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John; Use the German spelling, e.g Kloster Neustadt. Put it into Google and you will likely find the place you are looking for. There is one Kloster Neustadt on the Weinstrasse. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: John Walter To: Dave Dreyer Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] [Akdff-l] Suchanfrage Ruskodorf One of my ancestors is Susann Heidenfelder. Susanna was born July 22,1801 in Nakodorf and was married on February 22, 1819 in Kis Orosz (Ruskodorf) to Kaspar Gripeltz. Susana was the daughter of Anton Heidenfelder and Margaretha ? Anton Heidenfelder was born September 17,1774 in Billed and was the son of Johann Heidenfelder and Anna Becker both from Closterneustadt. I could never find Closterneustadt on any map. John Walter P.S. wa bornin Ruskodorf --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Dave Dreyer <ddreyer@pacbell.net> wrote: From: Dave Dreyer <ddreyer@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] [Akdff-l] Suchanfrage Ruskodorf To: "Akdff-l" <akdff-l@genealogy.net> Cc: "Banat List" <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 4:12 PM Martin; Many details of this Heidenfelder family are given in the St Hubert Familienbuch by J Kuehn. Further details can be found in Kuehn"s Heueld/Massdorf Familienbuch. Details on the son Jakob and wife Magdalena MULSON are to be found in the St Hubert Familienbuch. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Block, Martin" <martin.block@sap.com> To: "Akdff-l" <akdff-l@genealogy.net> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:55 AM Subject: [Akdff-l] Suchanfrage Ruskodorf Hallo, wer von Euch forscht in Ruskodorf und könnte mir bei folgendem Paar weiterhelfen? 1.) Anton Heidenfelder, geb. um 1806 in Ruskodorf; Eltern: Anton Heidenfelder & Margarethe Witt 2.) Magdalena Milzung, geb. um 1812 Beide heiraten um 1832. Ich wäre für jede Information sehr dankbar! Viele Grüße Martin Block. ________________________________ From: akdff-l-bounces@genealogy.net [akdff-l-bounces@genealogy.net] On Behalf Of Stefan Prohaska [stefan.prohaska@ewetel.net] Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 7:14 PM To: 'Akdff-l' Subject: [Akdff-l] Suchanfrage Publikationen Sehr geehrte Listenteilnehmer, hat jemand von Ihnen evtl. eine Kopie von folgenden Publikationen und kann mir diese zusenden? Franz Karl Barth: „Ein gedruckter Werbezettel für die Auswanderungen nach Ungarn vom Jahre 1736“ Erschienen in den Deutsch-Ungarischen Heimatblättern 1, Jahr 1929, Seite 150-152 Márta Fata: „ Auswanderungen aus Württemberg nach Südosteuropa zwischen dem 17. und 19. Jahrhundert“ Erschienen in den Materialien-Band 1. Institut für donauschwäbische Geschichte und Landeskunde, 1993, Seite 24-40 Mit freundlichen Grüssen Stefan (Prohaska) _______________________________________________ Akdff-l mailing list Akdff-l@genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mm/listinfo/akdff-l _______________________________________________ Akdff-l mailing list Akdff-l@genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mm/listinfo/akdff-l ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Stephanie: I have been watching the emails regarding the name Koeppinger. I am not sure if the spelling changed in America, but my oldest sister was married to a Pete Koppinger from the Lefor/New England, ND area. I also have a cousin who was married to a Louis Koppinger from Regent, ND. Pete and Louie were cousins. They are now both deceased. Don't know if this helps in your search. Nancy Dorrheim Mandan, ND -----Original Message----- From: banat-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:banat-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of banat-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 2:01 AM To: banat@rootsweb.com Subject: BANAT Digest, Vol 5, Issue 32 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Roll Call (Stephanie Benjamin) (Dave Dreyer) 2. Re: Roll Call (Stephanie Benjamin) (Dave Dreyer) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:06:06 -0800 From: "Dave Dreyer" <ddreyer@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Roll Call (Stephanie Benjamin) To: "PETER MIKE" <pcmike@msn.com> Cc: Banat List <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <E60BBC24F6F2400BAB8077332C779A1C@D99J3Q21> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Peter; I don't have the addresses at hand and would have to hunt them up using Google. I will leave the search up to you----put some of the Bulgarian place nemes in Stephanie's message into the search slot to start. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: PETER MIKE To: Dave Dreyer Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 12:59 PM Subject: RE: [BANAT-L] Roll Call (Stephanie Benjamin) Dave: I read your message to Stephanie, and am interested in where I might read about the migration from Bulgaria. I found the Surname Miok in several Banat Cities: including Macedonia in the 1828 Hungarian Census. Thanks in advance for any info. Peter C. Mike (Miok) SOLUTIONS JIT Inc. 9351 Vallarta Trail Tucson, AZ 85749 www.solutionsjit.com pcmike@msn.com c 520-661-3213 p/f 520-749-3544 > From: ddreyer@pacbell.net > To: BANAT-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:32:40 -0800 > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Roll Call (Stephanie Benjamin) > > > > Stephanie; > > After 20 years on the Banat list someone after all this time comes up with > > ancestors from Bardarski Geran/Macadonia. > > Among the various ethnic groups which the Hapsburgs settled in the Banat > > was a group of Roman Catholic ethnic Bulgarians. These Catholics moved to > > the Banat from Bulgaria where they could join coreligionists. When the > > Russians drove the Turks out of Bulgaria and there was a greater degree of > > freedom of religion some of the Bulgarians started returning in 1887 to > > resettle in their old homeland. In time, firstly in 1893, ethnic German > > Banaters begin following these Bulgarians to settle in Bulgaria. The > > first group(of many) of seven families of German Banaters moved to > > Bardarski Geran in 1893. These families came mainly from Denta, > > Gertianosch, Homolitz and D Stamora. The returning Bulgarians came mainly > > from Wing, Bulgarische Kolonie and Alt Beschenowa. By 1936 there were > > about 90 German Banater families living in Bardarski Geran. Other > > Bulgarian towns with Banater colonists were Tsarev Brod/Shumen and > > Gostily/Pleven. > > An unknown number of these German Banaters in Bulgaria, later left and > > came to America(and apparently Australia). > > One can document a number of North Dakota Banaters who came via Bulgaria. > > These include the Haich brothers, who were born in Neu St Peter but came > > from Bardasrski Geran before coming to America, Neumann, Lenhard and > > Kussmann. > > These remaining Banaters living in Bulgaria were repatriated and resettled > > in Germany between 1941 and 1943 according to German Government > > policy(Back to the Reich). Apparently the present day location of the > > Bardarski Geran KBs is not known. > > As you probably know there are several usual web pages on Germans in > > Bardarski Geran. > > Dave Dreyer > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephanie Benjamin" <benjaminsax@optusnet.com.au> > To: <BANAT@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 11:00 AM > Subject: [BANAT-L] Roll Call (Stephanie Benjamin) > > > > Hello All > > > > I am researching the following families and towns. Any information however > > small would be appreciated. Names mentioned are my ancestors from the > > Banat who then eventually travelled further along the Danube and settled > > in Bulgaria in the late 1800s to early 1900s. I'm happy to help others who > > need info on these names, please contact me. > > > > > > LEICHER Hatzfeld Temswar > > > > LEICHER Lom, Selanovtsi, Gostilya, (Bulgaria) > > > > > > *Leicher family members are now settled in Bavaria Germany and Australia > > > > HOLUP Gross Sredischte near Werschetz > > > > HOLUP Gostilya, (Bulgaria) > > > > HOLLERBACH > > > > > HILGER Hatzfeld? Badarski Geran, > > > > *Hilger family now in Southern Germany > > > > HAYER Badarski Geran, Gostilya, (Bulgaria) > > > > HEYER Bardarski Geran, Gostilya > > > > *Heyer family now in Bavaria, Germany > > > > KEPPINGER Hatzfeld > > > > KOEPPINGER > > > > KROTTENTHALER Zichydorf or Zichyfalva > > > > *Krottenthaler family now living in Hanover Germany > > > > > > GRADENTHALER Zichydorf > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > Stephanie Benjamin > > > > Sydney Australia > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:01:48 -0800 From: "Dave Dreyer" <ddreyer@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Roll Call (Stephanie Benjamin) To: "Banat List" <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <77AA71A01170436F84961508B62CC2CD@D99J3Q21> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original > Peter; > I don't have the addresses at hand and would have to hunt them up using > Google. I will leave the search up to you----put some of the Bulgarian > place nemes in Stephanie's message into the search slot to start. > Dave Dreyer > ----- Original Message ----- > From: PETER MIKE > To: Dave Dreyer > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 12:59 PM > Subject: RE: [BANAT-L] Roll Call (Stephanie Benjamin) > > > Dave: > > I read your message to Stephanie, and am interested in where I might > read about the migration from Bulgaria. > > I found the Surname Miok in several Banat Cities: including Macedonia in > the 1828 Hungarian Census. > > Thanks in advance for any info. > > > > > > > > Peter C. Mike (Miok) > SOLUTIONS JIT Inc. > 9351 Vallarta Trail > Tucson, AZ 85749 > www.solutionsjit.com > pcmike@msn.com > c 520-661-3213 > p/f 520-749-3544 > > > > > > From: ddreyer@pacbell.net > > To: BANAT-L@rootsweb.com > > Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:32:40 -0800 > > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Roll Call (Stephanie Benjamin) > > > > > > > > Stephanie; > > > After 20 years on the Banat list someone after all this time comes up > with > > > ancestors from Bardarski Geran/Macadonia. > > > Among the various ethnic groups which the Hapsburgs settled in the > Banat > > > was a group of Roman Catholic ethnic Bulgarians. These Catholics > moved to > > > the Banat from Bulgaria where they could join coreligionists. When > the > > > Russians drove the Turks out of Bulgaria and there was a greater > degree of > > > freedom of religion some of the Bulgarians started returning in 1887 > to > > > resettle in their old homeland. In time, firstly in 1893, ethnic > German > > > Banaters begin following these Bulgarians to settle in Bulgaria. The > > > first group(of many) of seven families of German Banaters moved to > > > Bardarski Geran in 1893. These families came mainly from Denta, > > > Gertianosch, Homolitz and D Stamora. The returning Bulgarians came > mainly > > > from Wing, Bulgarische Kolonie and Alt Beschenowa. By 1936 there were > > > about 90 German Banater families living in Bardarski Geran. Other > > > Bulgarian towns with Banater colonists were Tsarev Brod/Shumen and > > > Gostily/Pleven. > > > An unknown number of these German Banaters in Bulgaria, later left > and > > > came to America(and apparently Australia). > > > One can document a number of North Dakota Banaters who came via > Bulgaria. > > > These include the Haich brothers, who were born in Neu St Peter but > came > > > from Bardasrski Geran before coming to America, Neumann, Lenhard and > > > Kussmann. > > > These remaining Banaters living in Bulgaria were repatriated and > resettled > > > in Germany between 1941 and 1943 according to German Government > > > policy(Back to the Reich). Apparently the present day location of the > > > Bardarski Geran KBs is not known. > > > As you probably know there are several usual web pages on Germans in > > > Bardarski Geran. > > > Dave Dreyer > > > > ------------------------------ To contact the BANAT list administrator, send an email to BANAT-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Hello Donauschwaben Researcher, Pastor Reichard's last available letter written in 1726 in Varsad, Tolna, where he managed to escape from Banat because of the religious persecution is now posted at www.hrastovac.net pages, via the BULLETIN BOARD. Greetings from Vancouver Island, Rosina

Long time Banat list member, Uwe Detemple, has published a book on the 1989 Romanian revolution which disposed Ceaucescu and his government. The work is entitled "Mein Rumaenian Revolution and Poesie". Price 14.90 Euro, 160 pp, paperback, from Books on Demand. Dave Dreyer

Hello Peg, I am in Florida and my Gertinosch Book is in North Carolina. I will not be back until Spring. I am sending a copy to Banat List . Maybe someone can help. Keep me posted. Gruss Gott Frank Thanks ! Frank A. Jakob, President/Broker/Auctioneer Cape Hatteras Realty & Construction Corp P.O. Box 249 Salvo, NC 27972 Office:252-987-2799 Cell: 252-305-1184 Fax: 252-987-2012 Web: www.capehatterasrealty.com E-mail: capehatreal@yahoo.com -----Original Message----- From: Peggy Miller [mailto:milpegg@centurytel.net] Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:04 AM To: Frank Jakob Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Rosalia Jung from Gyertyamos Hello, Frank, I hope all is well with you. It has been very cold here lately, but this week it is suppose to warm up. It was -20 Thursday morning, on my way to work! I have recently found names of a few of Rosa Jung's siblings. They are documented as being from Bobda. Would you happen to know if Bobda has a book? Or if it is a finial Parish of Gertianosch? The names I have found are Michael Jung b: 1865 Bobda Joseph Jung b:1867 Bobda Rosa Jung b: 1869 in Gertianosch (my ggrandmother) Wilfur or Wilfred b:? Parents: father Peter Jung b:? Anna Willwert b:1828 in ? I am still hoping to find something on this branch of my tree. I have heard that a Gertianosch familiebuch is being published and will be available this fall. Have you heard anything more than that? Do you know how one will be able to purchase it? I found a few more people in my tree that are from a town very close to Gertianosch. They were from KisJecsa or Iecea Micã. Do you know if this town is connected with Gertianosch or if there is another book out there for that too? Sooo much to learn! Thank you for being willing to help me with my research. I appreciate it very much. Peggy Frank Jakob wrote: > Hello Peggy, > > My family also came from Gertinosch and I have a copy of the second edition > "Gertinosch Wie es einmal war 1785-1985'. This book is no longer in > publication and I will be happy to help you; although, this book only list > the Jung family from 1911 that were still living in Gertinosch. Perhaps > someone has a copy of the first edition. > > > > > Thanks ! > Frank A. Jakob, President/Broker/Auctioneer > Cape Hatteras Realty & Construction Corp > P.O. Box 249 > Salvo, NC 27972 > > Office:252-987-2799 > Cell: 252-305-1184 > Fax: 252-987-2012 > > Web: www.capehatterasrealty.com > E-mail: capehatreal@yahoo.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: banat-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:banat-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Peggy Miller > Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 7:43 PM > To: DVHH Mailing List; Banat Mailing list > Subject: [BANAT-L] Rosalia Jung from Gyertyamos > > Hello, > I am trying to research my ggrandmother, Rosa Jung. b: 12 Mar1869 in > Gertianosch/Cãrpinis/Gyertyámos/Gertjanosch. d: 10 Aug 1948 Chicago, IL > She was married to Anton Schirmang b:1870 Sarafol/Saravale/Sárafalva. > She had a brother named Joseph Jung b: 25 Jan 1867 also from Gyertyamos > d: 09 Mar 1945 Covington, KY > And also a brother named Wilfur. > Her and her husband moved to St. Hubert and I believe that I have the > information that can be obtained from there. Her husband died around > 1903, and she came to the states (Chicago) and brought her children > 1910-1911. > I'm hoping that someone has information that can point me in the right > direction. Are there family books for Gyertyamos? Does anybody have > information on my family that they are willing to share with me? > Thanks! > Peggy > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >

Martin; Many details of this Heidenfelder family are given in the St Hubert Familienbuch by J Kuehn. Further details can be found in Kuehn"s Heueld/Massdorf Familienbuch. Details on the son Jakob and wife Magdalena MULSON are to be found in the St Hubert Familienbuch. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Block, Martin" <martin.block@sap.com> To: "Akdff-l" <akdff-l@genealogy.net> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:55 AM Subject: [Akdff-l] Suchanfrage Ruskodorf Hallo, wer von Euch forscht in Ruskodorf und könnte mir bei folgendem Paar weiterhelfen? 1.) Anton Heidenfelder, geb. um 1806 in Ruskodorf; Eltern: Anton Heidenfelder & Margarethe Witt 2.) Magdalena Milzung, geb. um 1812 Beide heiraten um 1832. Ich wäre für jede Information sehr dankbar! Viele Grüße Martin Block. ________________________________ From: akdff-l-bounces@genealogy.net [akdff-l-bounces@genealogy.net] On Behalf Of Stefan Prohaska [stefan.prohaska@ewetel.net] Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 7:14 PM To: 'Akdff-l' Subject: [Akdff-l] Suchanfrage Publikationen Sehr geehrte Listenteilnehmer, hat jemand von Ihnen evtl. eine Kopie von folgenden Publikationen und kann mir diese zusenden? Franz Karl Barth: „Ein gedruckter Werbezettel für die Auswanderungen nach Ungarn vom Jahre 1736“ Erschienen in den Deutsch-Ungarischen Heimatblättern 1, Jahr 1929, Seite 150-152 Márta Fata: „ Auswanderungen aus Württemberg nach Südosteuropa zwischen dem 17. und 19. Jahrhundert“ Erschienen in den Materialien-Band 1. Institut für donauschwäbische Geschichte und Landeskunde, 1993, Seite 24-40 Mit freundlichen Grüssen Stefan (Prohaska) _______________________________________________ Akdff-l mailing list Akdff-l@genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mm/listinfo/akdff-l _______________________________________________ Akdff-l mailing list Akdff-l@genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mm/listinfo/akdff-l

Reinholdt; I have nothing penetrating to say about Jakob Inger and Margaret Morg but I do have considerable data on their kid #8, Amalia, which may be of interest to you.. Anton Duckhorn and Amalia Enger, lived in ND up until ca 1915 but we have been unable to find their death records. [CA = California] DUCKHORN Anton, son of NN and Regina NN Nach North Dakota 1897 *23 Apr 1861 Bakowa oo 19 Jan 1885 Bakowa ENGER Amalia, dau of Jakob Enger and Margaret Morg *12 Nov 1864 Bakowa Anna *22 Oct 1885 Bakowa +15 Mar 1952 San Mateo, County, California, oo Johann Dolwig Josef *6 Mar 1887 Bakowa Maria *1890 +5 Jul 1962 Sonoma County California Regina *1893 Karl *1895 DOLWIG Johann, son of Jakob DOLWIG and Magdalena NN. Nach ND 1898 *10 Nov 1879 Tolwadia oo 7 Jul 1901 Lefor ND DUCKHORN Anna, dau of Anton DUCKHORN and Amalia ENGER *1885 Bakowa 1 Katharina *6 Apr 1904 ND +Jan 1978 Burlingame CA 2 Wilhelmina *1906 ND 3 Richard *29 Apr 1908 ND +26 Nov 1992 Sacramento CA 4 Helen *1911 ND 5 Alfred *1913 ND Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reinholdt Lovasz" <lovaszrm@web.de> To: <akdff-l@genealogy.net> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:32 PM Subject: [Akdff-l] Suchanfrage zu Jakob INGER oo Margarethe MORG (u. Alias) Sehr geehrte Mitforscher(innen) und Leser(innen) der Liste, ich arbeite am Familienbuch Bakowa und komme langsam zum Ende der Einträge aus dem Ort selbst, so dass ich damit beginnen kann die Nachforschungen nach den Zugewanderten intensiver zu betreiben. So bitte ich Sie um Ihre Unterstützung. Kann bitte jemand für mich in KLEIN-BETSCHKEREK bzw. in BILED (FB o. Kirchenbücher) nachsehen, ob es etwas zu ergänzen gibt, zu dem unten genannten Ehepaar. Familienblatt für: Jakob INGER und Margharethe MORG [4760] Erstellt am 30.01.2010 von Reinholdt Lovasz mit Gen_Plus aus Mandant: C:\GEN_PLUSWIN\BAKOWA OFB 01.01.2010\ Vater: < 8655> Jakob INGER, rk * 1825 in Klein-Betschkerek. ~ . + am 30.12.1897 HNr.139 in Bakowa. Quellen: TOB. V. Ba, 1896 - 1921 Seite: 1897/19/105. # am 31.12.1897 in Bakowa. Beruf: 1857 Landwirt in Bakowa Wohnung: 1885 HNr.107 in Bakowa Weitere Verbindung: [ 5730] 29.06.1885 mit < 1195> Franziska WEINSCHROTT. [ 4760] mit Mutter: < 13926> Margharethe MORG (Mark; Mork; Morgin; Turk; Jurk; Morkin) , rk * 1828 ? in Billed TM RO. ~ . + am 09.04.1885 HNr.110 in Bakowa. Quellen: TOB. IV. Ba, Seite: 42/32. # am 11.04.1885 in Bakowa Wohnungen der Familie: 1885 HNr.104 in Bakowa 1885 HNr.110 in Bakowa Kinder: 1. < 13927> Elisabeth INGER, rk * am 31.10.1849 in Bakowa. ~ am 31.10.1849 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. II. Ba, Seite: 130Paten: Josef MACHALSZKY; Elisabeth INGER. + am 08.11.1849 in Bakowa. Quellen: TOB. II. Ba, Seite: 142 2. < 7645> Elisabeth INGER, rk * am 01.12.1850 in Bakowa. ~ am 01.12.1850 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. II. Ba, Seite: 138Paten: Josef MACHALSZKY; Elisabeth INGER. + am 01.05.1924 in Bakowa. Quellen: TOB. VI. Ba 1922-1980 Seite: 9 # am 03.05.1924 in Bakowa. Verbindung:[ 3162] oo am 31.01.1870 in Bakowa. Quellen: EB. III. Ba 1870-1887, Seite: 01/02. Trauzeugen: Josef MACHALSZKY ; Karl LAMPL. Mit < 6359> Stefan LAMPL, rk * am 26.12.1846 in Bakowa. ~ am 26.12.1846 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. II. Ba, Seite: 108Paten: Constantin Szilárd PLEIER; Anna Maria (Maria Anna) JANOSCH. + am 16.09.1930 HNr.67 in Bakowa. Quellen: TOB. VI. Ba 1922-1980 Seite: 54 # am 17.09.1930 in Bakowa. 3. < 14859> Katharina INGER, rk * am 25.10.1855 HNr.147 in Bakowa. ~ am 25.10.1855 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. II. Ba, Seite: 181/106; t.Paten: Josef MACHALSZKY; Elisabeth INGER. 4. < 14956> Theresia INGER, rk * am 30.03.1857 HNr.147 in Bakowa. ~ am 30.03.1857 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. II. Ba, Seite: 192/32Paten: Josef MACHALSZKY; Elisabeth INGER. + am 26.09.1857 HNr.147 in Bakowa. # am 28.09.1857 in Bakowa. Quellen: TOB. II. Ba, Seite: 197/80 5. < 7700> Susanna INGER, rk * am 20.02.1859 HNr.148 in Bakowa. ~ am 21.02.1859 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. II. Ba, Seite: 209/19Paten: Peter HUBOV; Susanna HORN. + am 14.11.1898 HNr.147 in Bakowa. Quellen: TOB. V. Ba, 1896 - 1921 Seite: 1898/28/89 # am 16.11.1898 in Bakowa. Verbindung:[ 3187] oo am 26.11.1878 HNr.112, 147 in Bakowa. Quellen: EB. III. Ba 1870-1887, Seite: 1878/64/38. Trauzeugen: Josef FORMANEK ; Karl HUBOV. Mit < 7699> Conrad HESZ(Hesz) , rk * am 05.08.1854 HNr.91 in Bakowa. ~ am 06.08.1854 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. II. Ba, Seite: 170/79Paten: Anna Maria JANOSCH; Josef FORMANEK. 6. < 15794> Anna INGER, rk * am 27.01.1861 HNr.147 in Bakowa. ~ am 27.01.1861 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. II. Ba, Seite: 225/16Paten: Peter HUBOV; Susanna HORN. + am 08.01.1904 HNr.61 in Bakowa. Quellen: TOB. V. Ba, 1896 - 1921 Seite: 1904/64/02 # am 10.01.1904 in Bakowa. Verbindungen:[ 5653] oo am 19.02.1878 in Bakowa. Quellen: EB. III. Ba 1870-1887, Seite: 1878/57/10. Trauzeugen: Karl GÖRÖG ; Johann PLEIER. Mit < 14733> Karl LAMPL, rk * am 03.07.1853 HNr.150 in Bakowa. ~ am 03.07.1853 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. II. Ba, Seite: 161/70Paten: Constantin Szilárd PLEIER; Anna Maria (Maria Anna) JANOSCH. + am 06.12.1886 HNr.60 in Bakowa. Quellen: TOB. IV. Ba, Seite: 62/119 # am 07.12.1886 in Bakowa. [ 5753] oo am 21.02.1887 in Bakowa. Quellen: EB. III. Ba 1870-1887, Seite: 134/12. Trauzeugen: Georg DASSINGER ; Karl GÖRÖG. Mit < 15824> Johann GILBERT, rk * am 11.07.1861 HNr.13 in Bakowa. ~ am 12.07.1861 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. II. Ba, Seite: 229/66Paten: Karl ZWICK; Eva Maria LAMPL. + am 04.03.1924 in Bakowa. Quellen: TOB. VI. Ba 1922-1980 Seite: 8 # am 06.03.1924 in Bakowa. 7. < 15922> Peter INGER, rk * am 15.03.1863 HNr.147 in Bakowa. ~ am 15.03.1863 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. II. Ba, Seite: 284(244)/28Paten: Peter HUBOV; Susanna HORN. + am 04.08.1863 HNr.147 in Bakowa. Quellen: TOB. II. Ba, Seite: 236/92 # am 05.08.1863 in Bakowa. 8. < 6592> Amalia INGER(Jnger) , rk * am 12.11.1864 HNr.147 in Bakowa. ~ am 13.11.1864 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. II. Ba, Seite: 296(257)/84. Verbindung:[ 2954] oo am 19.01.1885 HNr.175, 104 in Bakowa. Quellen: EB. III. Ba 1870-1887, Seite: 118/2. Trauzeugen: Jakob LOH ; Johann VRANEK. Mit < 6591> Anton DUCKHORN, rk * am 23.04.1861 HNr.175 in Bakowa. ~ am 24.04.1861 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. II. Ba, Seite: 227/44Paten: Katharina CSERNY; Anton DUCKHORN. 9. < 16198> Karl INGER, rk * am 13.01.1867 HNr.147 in Bakowa. ~ am 14.01.1867 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. II. Ba, Seite: 322(283)/07Paten: Karl LAMPL; Anna CHRIST. Verbindung:[ 5791] oo am 11.05.1891 in Bakowa. Quellen: EB IV Ba 1888-1918, Seite: 18/11. Trauzeugen: Karl LAMPL ; GEDEON, Emerich. 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> Peter; > I don't have the addresses at hand and would have to hunt them up using > Google. I will leave the search up to you----put some of the Bulgarian > place nemes in Stephanie's message into the search slot to start. > Dave Dreyer > ----- Original Message ----- > From: PETER MIKE > To: Dave Dreyer > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 12:59 PM > Subject: RE: [BANAT-L] Roll Call (Stephanie Benjamin) > > > Dave: > > I read your message to Stephanie, and am interested in where I might > read about the migration from Bulgaria. > > I found the Surname Miok in several Banat Cities: including Macedonia in > the 1828 Hungarian Census. > > Thanks in advance for any info. > > > > > > > > Peter C. Mike (Miok) > SOLUTIONS JIT Inc. > 9351 Vallarta Trail > Tucson, AZ 85749 > www.solutionsjit.com > pcmike@msn.com > c 520-661-3213 > p/f 520-749-3544 > > > > > > From: ddreyer@pacbell.net > > To: BANAT-L@rootsweb.com > > Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:32:40 -0800 > > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Roll Call (Stephanie Benjamin) > > > > > > > > Stephanie; > > > After 20 years on the Banat list someone after all this time comes up > with > > > ancestors from Bardarski Geran/Macadonia. > > > Among the various ethnic groups which the Hapsburgs settled in the > Banat > > > was a group of Roman Catholic ethnic Bulgarians. These Catholics > moved to > > > the Banat from Bulgaria where they could join coreligionists. When > the > > > Russians drove the Turks out of Bulgaria and there was a greater > degree of > > > freedom of religion some of the Bulgarians started returning in 1887 > to > > > resettle in their old homeland. In time, firstly in 1893, ethnic > German > > > Banaters begin following these Bulgarians to settle in Bulgaria. The > > > first group(of many) of seven families of German Banaters moved to > > > Bardarski Geran in 1893. These families came mainly from Denta, > > > Gertianosch, Homolitz and D Stamora. The returning Bulgarians came > mainly > > > from Wing, Bulgarische Kolonie and Alt Beschenowa. By 1936 there were > > > about 90 German Banater families living in Bardarski Geran. Other > > > Bulgarian towns with Banater colonists were Tsarev Brod/Shumen and > > > Gostily/Pleven. > > > An unknown number of these German Banaters in Bulgaria, later left > and > > > came to America(and apparently Australia). > > > One can document a number of North Dakota Banaters who came via > Bulgaria. > > > These include the Haich brothers, who were born in Neu St Peter but > came > > > from Bardasrski Geran before coming to America, Neumann, Lenhard and > > > Kussmann. > > > These remaining Banaters living in Bulgaria were repatriated and > resettled > > > in Germany between 1941 and 1943 according to German Government > > > policy(Back to the Reich). Apparently the present day location of the > > > Bardarski Geran KBs is not known. > > > As you probably know there are several usual web pages on Germans in > > > Bardarski Geran. > > > Dave Dreyer > > > >

Peter; I don't have the addresses at hand and would have to hunt them up using Google. I will leave the search up to you----put some of the Bulgarian place nemes in Stephanie's message into the search slot to start. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: PETER MIKE To: Dave Dreyer Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 12:59 PM Subject: RE: [BANAT-L] Roll Call (Stephanie Benjamin) Dave: I read your message to Stephanie, and am interested in where I might read about the migration from Bulgaria. I found the Surname Miok in several Banat Cities: including Macedonia in the 1828 Hungarian Census. Thanks in advance for any info. Peter C. Mike (Miok) SOLUTIONS JIT Inc. 9351 Vallarta Trail Tucson, AZ 85749 www.solutionsjit.com pcmike@msn.com c 520-661-3213 p/f 520-749-3544 > From: ddreyer@pacbell.net > To: BANAT-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:32:40 -0800 > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Roll Call (Stephanie Benjamin) > > > > Stephanie; > > After 20 years on the Banat list someone after all this time comes up with > > ancestors from Bardarski Geran/Macadonia. > > Among the various ethnic groups which the Hapsburgs settled in the Banat > > was a group of Roman Catholic ethnic Bulgarians. These Catholics moved to > > the Banat from Bulgaria where they could join coreligionists. When the > > Russians drove the Turks out of Bulgaria and there was a greater degree of > > freedom of religion some of the Bulgarians started returning in 1887 to > > resettle in their old homeland. In time, firstly in 1893, ethnic German > > Banaters begin following these Bulgarians to settle in Bulgaria. The > > first group(of many) of seven families of German Banaters moved to > > Bardarski Geran in 1893. These families came mainly from Denta, > > Gertianosch, Homolitz and D Stamora. The returning Bulgarians came mainly > > from Wing, Bulgarische Kolonie and Alt Beschenowa. By 1936 there were > > about 90 German Banater families living in Bardarski Geran. Other > > Bulgarian towns with Banater colonists were Tsarev Brod/Shumen and > > Gostily/Pleven. > > An unknown number of these German Banaters in Bulgaria, later left and > > came to America(and apparently Australia). > > One can document a number of North Dakota Banaters who came via Bulgaria. > > These include the Haich brothers, who were born in Neu St Peter but came > > from Bardasrski Geran before coming to America, Neumann, Lenhard and > > Kussmann. > > These remaining Banaters living in Bulgaria were repatriated and resettled > > in Germany between 1941 and 1943 according to German Government > > policy(Back to the Reich). Apparently the present day location of the > > Bardarski Geran KBs is not known. > > As you probably know there are several usual web pages on Germans in > > Bardarski Geran. > > Dave Dreyer > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephanie Benjamin" <benjaminsax@optusnet.com.au> > To: <BANAT@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 11:00 AM > Subject: [BANAT-L] Roll Call (Stephanie Benjamin) > > > > Hello All > > > > I am researching the following families and towns. Any information however > > small would be appreciated. Names mentioned are my ancestors from the > > Banat who then eventually travelled further along the Danube and settled > > in Bulgaria in the late 1800s to early 1900s. I'm happy to help others who > > need info on these names, please contact me. > > > > > > LEICHER Hatzfeld Temswar > > > > LEICHER Lom, Selanovtsi, Gostilya, (Bulgaria) > > > > > > *Leicher family members are now settled in Bavaria Germany and Australia > > > > HOLUP Gross Sredischte near Werschetz > > > > HOLUP Gostilya, (Bulgaria) > > > > HOLLERBACH > > > > > HILGER Hatzfeld? Badarski Geran, > > > > *Hilger family now in Southern Germany > > > > HAYER Badarski Geran, Gostilya, (Bulgaria) > > > > HEYER Bardarski Geran, Gostilya > > > > *Heyer family now in Bavaria, Germany > > > > KEPPINGER Hatzfeld > > > > KOEPPINGER > > > > KROTTENTHALER Zichydorf or Zichyfalva > > > > *Krottenthaler family now living in Hanover Germany > > > > > > GRADENTHALER Zichydorf > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > Stephanie Benjamin > > > > Sydney Australia > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Stephanie, here is a link for a Gratenthaler, there is only one listed. Gradenthaler is listed as Krottenthaler. ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephanie Benjamin<mailto:benjaminsax@optusnet.com.au> To: BANAT@rootsweb.com<mailto:BANAT@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:00 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] Roll Call (Stephanie Benjamin) Hello All I am researching the following families and towns. Any information however small would be appreciated. Names mentioned are my ancestors from the Banat who then eventually travelled further along the Danube and settled in Bulgaria in the late 1800s to early 1900s. I'm happy to help others who need info on these names, please contact me. LEICHER Hatzfeld Temswar LEICHER Lom, Selanovtsi, Gostilya, (Bulgaria) *Leicher family members are now settled in Bavaria Germany and Australia HOLUP Gross Sredischte near Werschetz HOLUP Gostilya, (Bulgaria) HOLLERBACH HILGER Hatzfeld? Badarski Geran, *Hilger family now in Southern Germany HAYER Badarski Geran, Gostilya, (Bulgaria) HEYER Bardarski Geran, Gostilya *Heyer family now in Bavaria, Germany KEPPINGER Hatzfeld KOEPPINGER KROTTENTHALER Zichydorf or Zichyfalva *Krottenthaler family now living in Hanover Germany GRADENTHALER Zichydorf Best wishes Stephanie Benjamin Sydney Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:BANAT-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Stephanie; > After 20 years on the Banat list someone after all this time comes up with > ancestors from Bardarski Geran/Macadonia. > Among the various ethnic groups which the Hapsburgs settled in the Banat > was a group of Roman Catholic ethnic Bulgarians. These Catholics moved to > the Banat from Bulgaria where they could join coreligionists. When the > Russians drove the Turks out of Bulgaria and there was a greater degree of > freedom of religion some of the Bulgarians started returning in 1887 to > resettle in their old homeland. In time, firstly in 1893, ethnic German > Banaters begin following these Bulgarians to settle in Bulgaria. The > first group(of many) of seven families of German Banaters moved to > Bardarski Geran in 1893. These families came mainly from Denta, > Gertianosch, Homolitz and D Stamora. The returning Bulgarians came mainly > from Wing, Bulgarische Kolonie and Alt Beschenowa. By 1936 there were > about 90 German Banater families living in Bardarski Geran. Other > Bulgarian towns with Banater colonists were Tsarev Brod/Shumen and > Gostily/Pleven. > An unknown number of these German Banaters in Bulgaria, later left and > came to America(and apparently Australia). > One can document a number of North Dakota Banaters who came via Bulgaria. > These include the Haich brothers, who were born in Neu St Peter but came > from Bardasrski Geran before coming to America, Neumann, Lenhard and > Kussmann. > These remaining Banaters living in Bulgaria were repatriated and resettled > in Germany between 1941 and 1943 according to German Government > policy(Back to the Reich). Apparently the present day location of the > Bardarski Geran KBs is not known. > As you probably know there are several usual web pages on Germans in > Bardarski Geran. > Dave Dreyer > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephanie Benjamin" <benjaminsax@optusnet.com.au> To: <BANAT@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 11:00 AM Subject: [BANAT-L] Roll Call (Stephanie Benjamin) > Hello All > > I am researching the following families and towns. Any information however > small would be appreciated. Names mentioned are my ancestors from the > Banat who then eventually travelled further along the Danube and settled > in Bulgaria in the late 1800s to early 1900s. I'm happy to help others who > need info on these names, please contact me. > > > > LEICHER Hatzfeld Temswar > > LEICHER Lom, Selanovtsi, Gostilya, (Bulgaria) > > > *Leicher family members are now settled in Bavaria Germany and Australia > > HOLUP Gross Sredischte near Werschetz > > HOLUP Gostilya, (Bulgaria) > > HOLLERBACH > > > HILGER Hatzfeld? Badarski Geran, > > *Hilger family now in Southern Germany > > HAYER Badarski Geran, Gostilya, (Bulgaria) > > HEYER Bardarski Geran, Gostilya > > *Heyer family now in Bavaria, Germany > > KEPPINGER Hatzfeld > > KOEPPINGER > > KROTTENTHALER Zichydorf or Zichyfalva > > *Krottenthaler family now living in Hanover Germany > > > GRADENTHALER Zichydorf > > > Best wishes > > Stephanie Benjamin > > Sydney Australia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello All I am researching the following families and towns. Any information however small would be appreciated. Names mentioned are my ancestors from the Banat who then eventually travelled further along the Danube and settled in Bulgaria in the late 1800s to early 1900s. I'm happy to help others who need info on these names, please contact me. LEICHER Hatzfeld Temswar LEICHER Lom, Selanovtsi, Gostilya, (Bulgaria) *Leicher family members are now settled in Bavaria Germany and Australia HOLUP Gross Sredischte near Werschetz HOLUP Gostilya, (Bulgaria) HOLLERBACH HILGER Hatzfeld? Badarski Geran, *Hilger family now in Southern Germany HAYER Badarski Geran, Gostilya, (Bulgaria) HEYER Bardarski Geran, Gostilya *Heyer family now in Bavaria, Germany KEPPINGER Hatzfeld KOEPPINGER KROTTENTHALER Zichydorf or Zichyfalva *Krottenthaler family now living in Hanover Germany GRADENTHALER Zichydorf Best wishes Stephanie Benjamin Sydney Australia

Thank you Jane, For sending us this Mt. Angel URL: http://www.oktoberfest.org/ The bus connection info for those who need the bus from the airport is also there. Thanks again, Jane, Rosina

Lucky OBROVAC-BOROC-OBERNDORF researchers: Wilhelm Busch's Ortsippenbuch Obrovac-Boroc-Oberndorf 1806-1956 on CD will be donated to the silent auction! A great 'thank-you' to the generous but silent donor! See you in Mt. Angel! Rosina www.hrastovac.net

Hello Danube Swabian Researchers, As the town of Mt. Angel now confirmed that this year's festival will be on 16-19th September (see:http://www.mtangel.org/) and your 'Mt. Angel Donauschwaben Conference organizers are also working diligently to make this year's Treffen at least as great as it was last year, thanks to all of your great contributions. Hopefully the 2010 will be even better. Our TINA LETO will be able to join us this year and we are all exited about it, remembering her lively presentations of the years past. Thanks, Tina! She is still working on her presentation topic - just keeping us in suspense. This year KAREN PRESTON Karen@golden-hills.com generously offered to look after the donations (books etc.) as ANITA PARE will not be able to join us. Her son is getting married that weekend! Anita did a fabulous job last year. Thank you Anita, and thank you Karen also. So now please book your Mt. Angel travel and see you all there! Rosina www.hrastovac.net

Hello! 'Pastor Reichard's Persecution' is now posted on the www.hrastovac.net pages and can be found via the Bulletin Board. Greetings from Vancouver Island, Rosina

Thanks all, I knew there had to be something. (Sorry for the typo - bifocals weren't working that day.) Mary Ann > From: rwayne724@verizon.net > To: banat@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 10:06:25 -0500 > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] BANAT Digest, Vol 5, Issue 27 > > YES, go to the Ballinstadt Emigration Museum, it is wonderful. > > HAMBURG PORT OF IMMIGRANT DREAMS > Ballin-Stadt Emigration Museum Hamburg > Many families can trace their ancestry to the successive waves of > immigration from Europe. Seeking religious freedom, escape from famine, war > or persecution, the chance for riches or just the opportunity for something > better. Before 1850 much of the immigrant ships which carried the hopefuls > from Germany embarked from ports in Amsterdam, Rotterdam and Bremen. In 1847 > the HAPAG shipping line "Hamburg American Packet Company" was founded in the > northern Germany port city of Hamburg. Convenient to reach by the Elbe River > from the east and by railroad, Hamburg rapidly became the most important > emigration port in Germany from 1850 to 1934 and the HAPAG line one of the > most successful shipping companies in the world, renamed the Hamburg-America > Line in 1893. > > Between 1846 and 1857 more than one million Germans emigrated to the United > States, mostly small farmers from Southern Germany and farm laborers from > East Germany and by 1814, over five million had left, most on ships of the > Hamburg America Line (Hamburg Amerika Linie). In 1901 the shipping line > opened an "Immigration City", a complex of buildings with lodging and dining > halls to handle the rush from Eastern Europe, Poland and Russia with room of > 5,000 immigrants at a time in its Immigration Halls (Auswandererhallen) > waiting for the next ship to America, even including a synagogue for the > many Jewish immigrants escaping the Czarist pogroms of Russia. > > In 2007 three reconstructed buildings of the former Immigration Halls of the > Hamburg-America Line re-opened as a museum exhibition dedicated to this past > and named for the company's managing director Albert Ballin who guided it. > The BallinStadt Emigration Museum Hamburg located on Vedel Island in the > harbor complex of the Elbe River (See Hamburg Harbor) with an S-Bahn station > at the Wilhelmsburger Bridge nearby will present photographic displays and > records of Hamburg's part in the immigration story, in both its hopeful and > darker sides. For those seeking their ancestral history from a European past > whose ancestors left Europe from Poland, the Baltic states, Russia and even > Switzerland, Denmark, Sweden and Finland between 1836 until 1934, may > discover relatives passed through the portals of the HAPAG > "Auswandererstadt". _________________________________________________________________ New Windows 7: Simplify what you do everyday. Find the right PC for you. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop

Hallo to everyone, Pastor Reichard's letter written on June 3rd 1724 is to be found via the Bulletin Board on www.hrastovac.net pages. Happy reading, Rosina

Hello Rita if you get this please reply to List. Thank You George Adam(s)