This is a very interesting article from the Spiegel on Ptolemis maps of Europe now decoded. - Rosina http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,720513,00.html

To our Canadian Cousins HAPPY THANKSGIVING! Rosina

Thanks to those who've helped translate the photo postcards I posted of my unidentified DS family members. There are still a few to translate, if I could impose further. Follow the link below and scroll down to see the writing. I'm especially interested in the one written in red ink, but any of them may have some clues that would help us ID the people in the photos. Click to enlarge the scan, and you can type the translation in the comments box under the image. http://picasaweb.google.com/marceschulz/Parison# Thanks in advance. Marce in Pittsburgh Schuetz, Kratochwill, Parison, Becker

I would be very grateful if someone could tell me the name of the Catholic Church in Lovrin. Many years ago, I saw a site listing all the villages and the church name for each one. If I remember correctly, the list also showed changes of names for some of the churches. I am particularly interested to know what the Lovrin church was named in the years between l900 to 1910. Many thanks! Anne in Phila.

Would anybody know when the Franzfeld Family book will be available and how to order it? Thanks, John Walter

This is a question to Dave Dreyer Page 153 The Banaters, as well as other peasant populations wanted relief from serfdom and forced labor to the nobility. It was not simple for Banaters to achieve a unified position. They could not forget that it was Maria Theresia and her son who had sold Banat villages to private landlords, resulting in the loss of their privileges.   >From reading various Banater town histories, I was aware that there were Grunds Herren or Herrschaften who controlled and presented the villages in the Hungarian Assembly. I did not know that Maria Theresia and her son (I assume Josef II) were responsible for this. Would you know how this was done. Also was this the case for Batschka and what about the Militaer Grenze.   In Heufeld people received the deed to their property in 1777 and the Banat was handed to Hungary in 1779 by Maria Theresia.   I was born in Ruskodorf which was a Herrschafts Gut before World War I and my ancestors came to Ruskodorf from Massdorf, Heufeld, St Hubert, Charleville and I know the local history oft his area.    I think your more knowledgeable about Banater History then anybody here or in Europe and I congratulate you. John Walter

It seems to mean: "Names of the caretakers of the church from 1722 until now" Dolores Jungheim Barber On Oct 4, 2010, at 8:23 PM, Rosina T Schmidt wrote: > Az egyházgondnokok nevei 1722 ik étol kezdve mostanig

Hello Danube Swabian Researchers, Would a kind soul please translate this heading: Az egyházgondnokok nevei 1722 ik étol kezdve mostanig Its Hungarian. Many thanks, Rosina www.hrastovac.net

The letter below is the translation by Aida Kraus, a contributor to the German Bohemian Heritage Society of a German letter written from Galizia in 1784 and published in Werner Hacker's book: "Auswanderungen aus dem Rheinland im 18. Jahrhundert" ISBN 3-8062-0487-X which she acquired through an Inter LIbrary Loan. - Rosina This is a letter of a settler in "Galizia" now Poland. His name is Chr. Schneickert and he writes this from German Kamin on March 18, 1784. Signed by his own hand. From the archives at Speyer C 14 "As promised , I shall report back to His most Honorable about the factual condition here in Galizien and Polen. This land has extremely fertile soil and grows wheat, corn, rye, oat, millet, hemp, flax, peas, and provides planted as well as wild fruit, Wiswachs? (I dont know what this is), has meadow water and wood to excess, and the grain is not damaged by wild animals. We received 40 Morgen arable land, one pair of oxen, 2 cows, 1 cart, plow, sled, harrow, (I don’t know what a Strohstuhl is) with a measure, (maybe a scale of sorts) , sythes, sharpener, a hay and dung fork, 1 ax, several hoes, shovel, dung hoes have been given to us as soon as we arrived at Poland. Our kk Majesty provides for us on a monthly basis with money and edibles. We receive 1 Forint for the man, 30 Kreutzer for the wife, 30 Kreuzer per child. We receive a quarter fruit (probably root vegetables) which would cost 2/1 Silver Rhenish coin until we can establish our own harvest of food and living support. Peter Graf, a Brick Master living here in the village has been elected by the village people and nobility as representative and judge (mayor) and we would like to report to you that he is a man of reliability. But what we think is the most noble gesture towards us, that is that we can worship in our own Augsburgisch Evangelical Lutheran faith quite in the open, without anyone refusing this Religion, be it Catholic or Polish. Nobody can put any disturbance in our way. We find that the "Polacks" are very slovenly, superstitious, very easy in thievery, and enamored of beerdrinking and distilled spirits, it is a pity that they populate such a very good land. We report to his Most Honorable Sir that our brother Matthäus Schneider, the mentally deficient, has died the 5th of March and was buried on the 7th in Christian earth in this year 1784. He leaves an inheritance to us, his rightful heirs, and for this purpose I am enclosing his certificate of death. Therefore, I, Christoph Schneickert am his heir and respectfully request that the 40 Florin "mother money" (his inheritance share from his mother, obviously) and 'Kelter Geld" (Weinpress fee in the Rheinland) be issued to me inclusive interests and any other provisions due me until next Martini. We are looking forward in receiving your esteemed reply and appropriate handling of the above mentioned money and I am signing as you most loyal and devoted T. Christof Schneichert"

Hello Family Researchers, The German-Immigrants pages might be helpful to you besides Dave Dreyer's passengers list: www.german-immigrants.com Rosina www.hrastovac.net

Mrs. Lannert, Theoretically, this first volume of the Guttenbrunn Familienbuch was re-published recently, just after the second volume covering later years was published. Try contacting Erwin Schaffer at _bermes5@t-online.de_ (mailto:bermes5@t-online.de) to see if he can give you an update. Good luck, Bill Knuttel In a message dated 10/1/2010 8:20:13 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Banatstor@webtv.net writes: Does anyone own or have access to a copy of the Guttenbrunn Family Book, volume 1, by Anton Neff, covering the years up to 1852? The AKDFF reportedly has a copy, but they are apparently short of volunteers and have not been able to acknowledge my request for information. Any suggestions as to an expeditious means of obtaining information from this volume, which is out of print, will be much appreciated. Thank you, Mrs. Lannert ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone own or have access to a copy of the Guttenbrunn Family Book, volume 1, by Anton Neff, covering the years up to 1852? The AKDFF reportedly has a copy, but they are apparently short of volunteers and have not been able to acknowledge my request for information. Any suggestions as to an expeditious means of obtaining information from this volume, which is out of print, will be much appreciated. Thank you, Mrs. Lannert

Vienna, October 1st, 2010 New at GenTeam (also available in English): 1 20.742 new Obituaries in the “Neuen Freien Presse”, Vienna from the years 1901-1918 2 7.308 records of the Civil marriages in Vienna 1870-1908 3 214.906 new records of Vital Statistics (church records) from Lower Austria, Upper Austria and Moravia 4 start with the Josef-Heider-Indices of Upper Austria 5 new Meta-search of databases at GenTeam 1 20.742 new obituaries in the „Neuen Freuen Presse“, Vienna between 1901-1918: An index of all obituaries appeared in the “Neuen Freien Presse” (new Free Press”), Vienna, between 1864 and 1918, is now available as an own database at www.GenTeam.at (site also available in English language!). You can search for surnames, given names, maiden names and year. There is a link which directs you to the obituary in the Newspaper, which can be viewed free via Internet (site by ONB – Oesterreichische National Bibliothek/Austrian National Library). You also may find obituaries of people not only lived in Vienna but also in the Crown lands. Mostly, they contain also important genealogical information of other family members. I want to thank Mrs. Traude Triebel and Mr. Georg Gaugusch for this extensive and important database, which is now to find at GenTeam free of any charge. 2 7.308 records of Civil marriages Vienna 1870-1908 Since 1870, the civil marriage was possible because of the Reichsgesetzblatt number 49 dated May 25th, 1868 and was valid till August 1st, 1938. Due to the fact, that § 64 of the AGBG 1811 was still active, a Christian part had first to leave the church, whereas a possible Jewish part only needed a marriage refusal of the Rabbi. These marriages have been recorded in own Vital Statistics; the duplicates are stored in the Viennese City Archives. Univ. Doz. Dr. Anna Lea Staudacher of the Austrian Acadamy of Sciences (ÖAW) has now stored all marriages between 1870 and 1908 (books 1-5). My special thanks go to the Heraldic and Genealogical Society “Adler”, Vienna. Further information about this project can be found in the journals of the “Adler” between 2007 and 2010. 3 214.906 new records of Vital Statistics (Church records) in Lower Austria, Upper Austria, and Moravia. new records from Lower Austria: Altenmarkt im Waldviertel, Aschbach, Echsenbach, Eibenstein, Euratsfeld, Gobelsburg, Heiligeneich, Laimbach, Langenlois, Mittergrabern, Münichreith, Neulengbach, Rohrau, Schweiggers, Strögen, Wieselburg, Windigsteig, Ysper, Zwentendorf from Upper Austria: Liebenau from Moravia: Proßmeritz between 1625 and 1910 can be used immediately. You can find a complete list of all parishes via the help-botton at Indices at www.GenTeam.at I want to thank Mrs. Silvia Kittenberger, Miss Susanne Nittmann, Mrs. Gabi Rirsch, Mrs. Martina Schulz, Mrs. Mireille Trauner, Mrs. Dr. Gabriele Watzer, Mr. Mag. Gottfried Böck, Mr. Mag. Fritz Eichler, Pfr. 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GenTeam is an organization of genealogists or historians who produce databases on their own or as a part of a group, and who offer these databases to all researcher without any fee. GenTeam is a non-commercial organization! The geographical centre of the databases is the present-day Austria and its neighbouring lands. The use of the databases is without any fee; only a simple registration is required. The collection currently contains about 2 million records and will be continually updated. Overview: - Index of Roman Catholic marriages of Vienna and parishes around between 1542 and 1860 - Owners of houses in Lower Austria in 1817 - Gazetteer of Czech, Austrian and Slovenian Republic (with South Tyrol) - Death Cards of soldiers from both World Wars - Index of Vital Statistics and seigniorial records - Index of Jewish records - Directory of all mills and mill-owner in whole Austria (Cisleithanien) in 1876 - index of Wurzbach - Obituaries of the Neuen Freien Presse, Wien - Obituaries of the Pester Lloyd, Budapest If you have any questions, please, don´t hesitate to contact me at kontakt@GenTeam.at. Please, send this information to any other mailing-list or archives. Thank you! With kind regards, Felix Gundacker professional genealogist Pantzergasse 30/8 A-1190 WIEN Tel = 0043 676 40 11 059 email: kontakt@GenTeam.at www.genteam.at www.ihff.at www.felixgundacker.at

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Liebe Mitstreiter, Unter folgendem Link findet sich der Eintrag: Huhn Michael, aus Lovrin, B.R., und Barbara Spang, aus Gross-Kikinda, B.J., 1862 Elm St; Cincinnati 10, Ohio. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~banatdata/DUK/1947/DUK-1947-191.gif Was bedeuten die Kürzel hinter den Ortsnamen? Banat/Rumänien und Banat/Jugoslawien? Kann vielleicht jemand dazu nähere Angaben machen, insbesondere zu Barbara Spang? Bin dankbar für jeden Hinweis. Grüße aus der Pfalz Ewald (Spang)

Hello to all Danube Swabian, I wonder if anyone could have as ancestor Paul Anton (von) SCHMIDT born at Konak (or Kanak) actual Serbia on february 9th 1885. He was married in second wed. to Hermine Adam, born on september 4th 1990 in Schag (Roumania). Maybe they had children and one of them could answer and give news. Thank you and good day to you all Stephane vo SCHMIDT

Greetings Banat List Members, Another favor if you please? Would someone who has the Pardan FB please send me a copy of any and all "Remillong" families listed there? Thank you for your time. For reference, my ancestors include Remillong, Bruck, Herberholz, Parison, Lefor, Mueller, Stumpf and Madler. Sincerely, Jerry Remillong

There are MICHELS and THOME in Hatzfeld and Deutsch Zerne. Fran Matkovich ----- Original Message ----- From: pmodreski@aol.com To: Banat@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:04 PM Subject: [BANAT-L] a question - locations of family origin of people on theBanat listserv? Hi, all, and perhaps I will think in terms of directing this message particularly to Rosina, who seems to be somewhat the "organizer" of both this listserv and of the Mt. Angel conference about which we've read so much, As a relatively new person on this listserv (less than a year), I have been curious as to whether anyone has ever attempted to compile any sort of list or map showing just where within the Banat region, the family origins of the members of this listserv, or the attendees at one or more of the past Mt. Angel conferences, are from. Although this listserv has made me aware of one or more good online maps in which Banat towns can be located, as well as the passenger lists of ships on which my family traveled, when I read posts from someone whose family was from a particular town I usually cannot relate to within the whole region this might be, unless I were to look up the specific town name and locate it on a map. I've wondered if some areas within the Banat have more representation that others among the people on this listserv--as to specific towns, or even just as to regions within the parts of the Banat which are now Romania, Hungary, Serbia, etc. Of course, I'm especially interested in finding out whether there are people on the listserv who are from the particular area from which my (mother's side) family originated; the village of Schag, just south of Temeschwar/Timisoara/Temeschburg; the family names are Michl/Michel, Simon, and Toma/Thoma, and they emigrated to the eastern U.S. (Philadelphia a! nd NJ area) and/or Canada in 1906-1908. A map of where people's families were from seems like the sort of thing that might have been done at one of the Mt. Angel conferences--perhaps just by having people stick pins in a map? (Or, perhaps, not!) I would appreciate hearing if anyone is aware of any map or listing of the sort I'm thinking of; and if not, perhaps there might be some interest in and ready way of compiling such a thing? Sincerely, Pete Modreski (mother's name, Michl), Wheat Ridge, CO, pmodreski@aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BANAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello List, I am trying to find the names of my Great Grandfather Mathias Burg's parents. My Great Grandfather was born 1877 in Alsace Lorraine. He Lived in Karolyflava Hungary till 1905 when he went to Chicago Illinois. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank You Kindly Val

Well finally. The war ends this Sunday. First World War that is, as THE GLOBE AND MAIL reports today. WWI officially ends 92 years after the guns fell silent and Germany pays off the last chunk of reparations imposed by the Allies. The final payment of $97 million will write off the crippling debt for that war, which laid the foundation for WWII. which in turn decimated us Danube Swabians as people. Germany was forced to pay the reparations at the Treaty of Versailles in 1919 as compensation to the war-ravaged nations of Belgium and France, as well as pay to the Allies some of the cost of waging what was then the bloodiest conflict in history. It left nearly 10 million soldiers dead. Rosina www.hrastovac.net