I’m researching in the Banat for: Village of Glogon: HAIDA (HAJDA), HALAS (HALASZ, HALLASS, HUBESCH), LANG, SCHULTZ, KIRSCHNER, IMHOFF, VISZELY, KETLIN, RUBENIK, DEBREK, SOSTERICH, MARTZLAFF, EISENKOLB, SCHTARSCKY, KRETZMAJER (KRETSCHMAYER), MULLNAR (MULLHERIN), SPRINGMAN, MART, TENAR Village of Jabuka/Apfeldorf: KUHN, WERBER (WEBER, VERBER), ULRICH, JUHASZ, PFISTERER, MAJER, HUBERTH (SCHUBERT), JERGERIN, FISTERER, SCHWENZEL Happy New Year to All! Janis Arntz

Johan Balthazar Schaeffer born June 1716-Siebenburgen? Hans Juerg Schaeffer born around 1701-Wuerttemberg (possibility) 1739 ,Juerg (now a retired Hungarian soldier)marries Maria Agnessa Binder in Wurttemberg.They return to Baru in Siebenburgen. 1740,Maria Rosina is born.Shortly after-they move back to Agnessa's hometown of Geisingen am Neckar.And live with her family-Juerg and Balthazar (Possible brother)learn the trade of Blacksmith from her father.1742-they all leave for America.I am constantly searching for birth record for Balthazar and Juerg.I found a military record at ancestry..regiment listing at top of page...and I assume the village next to soldier name would be where they are from.?? This was Austrian-Hungarian record.

I guess I'll repost mine again: Wetshtein / Wettstein m Klein from Bajmok, Batschka, present day Serbia; Berger m Mandri / Mandich / Mandisch,  Kumbaj, Batschka, present day Hungary. Dick Thomas Conifer, CO, USA On 1/12/2018 4:00 PM, Lynette Nimtz wrote: > Surnames > CechnazEppFlorinGunderPeljonQueiser/QuoyserRothSolman/Sohlman/SollmannWernerWilhelm > Places > Trier Groß-BetschkerekModoschStephansfeldKarlsdorfPancevoSt. HubertStetchan > THANKS SO MUCH. > Lynette Nimtz Schleusner > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Schuster/Transylvania And Mueller surname

Hüpfl/Hüpfel/Hupfel/Hupfl/ Huepfel/Huepfl/Hiipfel/Hipfel/Hipfl and due to misunderstandings with civil and church administration even more variations. To be found all over Banat and Batschka including new destinations worldwide; so far 2 300 members identified and connected; but still looking for more details especially roots between Canada, US and the Danube villages. Rudolf -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: BANAT [mailto:banat-bounces+huepfl=gmail.com@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von Karen Dalton Preston Gesendet: Samstag, 13. Jänner 2018 22:09 An: BANAT@rootsweb.com Betreff: Re: [BANAT-L] Roll Call For those of you who are new to the List, and may be wondering about the “Roll Call” posts, this is an annual notice to other list members about the surnames and villages you are researching. This helps others who may be working on the same family lines to connect and share information. You may even find a cousin! Some guidelines: - Keep it brief - list the surname (and a few spelling variations) along with the village or villages where your ancestors lived. - Identifying a specific village increases the chances that you’ll get a response, particularly if you are working on a common surname like SCHMIDT. - Don’t post all the details of your entire Banat family tree. —Karen > On Jan 13, 2018, at 2:16 PM, Elinor Antis <eantis39@gmail.com> wrote: > > Antis/Andis in general Banat area or anywhere, it is not a profligate name. > Jost/Joost in Banat. Thank you in advance. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HAUSER, SCHUTZ, WALTER, KLEIN, GEIGER, DORN, LEHNER - Ruma HALLABRIN, SCHOESSLER, EHRISMANN, DILLMAN - Franzfeld BRUMENSCHENKEL - Bruckenau and ? WEGEL - Bruckenau GRASL/GRASSL/KRASSEL/KRASTEL, WILHELM - Setschan, Ulmbach WILHELM, SCHUCH - Setschan and ? KELLER, BEHACKER - Modosch Thank you, Suzie Ferguson

These are the names I’m focusing on this year: BARON: Deutsch-Zerne, Ernsthausen, Rudolfsgnad, Tschestereg BAUMGARTNER (BAUMGÄRTNER): Hatzfeld, Modosh, Offsenitza, Pardan, Zichydorf BRENNESSEL (BRENESEL, BRENNESEL, BRENESZ, BRENNESZEL, BRENNESL, PRENNESEL): Ernsthausen, Lazarfeld, Rudolfsgnad, Sartscha, Setschan, Tschestereg DREISZ (TREISZ): Hatzfeld FAYS (FAY, FAIJ): Grabatz, Pardan HEIM (HEYM, HAIM, HAJM): Marienfeld JERHOFF (JERHOF, GERHOFF): Botosch, Ernsthausen, possibly also Klek, Lazarfeld, Neudorf (Ujfalu), Sartscha, Zichydorf KASSAY (KASSAI, KASZAY): Pardan, Zichydorf KESSLER (KESZLER): Grabatz? LANDGRAF: Modosch LAUFER: Modosch ÖHL (OEL): Marienfeld SAMSON: Ernsthausen, Tschestereg SCHIRA: Tschestereg? SCHISSLER (SCHÜSSLER): Hatzfeld SOHL (SOLL, SZOHL, SZOL): Gross Gaj, Modosch

WEINMUELLER - Gajdobra & Neu-Gajdobra, Batschka MALJE / MAILLY / MAILLIE - Molidorf, Triebswetter STOFLE / STOUFLE / STOUFFLET - Seultour PHILIPP / FILIPP / FILIP - Molidorf, Seultour ROSIER / ROSZIER - Albrechtsflor, Seultour

Surnames: TILL, GROSZ Places: Rekasch, D Bentschek, Lippa, (this family moved frequently and had several children) Thank you, Diane Till Heisig

Roll Call WEISS in Temeschburg, Banat - one branch settled in Gazije, Slavonia, there name changed to VAJS. Rosina T. Schmidt www.hrastovac.net

Kirchmayer, Kirchenmayer, Kirchmeyer, Kirchmaier in the Banat. Thanks, Lynn M. Richardson -- "Not to know is bad. Not to want to know is worse. Not to hope is unthinkable. Not to care is unforgivable." Nigerian saying.

Rickert in Warjasch .... Andrus/Andrew...mother Magdalena father ?Johann? Sent from my iPad > On Jan 13, 2018, at 4:08 PM, Karen Dalton Preston <Karen@golden-hills.com> wrote: > > For those of you who are new to the List, and may be wondering about the “Roll Call” posts, this is an annual notice to other list members about the surnames and villages you are researching. > > This helps others who may be working on the same family lines to connect and share information. You may even find a cousin! > > Some guidelines: > - Keep it brief - list the surname (and a few spelling variations) along with the village or villages where your ancestors lived. > - Identifying a specific village increases the chances that you’ll get a response, particularly if you are working on a common surname like SCHMIDT. > - Don’t post all the details of your entire Banat family tree. > > —Karen > >> On Jan 13, 2018, at 2:16 PM, Elinor Antis <eantis39@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Antis/Andis in general Banat area or anywhere, it is not a profligate name. >> Jost/Joost in Banat. Thank you in advance. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bietsch, Bitsh,Bitsch, Beach Mramorak

For those of you who are new to the List, and may be wondering about the “Roll Call” posts, this is an annual notice to other list members about the surnames and villages you are researching. This helps others who may be working on the same family lines to connect and share information. You may even find a cousin! Some guidelines: - Keep it brief - list the surname (and a few spelling variations) along with the village or villages where your ancestors lived. - Identifying a specific village increases the chances that you’ll get a response, particularly if you are working on a common surname like SCHMIDT. - Don’t post all the details of your entire Banat family tree. —Karen > On Jan 13, 2018, at 2:16 PM, Elinor Antis <eantis39@gmail.com> wrote: > > Antis/Andis in general Banat area or anywhere, it is not a profligate name. > Jost/Joost in Banat. Thank you in advance.

Hello Hrastovacers, Sad news just reached us from Australia that Mandy Kaiser's great aunt ELIZABETH KAISER-SARKEZI passed away two days ago, the 10th of January 2018 in Croatian Baranya. Elizabeth was born on 3rd of Nov 1934 in Gr. Betschkerk, daughter of Magdalena Gangl and Nikolaus Kaiser. She was the youngest sister of Mandy's grandfather, and Mandy only recently was able to trace her and meet her in person. Please read more about Elizabeth at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Kaiser-443. Mandy, I/we are sorry to hear about the loss of your great aunt. May she rest in peace. Kind regards Rosina T. Schmidt www.hrastovac.net

Hi Bob, Sorry I sent that last message before it was finished. The Hungarian village of Bečkerek (aka Nagy Bečkerek, Gross Betschkerek, Zrenjanin) was settled as early as the 14th century, according to the Zrenjanin article in Wikipedia. The German settlement of Klein Betschkerek began in 1785 just south of Serbian Klein Betschkerek (cf. http://www.kleinbetschkerek.de/index.htm <http://www.kleinbetschkerek.de/index.htm>). There is an interesting chart at the bottom of this page https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Becicherecu_Mic <https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Becicherecu_Mic> showing the ethnic makeup of Klein Betschkerek over the years. I expect there was interaction between the two towns. Gross Betschkerek had a weekly market beginning in 1718, so I expect the inhabitants of Klein Betschkerek would have gone there for that. Are you researching any family names? I have a copy of Marco Leitl’s Familienbuch Groß Betschkerek if you would like me to do a lookup. Regards, Dolores Jungheim Barber PS: The Banat Village List is another great resource: http://www.dvhh.org/banat_villages/village-list.htm#K <http://www.dvhh.org/banat_villages/village-list.htm#K> > On Jan 12, 2018, at 6:47 AM, banat-request@rootsweb.com <mailto:banat-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Gross Betschkerek and Klein Betschkerek (Robert Wolf) > 2. Re: BANAT Digest, Vol 13, Issue 8 (Joan Shaver) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 17:37:17 -0600 > From: "Robert Wolf" <bobwolf@prodigy.net <mailto:bobwolf@prodigy.net>> > To: <banat@rootsweb.com <mailto:banat@rootsweb.com>> > Subject: [BANAT-L] Gross Betschkerek and Klein Betschkerek > Message-ID: <026001d38b35$1e412630$5ac37290$@prodigy.net <mailto:026001d38b35$1e412630$5ac37290$@prodigy.net>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Noting your references to Gross Betschkerek, I am wondering if you know any > of the history with these two towns? Which was settled first, are the > immigrants primarily from Germany, where, was there much interaction between > residents of the two towns? > Thanks, Bob

Hi Bob, The Hungarian village of Bečkerek (aka Nagy Bečkerek, Gross Betschkerek, Zrenjanin) was settled as early as the 14th century, according to the Zrenjanin article in Wikipedia. The German settlement of Klein Betschkerek began in 1785 just south of Serbian Klein Betschkerek (cf. http://www.kleinbetschkerek.de/index.htm <http://www.kleinbetschkerek.de/index.htm>). > On Jan 12, 2018, at 6:47 AM, banat-request@rootsweb.com <mailto:banat-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Gross Betschkerek and Klein Betschkerek (Robert Wolf) > 2. Re: BANAT Digest, Vol 13, Issue 8 (Joan Shaver) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 17:37:17 -0600 > From: "Robert Wolf" <bobwolf@prodigy.net <mailto:bobwolf@prodigy.net>> > To: <banat@rootsweb.com <mailto:banat@rootsweb.com>> > Subject: [BANAT-L] Gross Betschkerek and Klein Betschkerek > Message-ID: <026001d38b35$1e412630$5ac37290$@prodigy.net <mailto:026001d38b35$1e412630$5ac37290$@prodigy.net>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Noting your references to Gross Betschkerek, I am wondering if you know any > of the history with these two towns? Which was settled first, are the > immigrants primarily from Germany, where, was there much interaction between > residents of the two towns? > Thanks, Bob

I can't believe I've been researching for over 15 years now and easily been in touch with Dave for the majority of that time, and haven't met him in person to thank him for all his help when he basically lives right in my backyard. Need to fix that soon Dave! Ha! Thanks for all your help! Scott From: Karen Dalton Preston <Karen@golden-hills.com> To: Dave Dreyer <ddreyer@pacbell.net> Cc: BANAT List <banat-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 6:01 AM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Happy Birthday Bob Madler Dave summed it up very well.  We are all in Bob’s debt for this resource. And as long as we recognizing contributions, one of the most important resources is Dave Dreyer’s Ship Lists.  This one of the very best sources for uncovering your ancestors' village of origin in the Banat.  So thank yo, Dave for the countless hours it took to comb through all those arrival manifests and transcribe the data for the Banters. I met Dave Dreyer through the Banat List and we actually met face-to-face at a Mt. Angel Treffen.  We found that we both really enjoyed research, and this led us to several collaborations:  The Deutsch-Ungarishe Calendar List, the Heufeld-Massdorf family book and the family book for St. Hubert. I’ve met many people on the list who have become dear friends over the years.  And, like Dave, genealogy research and writing has become my second career, too. —Karen > On Jan 11, 2018, at 10:38 PM, David Dreyer <ddreyer@pacbell.net> wrote: > > We owe Bob an massive debt for initiating an incredible resource.  For some of us it gave a new focus to our lives and expanded our world in totally unanticipated and unexpected ways.  The LIST played such an important roll in our lives, especially in the early years that it may be worth while recording some of the landmarks along the way.  This can only be a highly personal view of the events and my apologies for overlooked items.Rootweb is down now(that's timing!) so the archives are not available but I believe I subscribed to the list was about 1998 as soon as I could get an internet connection.  John Movius, although not a Banater was a big behind the scenes booster of the list in the early days.  In those early days we were such amateurs.  In our defense there was very little accessible, published material.  A few knowledgeable people were involved in the early days, Monika Ferrier, Franz Quint, Norbert Neidenbach and Uwe Morres come to mind, and perhaps others who had personal experience with the Banat.  These tended to drop away as they recognized how little most of us understood of Banat matters.Initially, the list tended to be dominated by descendants of the North Dakota Banat colony.  The usual problem presented to the list in those days was attempts to determine the Banat village of origin and interpreting scrambled hand-me-down family notes.  I include myself in this search for a village of origin for my Banat grandmother.My memory is a bit fuzzy on the timing but in time Chris Lammesfeld took over the administration of the LIST from Bob.  This task was, in turn, undertaken by Steve Herold who, when he moved back to ND handed the job to the current administrator, David Preston.  There were a few bumps in the road along the way which stirred the pot but it is difficult to remember now what they were all about.A second list, DVHH, which largely duplicated the Banat list appeared 10-15 years ago and a multilingual mailing list created by the, German Donauschwaben group, the AKdFF, has become a widely used resource. .On a personal note, the Banat list has provided me with a second satisfying career in retirement.Dave Dreyer                > >    On Thursday, January 11, 2018 2:41 PM, Edward J. Lowitz <edward.lowitz1@verizon.net> wrote: > > > Happy Birthday Bob! > > Me - sometime after the CompuServe days... > > Earliest email I still have in Outlook is from Monika back in 1997 along > with some from Norbert, Wolfgang, Franz, Uwe, Chris, Dennis, Guenther, > Gordon, Dave & others... > > One of these days I have to go through some of those old emails for all the > sites which I saved!  :-)  > > Ed. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BANAT [mailto:banat-bounces+edward.lowitz1=verizon.net@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Steve Herold > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 12:37 AM > To: BANAT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BANAT-L] Happy Birthday Bob Madler > > Happy Birthday 89th Bob!! > > Bob founded the Banat mailing list on January 19, 1995.  For the first > couple of years of operation the list was hosted by a local ISP and Bob > funded the operation.  The list quickly became quite popular and looking > back at some of the early messages it is amazing how much we have learned > about the Banat since 1995.  Thank you Bob! > > I found Bob on the internet just before he started the list and learned that > Bob's mother was my mother's favorite aunt.    > > I'm curious how many on the list now have been subscribers since before > 2000?  Dave Dryer, I suspect you were on the list before 2000. > > Steve Herold > >  > > >  > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Hi Bob, I have not found any ancestors in Klein Betschkerek (yet), so I don’t know anything about that town. But your question is very interesting. I plan to research it and post my findings soon. Dolores > On Jan 12, 2018, at 6:47 AM, banat-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Gross Betschkerek and Klein Betschkerek (Robert Wolf) > 2. Re: BANAT Digest, Vol 13, Issue 8 (Joan Shaver) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 17:37:17 -0600 > From: "Robert Wolf" <bobwolf@prodigy.net> > To: <banat@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [BANAT-L] Gross Betschkerek and Klein Betschkerek > Message-ID: <026001d38b35$1e412630$5ac37290$@prodigy.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Noting your references to Gross Betschkerek, I am wondering if you know any > of the history with these two towns? Which was settled first, are the > immigrants primarily from Germany, where, was there much interaction between > residents of the two towns? > Thanks, Bob