There are 3 pages of Hecks in the Stanischitz OSB. The closest I could come for a Katharina born in 1853 is: Katharina Heck *8.01.1855 Daughter of Josef Heck * 24.11.1804 in Stanischitz and Katharina Heichele *25.12.1803 in Stanischitz. If you believe this is your Katharina please let me know and I will send the rest of that family information. I did not find the name Schestak listed. Judy -----Original Message----- From: banat-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:banat-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave Dreyer Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:24 PM To: Akdff-l Cc: Banat List Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] [Akdff-l] Bitte Ergänzung:Setschan zu Karl SCHESZTAK oo Julianna RAABER Reinholdt; Pasted below is the family block for Karl Schestak and one of his sons. The first two kids, Nikolaus and Elisabeth who are in the passenger ship record must be the result from the first marriage to Katharina Heck who was from Stanischitz/Batschka. There were several families in Josefsdorf who came from Stanischitz. I think there is a Stanischitz Familienbuch in the Sindelfingen archvies which may have more information of Katharina Heck. This Schestak family moved from North Dakota out to Portland Oregon sometime between 1910 and 1920. Dave Dreyer SCHESTAK Karl HN 257 To ND 1893 *10 Jun 1861 Bakowa +Portland OR 1oo HECK Katharine ex Stanischitz/Batschka *1853 +9 Apr 1886 Josefsdorf 1 Elisabeth *16 Oct 1885 Josefsdorf To Richardton ND 1909 2oo 23 May 1886 Josefsdorf RAABER Julianna, dau of Peter RAABER and Rosina BERGKESSEL, wd of Valentin LAMBERT HN 11 *11 Jul 1852 Setschan 2 Johann *14 Jul 1888 Josefsdorf +14 Jul 1888 Josefsdorf HN 41 3 Josef *30 Sep 1889 Josefsdorf oo Anna BERNAUER 4 Johann *6 May 1892 Josefsdorf +4 Jan 1969 Portland OR, oo Margaret NN SCHESTAK Josef Heinrich, son of Karl SCHESTAK and Julianna RAABER To ND 1893 *30 Sep 1889 Josefsdorf +6 Jun 1984 Portland OR oo 20 Aug 1911 Dickinson ND BERNAUER Anna, dau of Jakob BERNAUER and A M MAZER *20 Dec 1893 Stefansfeld ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reinholdt Lovasz" <lovaszrm@web.de> To: <akdff-l@genealogy.net> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 2:04 PM Subject: [Akdff-l] Bitte Ergänzung:Setschan zu Karl SCHESZTAK oo Julianna RAABER > Familienblatt fr: Karl SCHESZTAK und Julianna RAABER [7215] > Erstellt am 09.06.2010 von Reinholdt Lovasz mit Gen_Plus aus Mandant: > C:\GEN_PLUSWIN\BAKOWA OFB 06.06.2010\ > Vater: > < 15815> Karl SCHESZTAK, rk > * am 10.06.1861 HNr.10 in Bakowa. > ~ am 11.06.1861 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. II. Ba, Seite: 228/56. > Paten: Karl LAMPL; Anna CHRIST. > {SCHESTAK Carl -[S232]- Age: 32 - From: Josefsdorf -DtAr: 11 May 1893 - > To: North Dakota, ND -Via: Bre/Bal -Ship: Gera -Note: Accompanied by > wife, Julia 40 and kids, Nikolaus 11, Elisabeth 5, Josef 3 and Johann > 9/121. Initial destination, New York[*1861, Bakowa. 2oo 23 May 1886 to > Julianna Raaber, *1850, Setschan].} > Eltern: > < 14522> Johann SCHESZTAK (Sestak; Scheszler), rk > * in Jecsa Gross/Kleinjetscha?. > Beruf: Inquilinus. > oo [ 5073] 19.08.1860 in Bakowa mit > < 15091> Margaretha HACKENBERGER (Hakenperger ( geb,Schneider?)), rk > * 1829 in Lowrin TM Banat RO. > [ 7215] > mit > Mutter: > < 21529> Julianna RAABER > * 1850 ? in Setschan ?. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Akdff-l mailing list Akdff-l@genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mm/listinfo/akdff-l ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yesterday I came across an obit that I cut out of our local paper in 2003. I'd like to pass the obit onto anyone that may be related to her or anyone who may be working on a Franzfeld family book. Here are some of the facts that are in the obit: Elisabeth Mohr Klein Born in Franzfeld on July 10, 1930 Died in Elgin, IL on January 12, 2003 Parents: Friederich and Katharina (Koch) Mohr Husband: John Hans Klein Marriage date: April 1948 Judy Van Dusen Elgin, IL

Reinholdt; Pasted below are the group sheets for the North Dakota families Huth and Baar that I have I do not find an entry in the Nitzkydorf family book which would match Franz Baar. HUTH Karl, son of Josef HUTH and Katharina REINDL To ND 1898 *18 Nov 1856 Bakowa +9 Feb 1920 Gladstone ND oo 16 Nov 1880 Bakowa VEROSTA Maria, dau of Michael VEROSTA and Theresia SIEBURG *15 Jan 1861 Bakowa +19 Dec 1947 Gladstone ND 1 Johann *30 Jul 1881 oo Rosa HACK 2 Maria *3 Sep 1883 Bakowa oo Frank SCHANK 3 Theresia *14 Dec 1885 oo Franz BAAR 4 Karl *11 Jan 1888 5 Katharina *16 May 1890 +6 Dec 1892 6 Karl *31 Jan 1892 oo Maria LEFOR 7 Katharina *23 May 1895 oo Josef SCHIWAL 8 Eva *4 Apr 1898 oo Mathias WAGNER 9 Elisabeth *1900 ND 10 Anna *1904 ND HUTH Johann, son of Karl HUTH and Maria VEROSTA. To ND 1898 *30 Jul 1881 Bakowa +27 Oct 1915 oo 2 Sep 1906 Dickinson ND HACK Rosalia, dau of Josef HACK and Anna JAEGER *12 Apr 1886 Hellburg +4 Apr 1966 1 Johann *1 Sep 1907 ND +12 Nov 1928 2 M A *23 Jan 1910 ND 3 Eva *1912 ND 4 Rosa *1914 ND HUTH Karl, son of Karl HUTH and Maria VEROSTA, To ND 1898 *31 Dec 1892 Bakowa +6 Nov 1958 Yakima WA oo 1 Jun 1914 Lefor ND LEFOR Mary, dau of Mathias LEFOR and Anna KOCH *17 Dec 1895 Ernsthausen +21 Apr 1977 Gig Harbor WA 1 Mary *26 Mar 1915 ND +13 Oct 2000 Yakima WA 2 Louise *1917 ND 3 Karl *25 Feb 1924 ND +15 Apr 1974 BAAR Franz, son of Franz BAAR and Theresia BIERLING To ND 1905 *23 Jul 1879 Bakowa +22 Dec 1970 Dickinson oo 3 Jan 1908 Lefor ND HUTH Theresia, dau of Karl HUTH and Maria VEROSTA *14 Dec 1885 Bakowa +7 Jul 1965 Stark Co 1 Rosa *3 Apr 1908 Gladstone ND +2001 2 Mary Theresia *4 Oct 1910 Gladstone ND +1993 3 Katharina *21 Aug 1912 +22 Feb 1971 4 Frank *3 Mar 1914 +2000 5 Karl *13 Jun 1915 +5 Mar 1976 ----- Original Message ----- From: Lovasz To: Dave Dreyer ; Karen Dalton Preston Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 11:34 AM Subject: Karl HUTH oo Marianna VEROSZTA - Franz Xaver BAAR oo Theresia HUTH Bemerkungen zur Familie: HUTH Karl -[H300]- Age: 41 -From: Bakowa -DtAr: 14 Oct 1898 - To: North Dakota, ND -Via: Bre/Bal -Ship: Willehad -Note: Accompanied by wife, Maria 37 and kids, Johann 17, Maria 15, Theresia 11 1/2, Karl 4, Katharina 2 and Eva 6/12 [*16 Oct 1856, +9 Feb 1920 Gladstone, son of Josef Huth and Katharine Reindl, oo 16 Nov 1880 Bakowa to Maria Verasta, *15 Jan 1861, +Dec 1947 Gladstone, dau of Michael Verasta and Theresia Sieburg]. Familienblatt für: Karl HUTH und Marianna VEROSZTA [465] Erstellt am 09.06.2010 von Reinholdt Lovasz mit Gen_Plus aus Mandant: C:\GEN_PLUSWIN\BAKOWA OFB 06.06.2010\ Vater: < 1121> Karl HUTH, rk * am 18.11.1856 HNr.95 in Bakowa. ~ am 19.11.1856 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. II. Ba, Seite: 188/90. Paten: Johann LOVÁSZ; Klara KARABENSCH; + am 09.02.1920 in Gladstone North Dakota USA. Beruf: 1883 Landwirt in Bakowa. Wohnung: 1883 HNr.54 in Bakowa. {1899 nach Amerika ausgewandert} Eltern: < 768> Josef HUTH, rk * am 27.11.1818 in Bakowa. ~ am 27.11.1818 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. I. Ba Seite: 124Paten: Theresia LANG; Johann THEIS. + am 09.06.1891 HNr.95 in Bakowa. Quellen: TOB. IV. Ba, Seite: 1891/114/30. ± am 10.06.1891 in Bakowa. Beruf: Landwirt. oo [ 319] 21.01.1840 in Bakowa mit < 767> Katharina REINDL (Rayndl), rk * am 15.02.1819 in Bakowa. ~ am 15.02.1819 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. I. Ba Seite: 126 Paten: Huth Johann u. Katharina. + am 09.03.1871 HNr.27 in Bakowa. Quellen: TOB. III. Ba, Seite: 40/29. ± am 11.03.1871 in Bakowa. [ 465] oo 16.11.1880 HNr. 95; 54 in Bakowa. Trauzeugen: Johann HESZ ; Anton SCHLAPANSKY. mit Mutter: < 1142> Marianna VEROSZTA(Weroszta; Verosta) , rk * am 15.01.1861 HNr.46 in Bakowa. ~ am 16.01.1861 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. II. Ba, Seite: 224/08. Paten: Franziska WEINSCHROTT; Josef LOVÁSZ; + 12.1947 in Gladstone North Dakota USA. Wohnung: 1861 HNr.46 in Bakowa. Eltern: < 366> Michael VEROSZTA (Weroszta; Verosta), rk * 1821 in Kasovitz Mähren. ~ 1821. + am 07.05.1874 HNr.54 in Bakowa. Quellen: TOB. III. Ba, Seite: 103/104. ± am 09.05.1874 in Bakowa. Berufe: Landwirt. 26.04.1855 Zimmermann in Bakowa. oo [ 466] 06.06.1854 in Bakowa mit < 1143> Theresia SIEBURG (Szieburg; Siburg; Sziburich; Siebburg; Siburch), rk * 1832 in Temeswar-V (Mehala). + am 04.11.1887 HNr.54 in Bakowa. Quellen: TOB. IV. Ba, Seite: 1887/72/80. ± am 05.11.1887 in Bakowa. Kinder: 1. < 1144> Johann HUTH, rk * am 30.07.1881 HNr.54 in Bakowa. ~ am 31.07.1881 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. III Ba 1870-1881 Seite: 183/90Paten: Theresia PETLA; Johann KARABENSCH. Verbindung:[ 528] Mit < 1278> Rosa HACK. 2. < 1145> Maria HUTH, rk * am 03.07.1883 HNr.54 in Bakowa. ~ am 05.08.1883 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. IV. Ba 1882-1893 Seite: 24/78Paten: Theresia PETLA; Johann KARABENSCH. Verbindung:[ 529] Mit < 1279> Frank SCHANK. 3. < 1146> Theresia HUTH, rk * am 14.12.1885 HNr.45 in Bakowa. ~ am 15.12.1885 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. IV. Ba 1882-1893 Seite: 66/133Paten: Theresia PETLA; Johann KARABENSCH. Verbindung:[ 467] Mit < 1147> Franz Xaver BAAR, rk. 4. < 1148> Karl HUTH, rk * am 11.01.1888 HNr.45 in Bakowa. ~ am 11.01.1888 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. IV. Ba 1882-1893 Seite: 1888/109/11Paten: Theresia PETLA; Johann KARABENSCH. + am 11.12.1892 HNr.45 in Bakowa. Quellen: TOB. IV. Ba, Seite: 1892/140/114. ± am 12.12.1892 in Bakowa. 5. < 1149> Katharina HUTH, rk * am 16.05.1890 HNr.45 in Bakowa. ~ am 18.05.1890 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. IV. Ba 1882-1893 Seite: 1890/156/60Paten: Karl LOVÁSZ; Katharina FETTICH. + am 06.12.1892 HNr.45 in Bakowa. Quellen: TOB. IV. Ba, Seite: 1892/140/111. ± am 08.12.1892 in Bakowa. 6. < 1150> Karl HUTH, rk * am 30.12.1892 HNr.45 in Bakowa. ~ am 31.12.1892 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. IV. Ba 1882-1893 Seite: 1892/207/179Paten: Theresia PETLA; Johann KARABENSCH. + am 06.11.1958 in Yakima Washington USA. Verbindung:[ 468] Mit < 1151> Mary LEFOR, rk. 7. < 1152> Katharina HUTH, rk * am 23.05.1895 HNr.45 in Bakowa. ~ am 23.05.1895 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. V. Ba 1894-1914 Seite: 1895/25/63Paten: Theresia PETLA; Johann KARABENSCH. Verbindung:[ 532] Mit < 1284> Josef SCHIWAL. 8. < 1153> Eva HUTH, rk * am 04.04.1898 HNr.45 in Bakowa. ~ am 06.04.1898 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. V. Ba 1894-1914 Seite: 1898/73/38Paten: Theresia PETLA; Johann KARABENSCH. Verbindung:[ 533] Mit < 1285> Matthew WAGNER. 9. < 1154> Elisabeth HUTH, rk * 1900 in USA. Verbindung:[ 534] Mit < 1286> Michael WILLER. 10. < 1155> Anna HUTH, rk * 1904 in USA. Verbindung:[ 535] Mit < 1287> Johann WILLER. Bemerkungen zur Familie: BAAR Franz -[B600]- Age: 25 -From: Segedin-Hungary -DtAr: 18 Feb 1905 - To: North Dakota, ND -Via: Bre/Bal -Ship: Cassel -Note: Going to join father (2. oo), Jacob Dolwig [* 23 Jul 1879, Bakowa. son of Ferdinand Baar and Theresia Beoling, oo to Theresia Huth]. Familienblatt für: Franz Xaver BAAR und Theresia HUTH [467] Erstellt am 09.06.2010 von Reinholdt Lovasz mit Gen_Plus aus Mandant: C:\GEN_PLUSWIN\BAKOWA OFB 06.06.2010\ Vater: < 1147> Franz Xaver BAAR, rk I did't found him baptised in Bakowa. There was a lot of Baar (Bahr) in Nitzkydorf . Eltern: < 1281> Ferdinand BAAR (Bohling, Boehling?), rk. < 1282> Theresia BOHLING (Bohling, Boehling?), rk. [ 467] mit Mutter: < 1146> Theresia HUTH, rk * am 14.12.1885 HNr.45 in Bakowa. ~ am 15.12.1885 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. IV. Ba 1882-1893 Seite: 66/133. Paten: Theresia PETLA; Johann KARABENSCH. Eltern: < 1121> Karl HUTH, rk * am 18.11.1856 HNr.95 in Bakowa. ~ am 19.11.1856 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. II. Ba, Seite: 188/90Paten: Johann LOVÁSZ; Klara KARABENSCH. + am 09.02.1920 in Gladstone North Dakota USA. Beruf: 1883 Landwirt in Bakowa. Wohnung: 1883 HNr.54 in Bakowa. oo [ 465] 16.11.1880 in Bakowa mit < 1142> Marianna VEROSZTA (Weroszta; Verosta), rk * am 15.01.1861 HNr.46 in Bakowa. ~ am 16.01.1861 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. II. Ba, Seite: 224/08Paten: Franziska WEINSCHROTT; Josef LOVÁSZ. + 12.1947 in Gladstone North Dakota USA. Wohnung: 1861 HNr.46 in Bakowa.

Reinholdt; Pasted below is the family block for Karl Schestak and one of his sons. The first two kids, Nikolaus and Elisabeth who are in the passenger ship record must be the result from the first marriage to Katharina Heck who was from Stanischitz/Batschka. There were several families in Josefsdorf who came from Stanischitz. I think there is a Stanischitz Familienbuch in the Sindelfingen archvies which may have more information of Katharina Heck. This Schestak family moved from North Dakota out to Portland Oregon sometime between 1910 and 1920. Dave Dreyer SCHESTAK Karl HN 257 To ND 1893 *10 Jun 1861 Bakowa +Portland OR 1oo HECK Katharine ex Stanischitz/Batschka *1853 +9 Apr 1886 Josefsdorf 1 Elisabeth *16 Oct 1885 Josefsdorf To Richardton ND 1909 2oo 23 May 1886 Josefsdorf RAABER Julianna, dau of Peter RAABER and Rosina BERGKESSEL, wd of Valentin LAMBERT HN 11 *11 Jul 1852 Setschan 2 Johann *14 Jul 1888 Josefsdorf +14 Jul 1888 Josefsdorf HN 41 3 Josef *30 Sep 1889 Josefsdorf oo Anna BERNAUER 4 Johann *6 May 1892 Josefsdorf +4 Jan 1969 Portland OR, oo Margaret NN SCHESTAK Josef Heinrich, son of Karl SCHESTAK and Julianna RAABER To ND 1893 *30 Sep 1889 Josefsdorf +6 Jun 1984 Portland OR oo 20 Aug 1911 Dickinson ND BERNAUER Anna, dau of Jakob BERNAUER and A M MAZER *20 Dec 1893 Stefansfeld ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reinholdt Lovasz" <lovaszrm@web.de> To: <akdff-l@genealogy.net> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 2:04 PM Subject: [Akdff-l] Bitte Ergänzung:Setschan zu Karl SCHESZTAK oo Julianna RAABER > Familienblatt fr: Karl SCHESZTAK und Julianna RAABER [7215] > Erstellt am 09.06.2010 von Reinholdt Lovasz mit Gen_Plus aus Mandant: > C:\GEN_PLUSWIN\BAKOWA OFB 06.06.2010\ > Vater: > < 15815> Karl SCHESZTAK, rk > * am 10.06.1861 HNr.10 in Bakowa. > ~ am 11.06.1861 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. II. Ba, Seite: 228/56. > Paten: Karl LAMPL; Anna CHRIST. > {SCHESTAK Carl -[S232]- Age: 32 - From: Josefsdorf -DtAr: 11 May 1893 - > To: North Dakota, ND -Via: Bre/Bal -Ship: Gera -Note: Accompanied by > wife, Julia 40 and kids, Nikolaus 11, Elisabeth 5, Josef 3 and Johann > 9/121. Initial destination, New York[*1861, Bakowa. 2oo 23 May 1886 to > Julianna Raaber, *1850, Setschan].} > Eltern: > < 14522> Johann SCHESZTAK (Sestak; Scheszler), rk > * in Jecsa Gross/Kleinjetscha?. > Beruf: Inquilinus. > oo [ 5073] 19.08.1860 in Bakowa mit > < 15091> Margaretha HACKENBERGER (Hakenperger ( geb,Schneider?)), rk > * 1829 in Lowrin TM Banat RO. > [ 7215] > mit > Mutter: > < 21529> Julianna RAABER > * 1850 ? in Setschan ?. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Akdff-l mailing list Akdff-l@genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mm/listinfo/akdff-l

Hello Mramorak researchers, Jaroslaw Ronek of Poland is looking for his great-grandmother ELISABETH Felber, nee HARTMANN, ev., born in Mramorak on 4th of March 1898 and died in 1980 in Banja Luka, Bosnia. The family lived in Schutzberg (Glogovac), Bosnia until 1942 when they were sent in exile to what is now Poland. If you could help with his Mramorak family, please get in contact with Jaroslaw at ron@mediacity.pl or via myself. Thanks, Rosina www.hrastovac.net ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: jaro <ron@mediacity.pl> Dear Madam, I am living in Warsaw, Poland, and my roots on the mother side are Bosnian and German. I have very difficult task to find out where my family came from, since all the witnesses already died. I know they were Germans living in Schutzenberg (Glogovac) close to Prnjavor, and moved to Prnjavor, and were there on exile since 1942, like all Germans living there. My groundgroung mother was Elisabeth Felber, primo voto Hartmann – she was protestant, born in Mramorak, opstina Pancevo/Kovin, Vojevodina, on March 4, 1898, died in 30.11.1980 w Banja Luka. Her father was Christian Hartmann, a catholic, and mother Margarethe primo voto Zimmermann, a protestant. Her husband was Ladislav Felber – a catholic from a village Lukać, opstina Virovitica, close to croatian-hungarian border, born on 26.09.1892, died on 15.11.1928r. in Prnajov. His parents were Ivan Felber and Agatha primo voto Premus. Maybe you could give me a clue how to find some information about my family? With best regards, Jaroslaw Ronek

This is now the new version of Family Search with the LDS: http://fsbeta.familysearch.org/ See you all at Mt. Angel! Rosina www.hrastovac.net

Karen, Thank you for the info and the web site link.  I appreciate it. Dar ________________________________ From: Karen Dalton Preston <Karen@golden-hills.com> To: darkaso@yahoo.com Cc: Banat@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, June 7, 2010 2:39:08 PM Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] Opava/Oppowa/Konigsdorf Hi Dar, The following info on Oppowa is from the Village Index on the GenealogyNet web site -- a great resource.  It looks like it always had it's own parish, but I do not know if there is a Familienbuch for Koenigsdorf/Oppowa.  The LDS did microfilm some of the church records, but the dates are prior to the date you are looking for, so probably won't be much help until you can trace back one more generation. http://www2.genealogy.net/reg/ESE/ds_idx.htm Sorry I can't be more helpful, --Karen Königsdorf Village Names: * German: Königsdorf, Oppowa * Official: Opovo * Hungarian: Opava * Spelling and/or dialect variants:  Location: * Country: Yugoslavia * 40km S of Großbetschkerek * Postal Code: 26264 * Railroad station: Genealogical Records: * Village name in FHL records: Koenigsdorf, Oppowa, Opava * Church records available at FHL: Christenings 1766-1872, Marriages 1766-1872, Deaths 1766-1872 * FHL Microfilm Nr. 1190408, 1271585 On Jun 7, 2010, at 11:18 AM, darkaso@yahoo.com wrote: Hi List, > >Can anyone tell me which Familybook or Parish Opava/Oppowa/Konigsdorf is associated with?  I am completely brick walled with my Seltsam relatives and looking for any infor on a Josef Seltsam and Marx Seltsam.   Marx Seltsams Passport Application says that he was born in Opava in 1881 and I believe that Josef is his father.  I do not know where Joseph is from but his parents names are Johann and Anna Gunther.  Any help would be so greatly appreciated.   > >Thanks > >Dar  

Does anyone know if a copy of the Stefansfeld Familienbuch can be purchased anywhere? I'd love to have a copy! Thanks much, Amy

Hello Danube Swabian Researchers, For you who are researching in Slavonia or Syrmia (part of Croatia) here are some minority population numbers per counties of the 2001 Census. http://www.dzs.hr/Hrv/censuses/Census2001/Popis/H01_02_02/H01_02_02.html See you at Mt. Angel! Rosina www.hrastovac.net

Amy; The Stefansfeld family book by Awender is out of print but has been transfered to a CD by the AVBF. I am tne North American representative of the AVBF and I can arrange to have a copy sent to you. The price is 25 Euro plus postage. It will be sent out from Germany and when it comes will have a note with it instructing you to send me a check for the amount due. Send me your mailing address if you would like to order a copy. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amy Nichols" <anichols@att.net> To: <Banat@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 6:01 AM Subject: [BANAT-L] Stefansfeld Familienbuch - Where to puchase? > Does anyone know if a copy of the Stefansfeld Familienbuch can be > purchased > anywhere? I'd love to have a copy! > > Thanks much, > Amy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Amy, In the Familienbuch Stefansfeld by Hans Awender there is no Harnacker listed. But the names and dates in the listing for Josef Harnak are so close to the ones you've given, it might be the same family: 21.003, 0 HARNAK Josef E: 21.001, 0 H S * 21.01.1853 S oo 1878 S Awender Mariane * 25.01.1858 S E: 33.038,0 A KINDER: Johan * 15.11.1878 S Josef * 11.01.1880 S 21.004,0 H Katharina * 11.06. 1882 S 59.001,0 B Mariane * 01.11.1184 S Barbara * 16.09.1887 S 66.003,0S Margaretha *16.09.1887 S Jakob * 1881 S Nani * 1893 S Susanne * 1896 S Let me know if you need help with how to read the notation. Dolores Jungheim Barber On Jun 7, 2010, at 9:23 PM, Amy Nichols wrote: > Hello All, > > I was wondering if anyone had the Stefansfeld Familienbuch and would > be > willing to look up a couple for me? > > I am looking for the marriage of Josef Harnacker and Maria Avender, > who were > both from Stephansfeld, and any children they may have had while > living in > the town. > > Three of their children (Barbara - born 1887 in Stefansfeld, Jakob - > born > 1890 in Setschanfeld, Anna - born 1892 in Stefansfeld) married in > Setschanfeld, but I have not been able to find any other records for > any > other children. They supposedly had a daughter who married a man > named > Glass, but I have not been able to find any record of this. They > supposedly > immigrated to Canada before WWII. > > Their son, Jakob Harnacker, married Katharina Prunkl in Setschanfeld > and > they had a daughter named Susanne. After Susanne married in 1932 and > immigrated to the US soon after. They had one son, Adam, in 1935. > Susanna > died a few years later in 1945, when Adam was only 10 years old. I > was > talking to him the other day and he said that after his mother died, > his > father forbade him and everyone else from ever speaking of her and > took all > her pictures away. He was able to find one pictures over the years, > but > never knew anything about his mother's family. Anyway it tugged at my > heartstrings and I just thought I'd see if I could find out more > information > on his family for him. > > In any case if anyone would be able to look for me, I would > appreciate it so > much!! > > Thanks much, > Amy Nichols > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

To all on the list: This presentation referred to by Rosina about the expulsion of ethnic Germans after World War II is a must-read for everyone. It is easy to understand. If you have been confused about "who was sent where" and "why," this can clarify those questions, and you will realize how far-reaching, geographically and historically, this horror was. As Rosina suggests, I'll be sure it is included with my family's genealogical information. Carol Leber Dreier In Banat: Leber, Roos, Czenser/Zenszer, Muth/Jagdenteufel, Philipp/Filip --------------------------- > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:27:05 -0700 > From: "Rosina T Schmidt" <rosinats@shaw.ca> > Subject: [BANAT-L] ethnic German expulsion after WWII > To: <Banat@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <35B158462E7D49CD86142AA6765C88CA@odChrisi> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello Donauschwaben, > > Gary B. Cohen has made a presentation to the German Bohemian Heritage > Society at New Ulm Minnesota about the Expulsion after WW2. > > This is also of great importance to us, Danube Swabians, and it might be > a good idea for everyone who is leaving genealogical information to their > family to print this out and attach it to it as historical background. > > The awareness of a right to his/her homeland should develop as part of our > human rights. > > http://www.cas.umn.edu/assets/pdf/GerExpellee.pdf > > See you at Mt. Angel in September! > > Rosina > www.hrastovac.net > > ------------------------------

Hello All, I was wondering if anyone had the Stefansfeld Familienbuch and would be willing to look up a couple for me? I am looking for the marriage of Josef Harnacker and Maria Avender, who were both from Stephansfeld, and any children they may have had while living in the town. Three of their children (Barbara - born 1887 in Stefansfeld, Jakob - born 1890 in Setschanfeld, Anna - born 1892 in Stefansfeld) married in Setschanfeld, but I have not been able to find any other records for any other children. They supposedly had a daughter who married a man named Glass, but I have not been able to find any record of this. They supposedly immigrated to Canada before WWII. Their son, Jakob Harnacker, married Katharina Prunkl in Setschanfeld and they had a daughter named Susanne. After Susanne married in 1932 and immigrated to the US soon after. They had one son, Adam, in 1935. Susanna died a few years later in 1945, when Adam was only 10 years old. I was talking to him the other day and he said that after his mother died, his father forbade him and everyone else from ever speaking of her and took all her pictures away. He was able to find one pictures over the years, but never knew anything about his mother's family. Anyway it tugged at my heartstrings and I just thought I'd see if I could find out more information on his family for him. In any case if anyone would be able to look for me, I would appreciate it so much!! Thanks much, Amy Nichols

Excellent article Rosina. Another recent example of forcing enemies together in one country is Iraq. The British drew a line on a map forcing the Kurds, Sunnis and Shias to live together. Saddam's brutality kept the lid on for a while, but, with him gone, it is clear that they do not want to live together. But we westerners, in our wisdom, continue to try to force them. Enough politics. Glenn Schwartz President, Zichydorf Village Association (http://zichydorfonline.org) Searching: Schwartz, Kleckner, Schönherr in Zichydorf, Banat; Schüssler, Millecker, Lenhardt in Kudritz, Banat; Bardua, Kandel, Heuchert in Kolomea, Galicia; Kuntz, Holzer, Kraft, Wolfe, Folk (Volk) in Kutschurgan, Russia; Macht in Volga, Russia. Email: gschwartz@accesscomm.ca On 5/31/2010 9:28 AM, Rosina T Schmidt wrote: > > More interesting reading: > > http://www.read-all-about-it.org/archive_english/genocide_in_yugoslavia/destruction_ethnic_germans.html > > Rosina > > See you all at Mt. Angel! www.dsheritage.com > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Dar, The following info on Oppowa is from the Village Index on the GenealogyNet web site -- a great resource. It looks like it always had it's own parish, but I do not know if there is a Familienbuch for Koenigsdorf/Oppowa. The LDS did microfilm some of the church records, but the dates are prior to the date you are looking for, so probably won't be much help until you can trace back one more generation. http://www2.genealogy.net/reg/ESE/ds_idx.htm Sorry I can't be more helpful, --Karen Königsdorf Village Names: German: Königsdorf, Oppowa Official: Opovo Hungarian: Opava Spelling and/or dialect variants: Location: Country: Yugoslavia 40km S of Großbetschkerek Postal Code: 26264 Railroad station: Genealogical Records: Village name in FHL records: Koenigsdorf, Oppowa, Opava Church records available at FHL: Christenings 1766-1872, Marriages 1766-1872, Deaths 1766-1872 FHL Microfilm Nr. 1190408, 1271585 On Jun 7, 2010, at 11:18 AM, darkaso@yahoo.com wrote: > Hi List, > > Can anyone tell me which Familybook or Parish Opava/Oppowa/ > Konigsdorf is associated with? I am completely brick walled with my > Seltsam relatives and looking for any infor on a Josef Seltsam and > Marx Seltsam. Marx Seltsams Passport Application says that he was > born in Opava in 1881 and I believe that Josef is his father. I do > not know where Joseph is from but his parents names are Johann and > Anna Gunther. Any help would be so greatly appreciated. > > Thanks > > Dar

Hi List, Can anyone tell me which Familybook or Parish Opava/Oppowa/Konigsdorf is associated with?  I am completely brick walled with my Seltsam relatives and looking for any infor on a Josef Seltsam and Marx Seltsam.   Marx Seltsams Passport Application says that he was born in Opava in 1881 and I believe that Josef is his father.  I do not know where Joseph is from but his parents names are Johann and Anna Gunther.  Any help would be so greatly appreciated.   Thanks Dar 

Did you check with LDS records? I have had good success with my villages Sent from my iPhone On Jun 7, 2010, at 9:02, banat-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Searching for Banat Region Records (Sandra Herrera) > 2. ethnic German expulsion after WWII (Rosina T Schmidt) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 09:41:00 -0700 (PDT) > From: Sandra Herrera <sherrera4@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: [BANAT-L] Searching for Banat Region Records > To: banat@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <280758.28462.qm@web82807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I was wondering if anyone can tell me where I can look for birth/ > marriage/death records for Hungarian villages/towns in the county of > Timis or Temes? I am researching my brick wall my GGrandmother Emma > Schuchetka born 6/12/1893 in Klein Czemla, Hungary. She immigrated > in to the US via Philadelphia, PA in 1912. She met he sister > Rosalie and her brother in law Ferencz Kitzinger. Emma parents were > Joseph Schuchetka and Rosa Sherk. She had a brother names Andras > Szuchetka who lived in Versecz,Hungary. My GGrandfather was Janos > Szucs. He was in the Hungaian Army before leaving and traveling > around Europe then finally immigrating to the US in for the last > time in 1912. I am searching for any information on my GGrandmother > Emma and her family. She apparently came from upper class family, > ran away and became a maid before immigrating to the US. She spoke > high German, as she was German but born in Hungary. I am searching > for her family. Any birth, > marriage or death records of her family members etc. Where can I > look, what books would be of help, where can I buy them or if anyone > has one can they research this for me? Any help would be much > appreciated. > > Thanks > Sandra > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:27:05 -0700 > From: "Rosina T Schmidt" <rosinats@shaw.ca> > Subject: [BANAT-L] ethnic German expulsion after WWII > To: <Banat@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <35B158462E7D49CD86142AA6765C88CA@odChrisi> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Hello Donauschwaben, > > > > Gary B. Cohen has made a presentation to the German Bohemian > Heritage Society at New Ulm Minnesota about the Expulsion after WW2. > > This is also of great importance to us, Danube Swabians, and it > might be a good idea for everyone who is leaving genealogical > information to their family to print this out and attach it to it as > historical background. > > The awareness of a right to his/her homeland should develop as part > of our human rights. > > > http://www.cas.umn.edu/assets/pdf/GerExpellee.pdf > > See you at Mt. Angel in September! > > Rosina > www.hrastovac.net > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BANAT list administrator, send an email to > BANAT-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BANAT mailing list, send an email to BANAT@rootsweb.com > . > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of BANAT Digest, Vol 5, Issue 158 > *************************************

Hello Donauschwaben, Gary B. Cohen has made a presentation to the German Bohemian Heritage Society at New Ulm Minnesota about the Expulsion after WW2. This is also of great importance to us, Danube Swabians, and it might be a good idea for everyone who is leaving genealogical information to their family to print this out and attach it to it as historical background. The awareness of a right to his/her homeland should develop as part of our human rights. http://www.cas.umn.edu/assets/pdf/GerExpellee.pdf See you at Mt. Angel in September! Rosina www.hrastovac.net

I was wondering if anyone can tell me where I can look for birth/marriage/death records for Hungarian villages/towns in the county of Timis or Temes? I am researching my brick wall my GGrandmother Emma Schuchetka born 6/12/1893 in Klein Czemla, Hungary. She immigrated in to the US via Philadelphia, PA in 1912. She met he sister Rosalie and her brother in law Ferencz Kitzinger. Emma parents were Joseph Schuchetka and Rosa Sherk. She had a brother names Andras Szuchetka who lived in Versecz,Hungary. My GGrandfather was Janos Szucs. He was in the Hungaian Army before leaving and traveling around Europe then finally immigrating to the US in for the last time in 1912. I am searching for any information on my GGrandmother Emma and her family. She apparently came from upper class family, ran away and became a maid before immigrating to the US. She spoke high German, as she was German but born in Hungary. I am searching for her family. Any birth, marriage or death records of her family members etc. Where can I look, what books would be of help, where can I buy them or if anyone has one can they research this for me? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks Sandra

Dave: Thank you for the update on the Grundhauser's. Peter Goetz/Magdalena Grundhauser were my grandparents. I wish I could read german so I would know what the gentleman is saying who sent the german message. I read all the emails coming through hoping to see something on my maternal grandmother's heritage. She was a Schmidt married to Mathias Bayer. Don't have any relatives close that have information. Nancy Dorrheim -----Original Message----- From: banat-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:banat-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of banat-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 2:02 AM To: banat@rootsweb.com Subject: BANAT Digest, Vol 5, Issue 156 Today's Topics: 1. Mt. Angel Update (Rosina T Schmidt) 2. GRUNDHAUSER in North America (Dave Dreyer) 3. Re: [Akdff-l] LUX aus Bakowa, Lazarfeld, Jahrmarkt, Heufeld (Dave Dreyer) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 11:29:32 -0700 From: "Rosina T Schmidt" <rosinats@shaw.ca> Subject: [BANAT-L] Mt. Angel Update To: <Banat@rootsweb.com> Cc: "DS-Mt.Angel" <MtAngel@heroldtech.com> Message-ID: <30BAE3D15B22486BA03A6CF2A6818CCD@odChrisi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Hello Mt. Angel Travelers, Your Mt. Angel team is working diligently behind the scenes, and that is the reason there are no steady updates on our upcoming 10th (!!!) DS conference in September 16-19th. Dave Dreyer is working on that Family Book while Henry Fischer hopes to have the last of his Trilogy published by September. Glen Schwartz and Ray Borshowa are on their way home from visiting not only Banat but also Hofbr?uhaus in Munich and we shall hear all about it in Mt. Angel. Karen Preston will gladly accept your book donations: Karen@golden-hills.com Leah Duda is studying all those diverse Strudel fillings and there are still some openings left. Leah has a huge kitchen! Biggest news, though, is that our Webmaster Guru Steve Herold is in the process of moving. From an apartment to a house. From one State to another. Therefore he will be off line for some time, so kindly register now at www.dsheritage.com , while we still have his help if need be. See you all in Mt. Angel! Rosina www.hrastovac.net ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 19:48:17 -0700 From: "Dave Dreyer" <ddreyer@pacbell.net> Subject: [BANAT-L] GRUNDHAUSER in North America To: "Akdff-l" <akdff-l@genealogy.net> Cc: Banat List <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <7148167AD4184483B1C145493E5D6ADC@D99J3Q21> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Reinholdt Pasted below is some data on Grundhausers in North American records. ND = North Dakota MN = Minnesota MO = Missouri MT = Montana WA = Washington Dave Dreyer GRUNDHAUSER Johann, son of Anton GRUNDHAUSER and Katharina FORMANACK To ND 1897 *8 Dec 1860 Bakowa +5 Oct 1946 Dickinson ND 1oo 6 Nov 1883 Bakowa LOH Anna, dau of Johann LOH and Magdalena AMRING *23 Apr 1862 Bakowa +15 Apr 1935 Lefor 1 Johann *4 May 1881 Bakowa oo Susanna LAMPL 2 Karl *21 Dec 1884 Bakowa +13 Jan 1970 3 Elisabeth *14 Jun 1886 Bakowa +18 Nov 1973 St Paul oo 15 Jan 1905 Lefor Johann KRONBERGER 4 Magdalena *26 Apr 1888 Bakowa oo Peter GOETZ 5 Frank *10 Sep 1889 Bakowa oo Apollonia SCHRODER 6 Stefan *10 Oct 1891 Bakowa 7 Anna *22 May 1893 Bakowa +4 Jul 1981 St Paul MN 8 Gertrud *26 Feb 1895 Bakowa +7 Sep 1934 Selfridge ND 2oo 12 Aug 1935 Lefor ND REISINGER Mary, wid of Franz REISINGER GRUNDHAUSER Johann, son of Lambert GRUNDHAUSER and Barbara WEINDORFER HN 120 *20 Apr 1879 Billed, Nach St Louis 1905 oo 14 Sep 1902 Josefsdorf SCHUETZ Katharina, dau of Johann SCHUETZ and Maria KRONBERGER HN 150 *9 Sep 1874 Bogarosch +12 Apr 1941 St Louis 1 Maria *1909 MO GRUNDHAUSER Franz, son of Johann GRUNDHAUSER and Anna LOH. To ND 1897 *11 Sep 1889 Bakowa *1918 oo 9 Jul 1906 Lefor ND SCHRODER Apollonia, dau of Nikolaus SCHRODER and Elisabeth ANTON *22 Oct 1890 Josefsdorf *1918 GRUNDHAUSER Johann, son of Johann GRUNDHAUSER and Anna LOH To ND 1897 *4 May 1881 Bakowa +21 Oct 1970 Glendive MT oo 10 Jun 1901 Glendive MT LAMPL Susanna, dau of Michael LAMPL and Susanna WEINSCHROTT *20 Jul 1879 Bakowa +5 Mar 1956 Glendive MT 1 Frank Anton *29 Jun 1912 Glendive MT +6 Dec 2004 Spokane WA GOETZ Peter, son of Peter GOETZ and Katharina LUI. To ND 1892. *8 Sep 1880 oo 15 Jun 1903 Lefor ND GRUNDHAUSER Magdalena, dau of Johann GRUNDHAUSER and Anna LOH *26 Apr 1888 Bakowa +3 Dec 1966 St Paul MN KRONBERGER Johann, son of Nikolaus KRONBERGER and Anna OCHSENFELD. To ND 1901 *6 Jul 1883 Dolatz +8 Jun 1951 Dickinson ND oo 15 Jan 1905 Lefor ND GRUNDHAUSER Elisabeth, dau of Johann GRUNDHAUSER and Anna LOH *14 Jun 1885 Bakowa +18 Nov 1973 St Paul MN 1 Katharina *24 Nov 1905 Harswell ND 2 Anna *26 Feb 1907 Harswell ND +31 Mar 1991 Sacramento CA 3 Johann *28 Aug 1908 Regent ND 4 Wilhelm *Jun 1911 ND +31 May 1953 ND 5 Pauline *15 Jan 1915 ND 6 Elisabeth *Jul 1917 ND 7 Helen *26 Jun 1919 Stark Co ND +29 Aug 1955 Stutsman Co ND 2oo John SABO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reinholdt Lovasz" <lovaszrm@web.de> To: <akdff-l@genealogy.net> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 11:18 AM Subject: [Akdff-l] Erg?nzung FB Bakowa zu D. u. P. GRUNDHAUSER Herzlichen Dank f?r bisherige Erg?nzungen. Im folgenden m?chte ich meine Eintr?ge mit der Liste Teilen. Vielleicht hat noch jemand Erg?nzungen oder kann sie an die Luxemburger Liste weiterleiten, wenn er da jemand kennt, mit der Bitte um Korrekturen bzw. Erg?nzungen F?r die Fam. GRUNDHAUSER sieht zur Zeit die Lage im FB BAKOWA aus. Ich sende die Mail dann auch an den Arbeitskreis, vielleicht findet jemand etwas n?tzliches oder kann noch weitere Erg?nzungen beisteuern. Lieben Dank und ein erholsames Wochenende. Reinholdt Lovasz Familienblatt f?r: Peter GRUNDHAUSER und Anna PESCH [797] Erstellt am 03.06.2010 von Reinholdt Lovasz mit Gen_Plus aus Mandant: C:\GEN_PLUSWIN\BAKOWA OFB 08.05.2010\ Vater: < 3475> Peter GRUNDHAUSER(Grundhausen) , rk * 1726 "in Provincia Luxenburgensi" in Neunhausen Diekirch Luxemburg. + am 11.11.1785 in Lenauheim TM RO. Quellen: zTOB. I. Ba,, Seiten: 75. [ 797] mit Mutter: < 2961> Anna PESCH(Pesek; Piesch; Peschen) , rk * 1726 in Luxemburg. + am 11.01.1786 in Lenauheim TM RO. Kinder: 1. < 21248> Michael GRUNDHAUSER, rk * 1752 in Neunhausen Diekirch Luxemburg. + am 21.08.1787 in Wetschehausen TM RO. 2. < 21249> Johann Peter GRUNDHAUSER, rk * am 20.03.1753 in Hostert bei Osperen (heute Folchette) Gemeinde Rambrouch. Paten: Johann Peter REDING, Katharina PESCH. (? 08.06.1787 Bakowa - stimmt nicht - kein Eintrag) 3. < 5616> Johann GRUNDHAUSER(Grundhausen) , rk * am 29.06.1755 in Hostert bei Osperen (heute Folchette) Gemeinde Rambrouch. Paten: Johann SCHMITZ, Elisabeth HOLWIC. + am 08.06.1789 HNr.116 in Bakowa. Quellen: zTOB. I. Ba, Seiten: 13. Beruf: Ansiedler in Bakowa. Wohnung: 1789 HNr.116 in Bakowa. Gab es eine weitere Ehe mit Gro? Margaretha? Verbindung:[ 2581] oo 03.05.1785 in Boulaide Luxemburg. {R. Deltgen.}. Mit < 2173> Susanna LANDMEYER(Langermaier) , rk * 1760 in Bavigne Luxemburg. Wohnung: 1791 HNr.116 in Bakowa. 4. < 21250> Friedrich GRUNDHAUSER, rk * am 11.10.1757 in Hostert bei Osperen (heute Folchette) Gemeinde Rambrouch. Paten: Friedrich HOLLWICH, Maria Katharina REDING. 5. < 2183> Dominik GRUNDHAUSER (Grunghauser; Grundhausen) , rk * am 10.12.1759 "natus in Pago Hostert, spectante ad Ecclesiam Ospeten" in Hostert bei Osperen (heute Folchette) Gemeinde Rambrouch. Quellen: zTOB. I. Ba, Seiten: 75 Paten: Domimik CASPAR, Anna LILLIN. + am 28.04.1806 in Bakowa HNr. 15. Quellen: zTOB. I. Ba,. Wohnung: 1793 HNr.15 in Bakowa. Verbindungen:[ 945] oo 07.02.1786 in Lenauheim Banat. Mit < 2184> Maria Franziska MICHEL(Michael) , rk. [ 946] oo 04.02.1788 in Wetschehausen TM RO. Mit < 2186> Agnes MATHIS, rk * 1769. + am 01.02.1811 HNr.15 in Bakowa. Quellen: zTOB. I. Ba, Seite: 88. 6. < 3634> Peter GRUNDHAUSER(Grundhausen) , rk * am 02.06.1761 Neuhausen Diekirch Luxemburg in Osperen (Ospern). Quellen: W-K Seiten: 265/98; In Wien registriert 24.10.1785. Paten: Peter PAULENS, aus Hostert, Barbara REYFFERT, aus Lannen. + am 23.03.1815 HNr.54 in Bakowa. Quellen: zTOB. I. Ba, Seiten: 106. Wohnung: 1799 HNr.54 in Bakowa. Er kann nicht der Sohn des Dominik sein (geb.1786 in Lenauheim), denn dann w?re er bei der Geburt seines Kindes Maria im Jahre 1799 erst 13 Jahre alt gewesen. Ab 1815-1835 sind keine weiteren Grundhauser Verstorbene. Die Familie ist weggezogen (nach Lazerfeld). Verbindung:[ 418] oo 16.05.1786 in Gro?-Jetscha RO. Trauzeugen: Michael GRUNDHAUSER ; Konrad BAITZ (Baicz). Mit < 3800> Angela PAUL(Paulin; Albrecht?) , rk. Wohnung: 1799 HNr.54 in Bakowa. 7. < 21251> Anna GRUNDHAUSER, rk * am 06.02.1763 in Hostert bei Osperen (heute Folchette) Gemeinde Rambrouch. Paten: Anna EISCHEN, Nikolaus SEYDER. -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: CG Junkers <CGJunkers@web.de> Gesendet: 03.06.2010 15:23:22 An: lovaszrm@web.de Betreff: Re: [Akdff-l] Bitte um Unterst?tzung bei Erg?nzung des Familienbuches Bakowa Hallo, Familienbuch Mercydorf: ARS, Albert Wohnort der Familie: Bakova. ?? mit ZIMMER, Elisabeth Kind: 1. Catharina * 18.07.1817 Mercydorf. Paten: Sebastian u.Cath. GALLIAN . Familienbuch Lenauheim: Grundhauser, Dominik * circa 1759 + 28.04.1806 Bakowa oo 09.02.1786 (Einqurtiert in als Grundhauser, 2 Perso, v 12.11785?Ende Okt.86.) Michel, Maria Kind: Peter * 06.11.1786 Grundhauser, Peter * circa 1762 + 20.03.1815 Bakowa oo 16.05.1786 Gro??Jetscha (Klein?Jetscha , G159 Giel Ditmar 2001 Einqurtiert in Len., 1Pers., v 13.04.1786?E Okt 86.) Paulin, Angela Mautsch, Andreas {4576} * 29.07.1734 Bockholz + 01.11.1788 x? N, Gertrud * circa 1733 + 26.12.1787 Bakowa Kinder: 1. Peter (4574) * circa 1765 Hosingen + 14.01.1805 Gro??Scham=Freudenthal 2. Katharina * circa 1772 3. Annamaria Katharina * circa 1775 Hoffentlich gibt es noch viele weitere Hinweise! Herzliche Gr??e G?nter Junkers akdff@genealogy.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- _______________________________________________ Akdff-l mailing list Akdff-l@genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mm/listinfo/akdff-l ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- _______________________________________________ Akdff-l mailing list Akdff-l@genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mm/listinfo/akdff-l ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 21:15:03 -0700 From: "Dave Dreyer" <ddreyer@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [BANAT-L] [Akdff-l] LUX aus Bakowa, Lazarfeld, Jahrmarkt, Heufeld To: "Akdff-l" <akdff-l@genealogy.net> Cc: Banat List <BANAT-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <DA1FE9D38CE74274B3BC3F8E92C8BB1A@D99J3Q21> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Reinholdt; >From the Lazarfeld and Heufeld/Massdorf family books by Kuehn. LUX Heinirch, son of Josef LUX and Katharina MAYER *1797 Bakowa? +14 Oct 1831 Massdorf oo 28 May 1817 St Hubert STUFLE A M, dau of Johann Claud. STUFLE and Kath MENG *13 Feb 1796 Soultour Anna *3 Mar 1810 Lazarfeld A M *6 Nov 1819 Lazarfeld Bernhard *26 Jul 1822 Lazarfeld Susanna *10 Jul 1824 Lazarfeld Adam *18 Aug 1826 Lazarfeld Barbara *19 Dec 1828 Soultour Philipp *14 Aug 1831 Massdorf In Lazarfeld is an Anna Lux who marries a Johann Bernhard(*24 Jan 1790 Massdorf) on 17 Oct 1809 but there is no birth date, birth place or parents given. She seems a bit too young. Dave Dreyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reinholdt Lovasz" <lovaszrm@web.de> To: <akdff-l@genealogy.net> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 2:20 PM Subject: [Akdff-l] LUX aus Bakowa, Lazarfeld, Jahrmarkt, Heufeld > Wo sind Kinder 4 u. 5 (siehe unten) hingezogen? Bitte um Ergnzung. > 4. < 6829> Anna Maria LUX, rk > * am 16.09.1795 HNr.88 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. I. Ba Seiten: 1795/29, > Paten: Anna Maria SCHMITT; Lorenz HUTH. > > 5. < 7003> Heinrich LUX, rk > * am 05.07.1797 HNr.144 in Bakowa. Paten: Heinrich SCHMIDT; Anna > (Maria) GOLDNER. > Danke, > Reinholdt Lovasz > Familienblatt fr: Josef LUX und Katharina WEBER [36] > Erstellt am 03.06.2010 von Reinholdt Lovasz mit Gen_Plus aus Mandant: > C:\GEN_PLUSWIN\BAKOWA OFB 08.05.2010\ > Vater: > < 111> Josef LUX, rk > * am 29.01.1761 in Bebelsheim Lothringen. > + am 21.01.1804 in Lazarfeld. > Pate: am 14.12.1789 bei Josef LFFLER > Pate: am 19.08.1790 bei Katharina HUTH > Pate: am 03.08.1793 bei Josef HUTH > Pate: am 13.12.1795 bei Josef SCHMIDT > Pate: am 17.03.1797 bei Josef SCHMIDT > Pate: am 07.06.1798 bei Maria Anna HUTH > Pate: am 28.04.1800 bei Katharina SINGER > Trauzeuge am 26.11.1793 bei der Kirchl. Heir. von Balthasar VORHERR > und Susanna LANDMEYER > Trauzeuge am 04.11.1794 bei der Kirchl. Heir. von Franz SCHMIDT > (SCHMITH) und Anna NEUBAUER > Trauzeuge am 29.05.1798 bei der Kirchl. Heir. von Nikolaus ZENGER und > Margaretha BUCHMLLER > Wohnung: 1787 HNr.88 in Bakowa. > Eltern: > < 21455> Johann LUX, rk > * am 13.10.1716 in Reinheim. > + am 12.03.1779 (Qu: KB St. Hubert) in Heufeld. > oo [ 7176] 05.02.1743 in Bebelsheim mit > < 21456> Katharina LUX > * am 07.08.1720 in Bebelsheim Lothringen. > + am 28.11.1781 in Heufeld. > [ 36] > mit > Mutter: > < 112> Katharina WEBER(Vever) , rk > * 1764. > + am 05.04.1825 +61 Jahre alt in Lazarfeld. > Pate: am 16.10.1793 bei Katharina VORHERR > Pate: am 27.12.1793 bei Johann SCHMIDT > Pate: am 01.12.1795 bei Mathias HUTH > Pate: am 13.12.1795 bei Josef SCHMIDT > Pate: am 07.03.1797 bei Katharina BURGER > Pate: am 17.03.1797 bei Josef SCHMIDT > Pate: am 28.04.1800 bei Katharina SINGER > Wohnung: 1787 HNr.88 in Bakowa. > Kinder: > 1. < 110> Maria (Anna) LUX, rk > * am 12.11.1787 HNr.88 in Bakowa. Paten: Heinrich SCHMIDT; (Anna) Maria > N.N. > + am 24.01.1788 HNr.88 in Bakowa. > > 2. < 294> Anna Maria LUX, rk > * am 24.11.1789 HNr.88 in Bakowa. Paten: Christian STUMPILICH; > Margaretha RECHBERGER. > + am 02.01.1790 HNr.88 in Bakowa. > > 3. < 2551> Katharina LUX, rk > * am 06.04.1793 HNr.88 in Bakowa. > ~ am 06.04.1793 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. I. Ba Seiten: 22, Paten: > Katharina PERSCHNER; Johann Adam LFFLER. > + am 03.09.1794 HNr.88 in Bakowa. Quellen: zTOB. I. Ba, Seiten: 32. > > 4. < 6829> Anna Maria LUX, rk > * am 16.09.1795 HNr.88 in Bakowa. Quellen: TB. I. Ba Seiten: 1795/29, > Paten: Anna Maria SCHMITT; Lorenz HUTH. > > 5. < 7003> Heinrich LUX, rk > * am 05.07.1797 HNr.144 in Bakowa. Paten: Heinrich SCHMIDT; Anna > (Maria) GOLDNER. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- _______________________________________________ Akdff-l mailing list Akdff-l@genealogy.net http://list.genealogy.net/mm/listinfo/akdff-l ------------------------------ To contact the BANAT list administrator, send an email to BANAT-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the BANAT mailing list, send an email to BANAT@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of BANAT Digest, Vol 5, Issue 156 *************************************