Thanks for posting the link to this article, Rosina. I was amazed by it. There is so much I have been unaware of, and Neary makes some very good points in this article. It's interesting that people seem to justify cruelty by saying other people have been cruel. I hope we see more like this, because stereotyping of Germans as Nazis should have worn out a long time ago. I think with articles like this and movies like "Valkyrie," we may have a good start at getting rid of it. Susan M --- On Fri, 3/5/10, Rosina T Schmidt <rosinats@shaw.ca> wrote: From: Rosina T Schmidt <rosinats@shaw.ca> Subject: [BANAT-L] Brigitte U. Neary: Recognition Stigma To: Banat@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, March 5, 2010, 9:39 AM Brigitte U. Neary, the  Associate Professor of Sociology Department of Social Sciences, Philosophy and History University of South Carolina Spartanburg, submitted for Presentation at the Annual Meeting of the American Sociological Association, San Francisco, CA, August 14-17, 2004: Recognition Stigma: On the Displacement of German Women from East Central Europe, 1944-1950 You can read her presentation at: http://www.allacademic.com//meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/1/1/0/3/8/pages110380/p110380-1.php It is good to know that more and more 'swept under the carpets' stories come finily to light. Rosina www.hrastovac.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good Morning! Dr. Kearn Schemm wrote quite an interesting article on Ethnic German's Leidensweg: http://www.abandonedandforgotten.com/review-schemm/ Best regards, Rosina www.hrastovac.net

Dear Mr. Jacob: I have a family background somewhat similar to yours. I call myself just plain American although my parents called themselves German-American though they were both in the US, raised in The Banat and returned the US. My mother's family (named Hans) originated in the Rhine-Pfalz not far from Saarbrücken. However I have been unable to trace them back beyond 1735. How did you manage to trace your roots back to 1522? I presume must have had access to records in the 16th century. May I ask how you obtained them? Thank you, John Frey San Luis Obispo CA In a message dated 3/7/2010 7:51:06 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, capehatreal@yahoo.com writes: I have a family tree where my ancestors originated in what is now Saarland, Deutschland in 1522. They moved in the early 1700's during the second generation immigration to what is now Temesware, Romania. My mother came from what is now Gertinosch (Carpinis) Romania and my father came from (what is now...or was then in 1912) Sartscha, Yugosolvia. My grandfather on my mother's side came from what is now and was then Bogarosch...(now in Romania)....both my brother and I were born in the USA and we are the last of the true European blood line. I was born during WWII (1944)., my brother not until 1950.

Hello, I read your comments and need some help! I have a family tree where my ancestors originated in what is now Saarland, Deutschland in 1522. They moved in the early 1700's during the second generation immigration to what is now Temesware, Romania. My mother came from what is now Gertinosch (Carpinis) Romania and my father came from (what is now...or was then in 1912) Sartscha, Yugosolvia. My grandfather on my mother's side came from what is now and was then Bogarosch...(now in Romania)....both my brother and I were born in the USA and we are the last of the true European blood line. I was born during WWII (1944)., my brother not until 1950. My questions is ....what am I?..... A German American?..... Or an Austrian-Hungarian German American...Or am I a German American Donauschwaben?...or Holy Roma Empire Austrian-Hungarian/....or something else depending on what time period and war period we were born?....or maybe just a plain American with an Austrian-Hungarian Blood Line? What come first...the chicken or egg? I really would like some opionions. Thanks and Have a Great Day! Frank A. Jakob, Broker-Associate Coldwell Banker Residential Real Estate, LLC 3301 Del Prado Blvd Cape Coral, Fl 33904 Toll Free/Office: 800-741-1912 Local/Office: 239-945-1414 Fax: 239-542-9212 Cell: 239-989-8852 e-mail: frank.jakob@floridamoves.com web: www.floridamoves.com/frank.jakob -----Original Message----- From: banat-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:banat-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Daniel HILAIRE Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 3:01 PM To: rosinats@shaw.ca; List BANAT Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Book preview: Rita Tomkins' From Banat to Bailey Avenue Bonjour Rosina, For sure I'll be interested to read this book. Bur let me try to correct one point in Rita's presentation : Danube Swabians were not German settlers. At the time they settled in Banat, Germany didn't even exist; and those arriving from Lorraine were not french as Lorraine was not yet a part of France. And this is why they were "Swabians"; nothing else but isn't it enough ?! Daniel Hilaire Bordeaux, France. > From: rosinats@shaw.ca > To: Banat@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 07:36:08 -0800 > Subject: [BANAT-L] Book preview: Rita Tomkins' From Banat to Bailey Avenue > > > Hello to my Donauschwaben Cousins, > > Another book on our DS Leidensweg is forthcoming: From Banat to Bailey Avenue, by Rita Tomkins. > > > Rita Tomkins wrote: > > "This is Resi's story and then her daughter Anna's story, which together tell the history of the Danube Swabians, a community of German settlers living in Eastern Europe before, during, and after World War II. As Germans living in Romania, they didn't really belong to one country or the other. They had their own culture, rich with customs and traditions and the occasional paradox. Some were seasoned travelers, living part time in bustling New York City to make money, but usually returning home to the rural life they loved. At the end of World War II, their world was destroyed. Their land was confiscated by the new communist government, and adults-both male and female-were sent to forced labor camps hundreds of miles away. > > > > This is an interesting corner of history that deserves to be illuminated and preserved. And I have been blessed to receive true stories about it that read like a novel. > > My mother is a natural oral historian and these are the stories I have been hearing all my life. > > > > This is my mother's story and her mother's story and, to help modern readers make a connection, part of my American story as well. From Banat to Bailey Avenue vividly presents a time and place that doesn't exist anymore except in the memories of aging Swabians who have scattered across the west. It strives to preserve their world within an engaging true story." > > > > It will be interesting to read it. > > > > Rosina > > www.hrastovac.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail : une messagerie fiable avec une protection anti-spam performante https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bonjour Rosina, For sure I'll be interested to read this book. Bur let me try to correct one point in Rita's presentation : Danube Swabians were not German settlers. At the time they settled in Banat, Germany didn't even exist; and those arriving from Lorraine were not french as Lorraine was not yet a part of France. And this is why they were "Swabians"; nothing else but isn't it enough ?! Daniel Hilaire Bordeaux, France. > From: rosinats@shaw.ca > To: Banat@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 07:36:08 -0800 > Subject: [BANAT-L] Book preview: Rita Tomkins' From Banat to Bailey Avenue > > > Hello to my Donauschwaben Cousins, > > Another book on our DS Leidensweg is forthcoming: From Banat to Bailey Avenue, by Rita Tomkins. > > > Rita Tomkins wrote: > > "This is Resi’s story and then her daughter Anna’s story, which together tell the history of the Danube Swabians, a community of German settlers living in Eastern Europe before, during, and after World War II. As Germans living in Romania, they didn’t really belong to one country or the other. They had their own culture, rich with customs and traditions and the occasional paradox. Some were seasoned travelers, living part time in bustling New York City to make money, but usually returning home to the rural life they loved. At the end of World War II, their world was destroyed. Their land was confiscated by the new communist government, and adults—both male and female—were sent to forced labor camps hundreds of miles away. > > > > This is an interesting corner of history that deserves to be illuminated and preserved. And I have been blessed to receive true stories about it that read like a novel. > > My mother is a natural oral historian and these are the stories I have been hearing all my life. > > > > This is my mother’s story and her mother’s story and, to help modern readers make a connection, part of my American story as well. From Banat to Bailey Avenue vividly presents a time and place that doesn’t exist anymore except in the memories of aging Swabians who have scattered across the west. It strives to preserve their world within an engaging true story." > > > > It will be interesting to read it. > > > > Rosina > > www.hrastovac.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail : une messagerie fiable avec une protection anti-spam performante https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969

Hello Mt. Angel Travelers, For those of us who have roots in Banat and would also like to travel there, our GLEN SCHWARTZ will give us a short slide presentation as the last session on Friday, the 17th of September. If you would like to know more about Glen's tour to the Banat you can stay after his presentation and others might want to head to Mt. Angel instead. Glen, it will be great to see you again! Rosina www.hrastovac.net P.S. for hotel reservation: Red Lion Hotel in Salem, Oregon: http://redlion.rdln.com/HotelLocator/HotelOverview.aspx?metaID=42

hi all the list, The festival of Sarreguemines invites this year the Banat expo, conference about the Banat, genealogy it begins the 18 march see here: http://mirreddeplatt.sarreguemines.fr Charles P Avant d'imprimer, pensez à l'environnement Dèngge òn de Ùmwèlt, iwwerlèije ’s èisch bevòrm Ussdrùgge !

Hello to my Danube Swabian Cousins, Johann Wolfgang Goethe was born in Hesse (Frankfurt a. M. 28. VIII. 1749, † Weimar 22. III. 1832), just like most of your ancestors who relocated from Hesse to the Hungarian Plains. Are any of his family's names also on your chart? http://goethe-genealogie.de/verwandtschaft/ahnentafel/ahnentafel.html Greetings from Vancouver Island, Rosina www.hrastovac.net

Bonjour Laura, I am very interested in "french familes" such as BARBIER, MARTIN, MICHEL(S) & PAUL. Thanks Daniel Hilaire Bordeaux, France. > > -----Original Message----- > From: banat-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:banat-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Laura McCollum > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 5:34 PM > To: banat@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BANAT-L] Hatzfeld Surnames > > > > I just happened to find in my computer files a list of the surnames Sorin > provided me with from his research in Hatzfeld! That's what I get for > posting first and researching later! *laughing* > > They are as follows: > > > > Ackerman > > Anton > > Auer > > Augenstein > > Bach > > Barbier > > Becker > > Behlen > > Belen > > Birkenheier > > Blum > > Bohr > > Bortscheller (Portscheller) > > Decker > > Dill > > Doffing > > Dojka (Stocia/Sztojka, Sztojka) > > Dragany (Draganyi) > > Dreisz > > Ekkert > > Engle > > Fender > > Feigel/Veigel > > Filippi > > Frank > > Freisz > > Franz > > Goldschek > > Gotz > > Hass > > Haasz > > Haubrich > > Heep > > Henika > > Hepp > > Illich > > Ioszt > > Jaener > > Jung > > Kamnu > > Karthian > > Kartje > > Kartye (Kartie, Kartje, Karsze) > > Keller > > Klien > > Koch > > Komesz > > Konig > > Konrad > > Kraemer > > Kramer > > Kruch > > Krutch > > Kuhn > > Kwint > > Kwitter > > Lambi > > Laiher > > Lambing > > Lauter > > Lentz > > Luter > > Leitinger > > Maex > > Martin > > Mayer > > Minert > > Michlsz > > Michels > > Moling > > Muhlroth > > Muller > > Nauert > > Neidenbach > > Neff > > Neuher > > Otlo > > Paul > > Pfeifer > > Portscheller > > Quint > > Rehmer > > Reinholcz > > Reiter > > Roden > > Roster > > Roszter > > Samson > > Scheer > > Schira > > Schlitter > > Schmidt > > Schnur > > Schonthaler > > Schriffert > > Schumacher > > Schutz > > Schwartz > > Schwum (?) > > Spick > > Streider > > Stritter > > Strunk > > Tabar > > Tendler/Fendler > > Tengler > > Thaut > > Theiszen > > Traganyi > > Treisz > > Veiger/Feigel > > Wageszer > > Wagner > > Weber > > Weisenmeier > > Wiesenmayer > > Wekesser > > Wekeszer > > Wilmsz > > Wimmer > > Zachari > > > Let me know if you need a look-up! :) > > Laura McCollum > Michigan > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail : une messagerie fiable avec une protection anti-spam performante https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969

Hello to my Donauschwaben Cousins, Another book on our DS Leidensweg is forthcoming: From Banat to Bailey Avenue, by Rita Tomkins. Rita Tomkins wrote: "This is Resi’s story and then her daughter Anna’s story, which together tell the history of the Danube Swabians, a community of German settlers living in Eastern Europe before, during, and after World War II. As Germans living in Romania, they didn’t really belong to one country or the other. They had their own culture, rich with customs and traditions and the occasional paradox. Some were seasoned travelers, living part time in bustling New York City to make money, but usually returning home to the rural life they loved. At the end of World War II, their world was destroyed. Their land was confiscated by the new communist government, and adults—both male and female—were sent to forced labor camps hundreds of miles away. This is an interesting corner of history that deserves to be illuminated and preserved. And I have been blessed to receive true stories about it that read like a novel. My mother is a natural oral historian and these are the stories I have been hearing all my life. This is my mother’s story and her mother’s story and, to help modern readers make a connection, part of my American story as well. From Banat to Bailey Avenue vividly presents a time and place that doesn’t exist anymore except in the memories of aging Swabians who have scattered across the west. It strives to preserve their world within an engaging true story." It will be interesting to read it. Rosina www.hrastovac.net

Hello Mt. Angel Travelers, Please note that this year we will be staying at two hotels, as the Keizer hotel is by now booked out. The other location is Red Lions Hotel at Salem, Oregon, where we also stayed before and easier to find when one comes from Interstate 5: http://redlion.rdln.com/HotelLocator/HotelOverview.aspx?metaID=42 Hope to see you at Mt. Angel! Rosina www.hrastovac.net

Laura - Any information on Reiter's would be appreciated. Michael Kausch -----Original Message----- From: banat-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:banat-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Laura McCollum Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 5:34 PM To: banat@rootsweb.com Subject: [BANAT-L] Hatzfeld Surnames I just happened to find in my computer files a list of the surnames Sorin provided me with from his research in Hatzfeld! That's what I get for posting first and researching later! *laughing* They are as follows: Ackerman Anton Auer Augenstein Bach Barbier Becker Behlen Belen Birkenheier Blum Bohr Bortscheller (Portscheller) Decker Dill Doffing Dojka (Stocia/Sztojka, Sztojka) Dragany (Draganyi) Dreisz Ekkert Engle Fender Feigel/Veigel Filippi Frank Freisz Franz Goldschek Gotz Hass Haasz Haubrich Heep Henika Hepp Illich Ioszt Jaener Jung Kamnu Karthian Kartje Kartye (Kartie, Kartje, Karsze) Keller Klien Koch Komesz Konig Konrad Kraemer Kramer Kruch Krutch Kuhn Kwint Kwitter Lambi Laiher Lambing Lauter Lentz Luter Leitinger Maex Martin Mayer Minert Michlsz Michels Moling Muhlroth Muller Nauert Neidenbach Neff Neuher Otlo Paul Pfeifer Portscheller Quint Rehmer Reinholcz Reiter Roden Roster Roszter Samson Scheer Schira Schlitter Schmidt Schnur Schonthaler Schriffert Schumacher Schutz Schwartz Schwum (?) Spick Streider Stritter Strunk Tabar Tendler/Fendler Tengler Thaut Theiszen Traganyi Treisz Veiger/Feigel Wageszer Wagner Weber Weisenmeier Wiesenmayer Wekesser Wekeszer Wilmsz Wimmer Zachari Let me know if you need a look-up! :) Laura McCollum Michigan _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Alfred DeZayas' letter to St. Louis' Ethnic German conference of last Saturday: Good morning, good afternoon and good evening Ladies and gentlemen, dear Anne Morrison This is Alfred de Zayas from the Geneva School of Diplomacy On Friday 12 February I wish I could be with you in St. Louis But as you may know, from 22 to 25 February I shall be in Bilbao as rapporteur of a conference aiming at drafting a Declaration on Peace as a Human Right. Indeed, there is a human right to peace And there is a right to one’s homeland, a right to one’s identity and a right to truth. These are fundamental human rights – all too often ignored. I take this opportunity to reaffirm my conviction that high schools, colleges and graduate schools have a responsibility to do more to educate the younger generations About human rights, about peace, about identity – This entails among others, teaching history Not excluding whole chapters of history, nor practicing generalization and demonization of others. The German historian Leopold von Ranke spoke of writing history “wie es eigentlich gewesen” Just as things occurred In the complexity of factors, taking note of causal relationships, and in the right perspective. It is too simplistic to pretend that the world is divided into two camps – the good guys and the bad guys – us and them When I studied history in high school, college and graduate school The expulsion of 14 million Germans at the end of the second world war was not a theme – It was never mentioned, neither in the textbooks and nor in the lectures. I learned about it by chance at Harvard Law School, when in a seminar on international law I heard that forcible population transfers were illegal. Obvious, of course, How could it be legal to expel 14 million human beings from their homelands where their ancestors had lived for seven centuries. This was big – and yet it was totally ignored. In fact, it was much bigger than any other mass expulsion in history, and more murderous than ethnic cleansing in the former Yugoslavia, and yet no one talks about it. Back in the 70’s I got a Fulbright and went to Germany to study this historical cataclysm. The result was my book “Nemesis at Potsdam” I interviewed George Kennan, Robert Murphy, James Riddleberger, Sir Geoffrey Harrison, Sir Dennis Allen and so many other officials and participants at the key conferences of Teheran, Yalta and Potsdam. I then helped make a television documentary for the Bayerischer Rundfunk – Flucht und Vertreibung – and made a book out of it A Terrible Revenge, published by St. Martin’s Press, and now in paperback by Palgrave/Macmillan. The subject matter has not left me Bottom line: the expulsion was not only illegal, it was evidence of a moral failure in the democracies And the continued taboo that hangs over it, is unworthy of a democracy. Bottom line: everyone has a right to one’s homeland without fear of being expelled. The German expellees and their descendants have a right to recognition in their status of victims. It is their human right. I wish you a great conference and many more. ........................................... Thank you Anita Pare for sharing it with us! Rosina www.hrastovac.net

Hello Mt. Angel travelers, We just received the news that BRIAN LANDRY'S CD (his doctoral thesis) titled: SHNAPSCHOTS OF A NIGHTMARE will be available at Mt. Angel. Brian used interviews with survivors to determine what qualities, characteristics &/or circumstances helped some to survive the genocide... The nightmare still is the internment, torture, starvation etc...under the Tito regime. Alas, less and less of the survivors are still among us, so Brian's research is a great contribution to our Danube Swabian history. Thank you, Brian! See you at Mt. Angel, Rosina www.hrastovac.net P.S. for hotel booking please go directly to: http://www.keizerrenaissanceinn.com/

Hi.here is Info. Mathias B-1855 Ernesthausen D-1919 N.D. M-Anna Koch ************************************************************* Nicolas B-1828 M-Ernesthausen M-Katherina MARX B-1832 St.Hubert Daughter of ************************************************************* Nicolas MARX And Susanna ADAM B- 1799 St Hubert Bye For Now George Adam(s)

That is very much appreciated. I am in search of Remsing surname, and any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Steve Remsing ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura McCollum" <mccollumlaura@hotmail.com> To: <banat@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 5:33 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] Hatzfeld Surnames > > > I just happened to find in my computer files a list of the surnames Sorin > provided me with from his research in Hatzfeld! That's what I get for > posting first and researching later! *laughing* > > They are as follows: > > > > Ackerman > > Anton > > Auer > > Augenstein > > Bach > > Barbier > > Becker > > Behlen > > Belen > > Birkenheier > > Blum > > Bohr > > Bortscheller (Portscheller) > > Decker > > Dill > > Doffing > > Dojka (Stocia/Sztojka, Sztojka) > > Dragany (Draganyi) > > Dreisz > > Ekkert > > Engle > > Fender > > Feigel/Veigel > > Filippi > > Frank > > Freisz > > Franz > > Goldschek > > Gotz > > Hass > > Haasz > > Haubrich > > Heep > > Henika > > Hepp > > Illich > > Ioszt > > Jaener > > Jung > > Kamnu > > Karthian > > Kartje > > Kartye (Kartie, Kartje, Karsze) > > Keller > > Klien > > Koch > > Komesz > > Konig > > Konrad > > Kraemer > > Kramer > > Kruch > > Krutch > > Kuhn > > Kwint > > Kwitter > > Lambi > > Laiher > > Lambing > > Lauter > > Lentz > > Luter > > Leitinger > > Maex > > Martin > > Mayer > > Minert > > Michlsz > > Michels > > Moling > > Muhlroth > > Muller > > Nauert > > Neidenbach > > Neff > > Neuher > > Otlo > > Paul > > Pfeifer > > Portscheller > > Quint > > Rehmer > > Reinholcz > > Reiter > > Roden > > Roster > > Roszter > > Samson > > Scheer > > Schira > > Schlitter > > Schmidt > > Schnur > > Schonthaler > > Schriffert > > Schumacher > > Schutz > > Schwartz > > Schwum (?) > > Spick > > Streider > > Stritter > > Strunk > > Tabar > > Tendler/Fendler > > Tengler > > Thaut > > Theiszen > > Traganyi > > Treisz > > Veiger/Feigel > > Wageszer > > Wagner > > Weber > > Weisenmeier > > Wiesenmayer > > Wekesser > > Wekeszer > > Wilmsz > > Wimmer > > Zachari > > > Let me know if you need a look-up! :) > > Laura McCollum > Michigan > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Laura, Do you have info on a Karl Schwartz born in 1885? /Ray At 04:21 PM 3/5/2010, Laura McCollum wrote: >Hello fellow Hatzfeld Banaters - > >Years ago I had Sorin do some research for me and I realized that I >just might be sitting on a gold mine for some people - those of you >who are searching for ancestors in those 'missing years' the >familienbuch doesn't cover. I've been trying to figure out the best >way to this - and was going to start a list of the surnames - but >realized what a job that would be. So I decided I'd simply post to >the list an offer - to look up any surname that is thrown my way . . >. perhaps this way I can help someone else break through that awful brick wall! > >Regards >Laura McCollum > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. >http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message Ray Schwartz, Systems Specialist Librarian schwartzr2@wpunj.edu David and Lorraine Cheng Library Tel: +1 973720-3192 William Paterson University Fax: +1 973 720-2585 300 Pompton Road Mobile: +1 201 424-4491 Wayne, NJ 07470-2103 USA http://euphrates.wpunj.edu/faculty/schwartzr2/

Laura, Could you look up information about the Dreisz and Treisz families?  My ggmother and her siblings emigrated from Hatzfeld in early 1900's.  Their last name on immigration documents is spelled multiple ways:  Trillsch, Trilltsch, etc.  My grandmother (her d-i-l) says it should be spelled Trieltz, although it's pronounced as if it begins with a D.  The siblings' names were Lajos/Ludwig, Klementine, Pauline and Marie.  I have no information on parentage, but they all listed Hatzfeld as the birth location. I'd appreciate any information you can find!! Thanks, Nancy ________________________________ From: Laura McCollum <mccollumlaura@hotmail.com> To: banat@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, March 5, 2010 5:33:36 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] Hatzfeld Surnames I just happened to find in my computer files a list of the surnames Sorin provided me with from his research in Hatzfeld!  That's what I get for posting first and researching later! *laughing* They are as follows: Ackerman Anton Auer Augenstein Bach Barbier Becker Behlen Belen Birkenheier Blum Bohr Bortscheller (Portscheller) Decker Dill Doffing Dojka (Stocia/Sztojka, Sztojka) Dragany (Draganyi) Dreisz Ekkert Engle Fender Feigel/Veigel Filippi Frank Freisz Franz Goldschek Gotz Hass Haasz Haubrich Heep Henika Hepp Illich Ioszt Jaener Jung Kamnu Karthian Kartje Kartye (Kartie, Kartje, Karsze) Keller Klien Koch Komesz Konig Konrad Kraemer Kramer Kruch Krutch Kuhn Kwint Kwitter Lambi Laiher Lambing Lauter Lentz Luter Leitinger Maex Martin Mayer Minert Michlsz Michels Moling Muhlroth Muller Nauert Neidenbach Neff Neuher Otlo Paul Pfeifer Portscheller Quint Rehmer Reinholcz Reiter Roden Roster Roszter Samson Scheer Schira Schlitter Schmidt Schnur Schonthaler Schriffert Schumacher Schutz Schwartz Schwum (?) Spick Streider Stritter Strunk Tabar Tendler/Fendler Tengler Thaut Theiszen Traganyi Treisz Veiger/Feigel Wageszer Wagner Weber Weisenmeier Wiesenmayer Wekesser Wekeszer Wilmsz Wimmer Zachari Let me know if you need a look-up! :) Laura McCollum Michigan                         _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I just happened to find in my computer files a list of the surnames Sorin provided me with from his research in Hatzfeld! That's what I get for posting first and researching later! *laughing* They are as follows: Ackerman Anton Auer Augenstein Bach Barbier Becker Behlen Belen Birkenheier Blum Bohr Bortscheller (Portscheller) Decker Dill Doffing Dojka (Stocia/Sztojka, Sztojka) Dragany (Draganyi) Dreisz Ekkert Engle Fender Feigel/Veigel Filippi Frank Freisz Franz Goldschek Gotz Hass Haasz Haubrich Heep Henika Hepp Illich Ioszt Jaener Jung Kamnu Karthian Kartje Kartye (Kartie, Kartje, Karsze) Keller Klien Koch Komesz Konig Konrad Kraemer Kramer Kruch Krutch Kuhn Kwint Kwitter Lambi Laiher Lambing Lauter Lentz Luter Leitinger Maex Martin Mayer Minert Michlsz Michels Moling Muhlroth Muller Nauert Neidenbach Neff Neuher Otlo Paul Pfeifer Portscheller Quint Rehmer Reinholcz Reiter Roden Roster Roszter Samson Scheer Schira Schlitter Schmidt Schnur Schonthaler Schriffert Schumacher Schutz Schwartz Schwum (?) Spick Streider Stritter Strunk Tabar Tendler/Fendler Tengler Thaut Theiszen Traganyi Treisz Veiger/Feigel Wageszer Wagner Weber Weisenmeier Wiesenmayer Wekesser Wekeszer Wilmsz Wimmer Zachari Let me know if you need a look-up! :) Laura McCollum Michigan _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/

Hello fellow Hatzfeld Banaters - Years ago I had Sorin do some research for me and I realized that I just might be sitting on a gold mine for some people - those of you who are searching for ancestors in those 'missing years' the familienbuch doesn't cover. I've been trying to figure out the best way to this - and was going to start a list of the surnames - but realized what a job that would be. So I decided I'd simply post to the list an offer - to look up any surname that is thrown my way . . . perhaps this way I can help someone else break through that awful brick wall! Regards Laura McCollum _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/