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    1. Re: [BANAT-L] Purchase of Lowrin FB
    2. Gabriel Lung
    3. Thanks Rick.I too plan to purchase this book but was having trouble trying to get an international money order.I didn't realize I could send her a personal check that she could cash.I will be sure to add the extra amount when I send it.What family are you looking up from Lowrin? I am a Lung looking for my family along with a few maiden names as well. --- On Sat, 2/6/10, Rick and Jeanette Bachmann <bachmannfamily@att.net> wrote: From: Rick and Jeanette Bachmann <bachmannfamily@att.net> Subject: [BANAT-L] Purchase of Lowrin FB To: BANAT@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, February 6, 2010, 9:10 AM I ordered this book from Frau Schauermann and sent her a check for $35  as recommended.  Unfortunately, when she deposited the check at her  bank, they took 9 Euro for various fees, leaving us over 16 Euro  short.  She mailed me a letter back with the description of the extra  charges.  So I changed some dollars for Euro at the airport  international terminal and put 20 Euro cash in the mail to her today. I recommend that if you are going to purchase this book by sending a  check in dollars, be very conservative on the exchange rate and  include at least an extra 9 Euro for the bank charges. The book is 20 Euro, the postage is 10 Euro and the bank charges 9  Euro to convert from dollars to Euro, so I would send the dollar  equivalent of at least 40 Euro. Rick Bachmann ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/06/2010 10:53:26
    1. [BANAT-L] Mt. Angel Travelers (Sep. 16-19)
    2. Rosina T Schmidt
    3. Hallo Mt. Angel Travelers If you are coming by car from the north, please reserve some time to visit those spectacular places: Mt. Hood scenic byways http://www.byways.org/explore/byways/61400/ Mt. Hood Real Time Camera http://www.fsvisimages.com/moho2/moho2.html Travel Oregon Blog: http://www.traveloregon.com/Explore%20Oregon/Mt%20Hood%20Columbia%20River%20Gorge.aspx I have stayed overnight at Mt. Hood's lodge on my way home from Mt. Angel and it was an unforgettable experience. The Lodge has a heated outdoor swimming pool hidden by a tall wall from where you can practically pick the stars off the night sky, so bring your swimming outfit with you. Hope to see you at Mt. Angel, Rosina www.hrastovac.net

    02/06/2010 01:55:31
    1. Re: [BANAT-L] Roll Call
    2. Cathy Deschu
    3. If anyone is using the Lenauheim FB, there is a Simon Desu entry which is really Simon Deschu.  Anyone researching the Deschu line should look in the Gottlob FB, or contact me.Desu is only one of the spelling variations in the Banat.   As many have said before .. if it sounds the same .. it often is the same. Cathy Deschu in eastern PA .. snowy, but only 7 1/2 " here  --- On Sat, 2/6/10, Harold Bratsko <bhbrat24@msn.com> wrote: From: Harold Bratsko <bhbrat24@msn.com> Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Roll Call To: BANAT@rootsweb.com, "Rick and Jeanette Bachmann" <bachmannfamily@att.net> Date: Saturday, February 6, 2010, 4:53 PM Here are two links, one for Lenauheim FB , the other for Perjamosch FB. http://www.online-ofb.de/famlist.php?ofb=lenauheim&b=A〈=de<http://www.online-ofb.de/famlist.php?ofb=lenauheim&b=A〈=de> http://www.banaterheide.de/fambuch/perjamosch/perj_a_f/FB-A1.htm<http://www.banaterheide.de/fambuch/perjamosch/perj_a_f/FB-A1.htm>                                                                            Harold   ----- Original Message -----   From: Rick and Jeanette Bachmann<mailto:bachmannfamily@att.net>   To: BANAT@rootsweb.com<mailto:BANAT@rootsweb.com>   Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 7:30 AM   Subject: [BANAT-L] Roll Call   Dear List   Here is my roll call for the Banat:   BACHUSZ / BACHUS / PAKACZ / BACKES / PACKES - Lenauheim, Warjasch   FETER - Lowrin   FREY / FREI - Lowrin, Warjasch   GELLERT - Gottlob   HENDLE - Lowrin   KOENIG - Perjamosch, Warjasch   KRATOCHVILL / KRATOFILL / GRADOVILL - Bogarosch, Lenauheim   KRAEMER - Jahrmarkt, Warjasch   MOOR - Warjasch   SARTORIUS - Warjasch, Perjamosch, Jahrmarkt, Bachem   SCHMID - Warjasch   SCHREINER - Gottlob   TITTENHOFER / TITTANHOFER / DIEDENHOFER - Gottlob, Warjasch   If anyone is working any of those names and has information on any of    them, please let me know!   Thanks very much!   Rick       -------------------------------   To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:BANAT-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/06/2010 09:00:28
    1. [BANAT-L] Roll Call
    2. Denise Sproed
    3. Families I'm interested in learning more about: Emigrants from Pankota to Marion County, Oregon: BERNARDIN (Magdalena's PFAU children -she d Pankota) DITCHEN DORAN ENGEL GVASNITSKA (Anna's PFAU children - she d Pankota) HACK (Anton's dau Anna emigrated 1906-he probably d Pankota) HAUPTMAN KEIZER KNAP (were there other children of Theresia Hermle & Josephus Knap other than Veronica who emigrated in 1903) MUTH PFAU REZNICSEK SCHAEFFER (Genoveva's SCHMIDT children - she d Pankota) SCHMIDT Emigrants from Esztergom to Marion County, Oregon LELEK LELACK Emigrants from Ujpanat/Neupanat to Oregon: SCHMIDT (daughters of Andreas 1837-1873 d.Ujpanat) NOZAK (daus of Katharina 1843-1901 d. Ujpanat) PLENNERT (daus of Christian ca 1863-1904 d Ujpanat) FREISINGER Emigrants from St. Anna/Sanktanna to Oregon: MEYER, Katherine 1884-1964 TOMMINGER Emigrants to Oregon that I do not yet know where they emigrated from: KOHN, Joseph J. b 1887 Hungary m. Katherine Freisinger MARTIN, Bertha b 22 Apr 1889 Hungary m. Lorenz Freisinger ZELLNER, Joseph b 1900 Setline, Hungary m. Katie Hauptman STICKEL, John b 1888 Hungary m. Katherine Plennert Denise Sproed Merritt A member of the Association of Professional Genealogists The web page I made for my parents is at: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~merritt/ My genealogy related pages are at: http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~merritt/ and http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~merritt/ The latter created using John Cardinal's Second Site User of The Master Genealogist (TMG) http://www.whollygenes.com/

    02/06/2010 08:07:15
    1. Re: [BANAT-L] Roll Call
    2. Harold Bratsko
    3. Here are two links, one for Lenauheim FB , the other for Perjamosch FB. http://www.online-ofb.de/famlist.php?ofb=lenauheim&b=A&lang=de<http://www.online-ofb.de/famlist.php?ofb=lenauheim&b=A&lang=de> http://www.banaterheide.de/fambuch/perjamosch/perj_a_f/FB-A1.htm<http://www.banaterheide.de/fambuch/perjamosch/perj_a_f/FB-A1.htm> Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick and Jeanette Bachmann<mailto:bachmannfamily@att.net> To: BANAT@rootsweb.com<mailto:BANAT@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 7:30 AM Subject: [BANAT-L] Roll Call Dear List Here is my roll call for the Banat: BACHUSZ / BACHUS / PAKACZ / BACKES / PACKES - Lenauheim, Warjasch FETER - Lowrin FREY / FREI - Lowrin, Warjasch GELLERT - Gottlob HENDLE - Lowrin KOENIG - Perjamosch, Warjasch KRATOCHVILL / KRATOFILL / GRADOVILL - Bogarosch, Lenauheim KRAEMER - Jahrmarkt, Warjasch MOOR - Warjasch SARTORIUS - Warjasch, Perjamosch, Jahrmarkt, Bachem SCHMID - Warjasch SCHREINER - Gottlob TITTENHOFER / TITTANHOFER / DIEDENHOFER - Gottlob, Warjasch If anyone is working any of those names and has information on any of them, please let me know! Thanks very much! Rick ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:BANAT-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/06/2010 07:53:50
    1. [BANAT-L] Roll Call
    2. Rick and Jeanette Bachmann
    3. Dear List Here is my roll call for the Banat: BACHUSZ / BACHUS / PAKACZ / BACKES / PACKES - Lenauheim, Warjasch FETER - Lowrin FREY / FREI - Lowrin, Warjasch GELLERT - Gottlob HENDLE - Lowrin KOENIG - Perjamosch, Warjasch KRATOCHVILL / KRATOFILL / GRADOVILL - Bogarosch, Lenauheim KRAEMER - Jahrmarkt, Warjasch MOOR - Warjasch SARTORIUS - Warjasch, Perjamosch, Jahrmarkt, Bachem SCHMID - Warjasch SCHREINER - Gottlob TITTENHOFER / TITTANHOFER / DIEDENHOFER - Gottlob, Warjasch If anyone is working any of those names and has information on any of them, please let me know! Thanks very much! Rick

    02/06/2010 07:30:12
    1. [BANAT-L] Purchase of Lowrin FB
    2. Rick and Jeanette Bachmann
    3. I ordered this book from Frau Schauermann and sent her a check for $35 as recommended. Unfortunately, when she deposited the check at her bank, they took 9 Euro for various fees, leaving us over 16 Euro short. She mailed me a letter back with the description of the extra charges. So I changed some dollars for Euro at the airport international terminal and put 20 Euro cash in the mail to her today. I recommend that if you are going to purchase this book by sending a check in dollars, be very conservative on the exchange rate and include at least an extra 9 Euro for the bank charges. The book is 20 Euro, the postage is 10 Euro and the bank charges 9 Euro to convert from dollars to Euro, so I would send the dollar equivalent of at least 40 Euro. Rick Bachmann

    02/06/2010 07:10:27
    1. [BANAT-L] sending money to Europe
    2. Rosina T Schmidt
    3. It is no good to send cheques to Europe. The banking fees there are 25% of the value of the cheque! It is better to send a banker draft instead. No fees for them. Rosin www.hrastovac.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick and Jeanette Bachmann" <bachmannfamily@att.net> To: <BANAT@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 6:10 AM Subject: [BANAT-L] Purchase of Lowrin FB >I ordered this book from Frau Schauermann and sent her a check for $35 > as recommended. Unfortunately, when she deposited the check at her > bank, they took 9 Euro for various fees, leaving us over 16 Euro > short. She mailed me a letter back with the description of the extra > charges. So I changed some dollars for Euro at the airport > international terminal and put 20 Euro cash in the mail to her today. > > I recommend that if you are going to purchase this book by sending a > check in dollars, be very conservative on the exchange rate and > include at least an extra 9 Euro for the bank charges. > The book is 20 Euro, the postage is 10 Euro and the bank charges 9 > Euro to convert from dollars to Euro, so I would send the dollar > equivalent of at least 40 Euro. > > Rick Bachmann > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

    02/06/2010 06:32:38
    1. Re: [BANAT-L] Koch family in Rudolfsgnad
    2. Dave Dreyer
    3. Dee; It appears that Josef Koch was born in Ernsthausen but the family lived in and the kids were born in Rudolfsgnad. The Ernsthausen KBs are in the Neusatz archives and the only way to access them is to go there or have a local resercher look for your data. The Ernsthausen Hemat book has a list of families in 1871 and in HN 52, lived a Johann Koch with wife Gertrud NN which could easily be the parents of Josef. Philipp Lung has written a family book for Rudolfsgnad but it was based on incomplete data and your Koch guys are not in his book. As I understand it he is working on an updated version but I have no idea when it will be finished. Enrsthausen was a daughter village and all the orgional setters had to come from another Banat locality. You might look and see if you can find the WW I draft registration for the oldest son and see what it says on his place of birth. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: Dee Koch To: Dave Dreyer Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Koch family in Rudolfsgnad Dave, Josef Sr arrived in New York Sept 11, 1905 aboard the Pannonia. His departure port was Fiume and last residence was listed as R. Toguad. He joined his brother-in-law Janos Hoffmann in Louisville, KY. According to his daughter Agnes' written account, this was his second attempt at coming to the US. He was refused entry on the first attempt because he was sick. I'm still trying to find records to verify this. Two of his children, Josef Jr and Agnes, followed a little later, arriving in New York aboard the Pannonia on Dec 12, 1905. Their departure port was Fiume and last residence was listed as Bridolfguaden. They joined their father in Louisville. At some point between their arrival and Sept 1906, the three moved to Pittsburgh, PA. Theresa and the three remaining children, Elizabeth, Susan and Josef John arrived in New York Sept 9, 1906 aboard the Carpathia. Their departure port was Naples and last residence was Rudolfsgnad. They joined the rest of the family in Pittsburgh. Two more sons were born after they arrived. Matthew was born in 1908 and Paul was born in 1911. Paul died in 1916 and at some point between then and the 1920 census, the family moved to Crawford County, PA settling in the Springboro/Titusville area. Some of the descendants still live in the area. I just found their petition for naturalization today. It's dated Sept 5, 1911. Theresa must have been hugely pregnant at the time because son Paul was born the very next day. Below is the information from the naturalization papers. Josef Koch b Sept 4, 1869 in Ernesthana, Hungary Theresa Koch b in Rudolfsgnad, Hungary Joseph Koch b Mar 22, 1892 in Hungary Agnes Koch b Jan 30, 1894 in Hungary Elizabeth Koch b Oct 6, 1901 in Hungary Susana Koch b Oct 25, 1899 in Hungary a pretty much illegible name b Jan 6, 1904 in Hungary (judging by date this is son Joseph John) Matthew Koch b June 4, 1908 in Pittsburgh, PA The Susana on the naturalization petition went by Susan or Anna on the records I have found. According to what I've been told by family, there was another child named Susana who was born July 29, 1896 and died July 30, 1896. Since all of the other children were born in Hungary, it's a fair assumption that's where she was born and died as well. Basically what I'm hoping to find is the parents and siblings of Josef Sr and Theresa, Theresa's maiden name, when and where they got married, and where in Hungary the children were born. Thanks, Dee --- On Fri, 2/5/10, Dave Dreyer <ddreyer@pacbell.net> wrote: From: Dave Dreyer <ddreyer@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Koch family in Rudolfsgnad To: "Dee Koch" <tracingmymtnroots@yahoo.com> Date: Friday, February 5, 2010, 6:25 PM Dee; It is difficult to provide any aid without more detailed information, When did they arrive in the U.S, Port and ship, where did they settle in the U. S., etc. Did he take out naturalization papers? Dave Dreyer Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dee Koch" <tracingmymtnroots@yahoo.com> To: <BANAT@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 4:57 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] Koch family in Rudolfsgnad > I have hit a brick wall with this family and would appreciate any help. > > Josef Koch Sr is the oldest known member. He was born in 1862. I found a reference that his father may have been named Andrew, but have not confirmed this yet. He married Theresa Unknown ca 1891. Her maiden name may possibly have been Hoffmann, but I haven't been able to verify this. They had six children prior to their immigration to the US-Josef Jr (b 1892), Agnes (b 1894), Susanna (b and d July 1896), a daughter who went by Susan or Anna (b 1899), Elizabeth (b ca 1901) and Josef John (b 1904). > > I know the family lived in Rudolfsgnad at least a couple years because Agnes mentioned it in her account of the family coming to the US and it was listed as last residence for Theresa and the three youngest children in Ellis Island records. > > If anyone has any information on this family or can point me in the right direction to find it myself, I'd really appreciate it. > > Thanks > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/06/2010 05:54:26
    1. [BANAT-L] Serbisch Zerne - Deutsch Zerne
    2. Robert Evensen
    3. Perhaps someone can help me understand better the geographical issues with Serbisch Zerne and Deutsch Zerne. In the new FB, Helga and Anton Hornung frequently have children */~ SZ/DZ. I interpret this to mean born in Serbisch Zerne and baptized in Deutsch Zerne. Is this correct? Was the church in a different town or are Serbisch Zerne and Deutsch Zerne next to each other? Your help is sorely needed! Robert

    02/05/2010 02:18:04
    1. Re: [BANAT-L] Conflicting birth records
    2. Dave Dreyer
    3. Robert; Yes, one can, from time to time, find the birth record in more than one village. In some villages the precher in the marriage record noted the birth dates of the bride and groom---not always accurately. However, these are very useful when some of the orginal birth records are missing. .So if the groom was born in another village his birth data would be available to those in the brides village. It should be noted that the comments column in the birth records is ofter a valuable souce of information about the subsequent marriage. On one example, I have seen data on marrages in North Dakota in the Josefsdorf KBs. In the Heufeld birth records one can find the details on many marrage contracts on Heufelders who subsequently were married in Germany in the postwar period. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Evensen" <revensen@comcast.net> To: "'Banat List'" <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 12:07 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] Conflicting birth records >I just received my copy of the FB Deutsch Zerne and have started to update >my files. I came across an example not previously seen before. I have a >child Maria Tabar who has a birth record in both Deutsch Zerne and Ostern. >Now she could only have been born in one town. Was it a practice to notify >another church of a birth? The father is born in Deutsch Zerne. The >mother was born in Ostern. The couple marries in Ostern, but it appears >the family lives in Deutsch Zerne. > > Any thoughts? > > Robert Evensen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/05/2010 10:05:06
    1. [BANAT-L] Conflicting birth records
    2. Robert Evensen
    3. I just received my copy of the FB Deutsch Zerne and have started to update my files. I came across an example not previously seen before. I have a child Maria Tabar who has a birth record in both Deutsch Zerne and Ostern. Now she could only have been born in one town. Was it a practice to notify another church of a birth? The father is born in Deutsch Zerne. The mother was born in Ostern. The couple marries in Ostern, but it appears the family lives in Deutsch Zerne. Any thoughts? Robert Evensen

    02/05/2010 08:07:12
    1. [BANAT-L] Pen Scanners
    2. Fran Matkovich
    3. I have been searching the Web for a pen scanner that will scan a few lines of data from a page or a whole page, store it temporarily, and transfer it to a computer via a USB port? Does anyone have one they really like? Thanks, Fran Matkovich

    02/05/2010 08:01:47
    1. Re: [BANAT-L] Conflicting birth records
    2. Frank Dornstauder
    3. Hi Robert, Could Deutsch Zerne have been a filial parish of Ostern and some of the entries duplicated until D Zerne stood on its own? Any Dornstauders in DZ? Frank D. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Evensen" <revensen@comcast.net> To: "'Banat List'" <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 2:07 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] Conflicting birth records >I just received my copy of the FB Deutsch Zerne and have started to update >my files. I came across an example not previously seen before. I have a >child Maria Tabar who has a birth record in both Deutsch Zerne and Ostern. >Now she could only have been born in one town. Was it a practice to notify >another church of a birth? The father is born in Deutsch Zerne. The >mother was born in Ostern. The couple marries in Ostern, but it appears >the family lives in Deutsch Zerne. > > Any thoughts? > > Robert Evensen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/05/2010 07:16:30
    1. Re: [BANAT-L] Koch family in Rudolfsgnad
    2. Dave Dreyer
    3. Dee; It is difficult to provide any aid without more detailed information, When did they arrive in the U.S, Port and ship, where did they settle in the U. S., etc. Did he take out naturalization papers? Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dee Koch" <tracingmymtnroots@yahoo.com> To: <BANAT@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 4:57 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] Koch family in Rudolfsgnad >I have hit a brick wall with this family and would appreciate any help. > > Josef Koch Sr is the oldest known member. He was born in 1862. I found a > reference that his father may have been named Andrew, but have not > confirmed this yet. He married Theresa Unknown ca 1891. Her maiden name > may possibly have been Hoffmann, but I haven't been able to verify this. > They had six children prior to their immigration to the US-Josef Jr (b > 1892), Agnes (b 1894), Susanna (b and d July 1896), a daughter who went by > Susan or Anna (b 1899), Elizabeth (b ca 1901) and Josef John (b 1904). > > I know the family lived in Rudolfsgnad at least a couple years because > Agnes mentioned it in her account of the family coming to the US and it > was listed as last residence for Theresa and the three youngest children > in Ellis Island records. > > If anyone has any information on this family or can point me in the right > direction to find it myself, I'd really appreciate it. > > Thanks > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/05/2010 03:27:15
    1. [BANAT-L] Mt. Angel 16-19th Sept 2010
    2. Rosina T Schmidt
    3. Hello to our Danube Swabian 'cousins'! GREAT news just reached us, our speaker-extraordinary HENRY FISCHER will travel again all the way from Ontario to give us a presentation at Mt. Angel. Hurrah! Now, we can't miss this opportunity to learn more about our unique Donauschwaben history from a DS pro. It looks like Henry's long awaited next book might be ready by that time also. Great news! Hope you can come! See you there, Rosina www.hrastovac.net

    02/04/2010 12:12:30
    1. [BANAT-L] Koch family in Rudolfsgnad
    2. Dee Koch
    3. I have hit a brick wall with this family and would appreciate any help. Josef Koch Sr is the oldest known member. He was born in 1862. I found a reference that his father may have been named Andrew, but have not confirmed this yet. He married Theresa Unknown ca 1891. Her maiden name may possibly have been Hoffmann, but I haven't been able to verify this. They had six children prior to their immigration to the US-Josef Jr (b 1892), Agnes (b 1894), Susanna (b and d July 1896), a daughter who went by Susan or Anna (b 1899), Elizabeth (b ca 1901) and Josef John (b 1904). I know the family lived in Rudolfsgnad at least a couple years because Agnes mentioned it in her account of the family coming to the US and it was listed as last residence for Theresa and the three youngest children in Ellis Island records. If anyone has any information on this family or can point me in the right direction to find it myself, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks

    02/04/2010 09:57:38
    1. [BANAT-L] German Research
    2. Deva Gene Dudley
    3. I am looking for information about Coon, Gohn, Kuhn in Germany circa 1685. Deva Gene Dudley g3nie@embarqmail.com

    02/04/2010 05:32:50
    1. Re: [BANAT-L] BANAT Digest, Vol 5, Issue 35
    2. Hey John Walter, I'm also a Heidenfelder. My 4th Great Grandmother was Magdalena Heidenfelder (4/5/1797). I believe she is the sister to your Anton Heidenfelder. However, I have their parents as Nikolaus Heidenfelder (1747 - 1830) & NN Magdalena. Where did you get your info? I have most of the books that David speaks of below. I'm also using http://www.banaterheide.de/fambuch/sellesch/FAM896.HTM for my info. PS - Mom born in St. Hubert. Passing along the stories as fast as I can remember them. - Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: banat-request@rootsweb.com To: banat@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2010 3:02:01 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: BANAT Digest, Vol 5, Issue 35 Today's Topics: 1. Origin of Heidenfelders (Dave Dreyer) 2. for Hatzfeld natives! (Rosina T Schmidt) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 10:03:09 -0800 From: "Dave Dreyer" <ddreyer@pacbell.net> Subject: [BANAT-L] Origin of Heidenfelders To: "Banat List" <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <8603F64229D048BAB20EFDB0489E99BA@D99J3Q21> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" John; Use the German spelling, e.g Kloster Neustadt. Put it into Google and you will likely find the place you are looking for. There is one Kloster Neustadt on the Weinstrasse. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: John Walter To: Dave Dreyer Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] [Akdff-l] Suchanfrage Ruskodorf One of my ancestors is Susann Heidenfelder. Susanna was born July 22,1801 in Nakodorf and was married on February 22, 1819 in Kis Orosz (Ruskodorf) to Kaspar Gripeltz. Susana was the daughter of Anton Heidenfelder and Margaretha ? Anton Heidenfelder was born September 17,1774 in Billed and was the son of Johann Heidenfelder and Anna Becker both from Closterneustadt. I could never find Closterneustadt on any map. John Walter P.S. wa bornin Ruskodorf --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Dave Dreyer <ddreyer@pacbell.net> wrote: From: Dave Dreyer <ddreyer@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] [Akdff-l] Suchanfrage Ruskodorf To: "Akdff-l" <akdff-l@genealogy.net> Cc: "Banat List" <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 4:12 PM Martin; Many details of this Heidenfelder family are given in the St Hubert Familienbuch by J Kuehn. Further details can be found in Kuehn"s Heueld/Massdorf Familienbuch. Details on the son Jakob and wife Magdalena MULSON are to be found in the St Hubert Familienbuch. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Block, Martin" <martin.block@sap.com> To: "Akdff-l" <akdff-l@genealogy.net> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:55 AM Subject: [Akdff-l] Suchanfrage Ruskodorf Hallo, wer von Euch forscht in Ruskodorf und k?nnte mir bei folgendem Paar weiterhelfen? 1.) Anton Heidenfelder, geb. um 1806 in Ruskodorf; Eltern: Anton Heidenfelder & Margarethe Witt 2.) Magdalena Milzung, geb. um 1812 Beide heiraten um 1832. Ich w?re f?r jede Information sehr dankbar! Viele Gr??e Martin Block.

    02/03/2010 06:34:10
    1. [BANAT-L] AUTO: John McClellan/ADMISSIONS/Staff/CSU is out of the office. (returning Thu 02/04/2010)
    2. John A McClellan
    3. I am out of the office from Wed 02/03/2010 until Thu 02/04/2010. I will respond to your message when I return. Note: This is an automated response to your message "BANAT Digest, Vol 5, Issue 35" sent on 2/3/10 3:02:01. This is the only notification you will receive while this person is away.

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