Begin forwarded message: > From: "Dolores J. Barber" <djbarber@earthlink.net> > Date: March 1, 2010 6:15:49 AM CST > To: Uwe Detemple <u.detemple@gmail.com> > Subject: St. Michael's Church Chicago (was: Re: [BANAT-L] [Akdff-l] > STEIN in Giseladorf und Chicago) > > My apologies, Uwe. I did not know there were any others. I was > looking at the wrong one. The good news is that the FHL films for > the right one cover 1856-1973. My grandparents lived in that parish > in 1906 before later moving to St. Alphonsus parish (another German > parish). > > Here is the church's website: > > http://www.st-mikes.org/ > > The FHL entry for the church is: > Catholic Church. St. Michael (Cleveland Avenue, Chicago, Illinois) > > Google Maps may also be of some help to you in looking up addresses. > > All the best, > Dolores > > > On Feb 28, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Uwe Detemple wrote: > >> Dear Dolores, >> >> Thank you for this precious information. But which St. Michael is >> it? There is more than one in the Chicago church record list. >> >> Kind regards, >> Uwe >> >> >> 2010/2/28 Dolores J. Barber <djbarber@earthlink.net> >> 1638 Orchard St. is in St. Michael's parish. The FHL has films for >> the church records from 1903 to 1915. >> >> http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlc/frameset_fhlc.asp >> >> Good luck with your research, Uwe! >> >> Dolores Jungheim Barber >> >> >> >> On Feb 27, 2010, at 2:31 PM, Dave Dreyer wrote: >> >> Uwe; >> Since Chicago was the destination of Elisabeth Stein on her >> passenger ship record I think you can assume that she lived there >> during the entire time of her arrival in 1904 until 1911 at the >> time of the birth of her kid in 1911. If the birth of the first >> kid was registered then it should be in the pilot database. As you >> well know there are almost unlimited ways to spell the surname >> Detemple. I assume you have tried all possibilities but if not you >> must exhaust this approach in the pilot database. The usual >> strategy in such cases is the following. You know the street >> address from the birth record of the second kid. In addition, you >> can get conformation of the street address from the 1910 census. >> One then finds this street, 1638 Orchard St, on a detailed street >> map of Chicago and identifies the Catholic churches in the >> neighborhood. Hopefully there is only one. Then one checks the >> FHL catalogue to see if the records of this church are on microfilm >> in Salt Lake. >> I am no expert on Chicago and undoubtly there are many Banat LIst >> subscribers who know the city well and there would be some who >> could pinpoint the church off the top of their head since the >> Banaters tended to all live in the same neighborhood. >> If the church records are not in Salt Lake then it is a big problem >> and again there may be some Banat list subscribers who have some >> insight on how to access them. >> Dave Dreyer >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Uwe Detemple >> To: Dave Dreyer >> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 6:00 AM >> Subject: Re: [Akdff-l] STEIN in Giseladorf und Chicago >> >> Dave; >> >> Thank your for your information. I am interested in Elisabeth * 26 >> Jan 1884, in Giseladorf?. She is imigrated 1904 in the U.S. She >> married John Ditambel from Billed. When, where? Her second child is >> born on 28.02.1911 in Cook County: http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#searchType >> =standard;surname=Ditambel;p=recordResults. But in which place? And >> the first child? >> >> Maybe you know where to search for more information about this >> familiy? >> >> Thank you. >> Uwe >> >> >> 2010/2/24 Dave Dreyer <ddreyer@pacbell.net> >> >> Uwe; >> There are only a few minor differences from the Giseladorf family >> book. I include these in blue below; >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <Detemple@web.de> >> To: <akdff-l@genealogy.net> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:43 AM >> Subject: [Akdff-l] STEIN in Giseladorf und Chicago >> >> >> Bitte um Entschuldigung für den Datensalat. Hier nun meine >> Anfrage nochmal: >> >> Im Josefsdorf Giseladorf Family Register 1882-1897 von Dave >> Dreyer wird im Teil Giseladorf folgende Familie aufgeführt: >> >> STEIN Josef HN 166 ex Tolvadia >> *1850 +19 Sep 1925 Giseladorf >> oo >> FRANZ Anna ex D Zerne >> *1856 +26 Sep 1914 Giseladorf >> >> 1 Katharine * 1881 + 2 Oct 1891 ex Giselahain >> 2 Elisabeth * 26 Jan 1884 >> 3 Marianna * 22 Jan 1887 >> 4 Anna * 29 Nov 1889 >> 5 Jakob * 6 Aug 1895 HN 151 oo Katharina Krauter *Nitzkydorf >> >> Even though the Giseladorf records says that Anna Franz was born >> in D Zerne she is not listed in the newly published D Zerne >> Familienbuch by H and A Hornung. >> Josef Michels is working on a new edition of the Giseladorf >> family book-----perhaps he will have additional data in it when it >> is published. >> Dave Dreyer >> >> >> Elisabeth wandert 1904 in die USA aus: STEIN Elisabeth [S350]- >> Age: 19 -From: Giseladorf -DtAr: Sunday, 17 Jul 1904 - To: >> Chicago, IL -Via: Ham/NY -Ship: Graf Waldersee -Note: [*26 Jan >> 1884, dau of Josef Stein and Anna Franz] (Dave Dreyer http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~banatdata/DDB/ByVillage/Giseladorf.htm) >> . >> >> Dem Ehepaar Elisabeth Stein aus Gisellafalva und John Ditambel >> aus Billet, wird am 28.02.1911 im Cook County (wahrscheinlich in >> Chicago) ein Kind geboren (es ist das zweite Kind). Das Alter der >> Mutter wird mit 26 angegeben. Das würde zu Elisabeth aus obiger >> Familie passen. >> >> Lassen sich diese Angaben aus dem später erschienenen >> Familienbuch der katholischen Pfarrgemeinde Giseladorf und Panjowa >> von Nikolaus Schramm ergänzen? >> >> Danke für eure Hilfe. >> >> Uwe (Detemple) >> >> >

Hello George, Congratulations to your Seeberger Clan success! You have all the reason to be proud of it! The Mt. Angel program and schedule will be posted in due time on www.dsheritage.com pages and also will be announced via this great Banat-L list. Just what we did in 2009 you can see at: http://www.dsheritage.com/mtangel/schedule.aspx. 2010 will have a similar content, but hopefully even better! It would be grand if you could bring at least some of you Seeberger relations with you, and that updated copy of the booklet co-authored by your cousin Wilbert Navratil. Sorry to hear that he passed away last year. Keizer Renaissance Hotel is already accepting the reservations for Sept. 16th - 19th. http://www.keizerrenaissanceinn.com Hope to see you at Mt. Angel! Rosina www.hrastovac.net > To: Rootsweb & Others from Yakima, WA > Greetings: > > Would you kindly mail or e-mail information and details about the > German-Hungarian gathering, Sept. 16-19, 2010 in Mt. Angel, Oregon. > My grandparents - Nicholas and Katherine Seeberger - emigrated from > Veissenheidt in The Banat to Glen Ullin, North Dakota in 1901.They came > with three children Katy, Eva and Nick. > My mother, Helen Frances Seeberger, was born to them in 1902 - one of 12 > members of that family and the first one born in the U.S. She married a > wonderful Greek immigrant, Peter Michael George, in Glendive, Montana in > 1925. > I co-authored a booklet on this wing of the vast Seeberger clan for the > Seeberger Centennial Family Reunion, July 8-9,1989 in Memorial Park, Glen > Ullin. Of the estimated 300 family members in the West, 150 showed up. > I don't know that I can attend the Mt. Angel event, but I would really > like to and perhaps bring some other Seeberger rerlations. > In any event, I would gladly send a slightly updated copy of the booklet > that was co-authored by cousin Wilbert Navratil who sadly died last > December in Minneapolis. > It should be noted that Wilbert's mother, Aunt Katy Navratil, the oldest > child, lived longest to 103, dying in 1998. > Hoping to hear from you, > > Paul George > 5305 Meadow Lane Court > Yakima, WA 98908-4259 > 509/966-5097

http://www.online-ofb.de/famlist.php?ofb=lenauheim&b=A&lang=de<http://www.online-ofb.de/famlist.php?ofb=lenauheim&b=A&lang=de> John, Above is a link to the Lenauheim Familienbuch on line. It contains several of your names including Grundhauser. Good luck, Harold Bratsko Commerce City, CO ----- Original Message--- From: OLKRONIES@aol.com<mailto:OLKRONIES@aol.com> To: BANAT-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 11:55 AM Subject: [BANAT-L] Small World I have focused the last 10 years of family history research in the Banat villages of Bakowa, Bogarosch, and Lenauheim. I am starting to selectively branch backwards in time and location particularly in search of my GRUNDHAUSER links. Yesterday I started skimming through the LDS on-line village history book in Neunhausen, Eschdorf, Luxemburg. Its range of records goes from 1788 - 1793. See it at _http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start_ (http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start<http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start>) I am immediately struck by the familiarity of so many of the surnames in the first couple dozen pages. For example: ADAM, BECKER, BERG, CONRADI, GENGLER, GRAFF, HEINRICH, HERMAN, HUBERT, JACOBY, KUNSCH, LAMBERT, MAJERUS, MICHAELIS, MOLITEUR, REICHARD, REUTER, ROLLING(ER), SCHAAK, SCHLOSSER, SCHMITT, SCHRODER, THEIS, and VALTER. I believe that coincidence is not knowing enough of the smaller details. John Kronberger Littleton, Colorado ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:BANAT-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have focused the last 10 years of family history research in the Banat villages of Bakowa, Bogarosch, and Lenauheim. I am starting to selectively branch backwards in time and location particularly in search of my GRUNDHAUSER links. Yesterday I started skimming through the LDS on-line village history book in Neunhausen, Eschdorf, Luxemburg. Its range of records goes from 1788 - 1793. See it at _http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start_ (http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start) I am immediately struck by the familiarity of so many of the surnames in the first couple dozen pages. For example: ADAM, BECKER, BERG, CONRADI, GENGLER, GRAFF, HEINRICH, HERMAN, HUBERT, JACOBY, KUNSCH, LAMBERT, MAJERUS, MICHAELIS, MOLITEUR, REICHARD, REUTER, ROLLING(ER), SCHAAK, SCHLOSSER, SCHMITT, SCHRODER, THEIS, and VALTER. I believe that coincidence is not knowing enough of the smaller details. John Kronberger Littleton, Colorado

My Grandparents lived on Dayton St in Chicago with a Hungarian Butcher shop across the street. They belonged to St Michaels parish. Other Grandfather lived on Clifton Ave and had a Bakery Shop nearby. Dick Barak St Francis, MN -----Original Message----- From: tmark2b <tmark2b@nethere.com> To: BANAT-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:56 am Subject: [BANAT-L] Chicago Churches Uwe: My grandparents definitely ran with other Hungarians living in Chicago and were parishioners at St. Teresa's located at 1037 W. Armitage Avenue. We found my father's 1916 baptismal certificate there. When I visited the area two years ago, I located the church which is still active. The original chapel appears in tact with additions. Good Luck. Mark in Tampa No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2705 - Release Date: 02/23/10 02:34:00 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Mt. Angel Travelers, Please all of you keep your fingers crossed, as JOHN MICHELS hopes to give us a presentation at Mt. Angel's conference this September 16-19th, provided his health will hold. Poor John (us mainly) ended up the day before departing for Oregon and Mt. Angel in the hospital. John, as you see the traffic on BANAT-L is not as heavy as it used to be, must be the sign that we are all crossing our fingers for you!!! Hope you can come! Rosina www.hrastovac.net

Uwe: My grandparents definitely ran with other Hungarians living in Chicago and were parishioners at St. Teresa's located at 1037 W. Armitage Avenue. We found my father's 1916 baptismal certificate there. When I visited the area two years ago, I located the church which is still active. The original chapel appears in tact with additions. Good Luck. Mark in Tampa No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2705 - Release Date: 02/23/10 02:34:00

1638 Orchard St. is in St. Michael's parish. The FHL has films for the church records from 1903 to 1915. http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlc/frameset_fhlc.asp Good luck with your research, Uwe! Dolores Jungheim Barber On Feb 27, 2010, at 2:31 PM, Dave Dreyer wrote: > Uwe; > Since Chicago was the destination of Elisabeth Stein on her > passenger ship record I think you can assume that she lived there > during the entire time of her arrival in 1904 until 1911 at the time > of the birth of her kid in 1911. If the birth of the first kid was > registered then it should be in the pilot database. As you well > know there are almost unlimited ways to spell the surname Detemple. > I assume you have tried all possibilities but if not you must > exhaust this approach in the pilot database. The usual strategy in > such cases is the following. You know the street address from the > birth record of the second kid. In addition, you can get > conformation of the street address from the 1910 census. One then > finds this street, 1638 Orchard St, on a detailed street map of > Chicago and identifies the Catholic churches in the neighborhood. > Hopefully there is only one. Then one checks the FHL catalogue to > see if the records of this church are on microfilm in Salt Lake. > I am no expert on Chicago and undoubtly there are many Banat LIst > subscribers who know the city well and there would be some who could > pinpoint the church off the top of their head since the Banaters > tended to all live in the same neighborhood. > If the church records are not in Salt Lake then it is a big problem > and again there may be some Banat list subscribers who have some > insight on how to access them. > Dave Dreyer > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Uwe Detemple > To: Dave Dreyer > Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 6:00 AM > Subject: Re: [Akdff-l] STEIN in Giseladorf und Chicago > > > Dave; > > Thank your for your information. I am interested in Elisabeth * 26 > Jan 1884, in Giseladorf?. She is imigrated 1904 in the U.S. She > married John Ditambel from Billed. When, where? Her second child is > born on 28.02.1911 in Cook County: http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#searchType > =standard;surname=Ditambel;p=recordResults. But in which place? And > the first child? > > Maybe you know where to search for more information about this > familiy? > > Thank you. > Uwe > > > 2010/2/24 Dave Dreyer <ddreyer@pacbell.net> > > Uwe; > There are only a few minor differences from the Giseladorf family > book. I include these in blue below; > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Detemple@web.de> > To: <akdff-l@genealogy.net> > Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:43 AM > Subject: [Akdff-l] STEIN in Giseladorf und Chicago > > > Bitte um Entschuldigung für den Datensalat. Hier nun meine > Anfrage nochmal: > > Im Josefsdorf Giseladorf Family Register 1882-1897 von Dave > Dreyer wird im Teil Giseladorf folgende Familie aufgeführt: > > STEIN Josef HN 166 ex Tolvadia > *1850 +19 Sep 1925 Giseladorf > oo > FRANZ Anna ex D Zerne > *1856 +26 Sep 1914 Giseladorf > > 1 Katharine * 1881 + 2 Oct 1891 ex Giselahain > 2 Elisabeth * 26 Jan 1884 > 3 Marianna * 22 Jan 1887 > 4 Anna * 29 Nov 1889 > 5 Jakob * 6 Aug 1895 HN 151 oo Katharina Krauter *Nitzkydorf > > Even though the Giseladorf records says that Anna Franz was born > in D Zerne she is not listed in the newly published D Zerne > Familienbuch by H and A Hornung. > Josef Michels is working on a new edition of the Giseladorf > family book-----perhaps he will have additional data in it when it > is published. > Dave Dreyer > > > Elisabeth wandert 1904 in die USA aus: STEIN Elisabeth [S350]- > Age: 19 -From: Giseladorf -DtAr: Sunday, 17 Jul 1904 - To: Chicago, > IL -Via: Ham/NY -Ship: Graf Waldersee -Note: [*26 Jan 1884, dau of > Josef Stein and Anna Franz] (Dave Dreyer http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~banatdata/DDB/ByVillage/Giseladorf.htm) > . > > Dem Ehepaar Elisabeth Stein aus Gisellafalva und John Ditambel > aus Billet, wird am 28.02.1911 im Cook County (wahrscheinlich in > Chicago) ein Kind geboren (es ist das zweite Kind). Das Alter der > Mutter wird mit 26 angegeben. Das würde zu Elisabeth aus obiger > Familie passen. > > Lassen sich diese Angaben aus dem später erschienenen > Familienbuch der katholischen Pfarrgemeinde Giseladorf und Panjowa > von Nikolaus Schramm ergänzen? > > Danke für eure Hilfe. > > Uwe (Detemple) > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Uwe; Since Chicago was the destination of Elisabeth Stein on her passenger ship record I think you can assume that she lived there during the entire time of her arrival in 1904 until 1911 at the time of the birth of her kid in 1911. If the birth of the first kid was registered then it should be in the pilot database. As you well know there are almost unlimited ways to spell the surname Detemple. I assume you have tried all possibilities but if not you must exhaust this approach in the pilot database. The usual strategy in such cases is the following. You know the street address from the birth record of the second kid. In addition, you can get conformation of the street address from the 1910 census. One then finds this street, 1638 Orchard St, on a detailed street map of Chicago and identifies the Catholic churches in the neighborhood. Hopefully there is only one. Then one checks the FHL catalogue to see if the records of this church are on microfilm in Salt Lake. I am no expert on Chicago and undoubtly there are many Banat LIst subscribers who know the city well and there would be some who could pinpoint the church off the top of their head since the Banaters tended to all live in the same neighborhood. If the church records are not in Salt Lake then it is a big problem and again there may be some Banat list subscribers who have some insight on how to access them. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: Uwe Detemple To: Dave Dreyer Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 6:00 AM Subject: Re: [Akdff-l] STEIN in Giseladorf und Chicago Dave; Thank your for your information. I am interested in Elisabeth * 26 Jan 1884, in Giseladorf?. She is imigrated 1904 in the U.S. She married John Ditambel from Billed. When, where? Her second child is born on 28.02.1911 in Cook County: http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#searchType=standard;surname=Ditambel;p=recordResults. But in which place? And the first child? Maybe you know where to search for more information about this familiy? Thank you. Uwe 2010/2/24 Dave Dreyer <ddreyer@pacbell.net> Uwe; There are only a few minor differences from the Giseladorf family book. I include these in blue below; ----- Original Message ----- From: <Detemple@web.de> To: <akdff-l@genealogy.net> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:43 AM Subject: [Akdff-l] STEIN in Giseladorf und Chicago Bitte um Entschuldigung für den Datensalat. Hier nun meine Anfrage nochmal: Im Josefsdorf Giseladorf Family Register 1882-1897 von Dave Dreyer wird im Teil Giseladorf folgende Familie aufgeführt: STEIN Josef HN 166 ex Tolvadia *1850 +19 Sep 1925 Giseladorf oo FRANZ Anna ex D Zerne *1856 +26 Sep 1914 Giseladorf 1 Katharine * 1881 + 2 Oct 1891 ex Giselahain 2 Elisabeth * 26 Jan 1884 3 Marianna * 22 Jan 1887 4 Anna * 29 Nov 1889 5 Jakob * 6 Aug 1895 HN 151 oo Katharina Krauter *Nitzkydorf Even though the Giseladorf records says that Anna Franz was born in D Zerne she is not listed in the newly published D Zerne Familienbuch by H and A Hornung. Josef Michels is working on a new edition of the Giseladorf family book-----perhaps he will have additional data in it when it is published. Dave Dreyer Elisabeth wandert 1904 in die USA aus: STEIN Elisabeth [S350]- Age: 19 -From: Giseladorf -DtAr: Sunday, 17 Jul 1904 - To: Chicago, IL -Via: Ham/NY -Ship: Graf Waldersee -Note: [*26 Jan 1884, dau of Josef Stein and Anna Franz] (Dave Dreyer http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~banatdata/DDB/ByVillage/Giseladorf.htm). Dem Ehepaar Elisabeth Stein aus Gisellafalva und John Ditambel aus Billet, wird am 28.02.1911 im Cook County (wahrscheinlich in Chicago) ein Kind geboren (es ist das zweite Kind). Das Alter der Mutter wird mit 26 angegeben. Das würde zu Elisabeth aus obiger Familie passen. Lassen sich diese Angaben aus dem später erschienenen Familienbuch der katholischen Pfarrgemeinde Giseladorf und Panjowa von Nikolaus Schramm ergänzen? Danke für eure Hilfe. Uwe (Detemple)

Johann STREITMATTER from Ulmbach is not the oldest member of this family in Banat. He was a Salpeterer's son; STRITTMATTER Johann & TREYER Rosina; see Dudestii Noi FB [the one done by Hans Grimm!], page 1234, entrance S1149. In Moritzfeld is another STREITMA(R)TTER family also originally from Schwarzwald [99% sure that there is no obvious link with the ones from Ulmbach and Dudestii Noi!]. GenealogyRO Group http://www.genealogy.ro http://www.genealogy.ro/contributions.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------- .Genealogical Research & Probate Investigations Full research capabilities for Banat, Transylvania & Romania ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Dreyer" To: "Banat List" Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] STREITMATTER location > It is highly unlikely that Michael Streitmatter was born in > Moritzfeld/Schartzwald-----assuming there is such a place. Migration to > the > Banat was largely finished about 1810. It must refer to Moritzfeld/Banat. > Aside from this, the first Streitmatter in the Banat was a Johann > Streitmatter *1745, +14 Dec 1785 Ulmbach. It is very likely that your guy > is decended from this Johann Streitmatter. A bunch of the Ulmbach > Streitmetters moved to Setschan where it is a relatively common surname. > Note that Dolatz is just down the road from Ulmbach. > Dave Dreyer > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lee August" > To: "BANAT-L" > Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 > Subject: [BANAT-L] STREITMATTER location >> Dear List - >> >> Even a trip to Dolaz and Temesoara did not progress my research on >> the STREITMATTER family. >> >> The most information i have is on Peter, my GG grandfather Peter from >> the Dolaz church records: >> >> STREITMATTER, Petrus, b. 28 Nov 1857, Dolaz, m. 7 Nov 1882, Nagy >> Sredischte (Veliko Srediste), d. 10 Sep 1937, Mt. Angel, OR >> >> His father's location is questionable: >> STREITMATTER, Michealus, b. 22 Sep 1824, Moritzeld [Schwarzwald], m. >> 23 Nov 1846, Moritzeld, (no death date/place available) >> >> The information on Michaelus was found on Ancestry.com, and I'm >> wondering if the Moirtzeld named actually is Moritzfeld in the Banat >> which is not far from either Dolaz or Veliko Srediste, probably less >> than 50 km. I have searched for a similar name in Germany but only >> come up with Moritzfeld in northern Germany not far from Dortmund. >> Nothing resembling that place name ever appears in the Swarzwald region. >> >> Michael's father was Anton STREITMATTER, but I have no other >> information for him. >> >> The Banat List members helped regarding my GG grandmother with the >> maiden name of ONDRISCKA when I wondered about the origin. from The >> Banat list pegged that name as Slovak, which indeed it turned out to >> be. The ONDRISCKA family came from Broczko, Nytra, Hungary which is >> now actually part of Slovakia. >> >> Any assistance regarding either the STREITMATTER family or the >> Moritzeld question would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Regards, >> Lee August

Our cup runth over with Streitmatters. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "GenealogyRO Group" <genealogy@banat.ro> To: "Banat List" <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 1:51 AM Subject: [BANAT-L] [GenRoG] --RE: STREITMATTER location > Johann STREITMATTER from Ulmbach is not the oldest member of this family > in > Banat. He was a Salpeterer's son; STRITTMATTER Johann & TREYER Rosina; see > Dudestii Noi FB [the one done by Hans Grimm!], page 1234, entrance S1149. > > In Moritzfeld is another STREITMA(R)TTER family also originally from > Schwarzwald [99% sure that there is no obvious link with the ones from > Ulmbach and Dudestii Noi!]. > > > > GenealogyRO Group > > http://www.genealogy.ro > > http://www.genealogy.ro/contributions.htm > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > .Genealogical Research & Probate Investigations > > Full research capabilities for Banat, Transylvania & Romania > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Dreyer" > To: "Banat List" > Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] STREITMATTER location > >> It is highly unlikely that Michael Streitmatter was born in >> Moritzfeld/Schartzwald-----assuming there is such a place. Migration to >> the >> Banat was largely finished about 1810. It must refer to >> Moritzfeld/Banat. >> Aside from this, the first Streitmatter in the Banat was a Johann >> Streitmatter *1745, +14 Dec 1785 Ulmbach. It is very likely that your >> guy >> is decended from this Johann Streitmatter. A bunch of the Ulmbach >> Streitmetters moved to Setschan where it is a relatively common surname. >> Note that Dolatz is just down the road from Ulmbach. >> Dave Dreyer >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Lee August" >> To: "BANAT-L" >> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 >> Subject: [BANAT-L] STREITMATTER location >>> Dear List - >>> >>> Even a trip to Dolaz and Temesoara did not progress my research on >>> the STREITMATTER family. >>> >>> The most information i have is on Peter, my GG grandfather Peter from >>> the Dolaz church records: >>> >>> STREITMATTER, Petrus, b. 28 Nov 1857, Dolaz, m. 7 Nov 1882, Nagy >>> Sredischte (Veliko Srediste), d. 10 Sep 1937, Mt. Angel, OR >>> >>> His father's location is questionable: >>> STREITMATTER, Michealus, b. 22 Sep 1824, Moritzeld [Schwarzwald], m. >>> 23 Nov 1846, Moritzeld, (no death date/place available) >>> >>> The information on Michaelus was found on Ancestry.com, and I'm >>> wondering if the Moirtzeld named actually is Moritzfeld in the Banat >>> which is not far from either Dolaz or Veliko Srediste, probably less >>> than 50 km. I have searched for a similar name in Germany but only >>> come up with Moritzfeld in northern Germany not far from Dortmund. >>> Nothing resembling that place name ever appears in the Swarzwald region. >>> >>> Michael's father was Anton STREITMATTER, but I have no other >>> information for him. >>> >>> The Banat List members helped regarding my GG grandmother with the >>> maiden name of ONDRISCKA when I wondered about the origin. from The >>> Banat list pegged that name as Slovak, which indeed it turned out to >>> be. The ONDRISCKA family came from Broczko, Nytra, Hungary which is >>> now actually part of Slovakia. >>> >>> Any assistance regarding either the STREITMATTER family or the >>> Moritzeld question would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Lee August > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

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Lee; It is highly unlikely that Michael Streitmatter was born in Moritzfeld/Schartzwald-----assuming there is such a place. Migration to the Banat was largely finished about 1810. It must refer to Moritzfeld/Banat. Aside from this, the first Streitmatter in the Banat was a Johann Streitmatter *1745, +14 Dec 1785 Ulmbach. It is very likely that your guy is decended from this Johann Streitmatter. A bunch of the Ulmbach Streitmetters moved to Setschan where it is a relatively common surname. Note that Dolatz is just down the road from Ulmbach. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee August" <augusta@bendcable.com> To: "BANAT-L" <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 6:07 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] STREITMATTER location > Dear List - > > Even a trip to Dolaz and Temesoara did not progress my research on > the STREITMATTER family. > > The most information i have is on Peter, my GG grandfather Peter from > the Dolaz church records: > > STREITMATTER, Petrus, b. 28 Nov 1857, Dolaz, m. 7 Nov 1882, Nagy > Sredischte (Veliko Srediste), d. 10 Sep 1937, Mt. Angel, OR > > His father's location is questionable: > STREITMATTER, Michealus, b. 22 Sep 1824, Moritzeld [Schwarzwald], m. > 23 Nov 1846, Moritzeld, (no death date/place available) > > The information on Michaelus was found on Ancestry.com, and I'm > wondering if the Moirtzeld named actually is Moritzfeld in the Banat > which is not far from either Dolaz or Veliko Srediste, probably less > than 50 km. I have searched for a similar name in Germany but only > come up with Moritzfeld in northern Germany not far from Dortmund. > Nothing resembling that place name ever appears in the Swarzwald region. > > Michael's father was Anton STREITMATTER, but I have no other > information for him. > > The Banat List members helped regarding my GG grandmother with the > maiden name of ONDRISCKA when I wondered about the origin. from The > Banat list pegged that name as Slovak, which indeed it turned out to > be. The ONDRISCKA family came from Broczko, Nytra, Hungary which is > now actually part of Slovakia. > > Any assistance regarding either the STREITMATTER family or the > Moritzeld question would be greatly appreciated. > > Regards, > > Lee August > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear List - Even a trip to Dolaz and Temesoara did not progress my research on the STREITMATTER family. The most information i have is on Peter, my GG grandfather Peter from the Dolaz church records: STREITMATTER, Petrus, b. 28 Nov 1857, Dolaz, m. 7 Nov 1882, Nagy Sredischte (Veliko Srediste), d. 10 Sep 1937, Mt. Angel, OR His father's location is questionable: STREITMATTER, Michealus, b. 22 Sep 1824, Moritzeld [Schwarzwald], m. 23 Nov 1846, Moritzeld, (no death date/place available) The information on Michaelus was found on Ancestry.com, and I'm wondering if the Moirtzeld named actually is Moritzfeld in the Banat which is not far from either Dolaz or Veliko Srediste, probably less than 50 km. I have searched for a similar name in Germany but only come up with Moritzfeld in northern Germany not far from Dortmund. Nothing resembling that place name ever appears in the Swarzwald region. Michael's father was Anton STREITMATTER, but I have no other information for him. The Banat List members helped regarding my GG grandmother with the maiden name of ONDRISCKA when I wondered about the origin. from The Banat list pegged that name as Slovak, which indeed it turned out to be. The ONDRISCKA family came from Broczko, Nytra, Hungary which is now actually part of Slovakia. Any assistance regarding either the STREITMATTER family or the Moritzeld question would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Lee August

Does anyone have a current email address for Charles Amann? Ray

Hi George, I know the marriage between Pierre ADAM and Anne MARCHAL (29/4/1755, Vittoncourt). Pierre was the son of Jean and Marguerite BOURGUIGNON. Am I right if I understand, from your informations, that Pierre is the father of Jean and François (the 2 guys who married PERRIN ladies) ? And Jean was married, first with Katharina LORENZ (17/2/1784, St-Hubert) and, second with Catherine PERRIN. But, I have a problem with dates of death of these 2 ladies; my informations are Katharina died 17/3/1825 and Catherine 11/3/1825; of course I have, minimum, one mistake somewhere.... Please, HELP ! Daniel From: gadams@elknet.net To: danielhilaire@hotmail.com Subject: ADAM Family Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:43:58 -0600 Hello Daniel you are correct they were Brothers but Jean Pierre ADAM came from Han-Sur Nied and had a second marriage to a MARCHAL his Father was Jean ADAM B-1699 Abaucourt M-to Marguerite BOURGUIGNON in Remilly abt 1721, do you have Info.on Family before Paquin ADAM B-abt 1615 Destry? By the way i live in the U.S. Bye For Now George Adam(s) _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail : une messagerie fiable avec une protection anti-spam performante https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969

Scam Warning!!! A couple of subscribers to the list recently received a message from a former subscriber stating how he was someplace in Europe and had been robbed and needed money to get back home. The person is no longer a Banat subscriber so the email message to the list bounced. This a scam that has been going on for a couple of years. Somehow the email address for a person is hijacked....someone gets control of the address and password, changes the password and can do an amazing amount of damage given what they find in the email and email address book that are stored on a server....NOT your local PC. These messages will generally originate from addresses such as yahoo.com, gmail.com and hotmail.com. Never respond to the message....the person is either already aware of the problem or will not be able receive your message since he/she has been cut off from their email because the password was changed. Sending a message to them only gives the hijacker a live email address. I've seen a couple of these this year and three last year. In the last case I knew the person and called him. He was already aware of the hijack and was jumping through all kinds of hoops trying to minimize the damage. A good way to reduce the possibility of one of these hijackings is to make certain you use a strong password, i.e., one which contains at least one or two upper case letters and one or two numbers. And including a special character such as ! or # will also make it stronger. Also make certain that you do not store passwords in any messages that are left on the server. You can imagine the damage a person could do knowing the passwords to your bank account. Steve

Last time we were in Hungary we saw storks high on telephone poles or electrical poles. Diane Lott

Hello Lorraine, There is a lot of KARCHE, KARCHER in Moselle. They are from Saint-Avold, Achain, Haboudange. I don't know any of them in Banat but it's quite possible that there is, in fact. May be also with other spelling as Margaretha KARCHES who married Peter CLASQUIN on 1808 in Katreinfeld. If you give me more informations on people you look for I'll do my best to be usefull. Daniel > Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:50:02 -0600 > From: lpflau@ilstu.edu > To: danielhilaire@hotmail.com > Subject: French in Banat > > Bon Jour Daniel, > > I noticed your e-mail on the Banat site and wonder if you have come > across KAPCHE. The family stories tell of an origin in France and > that the family is related to the CAPET. The family came to USA from > Deutches St. Micheal, Austria-Hungary and are German speaking, but > telling of French connections. > > Merci, > Lorraine > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using Illinois State University Webmail. > > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail : une messagerie fiable avec une protection anti-spam performante https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969

Hi George, I know two ADAM : Jean and François who lived in house #26 in St-Hubert; I bet they were two brothers but I think their origin was Arracourt and not Destry; They both married PERRIN; probably sisters too. Is there any connection with your ancestors ? Daniel > From: gadams@elknet.net > To: danielhilaire@hotmail.com > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] abbreviations and symbols > Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:41:06 -0600 > > Hello Daniel my Ancestors originaly came from > Destry in Lorraine they went to St.Hubert 1770 his > Name was Jean P.ADAM do you know of this Family. > Hope You Can Read This George Adam(s) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel HILAIRE" <danielhilaire@hotmail.com> > To: <cjdeschu@yahoo.com>; "List BANAT" <banat@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 10:40 AM > Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] abbreviations and symbols > > > > > > Bonsoir Cathy, > > > > I am very interested; I am a frequent user of FB of "french villages" in > > Banat, looking for my cousins there (GRIFFATON, LEFORT, GUENARDE, HAMANT, > > LAURENT, ADAM, VILLER, REGNIER, DEHAND, etc...) > > But, as I don't speak german (and I do have a bad english), these > > abbreviations are always difficult for me. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Daniel HILAIRE > > Bordeaux > > > > PS : Is your name with french origin ? > > PS2 : At the moment I am working in Bishkek where usually there is a lot > > of snow during winter; but nothing this year ! > > > > > > > >> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:54:17 -0800 > >> From: cjdeschu@yahoo.com > >> To: banat@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: [BANAT-L] abbreviations and symbols > >> > >> Over the years, I've developed (with lots of help) a sort of glossary of > >> Banat abbreviations and symbols. It's quite long, so rather than try to > >> email it to the list in pieces, I'll email it in total to anyone > >> interested. > >> > >> Cathy Deschu in eastern Pennsylvania - > >> waiting for 4th snowstorm this month - good thing I like snow > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Hotmail : une messagerie fiable avec la protection anti-spam performante > > de Microsoft > > https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2692 - Release Date: 02/16/10 > 19:35:00 > _________________________________________________________________ Votre messagerie et bien plus où que vous soyez. Passez à Windows Live Hotmail, c'est gratuit ! https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969