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To List and Anita, I finally figured out to my satisfaction whom the parents of my ancestor Mathias Jung (1818 to 1870) of Offsenitza were. They were Nicholaus Jung (c.1779 to 1831) and Ursula Lohr (1790 to 1831) who both died at Offsenitza due to the chorea plague. (Ursula Lohr was born in  1790 at Zichydorf.) My reasoning is as follows. 1.    Mathias Jung died 8 June 1870 at Offsenitza at the age of 52 years, making him both in 1818. His place of origin/birth was stated to be Offsenitza. The only possible father he would have had who was in Offsenitza in 1818 was Nicholaus Jung or Mathias Jung (c.1769/1772 to 1859). 2.    I think that Mathias was a frateral twin brother to Katharina Jung, daughter of Nicholaus and Ursula, both were baptised at Offsenitza on Friday 2 January 1818, but the baptism entry was not written correctly. The priest of his clerk wrote in heavy ink the date of the baptism and only the name Catherina in haste it looks like. Later the rest of the entry was completed in lighter ink (a different pen nib) without mentioning Mathias. The next day (3 January  1818) a Mathias Felsich (? the spelling of the surname) was baptised and I think the recorder may have thought only one boy named Mathias was baptised in that period, omitting Mathias Jung. 3.    Peter Jung (1813 to 1872), older son of Nicholaus and Ursula Jung, married in May of 1831, Margaretha Kilcher (1813 to 1831), daughter of Sebastian Kilcher and his wife Elisabeth Aschenbrenner of Offsenitza. Margaretha and both her parents also died in Offsenitza in October of 1831 of the plague. My Mathias married a younger daughter of Sebastian and Elisabeth Kilcher, Anna (1824 to 1899) in February of 1841 at Offsenitza. So Mathias loosing a sister and his parents to chorea in 1831 and Anna loosing a sister and her parents in the same event would have them experiencing a common disaster which would have made it a factor leading to their marriage. 4.    The Jungs who settled in the Parry area of Saskatchewan (including Susanna Jung Krumenaker of McTaggart, SK), descendants of Mathias Jung (c.1769/1772 to 1859) and my family of Jungs who settled at Yellow Grass/Lang, SK (Sebastian Jung [1860 to 1938], son of Mathias [1818 to 1870]), always maintained they were related. It is possible that Nicholaus Jung was a younger brother of Mathias and that both brothers settled at Offsenitza in about 1807. Luckly, Mathias in his 80s married for a fourth time on 8 February 1859 at Offsenitza some six months before he died on 25 August 1859. On this marriage entry it states his father was Jacob Jung and his mother was Marie Agnetis (Agnes) and that Mathias' place of origin was Alsatia (Alsace). So to find his baptism record in Alsace if possible and maybe see if he had an younger brother named Nicholaus. Darrel Hockley Regina, SK, Canada

Thanks Tom! Nope, I just needed confirmation on one child/parent relationship. Thanks! Scott

Hi Scott, Entry 2024 in the book shows the following: LETANG, Jakob * 19.08.1775 SHu 41 oo 31,05.1796 (Tz. Stefan Letan, Nikol. Obertding LEISLER, Magdalena *? ledig, aus Ostern 1. Katharine * 16.09.1797 Cha 45 + 1.2.1801 Cha 45 2. Stephan * 14.11.1798 Cha 45 3. Elisabeth * 1.9.1799 +28.1.1801 Cha 44 4. Peter * 21.3.1801 Cha 45 5. Barbara * 15.9.1802 Cha 45 oo Nik Siller 6. Christoph * 26.12.1803 Cha 45 + 16.7.1927 Cha 45 7. Quirin *30.3.1805 Cha 45 8. Nikolaus *6.7.1807 Cha 45 +10.9.1827 Cha 45 9. Jakob * 26.1.1809 10. Barbara *28.10.1810 Cha 45 +17.2.1816 Cha 45 11. Carolina *26.11.1812 Cha 45 +9.2.1816 Cha 45 12. Elisabeth *6.1.1815 oo Nikol. Lefor 13. Anna Maria *10.8.1816 Cha 45 1. oo Jos. Metzger 2. oo Anton Kadi 14. Gerhard *9.4.1818 Cha 45 There is references to additional info on the ones without death dates on other pages. Do you have specific info beyond this needed now? Good luck! Tom Schneider On May 29, 2014, at 11:57 AM, Scott Aaron <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi List, > > If anyone happens to have the Charleville-St. Hubert-Seultour book handy, would you mind doing a quick lookup for the children of Jacob Letang (b: 1775) and Magdalena Leisler...I have the book, but can't seem to find it after a recent move. I don't need a lot of detail, maybe just the childrens names/birth-years? Thanks a million. > > Scott > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear friends, thank you all for your concern! Rosina is right - Vojvodina is not (or minimally) affected and the worst damage was done in western and central Serbia where enormous rainfalls caused by unusually huge and persistent cyclone filled up tributaries of larger rivers. The same applies for some parts of Croatia along Sava river banks and the substantial damage was done in parts of Bosnia near river Bosnia and Drina (Drina is a natural border between Serbia and Bosnia). Death toll in Serbia is about 40. I am not sure about Bosnia and Croatia. Those are irreversible losses, of course, but the damage done to the hundreds of thousands of people are evenly horrible - so many people lost complete properties. Waters were merciless and fast. Damage to the economies is immense. But life goes on. Best regards, Stasa On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Rosina <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hello Charlie, > > My thoughts and prayers are also with all those people in the Balkans > whose homes were under water. Vojvodina ( that is all that part north of > Sava-Danube Rivers in Serbia) is not having much of a problems as per the > reports I received from there, just the opposite. They had no snow cover > this past winter, so all that rain was most welcome. > > The problem was and is around the Sava River and south of it. In Croatia, > Bosnia and Serbia. Financial help is urgently needed. > > Here is more comment on the floods in the Balkans: > > http://www.giveliveexplore.com/2014/05/20/importance-helping-serbia-right-now/ > > See you in Mt. Angel come September, > > Rosina T. Schmidt > www.hrastovac.net > > > On 05292014AD--, at 9:44 00000AM, Charlie Tiller wrote: > > > When it becomes safe and convenient, it would be welcome to hear from > any of our list members living in the former Banat-Batschka how things are > going in the aftermath of the historic flooding a few weeks ago. I know > Stasa lives on the hillside in Novi Sad, but life was surely affected even > on high ground - and there is not a lot of high ground in the Zrenjanin. I > suppose we will eventually hear of some damage to historical structures and > records which will be saddening. Of course, right now the focus will and > should be on the people who call the land home. Our thoughts and prayers > are with them as they mourn, clean up, rebuild, and live on. > > > > Best regards, > > Charlie Tiller > > St. Paul, MN, USA > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Stasa Cvetkovic* *http://www.synergia.rs/ <http://www.synergia.rs/>* *Tel/fax: +381 21 553 265* *Mobile: +381 62 598 517* *Novi Sad, Serbia* *Visit our webpage <http://www.synergia.rs/>*

When it becomes safe and convenient, it would be welcome to hear from any of our list members living in the former Banat-Batschka how things are going in the aftermath of the historic flooding a few weeks ago. I know Stasa lives on the hillside in Novi Sad, but life was surely affected even on high ground - and there is not a lot of high ground in the Zrenjanin. I suppose we will eventually hear of some damage to historical structures and records which will be saddening. Of course, right now the focus will and should be on the people who call the land home. Our thoughts and prayers are with them as they mourn, clean up, rebuild, and live on. Best regards, Charlie Tiller St. Paul, MN, USA

Hello Charlie, My thoughts and prayers are also with all those people in the Balkans whose homes were under water. Vojvodina ( that is all that part north of Sava-Danube Rivers in Serbia) is not having much of a problems as per the reports I received from there, just the opposite. They had no snow cover this past winter, so all that rain was most welcome. The problem was and is around the Sava River and south of it. In Croatia, Bosnia and Serbia. Financial help is urgently needed. Here is more comment on the floods in the Balkans: http://www.giveliveexplore.com/2014/05/20/importance-helping-serbia-right-now/ See you in Mt. Angel come September, Rosina T. Schmidt www.hrastovac.net On 05292014AD--, at 9:44 00000AM, Charlie Tiller wrote: > When it becomes safe and convenient, it would be welcome to hear from any of our list members living in the former Banat-Batschka how things are going in the aftermath of the historic flooding a few weeks ago. I know Stasa lives on the hillside in Novi Sad, but life was surely affected even on high ground - and there is not a lot of high ground in the Zrenjanin. I suppose we will eventually hear of some damage to historical structures and records which will be saddening. Of course, right now the focus will and should be on the people who call the land home. Our thoughts and prayers are with them as they mourn, clean up, rebuild, and live on. > > Best regards, > Charlie Tiller > St. Paul, MN, USA > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List,  If anyone happens to have the Charleville-St. Hubert-Seultour book handy, would you mind doing a quick lookup for the children of Jacob Letang (b: 1775) and Magdalena Leisler...I have the book, but can't seem to find it after a recent move. I don't need a lot of detail, maybe just the childrens names/birth-years? Thanks a million. Scott

Hello list, I was revisiting some old emails and one of them made me think to ask here... Have the birth or baptism records for Charleville that cover the period of about 1848 to 1852 ever materialized? I remember trying to find these records at one point with no luck, but that was a long time ago. Wonder if there has been any luck on that front since then? Thanks! Scott

I am OK Mona, thanks for your concern! Even the flooding goes around me. :) On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 5:39 AM, Mona Irwin <[email protected]> wrote: > Has anybody heard from Stasa lately? I've heard there's been really bad > flooding in Serbia (among other places). > > Mona > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Stasa Cvetkovic* *http://www.synergia.rs/ <http://www.synergia.rs/>* *Tel/fax: +381 21 553 265* *Mobile: +381 62 598 517* *Novi Sad, Serbia* *Visit our webpage <http://www.synergia.rs/>*

Has anybody heard from Stasa lately? I've heard there's been really bad flooding in Serbia (among other places). Mona

The new Warjasch book by Gunhild Burger, Anni Lorenz und Dietmar Giel arrived in my mailbox yesterday. Eileen Lund-Johnson Minnesota, USA

In a message dated 5/16/2014 9:33:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: A Warjasch family book by Peter Tarnai is now available on line at http://www.online-ofb.de/varjas/ Dave Dreyer ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

www.GenTeam.eu - Approximately 235.000 additional records online Vienna, May 17, 2014 New at GenTeam: 1. New Database: Citizens rolls of the Slovak city Bratislava/Preßburg 2. Medical database, Vienna: additional 11,750 new entries of the Oral Exam Volumes as of 1751 3. Diocese Passau, Germany: Corrections and additional 60,000 new entries 4. Index of Catholic Baptisms in Vienna: approximately 85,000 new entries 5. Parish Register Indices from Lower Austria, Upper Austria, and Moravia: approximately 70,500 new data sets Dear Colleagues, On our own account: With the new online databases, the 24,500 currently registered users have as of today about 10.6 million entries at their disposal. At this point, I would like to say a big thank you to all those individuals who have furnished GenTeam in the last 4 years with vital information, all those who work on long-term projects, but also those who work behind the scenes to ensure that GenTeam functions properly and continues to expand! GenTeam is a European platform, through which historians and genealogist who work independently or as a team on databases can furnish this data free of charge to all researchers. All data at GenTeam is available free of charge, since GenTeam is a nonprofit organization, and there is no membership fee. Other developments which were created parallel to GenTeam are a mailing list www.GenList.at with more than 1,500 members as well as a website for a genealogical link collection found under www.GenLink.at. Facebook (usually in German, only): Mrs. Mireille Trauner maintains our GenTeam Website found under www.facebook.com/GenTeam.Die.genealogische.Datenbank. There you will find all past updates. You are also cordially invited to an exchange of information in the field of genealogy in our newly established Facebook Page AiOeU-Ahnenforschung in Austria-Hungary: https://www.facebook.com/Ahnenforschung.in.Oesterreich.Ungarn Now to the new update: 1. New Database: Citizen’s Rolls of the City of Bratislava/formerly Pressburg, Slovak Republic Most books of the Citizen Rolls between 1630 and 1871 are still preserved. Book 1 (1630-1683), Book 4 (1754-1791) and Book 6 (1819-1871) were posted online at GenTeam; they provide besides the Last Name and First Name in part also profession, city of origin, confession and age. The books point straight from the outset that many Protestant exiles went from Lower Austria to Bratislava and remained there, and that they maintained a continuous close association with Protestant churches in Bratislava throughout the Monarchy as well as the close connection to the Catholic parishes in the Austrian part of the Monarchy. By kind permission of the City Archives of Bratislava: www.miny.sk 2. Medical Database: additional 11,750 new entries of the Rigorosen as of 1751 The Medical Database, which was kindly provided by Horst Dolezal, contains basic data from the rectory’s office oral examinations and promotional protocols of the medical faculty in Vienna from the years 1818 – 1938, and are complete with excerpts of the Study Catalogues of only Jewish students between the years 1862-1938, in total there are approximately 70,000 data sets. New: Another meaningful stock from the University Archive are the volumes of Oral Exams of the Dean’s office for surgeons, pharmacists, midwives, in nine volumes (Sign.Med 9.1 to Med 9.9) comprising the years 1751 – 1880. Four of these volumes are now completely indexed including basic data. They are: Med 9.1 Surgeons 1751 – 1822 Med 9.2 Surgeons 1822 – 1890 Med 9.3 Pharmacists 1751 -854 Med 9.4 Medical Doctors 1752 – 1821 3. Diocese Passau, Germany: Corrections for the and approximately 60,000 new entries The approximately 2,16 million parish registers from the Diocese Passau, Germany, contain about 440,000 marriages (now completed), approximately 1,1 million are baptisms and the rest are cases of deaths. You will find in this database the parish, volume, page number, Last Name, First Name, date/year, many times but not always the profession, and a residence address and city. The actual church book of the Diocese you will find online under www.matricula.online.eu. You will find a listing of parishes along with time tables under "Help/Information". The Archive of the Diocese Paussau and GenTeam give thanks for the imparted corrections and naturally also for the new data sets! 4. Baptismal Index for Vienna between 1585 and 1900 Approximately 85,000 new Data Sets, in total more than 550,000 Approximately 85,000 entries were added from the parishes Döbling, St. Josef Margarethen, Mariahilf, St. Josef in Vienna 2nd district, Rennweg, Wieden (Paulaner), St. Marx, and the Lower Austrian birthing center (Niederösterreichische Landesgebäranstalt Alservorstadt). At this point, I would like to extend my gratitude to Martina Ecker, Helga Hörmann, Marta Melchart, Andrea Reiter, Ernst Schroth, Gerda Smodej, Judith Starke, Walter Thurner, as well as to all who already work on additional indices which will be put online in the near future. In the 19th century approximately 3,5 million people from all the countries of the Habsburg Monarchy (and beyond) moved to Vienna. In 1910 Vienna’s population was approximately 2.1 million. Vienna was then the sixth largest city in the world. Almost all families in the monarchy had family connections to the city of Vienna. Unfortunately, to date there still is no central birth registry for Vienna besides the Jewish Birth Registry already published on www.GenTeam.eu I invite you all to help with this fascinating project, to create a complete general index of all baptisms. No travel or visits to parish offices are required; the indices can be furnished in digital form or they can be found partially on www.matricula-online.eu. Since there are only a few typed indices, fewer beautifully hand-written and some not so beautiful hand-written indices available, I am sure, interested collaborators will find some part to help. 5. Parish Indices -- new entries Approximately 70,000 entries from Catholic parish registers were added from Lower Austria, Upper Austria and Moravia. You will find the parishes with individual time tables at GenTeam under Hilfe (Help ). Lower Austria: Etzen, Heidenreichstein, Hohenruppersdorf, Jahrings, Kaumberg, Retz, Texing, Waldenstein, Wieselburg, and Wurmbrand. Upper Austria: Altheim, Bad Leonfelden Moravia: Hanusovice/formerly Hannsdorf At this point I would like to give many thanks to Dr. Ingeborg Heider, Rudolf Hütthaler, Konny Pommer, Karin Scharrer, Martina Schulz, Franz Spevacek, Christoph Tietz, Clemens Weidmann and Theodora Winkler. With the current updates, more than 2.6 million entries got online in 2014 at www.GenTeam.eu. We would be more than happy if you too would like to play a part with GenTeam by creating a database or furnishing an already completed database. However, should you only have any question, please contact me anytime. Sincerely yours, Felix Gundacker Pantzergasse 30/8 A-1190 Wien Telephone: 0043 676 40 11 059 email: [email protected] Datenbanken: www.GenTeam.eu Linksammlung: www.GenLink.at Mailing-Liste: www.GenList.at Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GenTeam.Die.genealogische.Datenbank „Connecting genealogists“

The Brestowatz family book by Josef Michels under the umbrella of the AVBF has now been published. The price is 25 Euro plus postage. To order contact the author, Josef Michels at Josef Michels Spittelberg Strasse II 78112 St Georgen Germany or at [email protected] Dave Dreyer

A Warjasch family book by Peter Tarnai is now available on line at http://www.online-ofb.de/varjas/ Dave Dreyer

Assorted church records: Neupanat, Baumgarten, Paulisch, Wiesenhaid. http://www.village-records.org/

Hello Danube Swabian Researchers, Perhaps those most interesting historical and current day maps may be of interest to you: http://www.vox.com/a/maps-explain-the-middle-east Greetings from Vancouver Island, Rosina T. Schmidt www.hrastovac.net

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