I have Philipp Lung’s book on Sigmundfeld but I’m going crazy trying to find the names I’m looking for in all the indexes he has in the back. Would there be a digital index online I could use with the book to find the pages I want? Thanks, Tom
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Hello Rita and others interested in the sources for studying of the 12th Banat Grenz Regiment! Vast archival content related to the 12th Banat Grenz Regiment is been kept in Archive of Pančevo, archive fond no. 758, archive box 323 (1756-1874) and comprises 331 volumes. Most of the documentation pertains to the following kind of documentation: ledgers, books of account, registries and other, not sorted documents and relates to the following companies (number of company following the name): Pantschewo, Tomaschevatz (1), Perlas (2), Oppowa (3) , Glogon (4), Usdin (6), Antalfalva and Homolitz (7) and 31 unidentified companies. Documentation is in Latin and German languages. Documentation contains (among other) various contracts, notes and contracts related to the leasing of lands, meadows and pastures, payrolls for soldiers and officers, certificates, censuses of families which do not have the residency rights, requests for issuance of "wanderbucher" (journeyman books), requests for opening of trading stores, permissions for buying orchards etc. etc. This archival fond was obtained by the restitution pursuant to the claim of Yugoslavia after the WWII directed to the Republic of Austria, where the documentation was settled at the time in the Royal Chamber Archive in Vienna. Up to 1988, fond was in Archive of Vojvodina in Novi Sad when it was transferred to the Archive in Pančevo according to the provenance and the territoriality principles. I am sorry to say that the fond is not available in electronic form. It is available in Archive, for manual browsing. It is a lot of material (85 meters) and although the fond is officially sorted and cataloged, in the reality, it is not. If someone wish to investigate on the site, I will be glad to help with contacts, accommodation, translation or whatever. Before engaging me or someone else to make the investigation of those materials in Pančevo (which is another possibility of scrutinizing of this fond), I strongly suggest that you should check with the archive(s) in Vienna about the possible microfilm copies of this documentation. I am unsure if they have it or not. Anyway, I hope that this was of some help. Staša, Synergia (www.synergia.rs) On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Rita Schiwanowitsch via < [email protected]> wrote: > In the church books I found an entry regarding a specific company of the > 12th Banat Grenz Regiment. Company: Banat Brestowatz Churchbooks: Klam > Baborissa in 1793 and Jabuka Churchbooks: Deleblat in 1821, I would like > to have more information on this company. Does anyone know where I might > find this information? Thank you in advance for your help and > consideration. > > Rita > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Stasa Cvetkovic* *http://www.synergia.rs/ <http://www.synergia.rs/>* *Tel/fax: +381 21 553 265* *Mobile: +381 62 598 517* *Novi Sad, Serbia* *Visit our webpage <http://www.synergia.rs/>*
Thank you Rosina. Rita > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 07:42:34 -0700 > CC: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] 12th Banat Grenz Regiment > From: [email protected] > > > > Rita, > > Dave Dreyer's aspects of the Banat Regiment's that Dave presented at the Donauschwaben meeting in Oregon, you can read here: > > > Rosina T. Schmidt > www.hrastovac.net > > > On 10262014AD--, at 9:10 53000AM, ddreyer via wrote: > > > Rita, > > > > You might start with > > > > Milleker, Felix, “Geschichte der Banater Militaergrenze 1764-1873”, Pantschowa 1926. > > > > We have published with Tony Kraemer several articles in the AKdFF’s DFF quarterly on Musterlists and Colonists to the Regiment. You can get copies from the AKdFF. > > > > Kraemer and I have published a stand alone work entitled “Banaters in the XII Deutsch Banater Grenz Regiment Records”. We no longer have copies available but you may be able to find a copy in the AKdFF archives. > > > > You will find extensive microfilm on the Regiment in the FHL especially on the Standestabellen. These contain a wealth of information on the month to month events in the Regiment. > > > > The battalions of the Regiment were in the field through most of the Napoleonic Wars period and you can follow them in the order of battle publications-------See, for example Dugby Smith, “The Napoleonic Wars Data book”. The regiment took an active part in the revolutions of 1848-1849. > > > > We discussed some aspects of the Regiment’s records during a recent interrupted lecture at the Donauschwaben meeting in Salen Oregon. > > > > Dave Dreyer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 2:02 PM > > To: Banat-L, [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > In the church books I found an entry regarding a specific company of the 12th Banat Grenz Regiment. Company: Banat Brestowatz Churchbooks: Klam Baborissa in 1793 and Jabuka Churchbooks: Deleblat in 1821, I would like to have more information on this company. Does anyone know where I might find this information? Thank you in advance for your help and consideration. > > > > Rita > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Walter, It's always fun to start the day with a pun - in this case, fishing for facts. My Bartl line settled in Darowa, and I have not found a link to the line you have found in Grossjetscha or even Kleinjetscha. I'm sorry could not be of more help. Cathy Teufel O'Neill Message: 2 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 18:53:52 -0700 From: Wally WALTER FISCH <[email protected]> Subject: [BANAT-L] Hello Cathy Tuefal To: Banat_List <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have a lady by the name of Magdalena Bartl on my family tree however I have no birth or death dates. She married Nikolaus Schneider (date unknown) but Nikolaus was born Decembe 31, 1825, Grossjstsclia. They had four children: Thomas born Nov14, 1876, Ana born Aug 7, 1878, Andreas born Feb 29, 1880 and Josef born Nov 7, 1801 all in Aurelheim. I hope this may help in your research because I am always fishing for facts. Until next time. J Walter Fisch
Rita, Dave Dreyer's aspects of the Banat Regiment's that Dave presented at the Donauschwaben meeting in Oregon, you can read here: Rosina T. Schmidt www.hrastovac.net On 10262014AD--, at 9:10 53000AM, ddreyer via wrote: > Rita, > > You might start with > > Milleker, Felix, “Geschichte der Banater Militaergrenze 1764-1873”, Pantschowa 1926. > > We have published with Tony Kraemer several articles in the AKdFF’s DFF quarterly on Musterlists and Colonists to the Regiment. You can get copies from the AKdFF. > > Kraemer and I have published a stand alone work entitled “Banaters in the XII Deutsch Banater Grenz Regiment Records”. We no longer have copies available but you may be able to find a copy in the AKdFF archives. > > You will find extensive microfilm on the Regiment in the FHL especially on the Standestabellen. These contain a wealth of information on the month to month events in the Regiment. > > The battalions of the Regiment were in the field through most of the Napoleonic Wars period and you can follow them in the order of battle publications-------See, for example Dugby Smith, “The Napoleonic Wars Data book”. The regiment took an active part in the revolutions of 1848-1849. > > We discussed some aspects of the Regiment’s records during a recent interrupted lecture at the Donauschwaben meeting in Salen Oregon. > > Dave Dreyer > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 2:02 PM > To: Banat-L, [email protected] > > > > > > In the church books I found an entry regarding a specific company of the 12th Banat Grenz Regiment. Company: Banat Brestowatz Churchbooks: Klam Baborissa in 1793 and Jabuka Churchbooks: Deleblat in 1821, I would like to have more information on this company. Does anyone know where I might find this information? Thank you in advance for your help and consideration. > > Rita > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Magdalena Bartl born 18 Apr 1841 in Kleinjetecha. This was from Ancestry.com website. It lists her husband Nikolaus Schneider 31 Dec 1825 Gross Jetschka. Also son Josef birthday listed as 07 Nov 1881 in Aurelheim Hungary. -----Original Message----- From: Wally WALTER FISCH via Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 8:53 PM To: Banat_List Subject: [BANAT-L] Hello Cathy Tuefal I have a lady by the name of Magdalena Bartl on my family tree however I have no birth or death dates. She married Nikolaus Schneider (date unknown) but Nikolaus was born Decembe 31, 1825, Grossjstsclia. They had four children: Thomas born Nov14, 1876, Ana born Aug 7, 1878, Andreas born Feb 29, 1880 and Josef born Nov 7, 1801 all in Aurelheim. I hope this may help in your research because I am always fishing for facts. Until next time. J Walter Fisch ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I have a lady by the name of Magdalena Bartl on my family tree however I have no birth or death dates. She married Nikolaus Schneider (date unknown) but Nikolaus was born Decembe 31, 1825, Grossjstsclia. They had four children: Thomas born Nov14, 1876, Ana born Aug 7, 1878, Andreas born Feb 29, 1880 and Josef born Nov 7, 1801 all in Aurelheim. I hope this may help in your research because I am always fishing for facts. Until next time. J Walter Fisch
Rita, You might start with Milleker, Felix, “Geschichte der Banater Militaergrenze 1764-1873”, Pantschowa 1926. We have published with Tony Kraemer several articles in the AKdFF’s DFF quarterly on Musterlists and Colonists to the Regiment. You can get copies from the AKdFF. Kraemer and I have published a stand alone work entitled “Banaters in the XII Deutsch Banater Grenz Regiment Records”. We no longer have copies available but you may be able to find a copy in the AKdFF archives. You will find extensive microfilm on the Regiment in the FHL especially on the Standestabellen. These contain a wealth of information on the month to month events in the Regiment. The battalions of the Regiment were in the field through most of the Napoleonic Wars period and you can follow them in the order of battle publications-------See, for example Dugby Smith, “The Napoleonic Wars Data book”. The regiment took an active part in the revolutions of 1848-1849. We discussed some aspects of the Regiment’s records during a recent interrupted lecture at the Donauschwaben meeting in Salen Oregon. Dave Dreyer From: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 2:02 PM To: Banat-L, [email protected] In the church books I found an entry regarding a specific company of the 12th Banat Grenz Regiment. Company: Banat Brestowatz Churchbooks: Klam Baborissa in 1793 and Jabuka Churchbooks: Deleblat in 1821, I would like to have more information on this company. Does anyone know where I might find this information? Thank you in advance for your help and consideration. Rita ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thanks Fran and Eduardo. Unfortunately, I am looking for specific 1920's information. There are some records for Sao Paulo online at Location Research — FamilySearch.org | | | | | | | | | Location Research — FamilySearch.orgDiscover your family history. Explore the world’s largest collection of free family trees, genealogy records and resources. | | | | View on familysearch.org | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | I have not found my Bartl, but maybe you should take a look, Eduardo. I know they keep adding immigration records. For some reason, the link to those records was down today, but it should be up and running soon. I am sure there is someone on this list who has links to Reschitz. Hopefully, help will be on the way, Eduardo. Sincerely,Cathy Teufel O'Neill
Hi, I found some information in the internet, that’s all I’ve got so far. http://www.immigrantships.net/departures/brazil.html Thanks. Eduardo. From: Catherine Teufel [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: sábado, 25 de outubro de 2014 12:07 To: Banat List; Eduardo Spiesz Subject: Sao Paulo Hi Eduardo, I am sorry that I cannot give you any information about your ancestor's home village of Reschitz, but I am curious about the immigration of Banaters to Sao Paulo. My great uncle Wenzel Bartl of Darowa also settled there is the 1920's, but I have no information about why he made the decision to go or how and when he arrived in South America. Have you been able to find ship records for South American voyages? Is there any information you can share about Banater settlements in Sao Paulo, Brazil? I know that my Wenzel Bartl married a woman named Katharina Ginder, but I have no idea where she was from or where they were wed. Thank you, Cathy Teufel O'Neill
Try http://www.dvhh.org/dta/index.htm and http://www.dvhh.org/dta/brazil/sao_paulo/index.htm for some information on Banaters in Brazio and Sao Paulo. Fran Matkovich -----Original Message----- From: Catherine Teufel via Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 10:07 AM To: Banat List ; [email protected] Subject: [BANAT-L] Sao Paulo Hi Eduardo, I am sorry that I cannot give you any information about your ancestor's home village of Reschitz, but I am curious about the immigration of Banaters to Sao Paulo. My great uncle Wenzel Bartl of Darowa also settled there is the 1920's, but I have no information about why he made the decision to go or how and when he arrived in South America. Have you been able to find ship records for South American voyages? Is there any information you can share about Banater settlements in Sao Paulo, Brazil? I know that my Wenzel Bartl married a woman named Katharina Ginder, but I have no idea where she was from or where they were wed. Thank you,Cathy Teufel O'Neill ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
In the church books I found an entry regarding a specific company of the 12th Banat Grenz Regiment. Company: Banat Brestowatz Churchbooks: Klam Baborissa in 1793 and Jabuka Churchbooks: Deleblat in 1821, I would like to have more information on this company. Does anyone know where I might find this information? Thank you in advance for your help and consideration. Rita
Hi Eduardo, I am sorry that I cannot give you any information about your ancestor's home village of Reschitz, but I am curious about the immigration of Banaters to Sao Paulo. My great uncle Wenzel Bartl of Darowa also settled there is the 1920's, but I have no information about why he made the decision to go or how and when he arrived in South America. Have you been able to find ship records for South American voyages? Is there any information you can share about Banater settlements in Sao Paulo, Brazil? I know that my Wenzel Bartl married a woman named Katharina Ginder, but I have no idea where she was from or where they were wed. Thank you,Cathy Teufel O'Neill
Generation 4 8. Kristof Tekol Dekolt Dekold, son of Johannes Tekol Dekolt Dekold and Barbara Hemmert wasborn before 1803 in Lorraine, France (of Luxembourg or Lothringen). He died on Dead. He married Gikkii about 1840. 9. Gikkii was born about 1825 (Uncertain - Gikki spouse of Kristof being spouse). She died on Dead(Cholera). Gikkii and Kristof Tekol Dekolt Dekold had the following children: i. Johannes Dekold, son of Kristof Tekol Dekolt Dekold and Gikkii was born before 1847 in Ernsthausen, Banat, Hungary. He died on Dead (GPZ 133 House 137 Dekold Johann and Witwe Dekold Gertraud). He married Spouse Two (Dekold). He married Gertruad Kiefer. She was born in St Georgen, Banat, Hungary (Spouse of Johannes,). She died in 1911. 4. ii. Kaspar Dekold, son of Kristof Tekol Dekolt Dekold and Gikkii was born on 15 Mar1841 in Klek, Banat, Hungary (House 152 bzw.182,). He died in 1911 in Klek, Banat, Hungary. He married Barbara Potje in Oct 1870. She was born in 1843 in Klek, Banat, Hungary. iii. Magdalean Dekold, daughter of Kristof Tekol Dekolt Dekold and Gikkii was born in 1838 in Klek, Banat, Hungary. She died in 1922 in Klek, Banat, Hungary. She married Andrea Mayer. He was born in 1833 in Klek, Banat, Hungary. He died in 1917. Generation 5 16. Johannes Tekol Dekolt Dekold, son of Nickolaus Tekol Dekolt Dekold and Anna Maria Johanna(Dekold) was born in 1780 in Luxembourg, Belgium. He married Barbara Hemmert on 19 Oct 1802 in Heufeld, Banat, Hungary (House #61). 17. Barbara Hemmert was born on 14 Apr 1780 in Heufeld, Banat, Hungary (house 39). She died on14 Oct 1803 in Kisorosz Ruskodorf, Banat, Hungary (Rusko Selo, Vojvodina, Serbia).
I have tried to find any information the 6th generation of my family. Here is what I have. Generation 6 32. Nickolaus Tekol Dekolt Dekold was born in 1732 in Fauvillers, Luxembourg, Belgium (Fedler).He died on 01 Apr 1834 in Klek, Banat, Hungary. He married Anna Maria Johanna (Dekold) before 1785. 33. Anna Maria Johanna (Dekold) was born in 1743 in Fauvillers, Luxembourg, Belgium (Fedler ORFätler). She died on 17 Aug 1803. Are any other these area or town still in existence and is there any information that is still possible to research David w
Hi, I'm looking for some information about my great grandfather Petru Spiesz, born in 1883 in Resita (Reschitz), nowadays Romania. They left for São Paulo, Brasil in 1925. Thanks. Eduardo.
Kelly, From the Gertianosch family book by Dittmar Giel Roeser Anton, son of Peter Roeser and Barbara Jabba *17 Apr 1841 G +15 Sep 1924 Perjamosch 1oo 18 Jan 1869 G Friedrich Katharina, dau of Johann Friedrich and Margaret Willwerth *25 Oct 1844 G +16 Jul 1873 G Six kids born in G. Only two survived to adulthood 2oo 28 Jan 1874 G Minich Katharina, dau of Johann Minich and Anna Marx *25 Oct 1853 Perjamsoch +9 apr 1904 Perjamosch Nine kids born in G all except two died as infants 13 Margaret *20 Nov 1883 G 14 Anna *15 Jun 1886 G Dave Dreyer From: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 9:13 AM To: [email protected] Would anyone with access to the Gertianosh book look up Anton Roser? (Roeser, or any variation of the spelling) I have that he was married to a Katharine Minnich, and had several children, one of whom was my grandmother, Margaret Roser). I have the Anton died in Perjamosh on 9 Sept 1924. I’m looking for Anton’s parents, siblings.. grandparents..anything Thank you! Kelly > On 23 Oct, 2014, at 3:01 am, [email protected] wrote: > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Jakob Bruck family ([email protected]) > 2. Religious Coversion (Eileen - genealogy) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 02:42:50 +0000 > From: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Jakob Bruck family > To: " [email protected] " <[email protected]>, Olivera Uzelac > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Olivera, > > Yes, Jakob Bruck came to North Dakota in 1897. His wife and three daughters followed a year later. > > I did not know about the marriage of the daughter Susanna. What was her married name? I see that Jakob is in the 1900, 1910 and 1920 North Dakota census so they must have returned to the Banat sometime after World War I. They lived in Dickinson. Likely the daughter Susanna lived in Dickinson as well. Unfortunately the birth records for Dickinson are not readily available at this time. > > The three daughters of Jakob and Elisabeth, Anna, Elisabeth and Maria would easily have been of marriageable age by 1920. Perhaps one or more of them were also married in ND. If you go to Banatbooks.com, click on the Josefsdorf file and you will see what I know about this family. > > Dave Dreyer > > > > > > > From: Olivera Uzelac > Sent: ?Tuesday?, ?October? ?21?, ?2014 ?4?:?33? ?PM > To: [email protected], [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > Dave, > > > > > I found your list on the Ancestry.com with the names of the passengers who came to North Dakota just now. Jakob did go to North Dakota and later his second wife and their daughters followed. I also found that Susanne and her family went there as well in 1905 but they later returned to Serbia. Her son Peter was my great grandfather. > > > > > Olivera > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 1:53 AM, Olivera Uzelac <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dave, > > > > > > > > I don't have their death records. I was actually wondering if Jacob himself came to North Dakota. According to the Stefansfeld book his daughter from his first marriage, Susanne, gave birth to a girl in North Dakota. However, both Susanne and her daughter died in Serbia. The daughter can be found again in the book under her husband's name and the birth place listed is Stefansfeld. I first thought that it was an error but seeing that she had relatives there, it is possible that she was born in North Dakota. > > > > > Olivera > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 14:24:41 -0500 > From: Eileen - genealogy <[email protected]> > Subject: [BANAT-L] Religious Coversion > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > What is the likelihood that a non-Catholic would convert to Catholicism in > order to be part of one of the earlier waves - abt. 1769 - of immigration > to the Banat? If such a conversion took place, where would the proof of > conversion be found? > > Eileen Lund-Johnson > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BANAT list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the BANAT mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of BANAT Digest, Vol 9, Issue 204 > ************************************* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi David and Angela, My Potje ancestors came from Hombourg Haut (Oberhomburg) in Lorrraine: Heinrich Potie, 3 p, Maler Hans Georg Potie, 2 p, Vergolder Balthasar Potie, Maler Caspar Potie, Maler The entry in Wilhelm & Kallbrunner (Quellen zur Deutschen Siedlungsgeschichte in Suedosteuropa - p. 113) shows that they registered in Vienna on March 26, 1770. These members of the Potie/Potye/Potje family were among the first settlers in Sackelhausen. From there, some of their descendants moved to other towns in the Banat. Kathy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 3:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: BANAT Digest, Vol 9, Issue 205 Today's Topics: 1. Anton Roser (Zahn Kelly) 2. Dekold (Dekolt) and Potje (potie) Families (DavidnRenee Witte) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 13:13:20 -0400 From: Zahn Kelly <[email protected]> Subject: [BANAT-L] Anton Roser To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Would anyone with access to the Gertianosh book look up Anton Roser? (Roeser, or any variation of the spelling) I have that he was married to a Katharine Minnich, and had several children, one of whom was my grandmother, Margaret Roser). I have the Anton died in Perjamosh on 9 Sept 1924. I?m looking for Anton?s parents, siblings.. grandparents..anything Thank you! Kelly > On 23 Oct, 2014, at 3:01 am, [email protected] wrote: > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Jakob Bruck family ([email protected]) > 2. Religious Coversion (Eileen - genealogy) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 02:42:50 +0000 > From: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Jakob Bruck family > To: " [email protected] " <[email protected]>, Olivera Uzelac > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Olivera, > > Yes, Jakob Bruck came to North Dakota in 1897. His wife and three > daughters followed a year later. > > I did not know about the marriage of the daughter Susanna. What was her > married name? I see that Jakob is in the 1900, 1910 and 1920 North Dakota > census so they must have returned to the Banat sometime after World War I. > They lived in Dickinson. Likely the daughter Susanna lived in Dickinson > as well. Unfortunately the birth records for Dickinson are not readily > available at this time. > > The three daughters of Jakob and Elisabeth, Anna, Elisabeth and Maria > would easily have been of marriageable age by 1920. Perhaps one or more > of them were also married in ND. If you go to Banatbooks.com, click on > the Josefsdorf file and you will see what I know about this family. > > Dave Dreyer > > > > > > > From: Olivera Uzelac > Sent: ?Tuesday?, ?October? ?21?, ?2014 ?4?:?33? ?PM > To: [email protected], [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > Dave, > > > > > I found your list on the Ancestry.com with the names of the passengers who > came to North Dakota just now. Jakob did go to North Dakota and later his > second wife and their daughters followed. I also found that Susanne and > her family went there as well in 1905 but they later returned to Serbia. > Her son Peter was my great grandfather. > > > > > Olivera > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 1:53 AM, Olivera Uzelac > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dave, > > > > > > > > I don't have their death records. I was actually wondering if Jacob > himself came to North Dakota. According to the Stefansfeld book his > daughter from his first marriage, Susanne, gave birth to a girl in North > Dakota. However, both Susanne and her daughter died in Serbia. The > daughter can be found again in the book under her husband's name and the > birth place listed is Stefansfeld. I first thought that it was an error > but seeing that she had relatives there, it is possible that she was born > in North Dakota. > > > > > Olivera > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 14:24:41 -0500 > From: Eileen - genealogy <[email protected]> > Subject: [BANAT-L] Religious Coversion > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > What is the likelihood that a non-Catholic would convert to Catholicism in > order to be part of one of the earlier waves - abt. 1769 - of immigration > to the Banat? If such a conversion took place, where would the proof of > conversion be found? > > Eileen Lund-Johnson > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BANAT list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the BANAT mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of BANAT Digest, Vol 9, Issue 204 > ************************************* ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 13:45:09 -0700 From: DavidnRenee Witte <[email protected]> Subject: [BANAT-L] Dekold (Dekolt) and Potje (potie) Families To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am looking for some help in trying to get an exact location that my mother's family came from. According to some records that I was able to accumulate over the years. Both of the above family names came from either the kingdom of Luxemborg or Lorraine. The city that I have for the Dekolt (Dekold) was Felder?. Does anyone know of a better location for either family. The families emigrated to Banat and especially to Klek. Any help would be beneficial David Witte & Angela Dekold Konrad ------------------------------ To contact the BANAT list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the BANAT mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of BANAT Digest, Vol 9, Issue 205 *************************************
I am looking for some help in trying to get an exact location that my mother's family came from. According to some records that I was able to accumulate over the years. Both of the above family names came from either the kingdom of Luxemborg or Lorraine. The city that I have for the Dekolt (Dekold) was Felder?. Does anyone know of a better location for either family. The families emigrated to Banat and especially to Klek. Any help would be beneficial David Witte & Angela Dekold Konrad