This is a post from John Gruber (john.gruber@sympatico.ca <mailto:john.gruber@sympatico.ca>) which was recently posted to the List with an empty body. Below is the missing text. =====> I'm stuck on the following 4 events. As said below, no records of these events were found in 'obvious' FBs or KBs for the locations mentioned. Maybe they're in filials of these locations, or maybe some events like the marriages were civil? Birth/baptism of my GGF Michael Gruber b. about 1825, possibly from the Ittebe or Pardan areas. He's not in the Pardan FB of church index. Local history claims he was from Alsace, but he was too young for those mid 1700s migrations to Hungary, as in the Stader books; maybe they meant his ancestors were from there? Marriage of my GGPs Michael Gruber (as above), to Anna Wagner b. 1841 in Pardan. Marriage possibly in the late 1860s in Pardan, after which, and where, they had most of their kids. Their marriage isn't in the Pardan FB or church index since marriages apparently only go to 1835. They died in Georgeshausen in 1901 and 1902. Marriage of my GPs Anton Gruber (last kid of my above GGPs) b. 1881 in Georgeshausen, to Eva Heinrich b. 1881 in Setschanfeld. Local history claims they married in 1905, one would think in the Georgeshausen/Setschanfeld/Gross Gaj/Zichydorf area, but their marriage isn't in the Gross Gaj/Zichydorf FBs or KBs. I have what looks like a studio photo of them taken in then Versecz, likely about the time they married in 1905, but their marriage isn't found there either. They emigrated as married to Canada in 1906 with no kids. Marriage of Michael Gruber (jr., another son of my above GGPs) b. 1875 in Pardan, to Margaretha Schmidt b. 1877 in Setschan. They likely married in about the late 1890s before emigrating as married to Canada in 1903 with no kids. The Setchan FB mentions a questionable marriage (oo?) of Margaretha but it doesn't say to who, when or where. There's also an infant death Anna (b. 1898, d. 1899) in Setschan. Maybe Anna was illegitimate, so the father isn't listed? Any help/guidance on these events is appreciated. Thx ... John. <==== As a reminder to all List members: Please, send your posts as Plain Text, not “Rich Text” or copy/pasted from a Word or other program that formats text. Ancestry has pre-configured the servers to reject HTML-formatted or Word formatted text to avoid possible spam or spreading embedded viruses.

I believe the mystery has been solved!  Thanks so much to Lothar Renard and Cathy Teufel O'Neill for both giving information and scans that pointed to my Peter Wind and wife relocating and dying in Neubeschenowa.  This town was a mere 51.3km/31.9 miles from Gross Sanktnikolas, where his son Michael Wind eventually settled. For some reason, in my years of hunting for elusive Peter Wind, I had never searched towns that far south.  So, now I need to educate myself on the history of Neubeschenowa.  Again the fabulous Banat list has provided information to break down that brick wall!! If anyone needs ancestor information from Gross Sanktnikolas.....depending on the years, I probably have it! Warmest regards, Janet Wind Nixon Message: 1   Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 22:43:22 +0000 (UTC) From: Nixon Janet <janealogy@yahoo.com> To: "banat@rootsweb.com" <banat@rootsweb.com> Subject: [BANAT-L] WIND in Gross Sanktnikolas ~ Roll Call Message-ID: <2133970580.886375.1516315402698@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 This list has been a great boon to my research since I joined in 1997.? I have been able to link my WIND family back to Marpingen, Lothringia ~ now in Saarland. My one brick wall is discovering where my Wind line settled after coming through and registering in Vienna in 1764. The family of?Joannes Petri WIN migrated in 1764, but I cannot pick up the family's whereabouts in the Banat prior to 14 January 1783 when Joannes Petri Win's son, Michael WIND, married?Catharina Enerich?in Gro? Sankt Nikolaus. I know that many immigrant families lodged in other towns until their own home was built.? Have not been able to uncover where this was. Looking for death of Joannes Petri WIN/WIND b. Abt. 1738 in Marpingen, wife?Elisabetha KLEIN b. Abt. 1734 in?Eppelborn Stamm, Lotharingia or where in the Banat Michael WIND spent the years between 1764 and?1783.? All occurrences?that probably happened somewhere near?Gro? Sankt Nikolaus Thank you for any insights. Jan Wind, Klein, Leber, Roos/Roosz, Enerich, Hach, Goetz, Phillip,?JAGDENTEUFELD, Czenser ~ to name of few.? All of GSN

About one-half of the Banater Akten is now online and can be used with your Family Search account. To view remove the spaces in the URL below. www . familysearch . org/search/catalog/173251?availability=Family%20History%20Library Eileen Lund-Johnson On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 9:15 AM, Glenn Schwartz <gschwartz@accesscomm.ca> wrote: > Have you tried the Schlafkreutzerungen? This was a list of people who were > already settled and were paid to take in immigrants while their houses were > built. It also lists the new immigrants who were taken in. I have not > looked at this for a long time, so I don't remember much detail. I viewed > it on microfilm from the Mormon FHL. I expect that it is probably online > now. I believe that it formed part of a larger file called Banater Akten > which, if I recall correctly, listed the immigrants passing through Vienna > and which formed the basis for the W&K book and the later Stader books. > > Glenn Schwartz > > President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) > Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, > Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in > Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, > Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in > Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. > Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca > > On 1/18/2018 4:43 PM, Nixon Janet wrote: > >> This list has been a great boon to my research since I joined in 1997. I >> have been able to link my WIND family back to Marpingen, Lothringia ~ now >> in Saarland. >> My one brick wall is discovering where my Wind line settled after coming >> through and registering in Vienna in 1764. >> The family of Joannes Petri WIN migrated in 1764, but I cannot pick up >> the family's whereabouts in the Banat prior to 14 January 1783 when Joannes >> Petri Win's son, Michael WIND, married Catharina Enerich in Groß Sankt >> Nikolaus. >> I know that many immigrant families lodged in other towns until their own >> home was built. Have not been able to uncover where this was. >> Looking for death of Joannes Petri WIN/WIND b. Abt. 1738 in Marpingen, >> wife Elisabetha KLEIN b. Abt. 1734 in Eppelborn Stamm, Lotharingia or where >> in the Banat Michael WIND spent the years between 1764 and 1783. All >> occurrences that probably happened somewhere near Groß Sankt Nikolaus >> Thank you for any insights. >> JanWind, Klein, Leber, Roos/Roosz, Enerich, Hach, Goetz, >> Phillip, JAGDENTEUFELD, Czenser ~ to name of few. All of GSN >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Have you tried the Schlafkreutzerungen? This was a list of people who were already settled and were paid to take in immigrants while their houses were built. It also lists the new immigrants who were taken in. I have not looked at this for a long time, so I don't remember much detail. I viewed it on microfilm from the Mormon FHL. I expect that it is probably online now. I believe that it formed part of a larger file called Banater Akten which, if I recall correctly,  listed the immigrants passing through Vienna and which formed the basis for the W&K book and the later Stader books. Glenn Schwartz President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Schwartz, Kory, Pierson/Person in Morawitza, Banat; Kalupsky/Chalupsky in Blumenthal, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca On 1/18/2018 4:43 PM, Nixon Janet wrote: > This list has been a great boon to my research since I joined in 1997.  I have been able to link my WIND family back to Marpingen, Lothringia ~ now in Saarland. > My one brick wall is discovering where my Wind line settled after coming through and registering in Vienna in 1764. > The family of Joannes Petri WIN migrated in 1764, but I cannot pick up the family's whereabouts in the Banat prior to 14 January 1783 when Joannes Petri Win's son, Michael WIND, married Catharina Enerich in Groß Sankt Nikolaus. > I know that many immigrant families lodged in other towns until their own home was built.  Have not been able to uncover where this was. > Looking for death of Joannes Petri WIN/WIND b. Abt. 1738 in Marpingen, wife Elisabetha KLEIN b. Abt. 1734 in Eppelborn Stamm, Lotharingia or where in the Banat Michael WIND spent the years between 1764 and 1783.  All occurrences that probably happened somewhere near Groß Sankt Nikolaus > Thank you for any insights. > JanWind, Klein, Leber, Roos/Roosz, Enerich, Hach, Goetz, Phillip, JAGDENTEUFELD, Czenser ~ to name of few.  All of GSN > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This list has been a great boon to my research since I joined in 1997.  I have been able to link my WIND family back to Marpingen, Lothringia ~ now in Saarland. My one brick wall is discovering where my Wind line settled after coming through and registering in Vienna in 1764. The family of Joannes Petri WIN migrated in 1764, but I cannot pick up the family's whereabouts in the Banat prior to 14 January 1783 when Joannes Petri Win's son, Michael WIND, married Catharina Enerich in Groß Sankt Nikolaus. I know that many immigrant families lodged in other towns until their own home was built.  Have not been able to uncover where this was. Looking for death of Joannes Petri WIN/WIND b. Abt. 1738 in Marpingen, wife Elisabetha KLEIN b. Abt. 1734 in Eppelborn Stamm, Lotharingia or where in the Banat Michael WIND spent the years between 1764 and 1783.  All occurrences that probably happened somewhere near Groß Sankt Nikolaus Thank you for any insights. JanWind, Klein, Leber, Roos/Roosz, Enerich, Hach, Goetz, Phillip, JAGDENTEUFELD, Czenser ~ to name of few.  All of GSN

Lesch and Rebl Rebel from Molidorf and beyond. Evelyn Hoegeman (Lesch)

----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Suzanne Barnes <suzannebarnes2001@yahoo.com>To: Banat@rootsweb.com <Banat@rootsweb.com>Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018, 9:38:03 PM ESTSubject: Rollcall Wilhelm, Ritter, Hofrath - Obeba, Altbeba, Beta Veche Farber, Quitter, Kreisz, Kreis, Bach - Johannisfeld (I do have Susan Clarkson's book) Suzanne

Roll Call Neu: LAZERFOLD, HATZFELD/JIMBOLIA, Eichenthal Frank / Franck: LAZERFOLD, HATZFELD/JIMBOLIA, Eichenthal Fuhr: GROSSJETSCHA, HATZFELD/JIMBOLIA HARTMANN: GROSSJETSCHA ? Ritter: GROSSJETSCHA ?

Hello David, Thanks for keeping us informed. Thanks also for all the work you do for this list and especially for backing up the archives. Dolores Jungheim Barber > Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 12:00:53 -0500 > From: Banat List Admin <banatmailer@gmail.com> > To: BANAT List <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [BANAT-L] List search and archive status > Message-ID: <D8482A76-0FFA-4F21-86FA-BDAC0E968353@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hello fellow List Members: > > I wanted to share the latest information regarding the status of the Banat List and the scheme presented by Ancestry regarding the revival of the archive search features. > > First priority is being given to bringing back the Hosted Websites (there are literally thousands of them). Ancestry will be bringing them back ?a few hundred at a time? scanning the content to make sure there are no security issues. > > Next, will be the Family Trees/WorldConnect service, which allows people to upload GEDCOM family files for others to see. This portion of the service is currently under review, and will be brought back as a ?read-only? service in a month or so. The ability to upload new GEDCOM files will be added in the months afterwards. > > Finally, Ancestry will focus on bringing back the archival search features to the Mailing Lists once WorldConnect is fully operational. So, it will likely be many months before this service is restored. > > Should Ancestry determine that they cannot or will not return the searchable features, the historical Banat List information will not be totally lost. I made a complete back-up of the Banat List archives in November, 2017 - they are stored locally on my system. So, if the List is ?re-set? and the archives are not brought back by Ancestry, the data won?t be totally lost. > > I will continue to monitor the status of the archival search feature, and update the List with information from Ancestry regarding any updates to the availability of the search and threaded features. > > > With kind regards, > David Preston > Banat List Administrator > === > http://www.banatbooks.com > http://www.danube-swabians.org > http://www.village-records.org > http://www.molidorf.org > --- > http://www.daltongenealogicalsociety.org > http://www.daltondatabank.org > http://www.daltonamericas.org > http://www.dalton-dna.net > > > > > ------------------------------ > > End of BANAT Digest, Vol 13, Issue 37 > *************************************

Hello fellow List Members: I wanted to share the latest information regarding the status of the Banat List and the scheme presented by Ancestry regarding the revival of the archive search features. First priority is being given to bringing back the Hosted Websites (there are literally thousands of them). Ancestry will be bringing them back “a few hundred at a time” scanning the content to make sure there are no security issues. Next, will be the Family Trees/WorldConnect service, which allows people to upload GEDCOM family files for others to see. This portion of the service is currently under review, and will be brought back as a ‘read-only’ service in a month or so. The ability to upload new GEDCOM files will be added in the months afterwards. Finally, Ancestry will focus on bringing back the archival search features to the Mailing Lists once WorldConnect is fully operational. So, it will likely be many months before this service is restored. Should Ancestry determine that they cannot or will not return the searchable features, the historical Banat List information will not be totally lost. I made a complete back-up of the Banat List archives in November, 2017 - they are stored locally on my system. So, if the List is “re-set” and the archives are not brought back by Ancestry, the data won’t be totally lost. I will continue to monitor the status of the archival search feature, and update the List with information from Ancestry regarding any updates to the availability of the search and threaded features. With kind regards, David Preston Banat List Administrator === http://www.banatbooks.com http://www.danube-swabians.org http://www.village-records.org http://www.molidorf.org --- http://www.daltongenealogicalsociety.org http://www.daltondatabank.org http://www.daltonamericas.org http://www.dalton-dna.net

HILGER / HILJER / HILLIGER --      Lovrin / Lowrin     Detta / Deta     Medves / Nagymedves / Alsomedves  /Felsomedves / Kismedves / Kleinmurbisch     Hodon / Hodony     Cenad     Perkos / Percosova / Pakerzfalu / Perkeszfalu / Berkeszfalu     Temeschburg / Temeswar / TimisoaraSCHNEIDER --     Lovrin / Lowrin     Klein-Betschkerek / Becicherecu-Mic     KerekKLEKNER --     Lowrin / Lovrin     Cenad     Klein-Betschkerek / Becicherecu-Mic     Kerek SCHNEIDER (Nikolaus) --     LazarfeldHEINERMAN --     LazarfeldPHILIPPS --     Lazarfeld Thanks in advance for any help!!Nancy Poole From: Karen Dalton Preston <Karen@golden-hills.com> To: BANAT@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Roll Call For those of you who are new to the List, and may be wondering about the “Roll Call” posts, this is an annual notice to other list members about the surnames and villages you are researching. This helps others who may be working on the same family lines to connect and share information.  You may even find a cousin! Some guidelines: - Keep it brief - list the surname (and a few spelling variations) along with the village or villages where your ancestors lived.  - Identifying a specific village increases the chances that you’ll get a response, particularly if you are working on a common surname like SCHMIDT. - Don’t post all the details of your entire Banat family tree.  —Karen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That is great, Rosina! :) I had the honor to meet Mr. Fisher at Mt. Angel Treffen 2014 and I remember that he was the spiritus movens of the whole event! What a great, knowledgeable, jovial and eloquent guy! After reading of his excelent historical novel "Children of the Danube" that he presented me it will be a real pleasure to write his article! Thank you! Staša On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:47 PM, Rosina <rosinatschmidt@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello to all Danube Swabian Researchers! > > Those of us who attended Mt. Angel conferences in the years past will > recall HENRY FISCHER’S superb historical presentations. Once again Henry is > sharing with us one of his Case Studies, this one on Danube Swabian > emigration to the United States in the years between 1880 and 1920. > > The article is posted at www.hrastovac.net <http://www.hrastovac.net/>, > via the BULLETIN BOARD. > > Greetings from Vancouver Island, > > Rosina T. Schmidt > www.hrastovac.net <http://www.hrastovac.net/> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message -- *Stasa Cvetkovic* *http://www.synergia.rs/ <http://www.synergia.rs/>* *Tel/fax: +381 21 553 265* *Mobile: +381 62 598 517* *Novi Sad, Serbia* *Visit our webpage <http://www.synergia.rs/>*

Does anyone have the Neu Moldova/Moldowa Familienbuch for a look up? Jean Hagen

Hello to all Danube Swabian Researchers! Those of us who attended Mt. Angel conferences in the years past will recall HENRY FISCHER’S superb historical presentations. Once again Henry is sharing with us one of his Case Studies, this one on Danube Swabian emigration to the United States in the years between 1880 and 1920. The article is posted at www.hrastovac.net <http://www.hrastovac.net/>, via the BULLETIN BOARD. Greetings from Vancouver Island, Rosina T. Schmidt www.hrastovac.net <http://www.hrastovac.net/>

Information on the following names would be appreciated: Peter Hum in Weyerbach Germany 1728Maria Anna Mesner Luxembough 1746Hum or Humm family in Hatzfeld beginning in 1769Katharina Reichhard Hatzfeld 1812Friden Hatzfeld 1831Krutsch Hatzfeld 1858 Hausladen Hatzfeld 1820Pfeiffer Hatzfeld 1836 Thanks in Advance,John N. Humm

Does anyone have the name Rovina/Rowena CLEMENS/KLEMANN anywhere? She gave birth to a son (Nicolaum LOVITZ/LOWITZ) in Bogarosch about February 1815. Her husband was Nicolai LOVITZ/LOWITZ. If you have the given name Rovina/Rowena anywhere circa 1775 to 1850 near Bogarosch, I'd like to know. Thanks! Ed.

Hello everyone & happy new year! I'm looking for information on the following families: Rekasch: Flueras/Pfeiffer, Schanet, Wind Jahrmarkt: Loris Craig A. Windt cawindt@yahoo.com

If anyone can help me with information on the following surnames, I would greatly appreciate it! Berwanger, Burwanger, Burvonger, Bervonger,… and Thomas from Neubeschenowa. Krauss, Krause, Krauzs, Krausz, and Schwarz, Schwartz, from Neubeschenowa. Before 1850 Angele, Angeli, … and Gunthner, Gunther, from Kowatschi (Covasci…) or Sanktandres (St. Andres). Before 1850 Mulbach, born Saderlach, Arad; died Kowatchi, Timis. Before 1850 Haag, (unknown). Before 1870 Thank you! Cathi (Berwanger) Murphy Sent from Mail for Windows 10

My Austro-Hungarian ancestral surnames by town: *Deutsch-Etscka (Ečka) - Banat - Serbia* Augustin (from Moselle) Bierle/Perle (from Baden-Württemberg) Hestrof Klein Vala/Vallya/Wola (from Moravia) ------------------------------------------------------ *Rudolfsgnad (Knićanin) - Banat - Serbia* Heinermann Klein Tibold/Dipold (from Moselle) ------------------------------------------------------ *Lazarfeld (Lazarevo) - Banat - Serbia* Christoff Heinermann Reinbolt Tibold/Dipold (from Moselle) ------------------------------------------------------ *Stefansfeld (Krajišnik) - Banat - Serbia* Hasslinger ----------------------------------------------------- *Zichydorf (Plandište) - Banat - Serbia* Hasslinger Heinermann ----------------------------------------------------- *Banatsko Veliko Selo, Sveti Hubert, Kikinda - Banat - Serbia* Bohn Christoff Tipold/Dipold (from Moselle) ------------------------------------------------------ *Kula - Batschka - Serbia* Bierle/Perle/Bühler (from Baden-Württemberg) ------------------------------------------------------ *Tscherwenka (Crvenka) - Batschka - Serbia* Bierle/Perle/Bühler (from Baden-Württemberg) Bender (from Saarland) Ebersold (from Saarland and Rheinland-Pfalz) Friedrich (from Saarland) Hahn Hofmann Völkel (from Saarland and Rheinland-Pfalz) ----------------------------------------------------- *Grabaț, Timiș - Romania* Behacker Hasslinger ----------------------------------------------------- *Bulgăruș (Bogarosch), Timiș - Romania* Marx (from Moselle) Tipold/Dipold (from Moselle) ----------------------------------------------------- *Gottlob, Timiș - Romania* Augustin (from Moselle) Hestrof Heydinger (from Moselle) Valla/Wola (from Velká Bíteš (Gross Bittesch), Moravia Klein ----------------------------------------------------- *Szeged, Hungary* Reinbold ---------------------------------------------------- *Vértesboglár, Fejér, Hungary* Hasslinger (from Baden-Württemberg) ---------------------------------------------------- *Werischwar (Pilisvörösvár), Pest, Hungary * Böhringer or Piringer (from Baden-Württemberg) Hasenfratz (from Baden-Württemberg) ---------------------------------------------------- *Szár, Fejér, Hungary* Hasenfratz (from Baden-Württemberg) Heinermann ---------------------------------------------------- Complete locations and Austro-Hungarian ancestral surnames on my Google map: https://goo.gl/41ERWU and ancestor chart: http://zandergenealogy.com/charts/klein_chart.php Karen Zander On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 2:08 PM, Karen Dalton Preston < Karen@golden-hills.com> wrote: > For those of you who are new to the List, and may be wondering about the > “Roll Call” posts, this is an annual notice to other list members about the > surnames and villages you are researching. > > This helps others who may be working on the same family lines to connect > and share information. You may even find a cousin! > > Some guidelines: > - Keep it brief - list the surname (and a few spelling variations) along > with the village or villages where your ancestors lived. > - Identifying a specific village increases the chances that you’ll get a > response, particularly if you are working on a common surname like SCHMIDT. > - Don’t post all the details of your entire Banat family tree. > > —Karen > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message