Don't know if this has already been posted to the list or not, but a trailer for the Forgotten Genocide project by the students in St. Louis is up on YouTube now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn0YUsKNv1E Scott

Hello! On 26th of February 2010 there a conference on ethnic Germans is planned, out Danube Swabians included. It is hoped that the film "The Forgotten Genocide" will have its debut there. Below is their program: - Rosina The Forgotten Genocide Lecture Series Confluence Room February 26, 2010, Friday 11:00am Dr. Andreas Wesserle Professor of History and Political Science College of Political Science, University of Munich College of Political Science, University of Wisconsin Dr. Wesserle will be speaking on the history of the ethnic Germans beginning before World War I through present day. Documents drafted throughout that time will be used to prove the knowledge of many governments before, during and after the ethnic German cleansing took place. 12:00pm Rudolph Pueschel Research Scientist NOAA at NASA Research and Arthur of the Czechoslovakian Nation In regards to the ethnic German cleansing Mr. Pueschel will lecture on the controversy surrounding Erika Steinbach taking a seat on the board of the foundation “Flight, Expulsion and Reconciliation” In this struggle she has to fight both German and Polish bureaucracies for the right to adequately represent the German expellees' interests. 1:00pm Lt. Col. Brian Landry Assistant Professor of Leadership and Ethics Air command and Staff College Department of Joint War fighting Lt. Col. Landy has written his thesis on the comparison between the leaders of prisoner of war camp survivors and the ethnic German death camp survivors. He will bring to light many psychological aspects of their survival and the differences between the POW's leaders and the death camp survivors ability or inability to live productive lives. 2:00pm Dr. Kearn Schemm Jr. Vice President German World Alliance/Deutsch Weltallanz Dr. Schemm will lecture on the World Wide War Against the Germans. Beginning in 1914 the war against ethnic Germans in the United States started with small changes, ending publication of German language newspapers, dropping the requirement of learning German in school. The small changes turned into larger changes which will be brought to our attention through Dr. Schemms lecture. 3:00pm Dr. Tom Sunic Croatian Diplomat PhD. Political Science at University of California Published Author on Cultural Pessimism, Heritage and Meta-Politics Writer and Translator of French, German, English and Croatian Dr. Sunic lecture is entitled The Fate of the Danube Germans in Yugoslavia in the Wake of WWII. The focus will be on what has happened to the ethnic German population in regards to their inability to take part in the political aspects of their home land. -------- For more info please contact Ann Morrison at ann5480@att.net

>From Bobby Nelson, Grants Pas, Oregon: Please continue to send me everything you have about Mt. Angel. My daughter and I visited there at Tulip time and was not aware of what the area was all about. I mean the Donaschwaben......We ate at the German Restaurant and that was great. I live in Grants Pas, Oregon [6 yrs.] I just recently found out your history. I AM A DONASCHWABEN. My mother born in Gizella Falva and my father in Deutsch Bentchek.My parents immigrated in 1907; I was the 3rd. child and raised in Chicago, Illinois. Who of you live close to me ???? Please contact me and perhaps we can meet and talk. Barbara Susanna Hubert Nelson BOBBY NELSON persistentwidow@msn.com

Hello Mt. Angel Travelers 2009! David Preston would like to make a 'photo album' in video and photos of our last Treffen at Mt. Angel. Isn't that wonderful??? So many of you have been making photos there and one even a video, so would you please send David at dpreston@golden-hills.com your best shots (OK all the good ones) to share with all of us? Now there is an opportunity for you to do a good deed in this our festive season. It will be much, much appreciated! Advent greetings, Rosina www.hrastovac.net

Nemci u Vojvodini Dr. Zoran Janjetović of Belgrade wrote a history of the Danube Swabians in the Vojvodina (in Serbian, 391 pages) and is now in print. The book is in the Serbian language with the title, Nemci u Vojvodini and is available for 25 Euros, with postage included. Anyone interested can contact me for Zoran's contact information as well as the Table of Contents and the book summary in English. John Michels Spokane

HelloTina, Please do send me your new e-address. Many thanks. Rosina T. Schmidt www.hrastovac.net

Thank You all (Dave, Laura, Cathy) for your help. It is VERY much appreciated. Today, December 10, Hertha Muller actually received the Nobel prize. The people from Nitzhydorf - the school, mayor's office, etc. - organized a manifestation honoring Hertha Muller and there was also a symposium about the Banat’s Schwaben. I presented the family tree of Hertha (in her father and mother lines). For this presentation I needed the info from Darowa FB. Best Regards, S o r i n http://www.genealogy.ro/contributions.htm

The NAGY-AG, Baranya family book has been published recently. The book can be purchased in North America through: Katharina Flaisch 21 Ellis Street PO Box 539 Smithville, Ontario, Canada L0R 2A0 The cost is 31 Euros plus shipment. You pay her in Canadian funds equivalent to the price in Euros. Advent greetings, Rosina www.hrastovac.net

Hi Sorin, SCHADT Peter *1775 Name auch Schaid, Schait, Scheid; Hb.DarHaus-Grundbesitzer: Peter Schad, ½ Ansaessigkeit-16 Joch und Haus 10; oo24.01.1797 Dar Tz: Carolus Bervanger, Andreas Angel BIRINGER Magdalena *um 1777 +29.12.1811 Dar There was no death date for Peter listed.                      If you need information about their children, please feel free to contact me directly. Sincerely, Cathy Teufel O’Neill

Hi everyone, Looking for info on Nicholas Buchheid ( Buchajt ) siblings and parents. I believe Nicholas was born in Szabadfalu/ Freidorf in about 1878. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again, Harold

I am preparing a scientific study about the ancestors of Hertha MULLER from Nitzkzdorf [winner of the Nobel prize for literature this year] and I need quickly some help with a lock-up in Darowa Familienbuch about Magdalena SCHEID B. 19.01.1806, Darova, do Peter SCHEID & Magdalena BITLINGER M1. 22.04.1823, Darova, Georg Josef GION M2. 15.11.1848, Nitzkzdorf, Matthias FRISCH D. 14.09.1889, Nitzkzdorf I am interested in the B / M / D dates for Peter SCHEID & Magdalena BITLINGER. Thank You for the help, S o r i n http://www.genealogy.ro/contributions.htm

Karen Karbiener visiting Sekitsch: http://karbiener.lookingforwhitman.org/2009/11/08/love-love-will-keep-us-together/#more-359

An interesting NYTimes article on a remnant of Siebenburger Sachsen still living in today's Romania: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/06/world/europe/06romania.html?_r=1&ref=world Rosina

Rosina, that was very interesting. Boglárka

Wow! Thanks for the update, Tom. Mona > Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 16:19:09 -0800 > From: tomfar00@yahoo.com > To: banat-l@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BANAT-L] German Bible > > This item is now on hold. We have had big response so we went to the store and picked it up.. > > We find now it contains certain family history information about an > AAron and Anna Clouser from Tiffon Ohio. She died in 1878, annd he in > 1900. > > More later. Tom Farley > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, So would I. (Didn't know if you got my e-mail, Tom) :-) Mona > From: rwayne724@verizon.net > To: banat@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 13:53:19 -0500 > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] BANAT Digest, Vol 4, Issue 331 > > I would be interested in learning more about the Bible and purchasing it > Thanks > Roy Shiflet > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <banat-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <banat@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:01 AM > Subject: BANAT Digest, Vol 4, Issue 331 > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Marienfeld family book 1769-1991 (Ken Murphy) > > 2. Old German Language Bible (tom farley) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 09:02:15 -0700 > > From: Ken Murphy <kmurph@worldnet.att.net> > > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Marienfeld family book 1769-1991 > > To: charles sehner <chas.pat@knology.net> > > Cc: BANAT-L@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <4B153E07.3090405@worldnet.att.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > Charles, all I find is Alexander KOCSIS married to Rosa NAGY (#5229) and > > Anton KOCSIS b. about 1920 (#5230). Any alternate surname spellings I > > can check for you? > > > > -- Ken > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 15:37:15 -0800 (PST) > > From: tom farley <tomfar00@yahoo.com> > > Subject: [BANAT-L] Old German Language Bible > > To: banat-l@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <655901.44504.qm@web53004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > Our local Hospice Store here in Mansfield, Ohio where Esther works as a > > volunteer has an old (1842) German Language bible for sale but they don"t > > know what it is worth, but usally sell items at a reasonable price. > > > > The script is so different that it is difficult for me to make out many of > > the words on the front page. If anyone has an interest, I could get a > > better description of the condition etc., and I could send an image to > > view, and I would be happy to pack and ship if anyone is really interested > > in buying same. Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To contact the BANAT list administrator, send an email to > > BANAT-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > To post a message to the BANAT mailing list, send an email to > > BANAT@rootsweb.com. > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > > of the > > email with no additional text. > > > > > > End of BANAT Digest, Vol 4, Issue 331 > > ************************************* > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Germany still paying off £50million in reparations following World War One By Allan Hall Last updated at 1:38 AM on 03rd December 2009 Germany is still paying off £50million of the 'reparations' demanded from it after the end of First World War. The German Finance Agency, its authority on debt management, said tens of millions of euros are still being transferred to private individuals holding debenture bonds as agreed under the Treaty of Versailles signed on June 28, 1919. The bonds were issued at the time to investors 'The still-open contract for interest and amortisation payments is around €56 million,' said spokesman Boris Knapp. 'That is the debt that is still outstanding from all those years ago but Germany will make good on it.' The news that modern-day Germany is still in debt for one world war that laid the foundations for the next was revealed by the agency after a written request by a newspaper. With the signing of the Versailles accord Germany accepted blame for the war which cost nine million men their lives. Article 231 of the peace treaty the so-called 'war guilt' clause - declared Germany and Austria-Hungary responsible for all 'loss and damage' suffered by the Allies during the war and provided the basis for reparations. The treaty was despised by Germans and seized upon by the Nazis to foster a feeling of victimhood among their followers. The initial sum agreed upon for war damages in 1919 was 226 billion Reichsmarks, a sum later reduced to 132 billion. In sterling at the time this was the equivalent of some 24 billion pounds. France, which had been ravaged by war – its farmlands devastated by battles, industries laid waste and some three million men dead – pushed hardest for the steepest possible fiscal punishment for Germany. The principal representative of the British Treasury at the Paris Peace Conference, John Maynard Keynes, resigned in June 1919 in protest at the scale of the demands, warning correctly that it was stoking the fires for another war in the future. 'Germany will not be able to formulate correct policy if it cannot finance itself,' he warned. When the Wall Street Crash came in 1929, the Weimar Republic – Germany’s first and only democracy until after the defeat of Nazism in 1945 – spiraled into debt. What the Bank of England calls ‘quantitative easing’ now was started in Germany with the printing of money to pay off the war debt, triggering inflation to the point where ten billion marks would not even buy a loaf of bread. Up until 1952 Germany had paid some 1.5 billion marks in war reparations to Allied countries. But in 1953 the balance was suspended pending a reunification of East and West Germany. On October 3, 1990, the old debts went into effect again with 20 years for payment. Germany plans to pay off its World War I debts by October 3, next year. What the Bank of England calls ‘quantitative easing’ now was started in Germany with the printing of money to pay off the war debt, triggering inflation to the point where ten billion marks would not even buy a loaf of bread. Up until 1952 Germany had paid some 1.5 billion marks in war reparations to Allied countries. But in 1953 the balance was suspended pending a reunification of East and West Germany. On October 3, 1990, the old debts went into effect again with 20 years for payment. Germany plans to pay off its World War I debts by October 3, next year. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1232625/Germany-paying-50million-reparations-following-World-War-One--90-years-on.html#ixzz0YajnqQli Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1232625/Germany-paying-50million-reparations-following-World-War-One--90-years-on.html#ixzz0YaieqSli Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1232625/Germany-paying-50million-reparations-following-World-War-One--90-years-on.html#ixzz0YaiVnyLs Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1232625/Germany-paying-50million-reparations-following-World-War-One--90-years-on.html#ixzz0YaiNdAfW Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1232625/Germany-paying-50million-reparations-following-World-War-One--90-years-on.html#ixzz0YaeXA8Oo Delegates gather in the hall in the Trianon during the signing of the Treaty of Versailles, a peace treaty that officially ended World War I in June 1919 Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1232625/Germany-paying-50million-reparations-following-World-War-One--90-years-on.html#ixzz0YakCRcPT Crowds outside the Palace of Versailles awaiting the signal that the peace treaty had been signed Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1232625/Germany-paying-50million-reparations-following-World-War-One--90-years-on.html#ixzz0YakMhSP8 German infantrymen dig trenches in norther France during World War One Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1232625/Germany-paying-50million-reparations-following-World-War-One--90-years-on.html#ixzz0YakWXKjk Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1232625/Germany-paying-50million-reparations-following-World-War-One--90-years-on.html#ixzz0YajnqQli

This item is now on hold. We have had big response so we went to the store and picked it up.. We find now it contains certain family history information about an AAron and Anna Clouser from Tiffon Ohio. She died in 1878, annd he in 1900. More later. Tom Farley

I would be interested in learning more about the Bible and purchasing it Thanks Roy Shiflet ----- Original Message ----- From: <banat-request@rootsweb.com> To: <banat@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:01 AM Subject: BANAT Digest, Vol 4, Issue 331 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Marienfeld family book 1769-1991 (Ken Murphy) > 2. Old German Language Bible (tom farley) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 09:02:15 -0700 > From: Ken Murphy <kmurph@worldnet.att.net> > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Marienfeld family book 1769-1991 > To: charles sehner <chas.pat@knology.net> > Cc: BANAT-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4B153E07.3090405@worldnet.att.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Charles, all I find is Alexander KOCSIS married to Rosa NAGY (#5229) and > Anton KOCSIS b. about 1920 (#5230). Any alternate surname spellings I > can check for you? > > -- Ken > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 15:37:15 -0800 (PST) > From: tom farley <tomfar00@yahoo.com> > Subject: [BANAT-L] Old German Language Bible > To: banat-l@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <655901.44504.qm@web53004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Our local Hospice Store here in Mansfield, Ohio where Esther works as a > volunteer has an old (1842) German Language bible for sale but they don"t > know what it is worth, but usally sell items at a reasonable price. > > The script is so different that it is difficult for me to make out many of > the words on the front page. If anyone has an interest, I could get a > better description of the condition etc., and I could send an image to > view, and I would be happy to pack and ship if anyone is really interested > in buying same. Tom > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BANAT list administrator, send an email to > BANAT-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BANAT mailing list, send an email to > BANAT@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of BANAT Digest, Vol 4, Issue 331 > ************************************* >

Our local Hospice Store here in Mansfield, Ohio where Esther works as a volunteer has an old (1842) German Language bible for sale but they don"t know what it is worth, but usally sell items at a reasonable price. The script is so different that it is difficult for me to make out many of the words on the front page. If anyone has an interest, I could get a better description of the condition etc., and I could send an image to view, and I would be happy to pack and ship if anyone is really interested in buying same. Tom