Thank you so much Karen! Amazing. Yes, I have the Deutsch-Zerne books. What I didn't know was the death date for Peter Oster and also that he had two more children. I am also helping a woman in Wisconsin who is a descendant of Peter Oster. She did know any of this. So, two people are happy today. Robert -----Original Message----- From: Karen Dalton Preston Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:04 PM To: Robert Evensen Cc: BANAT List Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Einhameyer, Hungary Hi Robert, After reading Ricardo's reply, I thought that the place name may have been mis-transcribed, and that is, in fact, the problem. The manifest says that Elisabeth OSTER is living in Emilienmajor, the Hungarian version of Emilienhof, near Molidorf. I found Elisabeth in the Molidorf Familienbuch: #O-014 OSTER (OSZTER) Peter *ca. 1847 Lenauheim, living in Toba +06.10.1908 Emilienhof, age 61 (so, the family is shown as living in Emilienhof the year after the manifest date) oo UNGER (UNGAR) Elisabeth children: 1. Josef *02.05.1886 Karolinenhof oo Elis. SZOMOCU, 07.01.1912 [place of marriage not stated] 2. Johann Peter *02.05.1889 Karolinenhof Do you have the D Zerne books? If, not, I can send you that info as well. Best, --Karen On Jul 3, 2014, at 11:33 AM, "Robert Evensen" <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Ricardo for your help. I will have to give this more thought as to > what the correct spelling may be. She was from Deutsch-Zerne, but > obviously moved to another village. > > Robert > > From: Ricardo Hein > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:26 AM > To: Robert Evensen > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Einhameyer, Hungary > > Robert > > that name is a mistake, misspelling... > > don´t waste too much time > > banater Ortschaften startin with "E" are only a few > > no one similar to that one > > town ending in *meyer I cannot find anything > > try another way or thread to leran where Elisabeth Oster was living at > that time > > regards > > > > > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Robert Evensen <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I am trying to find the location (current name) for Einhameyer, Hungary. > It is cited in the ship manifest below. Thanks. Robert > > OSTER Heinrich -[O236]- Age: 38 -From: Zerne (D) > -DtAr: Monday, 8 Mar 1909 - To: Kenosha, WI -Via: Ant/Sj -Ship: Mt Temple > -Note: Accompanied by wife, Anna 37 and kids, Josef 9 and Anna 8, all > born in Zerne. Mother, Elisabeth Oster, lives in Einhameyer Hungary. Going > to join brother-in-law, Peter Pfeiffer. Canadian border crossing record. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Robert, After reading Ricardo's reply, I thought that the place name may have been mis-transcribed, and that is, in fact, the problem. The manifest says that Elisabeth OSTER is living in Emilienmajor, the Hungarian version of Emilienhof, near Molidorf. I found Elisabeth in the Molidorf Familienbuch: #O-014 OSTER (OSZTER) Peter *ca. 1847 Lenauheim, living in Toba +06.10.1908 Emilienhof, age 61 (so, the family is shown as living in Emilienhof the year after the manifest date) oo UNGER (UNGAR) Elisabeth children: 1. Josef *02.05.1886 Karolinenhof oo Elis. SZOMOCU, 07.01.1912 [place of marriage not stated] 2. Johann Peter *02.05.1889 Karolinenhof Do you have the D Zerne books? If, not, I can send you that info as well. Best, --Karen On Jul 3, 2014, at 11:33 AM, "Robert Evensen" <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Ricardo for your help. I will have to give this more thought as to what the correct spelling may be. She was from Deutsch-Zerne, but obviously moved to another village. > > Robert > > From: Ricardo Hein > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:26 AM > To: Robert Evensen > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Einhameyer, Hungary > > Robert > > that name is a mistake, misspelling... > > don´t waste too much time > > banater Ortschaften startin with "E" are only a few > > no one similar to that one > > town ending in *meyer I cannot find anything > > try another way or thread to leran where Elisabeth Oster was living at that time > > regards > > > > > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Robert Evensen <[email protected]> wrote: > > I am trying to find the location (current name) for Einhameyer, Hungary. It is cited in the ship manifest below. Thanks. Robert > > OSTER Heinrich -[O236]- Age: 38 -From: Zerne (D) > -DtAr: Monday, 8 Mar 1909 - To: Kenosha, WI -Via: Ant/Sj -Ship: Mt Temple > -Note: Accompanied by wife, Anna 37 and kids, Josef 9 and Anna 8, all born in Zerne. Mother, Elisabeth Oster, lives in Einhameyer Hungary. Going to join brother-in-law, Peter Pfeiffer. Canadian border crossing record. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Ricardo for your help. I will have to give this more thought as to what the correct spelling may be. She was from Deutsch-Zerne, but obviously moved to another village. Robert From: Ricardo Hein Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:26 AM To: Robert Evensen Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Einhameyer, Hungary Robert that name is a mistake, misspelling... don´t waste too much time banater Ortschaften startin with "E" are only a few no one similar to that one town ending in *meyer I cannot find anything try another way or thread to leran where Elisabeth Oster was living at that time regards On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Robert Evensen <[email protected]> wrote: I am trying to find the location (current name) for Einhameyer, Hungary. It is cited in the ship manifest below. Thanks. Robert OSTER Heinrich -[O236]- Age: 38 -From: Zerne (D) -DtAr: Monday, 8 Mar 1909 - To: Kenosha, WI -Via: Ant/Sj -Ship: Mt Temple -Note: Accompanied by wife, Anna 37 and kids, Josef 9 and Anna 8, all born in Zerne. Mother, Elisabeth Oster, lives in Einhameyer Hungary. Going to join brother-in-law, Peter Pfeiffer. Canadian border crossing record. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am trying to find the location (current name) for Einhameyer, Hungary. It is cited in the ship manifest below. Thanks. Robert OSTER Heinrich -[O236]- Age: 38 -From: Zerne (D) -DtAr: Monday, 8 Mar 1909 - To: Kenosha, WI -Via: Ant/Sj -Ship: Mt Temple -Note: Accompanied by wife, Anna 37 and kids, Josef 9 and Anna 8, all born in Zerne. Mother, Elisabeth Oster, lives in Einhameyer Hungary. Going to join brother-in-law, Peter Pfeiffer. Canadian border crossing record.

Hello Danube Swabian Family Forschers, As per this article the year 1540 was the hottest yet in Europe: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10584-014-1184-2 So even if it is now quite summerly in your town, at least we can sympathize with our ancestors. See you in Mt. Angel, Oregon, Rosina T. Schmidt www.hrastovac.net

Hi Robert, The Hatzfeld Familienbuch ends with 1866, so Franz Andres won't be included. The Hornungs (authors of the D Zerne Fb) are working on a new book for Hatzfeld which will incorporate later records. Best, --Karen Best, --Karen On Jun 28, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Robert Evensen <[email protected]> wrote: > I am seeking information on Franz Andres married to Elisabeth Oster. Both may be from Hatzfeld. He is born about 1881. Father is Alois Andres. > > Thanks, > Robert Evensen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am seeking information on Franz Andres married to Elisabeth Oster. Both may be from Hatzfeld. He is born about 1881. Father is Alois Andres. Thanks, Robert Evensen

Tom, If I have it right there are no Setschan birth records up to ca 1850. In any event there is no Johann Schmidt in the Setschan family book. In the Kl Betschkerek family book there is Katharina Leicht, dau of Mathias Leicht and Anastasia Sander *15.01.1811 Kl Betschkerek Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Makkos" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 10:37 AM Subject: [BANAT-L] Schmidt (Setschan) und Leicht (Klein-Betschkererk) Liebe Liste / Dear List, ich suche die Heirats- und Geburtsdaten von: i?m looking for the marriage and birth data of: * * *Johann**Schmidt * * 1811 Széscan (Setschan) ? + 01.08.1855 Offsenitz, <> 03.08.1855 Offsenitz, 44 Jahre (Years) oo 1830 Setschan ? Klein-Betschkerek ? *Catharina Leicht * * 1804 Klein-Betschkerek ? + 16.12.1872 Offsenitz, <> 17.12.1872 Offsenitz, 68 Jahre (Years) it would be great, if someone has information to this family and the ancestors. Es wäre schön, wenn jemand Daten zur Familie und deren Vorfahren hat. best regards from Augsburg Tom -- ---------------------------------- Thomas Makkos Hegelstr. 46 86167 Augsburg ---------------------------------- Email: [email protected] ---------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Liebe Liste / Dear List, ich suche die Heirats- und Geburtsdaten von: i?m looking for the marriage and birth data of: * * *Johann**Schmidt * * 1811 Széscan (Setschan) ? + 01.08.1855 Offsenitz, <> 03.08.1855 Offsenitz, 44 Jahre (Years) oo 1830 Setschan ? Klein-Betschkerek ? *Catharina Leicht * * 1804 Klein-Betschkerek ? + 16.12.1872 Offsenitz, <> 17.12.1872 Offsenitz, 68 Jahre (Years) it would be great, if someone has information to this family and the ancestors. Es wäre schön, wenn jemand Daten zur Familie und deren Vorfahren hat. best regards from Augsburg Tom -- ---------------------------------- Thomas Makkos Hegelstr. 46 86167 Augsburg ---------------------------------- Email: [email protected] ----------------------------------

Liebe Liste / Dear List, ich suche die Heirats- und Geburtsdaten von: i?m looking for the marriage and birth data of: * * *Martin Palczer * * 1804 Stefansfeld? + 30.01.1866 Offsenitz, <> 31.01.1866 Offsenitz, 62 Jahre (Years) oo Stefansfeld ? *Catharina Ruck * * 1803 Lovrin? + 21.05.1860 Offsenitz, <> 22.05.1860 Offsenitz, 57 Jahre (Years) it would be great, if someone has information to this family and the ancestors. Es wäre schön, wenn jemand Daten zur Familie und deren Vorfahren hat. best regards from Augsburg Tom

Hi Tom, >From the Familienbuch Stephansfeld, by Hans Awender: #9.005,0 BALTZ (BALTZER, PALTZER) Martin, Sv Valentin BALZEr (BALTZER) u. Anna Margaretha WAIDER *16.08.1808 Stefansfeld oo 01.05.1825 Stefansfeld RUCK Katharina (no parents or date of birth given) 10 children born in Stefansfeld >From the Lowrin Fb, by Nikolaus Schauermann, - there is only one Katharina RUCK born in Lowrin in this timeframe: #1778.6 RUCK, Katharina, Tv Mathias RUCK (RUK) u. Katharina KUZMAN *14.06.1808 Off-list, I will send you images of the Stefansfeld Familienbuch pages with the list of his children and more information on the parents of Martin. Best regards, --Karen On Jun 28, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Thomas Makkos <[email protected]> wrote: > Liebe Liste / Dear List, > > ich suche die Heirats- und Geburtsdaten von: > i?m looking for the marriage and birth data of: > > * > * > > *Martin Palczer * > * 1804 Stefansfeld? > + 30.01.1866 Offsenitz, <> 31.01.1866 Offsenitz, 62 Jahre (Years) > > oo Stefansfeld ? > > *Catharina Ruck * > * 1803 Lovrin? > > + 21.05.1860 Offsenitz, <> 22.05.1860 Offsenitz, 57 Jahre (Years) > > > it would be great, if someone has information to this family and the > ancestors. > Es wäre schön, wenn jemand Daten zur Familie und deren Vorfahren hat. > > > > best regards from Augsburg > Tom

Thom, I do not find a Palczer(or any other reasonable spelling varient) entry in the Stefansfeld family book. Of course there are considrable gaps in the available Stefansfeld records. The Lowrin family book lists Ruck Katharina, dau of Mathias Ruck and Katharina Kuzman *14.06.1808 Lowrin Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Makkos" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 10:28 AM Subject: [DS] Palczer / Ruck in Stefansfeld und Lovrin Liebe Liste / Dear List, ich suche die Heirats- und Geburtsdaten von: i?m looking for the marriage and birth data of: * * *Martin Palczer * * 1804 Stefansfeld? + 30.01.1866 Offsenitz, <> 31.01.1866 Offsenitz, 62 Jahre (Years) oo Stefansfeld ? *Catharina Ruck * * 1803 Lovrin? + 21.05.1860 Offsenitz, <> 22.05.1860 Offsenitz, 57 Jahre (Years) it would be great, if someone has information to this family and the ancestors. Es wäre schön, wenn jemand Daten zur Familie und deren Vorfahren hat. best regards from Augsburg Tom _______________________________________________ Donauschwaben-L mailing list [email protected] http://list.genealogy.net/mm/listinfo/donauschwaben-l

HAPPY CANADA DAY (July 1st) to our Canadian 'Cousins'! See you in Mt. Angel, Oregon, this September 11th, Rosina T. Schmidt www.hrastovac.net www.danube-swabians.org/MtAngel

Dear List users, After approximately a week of being off-line, the Banat-L mailing list is back! In case you did not know, all of AncestryDotCom suffered what is called a Distributed Denial of Attack (DDOA). This is caused by hacker(s) repeatedly sending hundreds of thousands of requests per second to the Ancestry servers in an attempt to “swamp” the Servers, thus crashing them. The list servers were the last area that Ancestry worked on to restore, and they are all now stable. It would appear that no messages were lost. With kind regards, David Preston Banat List Administrator

Would anyone happen to have recently purchased a "Mein liebes Donauschwabenland" & "Heimatgrüße Walzer" 7" record from eBay ([email protected])? If so, I was wondering if there's any way you could tell me whether or not those songs have lyrics. Our director's part has "gesang" marked at the trio. Anyway, the Cleveland Donauschwäbische Blaskapelle is rehearsing both "Mein liebes Donauschwabenland" and "Heimatgrüße Walzer" for the upcoming fest season, and would like to include the vocals, but unfortunately we don't have the lyrics. We were literally in the process of purchasing the record, but because of a bit of confusion on the seller's behalf (regarding shipping and payment, &c.) someone beat us to the punch, so to speak. Any assistance you would be willing to provide would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, John McClellan, Cleveland Donauschwäbische Blaskapelle ------------------------------ Original Message ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 11:34:34 +1000 From: Amanda Kaiser <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] "Mein liebes Donauschwabenland To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Is this it on ebay? ... you will have to copy and paste link to have a look http://de.picclick.com/DONAUSCHWABISCHE-KLANGE-7-GESPIELT-VON-DEN-KIRCHHEIMER-370811611456.html

I think you are referring to the Stader Books. Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Dreyer" <[email protected]> To: "Banat List" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 4:42:05 PM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] BANAT Digest, Vol 9, Issue 122 Roy Perhaps you are refering to "Quellen zur deutschen Siedlungsgeschichte in Suedosteuropa" Hundreds of copies of this publication on a CD were distributed to Banat list subscribers several years ago. I would imagine that everyone who had an interest in this area has a copy of the publication Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy W Shiflet" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] BANAT Digest, Vol 9, Issue 122 > Dave, What is the name of the series of books from Vienna that detail the > names of the individuals migrating. > I will be at the Library of Congress later this month and can do any look > up > for our guests > Roy Shiflet > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: 06/15/14 3:01 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: BANAT Digest, Vol 9, Issue 122 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Heimattag der Banater Schwaben 2014 (Dave Dreyer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 20:29:46 -0700 > From: "Dave Dreyer" <[email protected]> > Subject: [BANAT-L] Heimattag der Banater Schwaben 2014 > To: "Banat List" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Likely we have made our final pilgrimage to attend the Ulm Heimattag. > This > two day meeting held on Pfingsten weekend in Ulm, where many immigrants > to > SE Europe embarked for the downriver voyage on the Danube, brings together > Banaters from around the world every two years. The format of the meeting > followed roughly that of previous years with folk dancing by Banater > Trachten groups in the Ulm fussganger zone. A few hundred meters from the > dancing was St Pauls the parish church were many Banaters were married > before departing for the Banat. Only married adults were allowed to > migrate > and since the Ulm Muster was Protestant since the reformation, the > marriages > were preformed in this modest parish church. > At the conclusion of the dancing and lead by the Blast Kapelle, the > Trachten > groups formed a procession for the march to the Rathaus and to a reception > by the Oberburgermeister. After the reception the groups reformed and > with > the band leading marched down through the Altstadt to the Auswanderung > Denkmal on the Danube shore for the wreath laying ceremony. This was the > spot where migrants loaded aboard the barges for the Banat. > The inscription on the side of the Denkmal reads, > > Von Ulm aus zogen > Deutsche siedler, im > 18 Jahrhundert auf > der donau nach dem > sudosten Europas > > Jhre Nachfahren > kehrten vom schicksal > nach dem zweiten welt > Krieg aus ihrer Heimat > vertrieben in das land > ihrer vaters zurck > > In the evening there was a program of Donau Schwaben folk songs at the > Donau > Schwaben Zentral museum which is housed in one of the massive defensive > bastions of the former Ulm fortifications. Judging by the audience > reaction > the music program was a smashing hit. > Sunday's program at the Ulm fair grounds was mainly interesting for two > great halls of tables set up with each labeled with the name of a village > where one could meet ex neighbors and others from the home village. On > our > first attendance at the Heimattag 1996 it took seven large halls to hold > the > tables and the dense crowds, a clear sign of the passing of the older > generation. Indeed several old timers with whom I have had a long > standing > relationship and had hoped to share a beer with were not present-----a > pity > but perhaps not unexpected. > Unlike previous Heimattags, there were a striking number of information > tables in the foyer, representing everything from HOGs, book publishers, > including the AKdFF and AVBF as well as tourist authorities(Notably > Temeswar) among others. The multitude of Banater book publishers gives > the > impression that every other Banater must be busy writing up experiences in > the Banat, escape stories from Eastern Europe, composing novels or poetry > Another feature this year was a series of lectures on Banat topics which > included a lecture on beginning Banat family history research by AKdFF > chairman, Guenter Junkers. > The decreasing attendance at the Heimattag portends the day which will > certainly come all too soon which will force a change to this occasion, > possibly more from largely a social occasion to a more cultural or > scholarly > form. > Dave Dreyer > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BANAT list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the BANAT mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. > > > End of BANAT Digest, Vol 9, Issue 122 > ************************************* > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Roy.... I think you might be referring to the Stader Books or Wilhelm and Kallbrunner. (may have mispelled some of this). Both list the Vienna registers for those travelling to the Banat. The Stader series has additional reference bases. Rita > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 15:42:05 -0700 > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] BANAT Digest, Vol 9, Issue 122 > > Roy > Perhaps you are refering to "Quellen zur deutschen Siedlungsgeschichte in > Suedosteuropa" Hundreds of copies of this publication on a CD were > distributed to Banat list subscribers several years ago. I would imagine > that everyone who had an interest in this area has a copy of the publication > Dave Dreyer > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roy W Shiflet" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 8:40 AM > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] BANAT Digest, Vol 9, Issue 122 > > > > Dave, What is the name of the series of books from Vienna that detail the > > names of the individuals migrating. > > I will be at the Library of Congress later this month and can do any look > > up > > for our guests > > Roy Shiflet > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > > Behalf Of [email protected] > > Sent: 06/15/14 3:01 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: BANAT Digest, Vol 9, Issue 122 > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Heimattag der Banater Schwaben 2014 (Dave Dreyer) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 20:29:46 -0700 > > From: "Dave Dreyer" <[email protected]> > > Subject: [BANAT-L] Heimattag der Banater Schwaben 2014 > > To: "Banat List" <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Likely we have made our final pilgrimage to attend the Ulm Heimattag. > > This > > two day meeting held on Pfingsten weekend in Ulm, where many immigrants > > to > > SE Europe embarked for the downriver voyage on the Danube, brings together > > Banaters from around the world every two years. The format of the meeting > > followed roughly that of previous years with folk dancing by Banater > > Trachten groups in the Ulm fussganger zone. A few hundred meters from the > > dancing was St Pauls the parish church were many Banaters were married > > before departing for the Banat. Only married adults were allowed to > > migrate > > and since the Ulm Muster was Protestant since the reformation, the > > marriages > > were preformed in this modest parish church. > > At the conclusion of the dancing and lead by the Blast Kapelle, the > > Trachten > > groups formed a procession for the march to the Rathaus and to a reception > > by the Oberburgermeister. After the reception the groups reformed and > > with > > the band leading marched down through the Altstadt to the Auswanderung > > Denkmal on the Danube shore for the wreath laying ceremony. This was the > > spot where migrants loaded aboard the barges for the Banat. > > The inscription on the side of the Denkmal reads, > > > > Von Ulm aus zogen > > Deutsche siedler, im > > 18 Jahrhundert auf > > der donau nach dem > > sudosten Europas > > > > Jhre Nachfahren > > kehrten vom schicksal > > nach dem zweiten welt > > Krieg aus ihrer Heimat > > vertrieben in das land > > ihrer vaters zurck > > > > In the evening there was a program of Donau Schwaben folk songs at the > > Donau > > Schwaben Zentral museum which is housed in one of the massive defensive > > bastions of the former Ulm fortifications. Judging by the audience > > reaction > > the music program was a smashing hit. > > Sunday's program at the Ulm fair grounds was mainly interesting for two > > great halls of tables set up with each labeled with the name of a village > > where one could meet ex neighbors and others from the home village. On > > our > > first attendance at the Heimattag 1996 it took seven large halls to hold > > the > > tables and the dense crowds, a clear sign of the passing of the older > > generation. Indeed several old timers with whom I have had a long > > standing > > relationship and had hoped to share a beer with were not present-----a > > pity > > but perhaps not unexpected. > > Unlike previous Heimattags, there were a striking number of information > > tables in the foyer, representing everything from HOGs, book publishers, > > including the AKdFF and AVBF as well as tourist authorities(Notably > > Temeswar) among others. The multitude of Banater book publishers gives > > the > > impression that every other Banater must be busy writing up experiences in > > the Banat, escape stories from Eastern Europe, composing novels or poetry > > Another feature this year was a series of lectures on Banat topics which > > included a lecture on beginning Banat family history research by AKdFF > > chairman, Guenter Junkers. > > The decreasing attendance at the Heimattag portends the day which will > > certainly come all too soon which will force a change to this occasion, > > possibly more from largely a social occasion to a more cultural or > > scholarly > > form. > > Dave Dreyer > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To contact the BANAT list administrator, send an email to > > [email protected] > > > > To post a message to the BANAT mailing list, send an email to > > [email protected] > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes > > in > > the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. > > > > > > End of BANAT Digest, Vol 9, Issue 122 > > ************************************* > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Toni -- I've been away and am just now reading some e-mails. I don't have information on your Josef ... however, I do have the Wilhelm & Kalbrunner CD which lists people who registered in Vienna. No Josef's but perhaps he was a son or grandson of one of these. 1. Anton Furst -- about 1765 - von (from) Clashofen out of Mainzifchen 2. Christian Furst -- von(of) Branichweiler aus dem (out of) Nassauifchen about 1785 3. Frank Furst -- von (of) Clashofen aus dem (out of) Mainzifchen 4. Melchior Furst -- of Breitenbach aus dem Romifchen Reich ca. 1765 (translates I believe Roman Empire) 5. Lenhardt First -- Reich (Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation) May 1764 Re: Clashofen -- I believe this starts with the letter C; sometimes it is hard to decipher the old handwriting. There is a Glashofen in Germany ... but the letter does look like a C. I know this does not give specific information on your Josef but I thought you would like to know where others with that surname lived. Sus > Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 14:11:52 -0400 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [BANAT-L] Fürst > > I am looking for a lead on the birthplace of Josef Fürst. He was born > about 1810-1815; maybe a little later. He married Anna Maria Philippi on > 11 Feb 1839 in Hatzfeld. He died there on 17 Apr 1883. > Thank you. > -- > Toni Hayes > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Roy Perhaps you are refering to "Quellen zur deutschen Siedlungsgeschichte in Suedosteuropa" Hundreds of copies of this publication on a CD were distributed to Banat list subscribers several years ago. I would imagine that everyone who had an interest in this area has a copy of the publication Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy W Shiflet" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] BANAT Digest, Vol 9, Issue 122 > Dave, What is the name of the series of books from Vienna that detail the > names of the individuals migrating. > I will be at the Library of Congress later this month and can do any look > up > for our guests > Roy Shiflet > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: 06/15/14 3:01 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: BANAT Digest, Vol 9, Issue 122 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Heimattag der Banater Schwaben 2014 (Dave Dreyer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 20:29:46 -0700 > From: "Dave Dreyer" <[email protected]> > Subject: [BANAT-L] Heimattag der Banater Schwaben 2014 > To: "Banat List" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Likely we have made our final pilgrimage to attend the Ulm Heimattag. > This > two day meeting held on Pfingsten weekend in Ulm, where many immigrants > to > SE Europe embarked for the downriver voyage on the Danube, brings together > Banaters from around the world every two years. The format of the meeting > followed roughly that of previous years with folk dancing by Banater > Trachten groups in the Ulm fussganger zone. A few hundred meters from the > dancing was St Pauls the parish church were many Banaters were married > before departing for the Banat. Only married adults were allowed to > migrate > and since the Ulm Muster was Protestant since the reformation, the > marriages > were preformed in this modest parish church. > At the conclusion of the dancing and lead by the Blast Kapelle, the > Trachten > groups formed a procession for the march to the Rathaus and to a reception > by the Oberburgermeister. After the reception the groups reformed and > with > the band leading marched down through the Altstadt to the Auswanderung > Denkmal on the Danube shore for the wreath laying ceremony. This was the > spot where migrants loaded aboard the barges for the Banat. > The inscription on the side of the Denkmal reads, > > Von Ulm aus zogen > Deutsche siedler, im > 18 Jahrhundert auf > der donau nach dem > sudosten Europas > > Jhre Nachfahren > kehrten vom schicksal > nach dem zweiten welt > Krieg aus ihrer Heimat > vertrieben in das land > ihrer vaters zurck > > In the evening there was a program of Donau Schwaben folk songs at the > Donau > Schwaben Zentral museum which is housed in one of the massive defensive > bastions of the former Ulm fortifications. Judging by the audience > reaction > the music program was a smashing hit. > Sunday's program at the Ulm fair grounds was mainly interesting for two > great halls of tables set up with each labeled with the name of a village > where one could meet ex neighbors and others from the home village. On > our > first attendance at the Heimattag 1996 it took seven large halls to hold > the > tables and the dense crowds, a clear sign of the passing of the older > generation. Indeed several old timers with whom I have had a long > standing > relationship and had hoped to share a beer with were not present-----a > pity > but perhaps not unexpected. > Unlike previous Heimattags, there were a striking number of information > tables in the foyer, representing everything from HOGs, book publishers, > including the AKdFF and AVBF as well as tourist authorities(Notably > Temeswar) among others. The multitude of Banater book publishers gives > the > impression that every other Banater must be busy writing up experiences in > the Banat, escape stories from Eastern Europe, composing novels or poetry > Another feature this year was a series of lectures on Banat topics which > included a lecture on beginning Banat family history research by AKdFF > chairman, Guenter Junkers. > The decreasing attendance at the Heimattag portends the day which will > certainly come all too soon which will force a change to this occasion, > possibly more from largely a social occasion to a more cultural or > scholarly > form. > Dave Dreyer > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BANAT list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the BANAT mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. > > > End of BANAT Digest, Vol 9, Issue 122 > ************************************* > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Has Höfer Verlag published the map of the southern Banat yet? The map for the northern part is very useful. George