkl. 4. Anna * 20.01.1829 Kkl. oo Jeremi Hoffmann ( 0645 A ) 5. Magdalena * 15.07.1834 Kkl. 6. Peter * 22.04.1836 Kkl. ( 0496 A ) 7. Magdalena * 14.05.1839 Kkl. 0496 A Grösser Peter, Sv. Josef G. und Magdalena Ernst, ( 0496.6 ) * Klek 22.04.1836, Wo: Klek 10. + Klek 26.09.1917 oo Schirardo Margaretha, Tv. * ---, + Klek 06.10.1895 1. Rosalia * 03.10.1865, oo Thomas Jakschitz ( 0713 A ) Hans Repp: Fb Klek 0290 0497 Greszer ( Gröszer ) Jakob in Klek 1. oo 01.02.1818 Laz. Tz: Adam Klein u. Christoph Kinder Arbeiter Theresia 1. Johann * 19.01.1819 Kkl. 2. Jakob * 16.01.1821 Kkl. oo ( 0501 ) 3. Jakob * 15.04.1822 Kkl. + 20.02.1872 D-E. oo 17.06.1850 Heufeld: Anna Buchholz 4. Nikolaus * 04.11.1824 Kkl. 5. Magdaklena * 01.02.1828 Kkl   2. oo 13.06.1830 Laz. Tz: Wilhelm Ludwig u. Josef Dreyer Pest Anna Maria, ledig Tv Johann Christoph P. u. Barbara Fabek * 12.04.1806 Gottlob 6. Elisabeth * 13.04.1832 Kkl. 7. Joseph * 01.04.1836 Kkl. 8. Franz * 02.12.1838 Kkl. Josef Kühn: Fb. Heufeld-Mastort 1020 Philipp Lung: Fb. Deutsch-Etschka-Sigmundfeld 1065, Fb.Gottlob 1293.5 0498 Kröszer ( Grösz, Greszer ) Johann * 1805 ? 1. oo 05.02.1826 Laz. Tz: Johann Arbeiter u. Nikolaus Becker, SGB Ludwig Katharina, Tv Johann L. u. Katharina Maltet in Ste. * 09.03.1805 Ste. + 22.08.1831 Kkl. 1. Johann * 24.11.1827 Kkl. 2. oo 20.11.1831 Sartscha, Tz: Peter Wambach u. Nikolaus Till Hauprich Elisabeth 2. Anna * 24.10.1832 Kkl. + 28.10.1832 Kkl. 3. Jakob * 29.08.1835 Kkl. 4. Franz * 21.01.1839 Kkl. 5. Magdalena * 04.02.1841 Kkl. 6. Peter * 22.11.1843 Kkl. Josef Kühn: Fb. Sartscha 0468 Hans Awender: Fb. Stephansfeld 58.006,OL   0499 Grösser Martin in Klek * 1810 ? oo 31.01.1830 Laz. Tz: Johann Kovats u. Johann Hohenberger Schmidt Barbara, Tv Anton Sch. u. Elisabeth Schwal * 24.02.1810 Stanischits 1. Peter * 05.01.1832 Kkl. 2. Magdalena * 29.11.1830 Kkl. + 20.09.1834 Kkl. 3. Anna Maria * 08.11.1835 Kkl. 4. Katharina * 30.08.1837 Kkl. 5. Philipp * 04.01.1840 Kkl. 6. Johann * 03.12.1841 Kkl. 7. Johann * 09.08.1843 Kkl. Philipp Lung: Fb. Deutsch-Etschka-Sigmundfeld 3233. 0499 A Grösser Philipp, Sv. Martin G. und Barbara Schmidt ( 0499.5 ) * Klek 04.01.1840, Wo: Klek , + 30.08.1922 oo Potje Margaretha, Tv. * ---, + Klek 29.08.1923 1. Johannes * Klek 19.07.1859, ( 0499 B ) Hans Repp: Fb Klek 0299 0499 B Grösser Johannes, Sv Philipp G. und Margaretha Potje ( 0499 A ) * Klek 19.07.1859, Wo: Klek 102b, +25.11.1918 oo Krettler Susanna, Tv.Christof K. und Magdalena Weiß (beide aus Kathreinfeld) * Kathreinfeld(Sterberegister:Klek) 28.05.1864, + Klek 08.10.1925 1. Nikolaus * Klek 03.07.1887 ( 0499C ) 2. Maria * Klek 1891, + 29.05.1897, 6J. 3. Josef * Klek 04.08.1898, + Klek 22.01.1901 4. Philipp * Klek 1899/1900, + Klek 22.01.1901 5. Maria * Klek 19.04.1902, + Klek 13.06.1910 6. Anna * Klek 07.09.1903, oo Johannes Wester ( 1358 A ) Hans Repp: Fb Klek 0300 0499 C Grösser Nikolaus,Sv. Johannes G. und Susanna Krettler * Klek 03.07.1887, Wo: Klek 102 oo Klek 30.01.1913, Tz: Lorenz Potje/Johannes Repp Kutscher Katharina, Tv. Kaspar K. und Katharina Jerch * Neuburg an der Bega 02.10.1893, Wo: Neuburg a.d. Bega (Ujvar) 1. Anna * Klek 15.03.1917, + Klek 04.12.1918 2. Nikolaus * Klek 15.12.1918, + Klek 14.08.1932 3. Maria * 15.02.1919, - Klek 16.02.1919, Tp: Michael Hoffmann/Margaretha Grösser 4. Josef * 08.02.1921, - Klek 13.02.1921, Tp: Josef Potje/Anna Grösser 5 .Maria * 12.09.1922, - Klek 10.12.1922, Tp: Johannes Endres/Maria Merle 6. Marianna * Klek 03.09.1923 Hans Repp: Fb Klek 0301   0500 Grösser Franz ( 0495.1 ) * 30.12.1818 Klek / Laz. oo 1836 ?  + 1844 ? Kohl Theresia ( 0909.4 ) * 01.10.1818 Kkl. 1. Johann * 24.12.1836 Kkl. 2. Elisabeth * 10.04.1838 Kkl. 3. Rosalia * 23.11.1840 Kkl.  + 30.07.1896, led. Nbg. 4. Johann * 25.08.1845 Kkl. Anm.: Bei der Geburt von Johann * 25.08.1845 wird die Mutter Theresia Kohl als Witwe bezeichnet. 2. Ehe der Witwe: oo 1849 ? Laz.: Christof Röhrich ( 1479 ) 0501 Grösser Jakob ( 0497.1 ) * 16.01.1821 Klek / Laz. oo 1840 ? Wiener Anna 1. Franz * 16.01.1841 Kkl. 0502 Grösser Johann in Klek oo Stumpf Sabina 1. Josef * 14.11.1843 Kkl. 2. Johann * 24.04.1845 Kkl. 3. Mathias * 01.08.1847 Kkl. 0503 Grösser Josef ( 0496.2 ) * 01.01.1823 Kkl. oo 1843 ? Scheurich Barbara ( 1545.1 ) * 04.08.1825 1. Elisabeth * 13.06.1844 2. Barbara * 12.12.1846 Kkl. 3. Nikolaus * 06.03.1849 0504 Grösser Anna, ledig ( 495.5 ) * 22.10.1828 Kkl. o-o 1. Magdalena * 01.03.1846 Kkl. 0504 A Grösser Jakob, Sv. * Ernsthausen 1837, Wo: Klek 24 oo Walzer Anna, Tv. Kaspar W. und Katharina Tolwik(Tulwich), ( 1965.6 ) * Klek 23.11.1842, Wo: Klek 150, + Klek 18.05.1912 1. Katharina * Klek 14.08.1876, oo Mathias Behr ( 0095 A ) Hans Repp:Fb Klek 0287 ________________________________ From: robin pruter <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 3:48 AM Subject: [BANAT-L] Rehling or Grosser in Klek Looking for any information on the Rehling and Grosser families in Klek. My 2x great grandfather, Mathias Rehling was born there in 1868. His parents were Mathias Rehling (b. 1827?) and Magdalena Grosser. Robin Pruter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/05/2014 10:48:47
    1. [BANAT-L] Rehling or Grosser in Klek
    2. robin pruter
    3. Looking for any information on the Rehling and Grosser families in Klek. My 2x great grandfather, Mathias Rehling was born there in 1868. His parents were Mathias Rehling (b. 1827?) and Magdalena Grosser. Robin Pruter

    04/05/2014 09:48:54
    1. [BANAT-L] Kittl and Bering, Dama family
    2. brenda bering
    3. I was wondering if someone could help me find the Schneider/Kittl, Bering, and Dama families. Can someone please look the Schneider/Kittl family up in Giera I am looking for Nicholas Schneider born March 1856 married Frances Kittl born 1854 There children are: Katie born 1880 in Gros Scengony Nani born in 1882 in Giera Johann born march 7, 1884 in Giera He took on the name Kittl He married Magdelena Knapp daughter of Nicholas and Christina Knapp Kathi born March 5, 1886 in Gier, married a Koller Anna born June 22, 1990 Nicholas Bering information: Looking for Johann Bering and Rosina Dama There children are: John, Vincent, George, Joseph, Susan, Katie, Mary, Eva, Katharine, and Adam They are from Lazarfeld, Hungary Can you please look the Dama family up in Klek Rosina Dama had two brother Matthew and John. I was wondering if I could have the complete family listing on Wenzel Dama and Anne Maria Brech and their children and who Wenzel's parents are I have a family member who says that his great great grandpa (George Dama) and Rosina's dad(Wenzel Dama)were brothers. Could I please have information on their parents. George had a son named Peter who had a son named Anton who had a son name Nicholas Thanks for taking the time to help me find these family members, it is so appreciated. Brenda

    04/05/2014 05:27:49
    1. Re: [BANAT-L] Angner--Burger Families
    2. Diana
    3. Hi Anne, I have the family books for Bogarosch and Grabatz which feature the ANGNER family and will scan the relevant pages for you tomorrow. Diana -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [BANAT-L] Angner--Burger Families Will someone kindly do a look-up for me or give me a clue about where I can research these families: Lorenz Angner - B. 1881 in Neusiedel MT: Marion Burger B. 1887 in Lowrin They had a daughter Franziska B.1906 in Lowrin and possibly a son. Even the smallest hint of anyone in these families would be greatly appreciated. This is truly a brick wall which I have been faced with for many years. Many thanks, Anne in Philadelphia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/05/2014 04:53:29
    1. [BANAT-L] Fwd: Lazarfeld
    2. ----- Forwarded Message ----- Subject: Lazarfeld My great grandfather Johann Engel  was born in Lazarfeld ,he was born Jan1845,I was told his fathers name was also Johann Engel,little is known about the family as he was made to leave home at age of 13.His mother had died and stepmother did not want him to feed so he had to leave,sad.He married Regina Gaschna in 1869,They lived in Ernsthausen before coming to US. to  Lefor,  ND area I would appreciate if someone could find some info  from Lazarfeld book.I was hoping to find more Engels or his mothers family. I do not read German ,so I am a loss,just understand some symbols   Trying to find out more on Gaschna  family . I ,believe they are in Josefsdorf ,  Ernsthausen and or Bakowa.So far I do not know any of GGrandmothers parents or siblings. Thank you , Dolores Fiechtner

    04/05/2014 03:22:54
    1. Re: [BANAT-L] Kittl and Bering, Dama family KLEK
    2. Paul Clark
    3. Dama   0239 Dama,Jakob, Sv: Aracourt 1740 verm. 1746  + 24.03.1784 Tr. oo Mercydorf 11.05.1771 Lenoire Maria Anna, Wwe Vaxy1749 = nv Chateau Salins/Lothringen + 15.01.1797 Tr. Philipp Lung : FB Rudolfsgnad   0239A Dama ( Damas ) Johann Stephan, Sv Jakob D. u. Maria Anna Lenoire * 14.01.1779 Triebswetter oo 27.05.1800 Shu. Tz: Ludwig Colleng u. Peter Rusel Colin ( Coleng, Kollen ) Tv Johann Ludwig C. u. Katharina Lavieile * 23.02.1784 Cha. 1. Maria * 07.04.1801 Cha. oo Franz Fingerhut ( 0383 ) 2. Joh. Claud. * 11.01.1803 Cha. + 24.01.1824, ledig 3. Jakob * 08.05.1807 Laz. + 03.09.1831 4. Johann * 04.05.1809  + 04.08.1809 5. Maria Anna * 30.06.1810  + 20.10.1811 6. Wenzeslaus * 30.08.1812  + 13.06.1813 7. Wenzeslaus * 20.07.1814  + 07.09.1898 Sig ( 0240 ) 8. Margaretha  * 1816 ? + 15.01.1823, 6 J. 9. Johann  * 21.06.1817 + 03.09.1831 10. Stephan * 1818 ? + 25.01.1820, 2 J. 11. Rosina * 20.11.1819 oo Joh. Pfeifer ( 1321 ) 12. Anna * 10.03.1821 13. Rosina * 21.09.1823 14. Magdalena * 06.02.1826 oo Johann Deutsch ( 0268 ) 15. Maria Anna * 28.11.1827 Josef Kühn: Fb. Saint Hubert-Charleville-Soltur 0529. 1706.1 Lothar Renard: OSB Triebswetter 0508 ( P C Ausdruck ) Dr. med. Helmut Zwirner: Die Besiedlung von Lazarfeld Seite 180   0240 Dama Wenzeslaus ( 0239.7 ) * 20.07.1814 + 07.09.1898 Sig. oo 1836 ? Brech Anna Maria, Tv Franz Josef B. u. A. Maria Henfreund * 28.03.1818 DEL.  + 23.04.1903 Sig. 1. Magdalena * 21.12.1836 + 24.05.1896 Nbg.187 oo 1856 ? oo Jakob Sehr 2. Elisabeth * 11.11.1838 3. Johann * 27.06.1840 4. Stefan * 05.10.1841 oo 1868 ? Rud.: Anna Bartl, Rudolfsgnad 5. Magdalena * 05.03.1844 6. Anna Maria * 24.02.1846 7. Rosina * 20.12.1847 8. Jakob * 21.12.1849 9. Johann * 27.07.1851 10. Georg * (1860) Josef Kühn: Fb. Neuburg an der Bega ( Uivar ) 1192 Philipp Lung: Fb. Deutsch-Etschka-Sigmundfeld-Rudolfsgnad 0481, 0198 0241 Damian Joseph, Schneider ________________________________ From: brenda bering <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, April 5, 2014 10:27 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] Kittl and Bering, Dama family I was wondering if someone could help me find the Schneider/Kittl, Bering, and Dama families. Can someone please look the Schneider/Kittl family up in Giera I am looking for Nicholas Schneider born March 1856 married Frances Kittl born 1854 There children are:                                                 Katie born 1880 in Gros Scengony                                                 Nani born in 1882 in Giera                                                 Johann born march 7, 1884 in Giera  He took on the name Kittl  He married Magdelena Knapp daughter of Nicholas and Christina Knapp                                                 Kathi born March 5, 1886 in Gier, married a Koller                                                 Anna born June 22, 1990                                                 Nicholas Bering information:  Looking for Johann Bering and Rosina Dama  There children are:          John, Vincent, George, Joseph, Susan, Katie, Mary, Eva, Katharine, and Adam They are from Lazarfeld, Hungary Can you please look the Dama family up in Klek Rosina Dama had two brother Matthew and John.  I was wondering if I could have the complete family listing on Wenzel Dama and Anne Maria Brech and their children and who Wenzel's parents are I have a family member who says that his great great grandpa (George Dama) and Rosina's dad(Wenzel Dama)were brothers.  Could I please have information on their parents. George had a son named Peter who had a son named Anton who had a  son name Nicholas   Thanks for taking the time to help me find these family members, it is so appreciated. Brenda                                ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/05/2014 03:12:26
    1. Re: [BANAT-L] Fwd: Lazarfeld
    2. Paul Clark
    3. Hello,  Not seeing Johann Engel in the Lazarfeld/Klek book..   He is in the http://www.banatbooks.com/FamilyRegister.htm   Elisenhein Josefsdorf information on page 85 at http://www.banatbooks.com/ and indicates of Lazarfeld.   Regina Gaschna is indicated to be of Kathreinfeld.  I have that book also, but not seeing her in the Kathreinfeld book.   Paul Quentin Clark    ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, April 5, 2014 4:22 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] Fwd: Lazarfeld ----- Forwarded Message ----- Subject: Lazarfeld My great grandfather Johann Engel  was born in Lazarfeld ,he was born Jan1845,I was told his fathers name was also Johann Engel,little is known about the family as he was made to leave home at age of 13.His mother had died and stepmother did not want him to feed so he had to leave,sad.He married Regina Gaschna in 1869,They lived in Ernsthausen before coming to US. to  Lefor,  ND area I would appreciate if someone could find some info  from Lazarfeld book.I was hoping to find more Engels or his mothers family. I do not read German ,so I am a loss,just understand some symbols   Trying to find out more on Gaschna  family . I ,believe they are in Josefsdorf ,  Ernsthausen and or Bakowa.So far I do not know any of GGrandmothers parents or siblings. Thank you , Dolores Fiechtner ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/05/2014 10:13:59
    1. [BANAT-L] Angner--Burger Families
    2. Will someone kindly do a look-up for me or give me a clue about where I can research these families: Lorenz Angner - B. 1881 in Neusiedel MT: Marion Burger B. 1887 in Lowrin They had a daughter Franziska B.1906 in Lowrin and possibly a son. Even the smallest hint of anyone in these families would be greatly appreciated. This is truly a brick wall which I have been faced with for many years. Many thanks, Anne in Philadelphia

    04/05/2014 08:21:16
    1. [BANAT-L] New book of maps
    2. Marilyn McClaskey
    3. A book perhaps of interest to some on this list if you are not already aware of it: Changing Ethnic Patterns of the Carpatho-Pannonian Area by Kocsis Karoly, Tatrai Patrik and others. HAS RCAES Geographical Institute. ISBN 978-963-9545-38-0 Budapest, 2012. Many maps tracking the changes from 1435 to present and an accompanying booklet. In English and (Hungarian?--I've sent it on and did not look closely). Marilyn McClaskey Rare Books Cataloger University of Minnesota Libraries [email protected] (612) 626-0127

    04/02/2014 12:11:01
    1. [BANAT-L] German migration to Southeastern Europe
    2. Dave Dreyer
    3. A groups of museums from Germany, Hungary, Romania and Serbia have put together a traveling exhibit on the migration of Germans to Southeastern Europe. Aa illustrated catalogue of the exhibit can be found on the website, danube-places.eu and is available in an English version. Dave Dreyer

    04/02/2014 11:06:38
    1. Re: [BANAT-L] Changing of the Guard
    2. Stasa Cvetkovic
    3. I am sorry to hear about Mr. Herold's loss! My condolences to the children, grandchildren and of course, Mr. Herold! I have read "She loved gardening, the arts, animals, traveling, motorcycles, reading and her friends and family." Who would not love a girl like that? :) RIP Mrs.Adele. Staša On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:19 AM, Marilyn McClaskey <[email protected]> wrote: > Dave, > > Thank you very much for this history of Banat-L. I am so sorry to > read of Mr. Herold's loss; my condolences to all who know him and > knew his wife. > > I subscribed in 2008 but have never posted before. My grandparents, > Johann and Maria-Anna (Muller) Hochban emigrated from Zichydorf by > the ship Amerika, landing at Ellis Island on Nov. 22, 1908, with baby > Emilia in tow. On Nov. 22, 2008, several of my family made a > pilgrimage to Ellis Island to remember them. > > The information on the internet is amazing; I thank all those on this > list who have contributed to it, most especially, this week, the > Zichydorf Familiendaten where I found these relatives listed with > links and relationships I did not know before. And this morning > internet exploration with my morning coffee of the Pannonian Basin > (after finding a wine from the Banat with the brand Pannonian). The > rich history and maps of the Banat were very hard to access before > Wikipedia and other resources. I also appreciate the wonderful > travel advice from Charlie Tiller a few weeks ago--who is in St. Paul! > > Marilyn Hochban McClaskey > St Paul/Minneapolis/Orono > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Stasa Cvetkovic* *http://www.synergia.rs/ <http://www.synergia.rs/>* *Tel/fax: +381 21 553 265* *Mobile: +381 62 598 517* *Novi Sad, Serbia* *Visit our webpage <http://www.synergia.rs/>*

    04/02/2014 02:49:01
    1. Re: [BANAT-L] Changing of the Guard
    2. Marilyn McClaskey
    3. Dave, Thank you very much for this history of Banat-L. I am so sorry to read of Mr. Herold's loss; my condolences to all who know him and knew his wife. I subscribed in 2008 but have never posted before. My grandparents, Johann and Maria-Anna (Muller) Hochban emigrated from Zichydorf by the ship Amerika, landing at Ellis Island on Nov. 22, 1908, with baby Emilia in tow. On Nov. 22, 2008, several of my family made a pilgrimage to Ellis Island to remember them. The information on the internet is amazing; I thank all those on this list who have contributed to it, most especially, this week, the Zichydorf Familiendaten where I found these relatives listed with links and relationships I did not know before. And this morning internet exploration with my morning coffee of the Pannonian Basin (after finding a wine from the Banat with the brand Pannonian). The rich history and maps of the Banat were very hard to access before Wikipedia and other resources. I also appreciate the wonderful travel advice from Charlie Tiller a few weeks ago--who is in St. Paul! Marilyn Hochban McClaskey St Paul/Minneapolis/Orono

    04/01/2014 12:19:45
    1. Re: [BANAT-L] [DS] Changing of the Guard
    2. Rosina
    3. Thank you, Dave Dreyer, For giving us the information on Steve's Adele passing away. This will be truly a great loss to STEVE HEROLD. We/I are sorry to hear that Steve will no longer look after this nifty genealogical website. Our/my greatest THANK-YOU for all his great contributions. We for sure will miss Steve, even though he looked after us only from afar in the last few years. Its wonderful, though, that DAVID PRESTON will take over looking also after the Banat-L with all his other great DS computer involvement. Glad to have you, David Preston! Kind regards, Rosina T. Schmidt www.hrastovac.net On 04012014AD--, at 3:13 20000PM, Dave Dreyer wrote: > Our Banat Mailing List, administrator/owner, Steve Herold, has suffered a devastating loss. > The recent sad news of the death by cancer of Steve's wife Adele (geb. Biel), has now come to us. Theirs was a late marriage of five years of fellow Banaters. See, > http://bismarckfuneralhome.com/obituaries/adele-lindsay/ > > One can imagine this has effected Steve's life to a profound degree. Steve says it is time to give up management of the Banat List. Arrangements have been made to turn list management over to David Preston, who has the creation of a number of Banat themed websites to his credit. > Steve not only managed the Banat list but is largely responsible for establishing the traditional annual meeting of Banaters in Mt Angel Oregon. > Steve's passion, aside from promoting the list, was Banat/German food and other cultural matters. Back and forth list discussions of food tended to be lengthy with Steve taking a major roll. > > The Banat List was established by Robert Madler when internet access for most people was relatively rare. The first entry in the Banat list archives is dated 1980. In the initial years there were only a few messages each month. By 1997 100-200 messages/month were being processed and there were about 300 subscribers. > In May 1997 Bob gave up the List management and turned the job over to Chris Lammesfeld. Chris, in turn, transferred, the list management over to Steve about 2004. > One sometimes forgets how far we have come and how little access we had to firm information in the early days. Many messages in the early days centered around unscrambling mangled spelling of Banat place names. Due to the lack of family books few inquiries resulted in a supply of solid family data or a solution to family history problems. In this early period one has the impression that the North Dakota Banaters were the main drivers of the list. In this early period there was a cadre of dual language participants who had first hand knowledge of the old country. Some names which come to mind, were Rick Heli(Mountain View, California), Uwe Morres(Heidelburg), Monika Ferrier(Siebenburgen authority), Franz Quint(now Professor of Information Theory at Technical Hochschule Karlsruhe) , Sue Clarkson(author of the Johannisfeld Family book), Tom Schneider, Robert Zink and likely others who I've momentarily forgotten. These experts helped give a sense of authority to the list. > As time went on list members developed contacts and friendships with German and Romanian researchers and research organizations. These contacts were facilitated by communication through the list and sometimes resulted in acquisition of Banat records from Romanian and Serb archives. Presently the number of subscribers to the list fall in the range of 500-600 members > Dave Dreyer > > > . > _______________________________________________ > Donauschwaben-L mailing list > [email protected] > http://list.genealogy.net/mm/listinfo/donauschwaben-l

    04/01/2014 10:52:44
    1. [BANAT-L] Changing of the Guard
    2. Dave Dreyer
    3. Our Banat Mailing List, administrator/owner, Steve Herold, has suffered a devastating loss. The recent sad news of the death by cancer of Steve's wife Adele (geb. Biel), has now come to us. Theirs was a late marriage of five years of fellow Banaters. See, http://bismarckfuneralhome.com/obituaries/adele-lindsay/ One can imagine this has effected Steve's life to a profound degree. Steve says it is time to give up management of the Banat List. Arrangements have been made to turn list management over to David Preston, who has the creation of a number of Banat themed websites to his credit. Steve not only managed the Banat list but is largely responsible for establishing the traditional annual meeting of Banaters in Mt Angel Oregon. Steve's passion, aside from promoting the list, was Banat/German food and other cultural matters. Back and forth list discussions of food tended to be lengthy with Steve taking a major roll. The Banat List was established by Robert Madler when internet access for most people was relatively rare. The first entry in the Banat list archives is dated 1980. In the initial years there were only a few messages each month. By 1997 100-200 messages/month were being processed and there were about 300 subscribers. In May 1997 Bob gave up the List management and turned the job over to Chris Lammesfeld. Chris, in turn, transferred, the list management over to Steve about 2004. One sometimes forgets how far we have come and how little access we had to firm information in the early days. Many messages in the early days centered around unscrambling mangled spelling of Banat place names. Due to the lack of family books few inquiries resulted in a supply of solid family data or a solution to family history problems. In this early period one has the impression that the North Dakota Banaters were the main drivers of the list. In this early period there was a cadre of dual language participants who had first hand knowledge of the old country. Some names which come to mind, were Rick Heli(Mountain View, California), Uwe Morres(Heidelburg), Monika Ferrier(Siebenburgen authority), Franz Quint(now Professor of Information Theory at Technical Hochschule Karlsruhe) , Sue Clarkson(author of the Johannisfeld Family book), Tom Schneider, Robert Zink and likely others who I've momentarily forgotten. These experts helped give a sense of authority to the list. As time went on list members developed contacts and friendships with German and Romanian researchers and research organizations. These contacts were facilitated by communication through the list and sometimes resulted in acquisition of Banat records from Romanian and Serb archives. Presently the number of subscribers to the list fall in the range of 500-600 members Dave Dreyer .

    04/01/2014 09:13:20
    1. [BANAT-L] brickwall: looking for Elisabeth Stephania Kaiser
    2. Amanda Kaiser
    3. Hi all, I am having trouble finding my great aunty and her brothers. I was wondering if anyone could please help locate her. I am hoping she is possibly still alive. The details I have been able to find are:- Born: Elisabeth Stephania Kaiser in 1934. Town born: Grob Betschkerek Parents: Magdalena (Gangl) & Nikolaus Kaiser Siblings: 1. Franz Kaiser b: 1924 d: 1969 2. Stephan kaiser b: 1926 (no other info) 3. Nikolaus Kaiser b: 1928 (no other info) 4. Mathias Kaiser b: 1930 (no other info) My great grandmother Magdalena died in 1944 in grob betschkerek. I have records that say my great grandfather Nikolaus lived in Steyr, Austria in 1948. He was a witness for my grandad's wedding. This is the brick wall I have come to and can't find any information after 1948. I don't know what Elisabeth's married name would be. If you could hep in finding my great aunty or her brothers I would be forever grateful! Thankyou Mandy from Australia This message is confidential and may contain proprietary or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, any use, interference with, disclosure or copying of the email or any part thereof (including any attachment), is prohibited and you should notify the sender and delete this email immediately. To the fullest extent permitted by law the Gordon accepts no liability for any loss or damage which may result from your receipt of this message or any attachments.

    03/31/2014 07:04:04
    1. Re: [BANAT-L] [DS] Revised Eleisehain-Josefsdorf-North Dakota family register
    2. Dave Dreyer
    3. To John and all the others who are crowding my inbox. Apparently a auto correct feature took over the link to the file. It should be http://www.banatbooks.com/FamilyRegister.htm Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Dreyer" <[email protected]> To: "Banat List" <[email protected]>; "Donauschwaben-L" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: [DS] Revised Eleisehain-Josefsdorf-North Dakota family register A corrected, expanded version of the Josefsdorf-North Dakota family register has, thanks to David Preston, been posted at http://www.boathooks.com/FamilyRegister.htm This new version contains 40-50 pages of new data on North Dakota-Montana Banaters. Dave Dreyer _______________________________________________ Donauschwaben-L mailing list [email protected] http://list.genealogy.net/mm/listinfo/donauschwaben-l

    03/30/2014 02:42:27