Helen.....   Here are some entries from the Grossjetscha OSB that may be of help to you   v85. 6. Vingero Mathias 20jc *01.07.1817 Gj Sv.4.Wingero Ni.&Helman El. v82. †Vingero Mathias nr117 †09.11.1866 Gj (48j)<cj Götter Bar. 1.oo10.02.1839 Gj Z:Paul Helman,Nic.Veber *3.Bauer.*9.Gastwirt&Bauer 1.Achum Sus. 19jc *30.06.1820 Gj Tv.4.Achum Pet.&Weber Mg. a7. †Vingero Sus.*Achum †02.02.1840 Gj (22j)<Mathia 7. 2.oo16.02.1841 Gj 7.Vingero-w Math. oo22j Z:Nic.Veber,Laur.Beißser 2.Getter Barbara 17jc *27.10.1823 Gj Tv.1.Göttert Joa.&Peißser A. g331. 1.1 Susanna<†Cath. *01.01.1840 Gj †10.02.1892 Gj (52j)<f Math.&Cath. oo 2.2Joannes *17.02.1842 Gj<Götter oo08.06.1865 Gj Kaufman A. v87. oo 3.2Nicolaus *13.01.1844 Gj†27.02.1903 oo24.09.1867 Gj Gimpel Cat. v88. oo 4.2Mathias *02.01.1846 Gj†27.02.1886 oo05.02.1871 Gj Mersch Cat. v90. 5.2Adam *1848 †09.09.1849 Gj (1,5j)<M.&B.Getter 6.2Barbara *01.02.1850 Gj †16.09.1850 Gj (0,5j)<M.&B.Götter 7.2Elisabetha *07.08.1851 Gj<Götter 8.2Maria nr117 *20.03.1854 Gj<Götter oo 9.2Josephus nr117 *16.02.1860 Gj<Götter oo22.01.1884 Gj Mettler Bar. v91. 10.2Barbara nr117 *17.06.1862 Gj*<Götter †Nt Paten:*1.Math.Brier&Cath.Vingero.*2.Joan.Getter&Barb.Vingero.*3.Nic.Racher&illona Klingler.*4.Math.Veber&Apollonia Schmidt.*6.Joan.Michls&Barb.Szlavik.*7.Jos.Jochum Elis.Ebner.*8.Jos.Vuchetics<notar&Maria Vuchetics<cj.*9.Jos.Jochum&Sus.Martiny. 　 v82. 4. Wingero Nicolaus c. *20.05.1786 Gj Sv.Vingero Bar.&Perterom O. v79. †Vingero Nicolaus †26.10.1845 (61j)<Cath. Glasz oo10.02.1805 Gj Z:Jac.Schmids,Joa.Geo.Hartmann /2.geb:Schütz> 1.Helmann Elis.virgo *13.12.1786 Gj Tv.2.Helmon J.&Bernard Mg. h157. †Vingero Elisabetha †03.06.1823 Gj (36j)<nr162 4a. oo Wingero-w Nicolaus 2.Glasz-w Catharina <uxor Glasz N. geb:Schütz Cath. 2.*Schütz Catharina * Tv. oo 1.1Catharina *14.11.1805 Gj oo03.07.1825 Gj Riekert Ant. r158. 2.1Angela *23.09.1807 Gj oo 3.1Elisabetha Vingero *05.01.1811 Gj oo07.02.1830 Gj Folmer Joa. f111. 4.1Christina Vingero *13.04.1813 Gj †24.05.1815 Gj (2j)<N.&E.Helman oo 5.1Eva *23.05.1815 Gj†22.02.1888 oo30.01.1838 Gj Racher Nic. r6. oo 6.1Mathias Vingero zw *01.07.1817 Gj†09.11.1866 oo10.02.1839 Gj Achum Sus. v85. 6.1Philippus zw *01.07.1817 Gj †02.08.1817 Gj (5w)<N.&E.Helman 7.1Antonius Vingero *29.08.1819 Gj †19.04.1825 Gj (5j)<nr162 oo 8.1Barbara Vingero *18.02.1822 Gj oo14.02.1843 Gj Vaidman-w v3. 9.2Antonius Vingero *12.06.1825 Gj<Schütz C ooEichert Agnes FB Kn Gunhild Christian †22.08.1897 Kn (74j) Pat.*1.Eberhard Glaas<Billed&Cath.<conjug.*2.Jac.Schmidt&Angela Weber<uxor Nicol. *3.Jac.Bernard&Elis.Rost.*4.Math.Racher&Christina Bernard.*5.Joan.Weber&Eva Nagel. *6.Math.Racher&Cath.<conjug.*6.Phil.Peißser&Cath.Schmid.*7.Anton Muth&Angela Peißser.*8.Seb.Eisler&Barb.<conjug.*9.Anton Ebner&Anna Miskovzky. v79. 1. Vingero Bartholomaus *26.05.1741 Loth.Virning Sv.Vigneron Pierre&Karst Marie Cat. W177 Kj oo28.08.1770 Gj Virming Morhange †07.10.1788 Gj (47j) * Pertermon Ottilia *1738 †25.08.1816 Gj Tv. oo Pertermon Ottilia oo Wingerom-w Ottilia oo13.01.1789 Gj 2.Rager Ma. r19. 1.Andreas *12.04.1772 Gj oo 2.Catharina *22.07.1774 Gj†29.01.1835 oo12.05.1789 Gj Shmid Jac. s192. oo 3.Angela Wingerom *08.08.1775 Gj†12.08.1849 oo08.05.1792 Gj Payszer Ph. p3. 4.Elisabetha *25.09.1776 Gj /†nr39 †08.12.1777 Gj (1,25j)<Bartholmi 0.Johann *25.09.1778 Kj oo 5.Margarita *21.12.1781 Gj oo29.01.1799 Gj 5.Gilliom Th g197. 6.Elisabetha Margarita *25.07.1784 Gj †04.01.1786 Gj (1j)<Bartholmi oo 7.Nicolaus Wingerom *20.05.1786 Gj†26.10.1845 oo10.02.1805 Gj Helmann El. v82. Paten:*1.A Kegler&virgine Eva Johamin.*2.Joan.Divo&C Joham.*3.Joan.Georg Czving A Johamin.*4.Joan.Pet.Knapp&E Joham.*5.Nic.Tüx&M Rikerd.*6.Joan.Zimerman&Marg. Albert.*7.N Tüx&Angela Czimerman. FB Kj Giel Dietmar 2001 WK 114/24 Wien 02.04.1770 Bartholome Vigneron Schneider aus Deutsch Lothringen. FB Virming Vincent Kiefer 1994 S160. Pigneron Bartelme 28j Ankunft 01.05.1770 Gj <Racher Johann g220. 3. Gimpl Carolus juvenis †Gimpel Carolus *1767 †25.04.1835 Gj (68j)<cj Marg. 1.oo17.02.1789 Gj Z:Eckhard.&Joan.Shmidt, 2. geb:Jochum nr40> 1.Wolf Elisabeth virgo *1763 Tv.Wolf Fried.&Anna Kath. w321. †Gimpel Elisabetha †27.03.1809 Gj (46j)<conj.Caroli 5. 2.oo11.05.1809 Gj 5.Gimpel-w Carolus Z:Franc.Gimpel,Mich.Jochem 2.Weber-w Margaretha < Weber Petrus geb.Jochum Margaretha w116. 2.*Jochum Margaretha * Tv. †Jochum Margaretha nr30 †21.07.1860 Gj (xj) vidua Gimpel C 1.1Joannes *22.09.1790 Gj 2.1Mathias *15.08.1793 Gj †21.08.1793 Gj (2w)<Caroli oo 3.1Georgius *08.09.1794 Gj†02.01.1868 oo21.07.1816 Gj Kiefer Marg. g226. oo 4.1Jacobus *17.08.1797 Gj oo13.09.1818 Gj Weber Ang. g227. 5.1Franciscus *10.02.1800 Gj †04.09.1800 Gj (1j)<Karl Gimbel oo 6.1Antonius *11.06.1802 Gj†18.07.1845 oo24.04.1825 Gj Heleman M. g231. oo 7.1Petrus *28.02.1806 Gj oo04.06.1826 Gj Berger Barb. g233. oo 8.2Margaretha *15.07.1810 Gj oo10.02.1828 Gj 4.Divo Joan. d70. oo 9.2Catharina *19.11.1812 Gj†20.04.1893 oo22.05.1832 Gj 3.Hieb Dev. h240. oo 10.2.Susanna Gimpel *15.06.1815 Gj†17.10.1860 oo03.02.1833 Gj Folmer Fra. f113. oo 11.2Anna Maria *21.07.1816 Gj†28.02.1892 oo07.02.1836 Ah Hentzel Ge. h192. oo 12.2.Eva Gimpel *02.12.1817 Gj<Jochem M oo20.07.1837 Kj Denjer Joh. T35. FB Kj Giel Dietmar 2001 †Kleinjetscha †20.04.1904 Kj (StaReg) oo 13.2.Magdalena Gimpel *24.12.1819 Gj†17.09.1883 1oo07.02.1836 Gj Beisser Ph b148. oo Beißser-w Magd. 2oo21.09.1856 Gj Vendel S. w64. ooVendl-w Magd. 3oo21.02.1862 Gj Jergens S. j33. oo 14.2Joan. Gympel nr47 *14.04.1823 Gj†25.06.1872 oo10.05.1862 Gj Trendler Md. g253. oo 15.2.Josephus Gimpel *17.12.1825 Gj†19.04.1905 oo10.02.1846 Gj Ludvig Sus. g241. Paten:*1.J Volf&A Maria Gimpel.*2.M Tüx&Gert.Kler.*3.G Gimpl&Marg.Mersh.*4.J Steur&Angela Petri.*5.F Gimpl&Anna Gimpl.*6.A Artzner&Elis.Petri.*7.P Kaut<scrinarius Elis.Dormutz<uxor Nicol..*8.Conr.Waldner&Marg.<conjug.*9.Joan.Schmid&Cath.<conjug. *10.Pet.Kiefer&Sus.Gimplin.*11.Nic.Wilhelm&A M Gimpel.*12.Jos.Ott&Eva Nagel. *13.Jos.Folmer&Magd.<conjug.*14.Joan.Thor&Eva Thor.*15.Jos.Folmer&Magd.Folmer. FB Ah Schuch Helene 2001 Ken Christie (njgcards@yahoo.com) 112 Indigo Cove Kyle, TX 78640 --- On Sat, 1/9/10, helen <helen@dubas.org> wrote: From: helen <helen@dubas.org> Subject: [BANAT-L] Roll Call To: banat@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 10:01 AM Roll Call  2010 Remich, Uivar/ Gross Jetscha/Szollos need parents of Antonio Remich 1816-1820- died 1896 GJ Römich, Gross Jetscha – my line descends from Michael Romich who was son of Antonio Mutter, Gross Jetscha – Jacobus Mutter 1738-1810  need his father, Joseph Ott, Gross Jetscha – have back to Ruppertus Ott 1729-1789GJ – need his father Wingeron/Vingero, GJ –gggrandfather Mathias 1817-1866 need back to Pierre Vignoron Gimpel, Jochem, Hu,– Gross Jetscha - Maier - Perjamosch Schneider, – Mercidorf – Jacob 1864-1932 – need his parents Berg – Mercidorf – Magdalena 1876-1961 – need father, Jacob? Stahl– Bogarosch/Lowrin – Mathias 1807 (lowrin) 1865+ Bogarosch – need his parents Bucher –Bogarosch/Lenauheim Christian 1790 (Lenauheim) 1859+ Bo, need father Mathias Laub – Bogarosch – Peter 1804-1857 – need his parents Beringer/Biringer/Piringer, – Bogarosch Johan 1745-1828 – need his parents Nischbach, Neubeschnowa/Niederkahl –Mathias 1716 (Niederkahl)–1786+Neu need his father Joh.Peter Nischbach Gille/Giele, Mary/Marianna abt.1877 –my ggrandmother – need further back to father of Johan Gill 1812-1856 Weber, Wersching, Kurtz, Lang, Ludwig, Neubeschowna Dubas, Philip and Eva Bida from the Ukraine but spent some time in Germany Regards, Helen Remich Dubas helen@dubas.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Heufeld/Massdorf Heimatbuch, by Gerhardt et al. does NOT contain a list of those from these two villages who died in World War I Does anyone have a list of these casualties? Dave Dreyer

Deborah, All the official documentations older than 100 years are to be found in the archives of the individual province, state, etc. When dealing with Europe, please remember that during the WWI and WWII many archives have been bombed, burned or such and much of the history of the land and people was destroyed for ever. The main archives of Hungary are in Budapest. Each province has also its own archives. Rosina www.hrastovac.net > Hello Dave and Louisa, > > Who has the Hungarian government's passport documentation at present? Our > family does not have any of the passports so does an archives in Europe > have > them? Are the health examination records at the ports of departure still > extant? > > Deborah >

The Forgotten Genocide Lecture Series Saint Louis Community College-Meramec 11333 Big Bend Road, St. Louis Mo. 63122-5720 Meramec Theater Friday February 26, 2010 www.stlcc.edu 9:00am Dr. Andreas Wesserle Professor of History and Political Science College of Political Science, University of Munich College of Political Science, University of Wisconsin Dr. Wesserle will be speaking on the history of the ethnic Germans beginning before World War I through present day. Documents drafted throughout that time will be used to prove the knowledge of many governments before, during and after the ethnic German cleansing took place. 10:00am Rudolph Pueschel Research Scientist NOAA at NASA Research and Author of The Czechoslovakian Nation: In regards to the ethnic German cleansing Mr. Pueschel will lecture on the controversy surrounding Erika Steinbach taking a seat on the board of the foundation “Flight, Expulsion and Reconciliation” In this struggle she has fought both German and Polish bureaucracies for the right to adequately represent the German expellees' interests. 11:00am Lt. Col. Brian Landry Ph. D. Assistant Professor of Leadership and Ethics Air command and Staff College Department of Joint War fighting Dr. Landy has written his thesis on the comparison between the leaders of prisoner of war camp survivors and the ethnic German death camp survivors. He will speak about many psychological aspects of their survival as well as the death camp survivors ability to live productive lives. 12:00pm Dr. Kearn Schemm Jr. Lawyer, U.S. Diplomat, Human Rights Activist Vice President German World Alliance/Deutsch Weltallanz Dr. Schemm will speak about the World Wide War Against the Germans. Beginning in 1914 the war against ethnic Germans in the United States started with small changes, from ending publication of German language newspapers to eliminating the requirement of German language courses in school. The small changes turned into larger changes which will be brought to our attention through Dr. Schemms lecture. Adding to the information Mr. Fuhr discusses in his lecture being held Thursday February 25th at 11:00am in Rooms 200 & 201 on the 2nd floor of the Student Center. 1:00pm Mr. Adam Martini Survivor and Speaker We can hear all the statistics and the political reasons behind the horror, but no one can tell of the pain and suffering like a person who survived it. Adam Martini tells of the families choice to flee then return to something unimaginable. There's trains, planes and even horses in the years spent trying to survive in an ethnic German cleansing no one seems to know about. Not only will you know about it after you hear him speak, but you may come to appreciate the pain a person can endure. 2:00pm Karen Karbiener Ph. D. Columbia University Professor New York University 2009-2010 Fulbright Fellow, University of Novi Sad, Serbia 2009-2010 Kluge Fellow, Library of Congress, Washington, DC 2008-2009 and 2009-2010 Recipient of National Endowment of the Humanities Grants Dr. Karbiener received a U.S. Fulbright award this year for her current book project, a work of creative non-fiction exploring her family's Vojvodina roots. She will present the historical framework of the project, and discuss examples of the psychological and emotional complexity of her “return” to Serbia, 65 years after her family members were expelled from their homes and placed in Tito's forced labor camps. Her focus will be on her visit with the current residents of her fathers former home in Lovcenac (formerly Sekitsch). ..............................................................................................................

The Forgotten Genocide Lecture Series St Louis Community College-Meramec 11333 Big Bend Road, Kirk wood, Mo 63122-5720 Lecture Series, Rm 200, 201 Student Center Thursday February 25, 2010 www.stlcc.edu 9:00am Elizabeth Walter Bachelors of Art Teacher, Artist, Author & Publicist Barefoot in the Rubble Mrs. Walter is a published Arthur and speaker on the Ethnic German Cleansing. She will be sharing her story about the years she spent in death camps as well as her fathers story of being in a Ukrainian labor camp. 10:00pm Joseph Simon Historian, Librarian Mr. Simon has devoted years of research in the expulsion of the ethnic German cleansing. His knowledge of the history of the ethnic Germans in eastern Europe will be shared as well as the reasons for the expulsion. 11:00am Eberhard Fuhr Retired Marketing and Sales Management BA Ohio University, MBA University of Wisconsin The prewar Alien Registration Act of 1940, whereby an eternal passport was required; the arrest of 60,000 “mostly German” according to the Assistant Attorney General Hearings whereby, lawyers were prohibited will be one of many issues discussed. Mr. Fuhr goes in depth about the FDR Exclusion order #9066; the location of 50 internment facilities, life in internment and indefinite terms will be discussed using a Power Point Presentation. This lecture will be complimented by the lecture given by Dr. Kearn Schemm on Friday, February 26th at 12:00PM in the Meramec Theater. 12:00pm Dr. Tom Sunic U. S. Professor and Author Ph. D. Political Science at University of California Published Author on Cultural Pessimism, Heritage and Meta-Politics Writer and Translator of French, German, English and Croatian Dr. Sunics' lecture is entitled The Fate of the Danube Germans in Yugoslavia in the Wake of WWII. The focus will be on what has happened to the ethnic German population in regards to their inability to take part in the political aspects of their home land. .............................................................

Robert, > Tv means Tochter von or daughter of. Aus RSP means from the village. RSP is a village abbreviation And RSP means Ratz Sankt Peter (Großsanktpeter or Serbisch Sanktpeter), there is a family book of Ratzsanktkpeter , but I do not have it Regards Anni > > In the Perjamosch FB I find a woman Marianna Hollerbach who is listed as "T.v. ... aus RSP." What might that mean? ___________________________________________________________ Preisknaller: WEB.DE DSL Flatrate für nur 16,99 Euro/mtl.! http://produkte.web.de/go/02/

Hi Cathy, >I have always thought that it was possible that Leonhard?s family had settled in Hungary in the early part of the 18th century - particularly since Leonhard did not pass through Vienna. The emigrants mostly passed Vienna, but before 1750 there was no continuously registration. >My fellow researcher says he spoke to a priest at the Tevel church who confirmed that there were? no records for this time period.?? Henry Fischer has told me that the church in Tevel was built in the 1720's, and he said that the Tevel book does not indicate that records are missing. I agree to Henry: no time period in Tevel is missing, all microfilms are at SLC: see http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titlefilmnotes&columns=*%2C0%2C0&titleno=438289&disp=Anyak%C3%B6nyvek++ I agree to follow all leads to all Teufels - but it is worth to follow the wifes too - may be you get valuable hints for further research for your Teufels. earlier you wrote: > Has anyone on this list ever used Die mainfrankische Auswanderung nach Ungarn und den Oesterr. Erblaendern im 18. Jahrhundert von Alfons Prenzinger? I forgot the question, here is an answer: 2 entries on p 117: Adam Teuffel, Beckstein, 200 fl. 1744 Margarete Teufelin Beckstein 135 fl. 1767 Beckstein is now part of Lauda-Koenigshofen see: http://gov.genealogy.net/ShowObjectSimple.do?id=BECEINJN49UM regards Guenter

Roll Call 2010 Remich, Uivar/ Gross Jetscha/Szollos need parents of Antonio Remich 1816-1820- died 1896 GJ Römich, Gross Jetscha – my line descends from Michael Romich who was son of Antonio Mutter, Gross Jetscha – Jacobus Mutter 1738-1810 need his father, Joseph Ott, Gross Jetscha – have back to Ruppertus Ott 1729-1789GJ – need his father Wingeron/Vingero, GJ –gggrandfather Mathias 1817-1866 need back to Pierre Vignoron Gimpel, Jochem, Hu,– Gross Jetscha - Maier - Perjamosch Schneider, – Mercidorf – Jacob 1864-1932 – need his parents Berg – Mercidorf – Magdalena 1876-1961 – need father, Jacob? Stahl– Bogarosch/Lowrin – Mathias 1807 (lowrin) 1865+ Bogarosch – need his parents Bucher –Bogarosch/Lenauheim Christian 1790 (Lenauheim) 1859+ Bo, need father Mathias Laub – Bogarosch – Peter 1804-1857 – need his parents Beringer/Biringer/Piringer, – Bogarosch Johan 1745-1828 – need his parents Nischbach, Neubeschnowa/Niederkahl –Mathias 1716 (Niederkahl)–1786+Neu need his father Joh.Peter Nischbach Gille/Giele, Mary/Marianna abt.1877 –my ggrandmother – need further back to father of Johan Gill 1812-1856 Weber, Wersching, Kurtz, Lang, Ludwig, Neubeschowna Dubas, Philip and Eva Bida from the Ukraine but spent some time in Germany Regards, Helen Remich Dubas helen@dubas.org

Hello! As we know the 30-year war in Europe ended in 1648. Large areas in what is today Germany was totally depopulated. But not so in Switzerland, which became independent from the Holly Roman Empire that same year. Switzerland had actually a population explosion about that time, and after the war ended thousands of Swiss people rushed into southern Germanic areas and settled there. Some of those descendants eventually emigrated to the New World of Canada and USA. NORBERT EMMERICH just published a book covering the Swiss settlers to Heidelberg in Baden: "SCHWEIZER (Einwanderer) IN HEIDELBERG" nach dem dreißigjährigen Krieg". 600 pages with a list of 1600 Swiss families, who settled in Heidelberg. It costs Euros 31.00 plus shipment. To order please write to verwaltung@ahnenpuzzle.com Rosina www.hrastovac.net

Thanks Dave! I knew someone would be able to figure this out. I found another woman from RSP, so I knew it wasn't a misprint. Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Dreyer" <ddreyer@pacbell.net> To: "Robert Evensen" <revensen@comcast.net>; "'Banat List'" <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] RSP > Robert; > RSP = Raaz St Peter = Neu- und Gr St Peter > Dave Dreyer > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Evensen" <revensen@comcast.net> > To: "'Banat List'" <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 12:54 PM > Subject: [BANAT-L] RSP > > >> In the Perjamosch FB I find a woman Marianna Hollerbach who is listed as >> "T.v. ... aus RSP." What might that mean? >> >> Robert >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >

Robert; RSP = Raaz St Peter = Neu- und Gr St Peter Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Evensen" <revensen@comcast.net> To: "'Banat List'" <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 12:54 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] RSP > In the Perjamosch FB I find a woman Marianna Hollerbach who is listed as > "T.v. ... aus RSP." What might that mean? > > Robert > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

In the Perjamosch FB I find a woman Marianna Hollerbach who is listed as "T.v. ... aus RSP." What might that mean? Robert

As you can read on the www.molidorf.com pages, the conference in St. Louis, MO is scheduled for February 25th to 27th. The film "The Forgotten Genocide" will be premiered there. Lucky for all of you, who will be able to attend. Rosina www.hrastovac.net

Robert, Tv means Tochter von or daughter of. Aus RSP means from the village. RSP is a village abbreviation but I don't know which one, sorry, Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Evensen<mailto:revensen@comcast.net> To: 'Banat List'<mailto:BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 1:54 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] RSP In the Perjamosch FB I find a woman Marianna Hollerbach who is listed as "T.v. ... aus RSP." What might that mean? Robert ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:BANAT-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Schwaebische Word for Palatschinken? We were a catholic family and because of the "no meat on Friday" we would have potato soup and "thin pancakes ". My mother would make them as we ate and we would fill them with jelly. She had a difficult time keeping up with us. My grown children still ask for them although we have outgrown the potato soup. It, too, was good. Ann Hwass ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.129/2606 - Release Date: 01/07/10 14:35:00 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To: John McClellan I remember them being called "Pollachinka". I had a fondness for the ones filled with cottage cheese. I've pasted in a recipe (not mine) for them below: GROSSE PANAKUCHEN (Large Thin Pancakes) (From Lefor Cookbook) Ingredients 5 eggs, beaten 2 cups flour 2 tsp sugar 1 tsp salt 3 Tbsp cooking oil 2-1/2 cups milk Directions Beat eggs; add salt, sugar and flour alternatively with milk until smooth and thin. Pour 1/4 cup batter into a greased hot pan so it covers all of the bottom of the pan. Swirl pan to make sure batter is spread thin. Fry very quickly on both sides until a light, golden brown. Fill with jelly or fruit. Roll up and serve hot. Should make about 20 pancakes. Goes well with bean or potato soup.

I am out of the office from Fri 01/08/2010 until Sat 01/09/2010. I will respond to your message when I return. Note: This is an automated response to your message "BANAT Digest, Vol 5, Issue 12" sent on 1/8/10 3:02:46. This is the only notification you will receive while this person is away.

My family made a crepe style pancake that we called Dina-pahn-a-kuka. It was our take on Dünnepfannkucken (not sure this is a correct spelling though). We sprinkled ours with sugar and cinnamon. We loved them fresh and warm right out of the frying pan. 3 eggs 1 Cup flour ( approx.) 1 cup milk sugar - heaping Tablespoon + dash It's a thin batter. Heat the pan with oil. Put in enough batter to make about a 10 inch pancake. Roll it around to cover the bottom of the pan. When it has browned a little, turn it over, and finish the other side. It doesn't take long. Serve as soon as possible. My maternal grandparents and great grandparents (1907), my paternal grandparents and my father(1913)--though he was born in Konak--all came from Franzfeld, Austria-Hungary, and all immigrated to Mansfield, OH Maternal: HALLABRIN Paternal: WAGENHALS Marcia Fay (WAGENHALS) Cobb (Formerly of Mansfield, Ohio) Newberg, OR

John, What was it your grandmother called them? It wasn't by any chance something similar to the French word "crepes," was it? We called them "pallichinka" (definitely not the right spelling, but that's how I remember it sounding) but that was more than likely just our mangling of the proper name, since we were pretty much English-only speakers. Mona > From: j.a.mcclellan@csuohio.edu > To: BANAT@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 15:00:44 -0500 > Subject: [BANAT-L] Schwaebische Word for Palatschinken? > > Is there a different schwaebische word for palatschinken? Thin, crepe-like > pancakes filled with various types of fillings? My great-grandmother used to > make them all the time, filled with cheese, but my grandmother doesn't seem > to recognize (or remember) the term "palatschinken." Thanks.John > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John, et al: My mother made these as a dessert with grape jelly filling. We used to roll our own and put the grape jelly and a sugar/cinnamon mixture on them. The recipe has been handed down and now my wife makes them in a large frying pan about 10" in diameter. Really good. Mike -----Original Message----- From: banat-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:banat-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John McClellan Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:01 PM To: BANAT@rootsweb.com Subject: [BANAT-L] Schwaebische Word for Palatschinken? Is there a different schwaebische word for palatschinken? Thin, crepe-like pancakes filled with various types of fillings? My great-grandmother used to make them all the time, filled with cheese, but my grandmother doesn't seem to recognize (or remember) the term "palatschinken." Thanks.John ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message